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"It will be a great oppty to add more to our positions. I'm hoping for some serious panic selling as I and loads of other smart people will be graciously buying on the cheap."
"Smart people" don't presume to know what others are in a position to do let alone tactlessly include themselves among the smart. Love it when the self absorbed think their 'hopes' for panic selling are widely shared.
"look at the board the sentiment is dead now..."
Dead my *ss, that's you projecting your own fears. No objective reading of these posts would confirm YOUR 'sentiment' as reflective of the majority sentiment.
My broker is Fidelity. No change in my share count. Rep could confirm nothing about any kind of split.
"of course, from an investor point of view, whatever American Petroleum Solutions does, given that it's a "private" company, an investor of ACLH.pk would be left off of the bus...oh well... nice try..."
http://www.actcleantech.com/project.html
"American Petroleum Solutions, Inc.
Wholly Owned Subsidiary"
oh well... nice try...
"the Company does not anticipate that it will effectuate a future stock split, stock dividend, recapitalization, erger, acquisition, spin-off or reorganization."
Does not 'anticipate' as in they didn't anticipate the oil spill and resultant contracts with BP.
We have no idea what a contract might entail or whether there is a merger deal or buyout in the works.
But if we open at a buck eighty and with big news there's no reason to think that pps won't rise with many newly aware buyers entering the mix.
"So, let's get our game on, BUGS, and get this damn PPS up into Pennyland!!!"
Time for a reality check, seriously. How many people didn't get into this stock thinking that it would be an oil spill remediation play?
Damned few would be a very reasonable guess. Look at the activity on the ACLH and MOPN boards. That's what it WOULD look like here, IF anything was going on. Whatever you thought DD told you about the three comapnies, one of them has been a bad guess.
I'm not even suggesting you cut your losses here, it could bouunce. But if at all possible, for either investment or altruistic reasons, consider taking advantage of what is playing out elsewhere during this developing disaster.
Stubborness is not an investment nor a trading strategy.
"I imagine...
But who knows..."
Why didn't you just leave it at that?
I doubt that there is anything but 24-7 activity going on in all phases of BP negotiations with all potential suppliers. IF a contract between BP and ACLH is announced over the weekend then your 'imaginings' are even more baseless. IMO!
"Welcome to two days ago."
Glad to read that you've been 'debugged'.
No Harm......No Foul Rule
Wouldn't any artist(s) and their agent distill a decision down to the simple questions "if this venture doesn't 'take off' will artist(s) career be materially damaged...reputation, bookings canceled and revenues hurt?"
NO?
What's the cost?
What's the upside?
" A word commonly used like the words opinion and speculation.'
Yeah, that works. But most of us know the connotation of a rumor to mean 'unsubstantiated' and 'flimsy' as opposed to a "well informed" opinion.
Etymology: Middle English rumour, from Anglo-French, from Latin rumor clamor, gossip; akin to Old English reon to lament, Sanskrit rauti he roars
Date: 14th century
1 : talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source
2 : a statement or report current without known authority for its truth
"There are two things that have been weighing heavy on my mind about BUGS and these are IMO:'
Forget about Katrina, as no 'business' was conducted then and they've been unable to monetize microbes for oil spil remediation since that time.
The 'business partenership' is highly unlikey to provide any kind of a contract that could impact this stock.
"Point is; BUGS has the contacts/ patents/ and past contracts. ACLH doesn't even have a boat dock !"
Point appears to be that ACLH has THE contact, to be followed by THE contract, and that BUGS' boat won't be leaving the harbor anytime soon.
"Go800 Belgian English New Math Dictionary"
And I thought that I had the funniest post this morning.
Unf*cking believable! If the posts on this board are not an argument for getting to bed before 1:00 am CDT I don't know what a stronger one would look like.
So far we've got the mysterious "Belgian R/S", the Caveat Emptor which if applied to the NYSE and NASDAQ would probably shut down trading immediately and ACLH playing 'Where's Waldo?' with info about the T/A.
This is all going to look even more stupid at 8:30 am EDT tomorrow.
"I think they gave this rating due to the attention theses pinks are getting and the 'buyer beware' is understandable due to not having info on hand.'
