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" have a question guys. I was of the notion that beginning today, any keyword that hasnt being contracted for would be deleted from the GOIP database. Is that right or not?"
Not correct. We have a discretionary period in which to close our reserved brands and generics and we can 'inactivate' any that we choose if in our judgment a contract is not forthcoming.
If we're booked up to our alloted 100 'reserved' then we have to either make room for fresh prospects or continue to work on the ones already in our data base.
As for 'throwing a bone'? I threw mine earlier today.
"Can you provide me with an email address of someone so I can get that email with all the paperwork sent again?"
pat@go800corp.com
MRDD,
Free subscriber, no private message send or respond capability.
Posted on our Ambassador "Sales Network & Community" site:
New Plan - Brand by Area Code
Brand by Area Code - Monthly Lease Price $2350 for National Coverage ( includes setup fee and monthly maintenance). Each of the 282 Area Codes will be assigned their own specified number. Multiple Area Codes can be assigned to the same specified number. First month payment must be received before set up.
"I DON'T BELIEVE YOU"
szep,
You had to at least suspect that your expression of disbelief concerning Mac's post RE his business relationship with GOIG might be proven unfounded by corroboration of the relationship from the Ambassador he has been working with, me.
While you may suspect that a fellow shareholder might be misguided enough to falsely claim that their company is contracted with GOIG in hope of positively influencing pps, that suspicion would be as ill-placed as is the belief that any such 'strategy' could work!
Two Brands are contracted for by Mac's company effective for billing purposes today, 06/01. Together we were also able to secure approval for a "Brand by Area Code Program' that is available to all Ambassadors to propose to companies with field sales and service people.
In my opinion that is more of a response than your dismissive remark to Mac warrants. However, I don't appreciate seeing a fellow professional's credibility challenged without cause.
As for anyone else 'demanding' that Ambassadors reveal the results of their efforts? Speaking for myself, this is as good as it's going to get in that respect from me.
"who has material nonpublic information" would mean a trade based on insider information. We all know that is a no no. Maybe it is Ok for an employee to buy sell as long as it is not based on insider information?"
That is exactly correct. Think of all of the employees over the years who've, often unwisely, had much of their 401k in their own company's stock. They all are bound by the constraint quoted above.
The clause in the contract is a standard warning that one could find in most employee manuals and 401K guidleines. Every Ambassador can confirm that we hear nothing in a training session that can be contrued as insider info nor do we receive any email communications with insider info.
Whatever reservations you may have about the Ambassador contract, the insider trading pro forma warning should not be one of them.
Unless you have larceny in your heart in which case you'll trip yourself up regardless of warnings and in ways not limited to just insider training!
"If the SEC calls you answer.....its that simple. There is no excuse for not responding to the requests of the SEC. It's not one person who was sick and can verify it with a note from his mother....there's an entire staff that could have responded to the e mails or the phone calls over a span of an entire week."
Where's the evidence that what you've hypothesized/guessed IS what actually occurred?
"So I am especially hoping GOIG gives me a reason to smile very very soon."
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"Well, that's all I know, except for one more BIG thing (remember I said I was still mulling it over?)...The contract states that you may NOT BUY OR SELL GOIG SHARES WHILE THIS CONTRACT IS IN FORCE...I also believe there are SEC regs. against doing so, as well."
You do people a disservice when you misstate a document by omitting the exact wording and by not using quotation marks.
Placing your misinterpretation in ALL CAPS just makes it worse.
The pertinent portion of the contract is quoted below.
I'll leave it to other Ambassadors as to whether any of us has been privy to "material nonpublic information". Seems to me that we are regularly pumped by posters on this board to provide such information and often reviled for not providing any! Are we all that discreet, that prudent, or.......?
Plus there's that "initiation ceremony and secrecy pact" that All Ambassadors learn about after signing and faxing their contract, described by me in a post from a couple of days ago.
"Since Go800, LLC is a subsidiary of GoIP Global. Inc, a publically traded company, you acknowledge that you are aware that the U.S. securities laws prohibits any person who has material nonpublic information about a company from purchasing or selling securities of such company, or from communicating such information to any other person under circumstances in which it is reasonably foreseeable that such person is likely to purchase or sell such securities."