And for that matter where were the 'warnings' about Enron, WorldCom, AIG, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Bros, GM and Goldman Sachs?
Or maybe they SHOULD get the scrutiny the pinks get?
"Uh Oh"
First of all, not unusual for Caveat Emptor labels to appear with penny stocks. Which ONE, remember only one, of these devastating 'reasons' would you guess applies?
How has it impacted trading?
Did BP authorize a field test without knowing which one of these reasons applied?
When the stock bursts out of the gates tomorrow will you be back cluck clucking and Uh Ohing?
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"Know the type, they do not do it for the good of us holders."
Here's a novel theory on the 'bashers'.
First let get this out the way. They are way over estimated in their alleged ability to drive down pps. Think about it.
Are ANY of you influenced to sell by anything they post?
No, I didn't think so.
So I guess that leaves all of those so called 'weak hands' who head for the exits when someone posts 'BOO'! The need to believe that baseless critical posts are made by devilishly clever traders is really pretty weak in itself.
Bashers are mirror images of pumpers. They share a blind certitude
in the accuracy of their opinions fueled by the need, above all, to be right. Some are just uncertain about or disappointed with their investment. That's all that's going on.
To believe otherwise is to believe that these boards are the core of the investing universe for the pennies and that the MM's are trading wih one eye on these boards. Again, over estimation. IMO
"I can try and do it on Friday at the earliest."
If you photograph champagne corks, party hats and streamers lying around we'll know that you were too late for the pictures to make any difference to anyone!
"If this information is correct, then we have an obvious dilution.."
Uh, no, there is no EVIDENCE of dilution but rather the potential for dilution. We don't know what their cash situation is or whether any contract will fund manufacture and disperal/application of ACLH products.
Neither can you conclude from today's trading volume that there is dilution, as one person who day traded pointed out in an earlier post.
You can work this 'angle' like a dog working a bone, but it means nothing in light of the news and the hype and their effects on pps in the coming days.
"Sly, Are you saying that IR has no clue who the T/A is? LMAO'
Yeah, that's THE most important 'tree' in the 'forest'.
"If people only new the truth about what's going on here in BUGS."
Gee, that cryptic statement wasn't too well received! Wonder why?
The 'truth' is reflected in the current pps movement and not in any self-serving "if people only knew" nonsense.
"BUGS enviromental technology should have direct uses in remediation of the oil spill and/or its effects."
I don't say that it shouldn't, based upon the efficacy of the technology. I'm just saying that BUGS has no business platform to take advantage of the opportunity and to deliver product. If they did we would be reading about it on the website or in PR's and, most importantly, we'd see it reflected in the pps.
"...U.S. Microbics, Inc. should take a lesson!'
There is no lesson to be learned. BUGS is not a player in oil spill remediation. Anybody invested for that purpose had best look eleswhere with what is left of their BUGS holding.
"....They didn't have to,,,exspecially if they thought there was a chance of failure"
Brilliant. Wouldn't it then be reasonable to infer that by "telling the whole world", they DON'T think there's a chance of failure?
"QUESTION: Could Aabaco be using one of BUGS proprietary patent formulas for their product?"
Were that the case wouldn't it be worthy of a PR from BUGS or be reflected in pps 'action'?
"I'm DOWN 55% - and I'm getting damn irritated with U.S. Microbics...."
I don't blame you but you can't claim that anyone here led you to believe that this was an oil spill remediation play, can you?
You do know the one that had a PR today, right?
"It goes lower & lower every day."
Those wtih foresight are picking up 'cheapies'!
"Dump starts again? I am OUT! sorry guys"
Really? Think those 'field tests' are anything more than a formality? Contract announcement by ACLH and PR from BP announcing: "Look how 'green' we are for using this environmental friendly oil remediation solution", will continue to drive this stock.
"I guess a simpler form of my question then would be if GEICO is signed up then GO800 should show up in their advertising and an ambassador should be able to say GEICO is signed up. I guess I dont see the secretism behind the not saying who is actually signed up."
Motocross, speaking as an Ambassador I believe the likely compromise on 'disclosure' of GOIG contracted customers lies in
your above statement.