"Greedy you need to get a grip and realize the company will not PR period untill late next week or even Monday the 8th ...and to be honest that is the smartest thing they can do to protect the investors...."
That is accurate. I just caught the ACLH IR person on the way to a meeting at a location an an hour and a half away from where he is.
Among other things they will determine what can be said in the PR they are determined to create before trading resumes.
He indicated that they have people who know what is necessary to resume trading on the same exchange they were trading on.
"I'm seeking credible information from an OBJECTIVE ambassador, not a promoter."
I AM an Ambassador and by definition a 'promoter'. Whether or not you find me credible is of no interest or concern to me.
"Yes, but how does "reserved" show any measure of hard work or success?"
I was very specific in what I said about what I think the reserved words indicated. I know what success in sales entails and what must come before sales are closed. Your assertion about those efforts meaning 'squat' shows that that is what you know.
"I just don't understand why GOIG throws around the "reserved" word...it means nothing IMO"
Take it for what it is. A barometer of how hard Ambassadors are working to build their sales funnels. Anyone who's in sales can tell you that you need a lot of prospects to generate sales.
If you had NO information about Ambassador efforts, then what?
Well I guesss we'd still have Ike's original list of a few hundred brands with no indication whether or not that number had increased.
"If Mr. Sutton confirmed this in the meeting, which as far as we know is true then I thought that would be fine to share."
Ambassador meetings are primarily training meetings for new Ambassadors. I was on a second one a few weeks ago as a refresher and for the opportunity to ask questions. I wasn't on this last one.
Anyone hear anything about YouTube?
"Didnt get a chance to ask why they were not staisfied with the info that was provided."
Can you clarify your statement "why they were not satisfied"?
In my conversation with Ares he indicated that subsequent to the suspension of trading "ACLH is providing the SEC with evertyhing they requested and more". No indication one way or another yet as to whether SEC is satisfied or not satisfied.
"Any talk of youtube video that you can share?'
Take this as a 'given'. Nothing is shared with Ambassadors that could be remotely construed as inside info.
Can you imagine Ike saying: "OK, now this is just for you Ambassadors and not for public release"? Human nature being what it is........you know what happens!
"There is surely another ambassador or two on this board that could clear up the key words purchased or reserved arguement... Comeon guys chime in....'
OK, since there's no 'historical memory' on this board maybe we can 'sticky' this.
Reserved Brands and Reserved Generic Key Words are what the word reserved denotes, RESERVED. Unless and until you see the word 'contracted' in front of or directly following 'brand' or 'generics' do NOT take them for contracted and ready to be billed.
"Then one of three things have happened: 1) there was no such call 2) the IR guy does not understand the ramifications of being suspended, or 3) he's lying."
"Or 4)they are providing all the required info to the SEC and the market and all is just fine."
1.) the call was plausible because I received a call from IR in response to my voicemail. I had spoken with him in the past, so it wasn't a a shot in the dark on my part.
2.) That's possible. I emailed IR the info on the form 211 required to resume trading. I don't know if a thorough and completely satisfactory response to the SEC's concerns negates the form 211 requirement. I assume that the SEC is mistaken from time to time.
3.) It's possible. But to what end?
4.)The actual statement was "all that the SEC asked for AND more....proof of business with companies mentioned in offending PR's and with other companies".
Even if #4 is accurate, we don't know whether or not everything will be just fine.
One last point. Your degree of belief in anything you read on these boards shoud be inversely proportional to the certitude expressed by the poster. We've ALL seen evidence of the validity of that 'theorem' as it applies to this board.
"What Makes A Man Or A Women / Is How We Handle Ourseleves / We Can Handle The Good Times / This Is Where Our Character Is Tested / Either We Pick Ourselves Up Or We Will Just Complain"
Lou Mannheim: "Bud... Bud I like you. Just remember something. Man looks in the abyss, there's nothing staring back at him. At that moment man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of the abyss."
Hopefully ACLH stock will be staring back at us, and tradeable, on /6/08.
"Where is the PR?"
What part of "legal advice to STFU" did you misunderstand?
"A legit company would've already given a PR in light of recent events and their word from already failed CCs'
Considering that their suspension is largely due to statements in their PR's I'd say they're getting sound legal advice to STFU.
"You mean like the Caveat Emptor on Pink Sheets"
That's actually the name of the finance majors' fraternity and sorority on the very same campus. The only non-Greek name in the fraternity/sorority system.
"I would be surprised if the MMs didn't want a piece of this action when/if it trades again with millions of shares changing hands daily."
Interesting point. Partly dependent upon a clean bill of health from the SEC and mostly upon whether of not any contract for business with ANY company is inked and announced by ACLH over the next 8 business days.
"Anyone think management was behind the cc problems?"
I do not. They all had their spiels ready to go and the quick reschedule further suggests not.
When I called in today I was told that they had over 300,000 people phoned in on the 2nd CC, which was way beyond expectations of ACLH or the CC service provider.
MAYBE an SEC rep was on both calls and concluded that ACLH should be suspended on 'general principles'....for not being able to conduct something hundereds of companies successfully conduct every hour of every f*ck'n day!
"They say the statements made previously RE BP, etc. are true and we have no reason to doubt this.'
His reply is entirely consistent, in both content and tone, with what he told me during his phone conversation with me yesterday.
Left unstated by me was his statement to me that the "largest single investor in ACLH was also unconcerned about the suspension of trading."
Now of course these statments beg the questions as to whether or not ACLH was truthful in their statements to Mr. Andrews, whether or not he appreciates the seriousness of a suspension regardless of a company's belief in its case and whether or not the largest investor can wait till hell freezes over before ACLH trades again. Deep pockets have staying power.
Everybody is free to believe which way this is going to pan out.
Categorical statements that it will or will not work out favorably for ACLH investors should be treated with equal scorn.
And last I checked, we have NO back orders on scorn on this board. Shelves are full!
"trading shares of stock on eBay is illegal."
So then that would be appropriate for ACLH shares?
"Has anyone reached the company?"
I spoke with a person at ACLH 20 minutes ago. NOT the IR person nor the receptionist. This person indicated that ACLH's attorney has instructed ACLH personnel not to say anything. He further stated that "there will be a PR when they have information that will be helpful to shareholders". This confirms my surmise that a "quiet period' is a legal strategy that will prevent possible further actions by the SEC. After all, it is ACLH's previous statements that are under scrutiny.
Maybe the attorney said, after the conversations with the SEC, "everyone now just STFU! There is NO upside in ANY of you communicating anything based upon recent communication 'events' ". That advice alone is worth whatever the attorney is charging ACLH!
"Sounds like it may be a little more intense then some realized."
Not anywhere near as intense as following a certain suspended from trading oil clean-up stock.
Cartoon texter looks like she's an ACLH holder texting WTF!?46800
Very nice. But you need to get a texting cartoon for that first step.
"Maybe you misunderstand me, I want the SEC to publicly say there is nothing wrong with ACLH."
I don't misunderstand you. I was making the point that ACLH BELIEVES they satisfied the SEC, and NOT that the SEC indicated that THEY were satisfied. I assume corroboration of documentation from the other parties involved in the claimed testing and claimed testing results will be sought by the SEC.
"I really should go outside and get some exercise....... "
I took a furious bike ride, in both senses of that word, after the radio interview and before my conversation with Left Behind.....
You really don't want my cardio-pumped mind cross examining you if you're not prepared to tell me the truth.
" want the SEC to say they have been satisfied with what ACLH can provide."
I nailed that down with "During that meeting the attorney furnished the SEC with answers and documentation that ACLH
believes satisfies the SEC's expressed concerns that led to the suspension in trading."
I specifically asked WHO was satisfied. Most of what I posted came from answers to very specific questions. I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on these boards and with THIS company most particularly.