I will not take it upon myself to reveal my signed customer names unless or until their advertising is public. There will likely be a lag, depending upon the size and 'agility' of any given customer, from the time of signing to the appearance of their promotions of GOIG to their customers. It would be presumptuous and unprofessional to preempt a signed customer's announcement to their customers of the availability of their new mode of contact.
That said, I will clear any announcements of my signed customers with both the customer AND with Ike Sutton.
I suggest that should be the model for announcements by all other Ambassadors in the absence of any contrary communication on this subject from Ike. It strikes me as the course of action that will both err on the side of prudence and most closely approximate a "no harm no foul" rule.
"How in the world can BP hire anybody yet, until they know absolutely what they need.?"
Clearly they felt that they needed chemical dispersants. How much of that was in the 350 M spent as opposed to being in their 'oil spill tool box' is hard to know.
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/bp-has-spent-350m-on-oil-cleanup-considers-new-options/19470765
"BATON ROUGE, La. (May 10) -- BP resumed pumping chemical dispersants at a gushing oil well today, while the company readies a new containment dome and considers jamming trash into a leaking pipe in an effort to block the steady flow of crude into the Gulf of Mexico.
BP said it has spent $350 million so far on efforts to clean up the spill and stem the flow of oil, although the final tally is expected to be much higher."
"You said "BUGS was obligated"
Sorry that you are confused. YOU said:
"Posted by: Admiral Lagrange Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:44:59 PM
In reply to: blackhawks who wrote msg# 6768 Post # of 6781
Bugs never said it was involved in the oil spill and has no obligation to get involved. Where you guys getting this crap from.'
I've never used the word 'obligated' in any post.
"The two oil plays are ACHL and MOPN, which proves you're just making meaningless and false statements."
These are your words: "That other oil cleanup play is crapping out...." You did not reference any other names so it was a reasonable inference that 'other' than BUGS was your meaning.
The only one 'irked' in these exchanges is the one forgetting or diasavowing what he posted.
And let's not be disingenuous. The interest in ALL of the stocks you've mentioned, including BUGS, was prompted by the oil spill.
The pps movement was also related to the oil spill news.
Doesn't mean that the interest or the pps movement was well founded, but it is what it is. Don't run away from your explicit statements implying that the 'other' oil plays are bogus/P&D's and BUGS is a sound investment because of underlying fundamentals that go beyond oil spill remediation, which BUGS is NOT positioned in from a business/revenue generating standpoint.
"Where you guys getting this crap from."
The first post of yours below implies that BUGS is in negotiations for uses related to the current oil spill crisis.
The second post is the 'smoking gun' that addresses, at least in part, your question "Where you guys getting this crap from.?"
YOUR answer: "That other oil cleanup play is crapping out...."
It's possible I'm misconstruing the meaning of "that OTHER oil cleanup play" as it relates to BUGS, but I doubt it.
Posted by: Admiral Lagrange
Date: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:47:31 AM
In reply to: NewbOfCourse who wrote msg# 6536 Post # of 6774
It's not hard to believe if they are in real contract negotiations to sell or lease the technology
BUGS does have the real contacts.
I have found that the companies who jump in with the pump PR's are usually the ones that acually have nothing and are just taking advantage of the hype to sell some more shares Posted by: Admiral Lagrange Date: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:28:34 AM
In reply to: bigarow who wrote msg# 6202 Post # of 6774
Posted by: Admiral Lagrange Date: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:28:34 AM
That other oil cleanup play is crapping out. Traders should be moving back over here at any time.
"He said he likes it when the phone rings, so if you want to talk to him yourself, give him a call."
I can confirm the truth of the above statement as well as the accuracy of the content of the rest of rdaub's post.
Ares told me the same as what you've read in rdaub's post, and none of it sounded canned or prepared. Much of what I learned in my converstion with him was drawn from him by my specific questions.
He acknowledged that they need to correct the references to "British Petroleum" and start using simply 'BP' in their future communications.
"No, BUGS carries no fault in the poor reaction by both Obama and the greedy oil entities to this landmark disaster."
Perhaps you can enlighten us on just what constitutes a "poor reaction".
Please take into consideration any neglignece due to lax regulations RE valve shut off devices or ill advised 'cementing' procedures.