"As I am sure Glenn had time to call you back, they have time to update the of the scammed shareholders with this information right? :)"
He's the innocent, seemingly unconcerned, non-shareholder, president of the company that has the joint venture with ACLH.
Please don't conflate what seems to be a professional gentleman with what has transpired over the past few days.
" don't mean to doubt your post but how were you able to
gain personal cell phone # of LLC CEO ?"
An earlier post furnished the info below. A woman answered the phone # and she gave me his number.
Glenn Andrews LEFT BEHIND RECOVERY, LLC
Address: 41 YELLOWSTONE RD LULING, TX 78648 (830) 875-6374"
"What's LEFT BEHIND RECOVERY, LLC.?"
In additon to the oil bidness, they will be involved in recovering articles of clothing and property that those who are 'raptured' will of necessity leave behind.
While it is estimated that far more people will be left behind than 'saved', there are still expected to be sufficient numbers of 'saved' to create an excellent 'salvage and sell' opportunity.
VERY IMPORTANT POST, IMO.
I just completed a half hour call with Glenn Andrews, president of LEFT BEHIND RECOVERY, LLC .
He was kind enough to respond to my voicemail and he told me the following:
He was assured by the principals of ACLH, Kidder, Anderson and Shipley that ACLH and their attorney had a two hour phone meeting with the SEC this morning.
During that meeting the attorney furnished the SEC with answers and documentation that ACLH
believes satisfies the SEC's expressed concerns that led to the suspension in trading.
Including:
1. Tests were conducted by BP
2. Results were reported as favorable by BP
3. Documentation to that effect was furnished to SEC.
That is all that Andrews knows. Because of what he was assured he does NOT feel that the
stock will be adversely effected when it resumes trading. That's HIS opinion. The joint
venture remains unaffected by this SEC issue.
(Andrews also assured me that "Kidder was blindsided by the SEC question" on the radio interview and that
Kidder received notification of the suspension in an email after the question had been asked.
We're looking at about 8:20 PDT for that email. Take it or leave it.)
Neither Andrews nor I know whether or not the SEC can or must lift suspension before the specified
period if documentation satisfies their concerns.
Now, please understand that this is the extent of my conversation with Mr. Andrews and there is nothing I can add
no matter how may questions any of you post. And no, I will not share his cell # for the simple reason that
I don't want him besieged with phone calls from ACLH investors who he won't be able to say anything more to than
he said to me..
I asked him if he would give me a call if he learned anything further that was not PR'd by ACLH. he indicated that
he would do so.
Sure, I'm skeptical about ACLH after the disastrous CC's and the suspension of trading. But I do feel somewhat
better after the phone conversation indicating that an ACLH attorney is communicating with the SEC.
Andrews is NOT a shareholder, but he "has a direct line to Kidder" and he has no impression or
evidence that the situation is other than described to him and recounted by me.
Get over the notion that this some kind of MM or basher conspiracy.
Here is the SEC posting
"It appears to the Securities and Exchange Commission (“Commission”) that there is a lack of current and accurate information concerning the securities of ACT Clean Technologies, Inc. (“ACT”) because of questions regarding the accuracy of assertions by ACT concerning, among other things: (1) British Petroleum’s purported expression of interest in using a so-called oil fluidizer technology purportedly licensed to ACT’s wholly-owned subsidiary, American Petroleum Solutions, Inc., for use in cleanup operations in the Gulf of Mexico, and its purported request that field tests be conducted on the oil fluidizer technology; and (2) the purported results of field tests finding that the oil fluidizers are effective for use in clean up efforts in the Gulf of Mexico.
The Commission is of the opinion that the public interest and the protection of investors require a suspension of trading in the securities of the above-listed company."
Interviewer indicated he had a memo about the halting of trading.
Kidder: "I didn't know about that"
Said "not going through with reverse split....didn't want to break good will with investors"!!!!!!
Now he's talking about BCLE.
"They are late!! Whats going on?"
It's a visual re-creation of the last two attempted CC's!
"Great...hopefully they get it straightened out."
They did:
Thank you for this info. Just so you know, the new phone and area codes for keyword BLINDS were entered this morning.
Pat
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