" eventually dropping it to the seafloor where deep-sea microbes will feast on it for centuries."
http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010/05/what-heck-bp-putting-gulf
"But the dispersants contain harmful toxins of their own and can concentrate leftover oil toxins in the water, where they can kill fish and migrate great distances.
The exact makeup of the dispersants is kept secret under competitive trade laws, but a worker safety sheet for one product, called Corexit, says it includes 2-butoxyethanol, a compound associated with headaches, vomiting and reproductive problems at high doses."
So it sounds like the microbes may suffer from 'indigestion'.
And of course their little headaches will lead to 'not tonight dear' curtailing of reproduction.
Maybe they can mix some Zantac and Tylenol into the dispersants so them microbes can 'get busy' on the dispersants...and with each other!
"That shows that it has been at least 11 years since working with them."
It 'shows' nothing of the kind. Are there any 'conclusions' NOT jumped to on this board?
"Previous APS clients using its technologies have already included some of the largest oil and gas companies in the US, including Conoco Phillips, Exxon Mobil, Avon Petroleum, Valero Petroleum, BP (British Petroleum) as well as the US Navy Petroleum Reserve."
When you're listing oil and oil related companies and the Navy Petroleum Reserve you probably want to remind people that BP is still involved in 'petroleum' even though the BP ads commonly refer to all of their other energy projects.
"Apparently you have no idea or answers for ACLH......."
First allow me to post what Don Corleone might advise:
"Oh, Godfather, I don't know what to do, I don't know what to do...
[All of a sudden, Don Corleone rises from his chair and gives Codesters a savage shake]
Don Corleone: YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!
[gives a quick slap to Codesters
Don Corleone: What's the matter with you? Is this what you've become, a penny stock finocchio who cries like a woman? "Oh, what do I do? What do I do?" What is that nonsense? Ridiculous!"
All that I claimed was that your speculations were not based upon any evidence whatsoever. The subcontractor business model I described was accurate. IF ACLH receives business directly, as they say that they are now attempting to do, or as a subconteractor, as they've done in the past, then we will see a spike. To say that we might see a double or a triple from here is a conservative statement.
I just added more @ .033.
"If ALCH was really concerned............. if it was."
You began and ended with hypotheticals, interrupted with barely coherent, unfounded speculations, inferences and baseless assertions. You have NO idea what track or what terms ACLH negotiations are proceeding along.
This company has been functioning as a subcontractor, which means that the contractor is responsible for its subcontractors
meeting all environmental and 'quality' requirements. It's fair to assume that ACLH will have to meet those same standards as either a subcontractor or direct supplier of materials and services in this crisis.
"WHAT'S with all the references to the Obama administration?"
Read my posts. They are responses to unfounded and politicized allegations. In fact they make the very points you've made in your response to me.
"We have seen a range of .0384 to .052" more like a range of .052 to .0384. It opened at about .052(or close) & that's as close as anybody got to see of that today."
The more salient point of my post is:
"The technology owned by ACLH could put them on the frontline on the battle to fight the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. PSC has not sold any ACLH today and we are holding for a spike to the .10 to .15 range."
Please, tell me you put down your cello long enough to get out of BUGS.
Oh, and any more residents of teabagistan want to politicize this crisis please take your cue from what people on the right have to say about it:
"Similar to Rove, other conservatives are trying pin blame on the administration or to make the spill response “Obama’s Katrina.” “I think the parallels to Katrina are very real,” Newt Gingrich said yesterday. Today, MSNBC host and former GOP congressman Joe Scarborough called such a comparison “absolutely obscene,” adding that “anybody that draws that analogy is an idiot.”
Many on the right aren’t buying the delayed response argument either. Charles Krauthammer, the Weekly Standard’s Steve Hayes, and even Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) have all noted that the Obama administration responded appropriately to the Gulf oil spill. “What could [Obama] have done? … This is insane,” Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly said of the administration’s critics."
"I`ll try to see ALL the reports on this OIL "mishap".
I`m sure Obama`s "Team" has this Controlled.'
Why do you think that the word 'controlled' should appear in any sentence RE this crisis?
Put down the winger Red Bull Kool-aid and drink some decaf.