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I'll just NEVER understand. The MAX ANY short position can make is 100%, IF the stock went to 0. However, you take a stock with potential like CBAY, and a more than fair valuation of .40, and you've made 1000% from here. Go figure.......
I had every intention of buying FCNK at the open, however Ameriturd L1 or L2 hasn't updated it all day, when I looked at the Scottrade platform, I about sheeet......
Holy crap, look what happens when a beaten down stock takes off, FCNK, up 233%. It's TIME for CBAYE todo the same!
Who in the HELL would be SELLING at this level?
Charting God, I don't put my charts as part of my signature, just embed them into the post by using the method, where the xx's are a link to the web address MINUS the http:// a la stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=CBAYE&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&i=p89431183176&r=5308
which if done between the bracketed gives us this:
Tick tock tick tock. ALL the great PR waiting in the wings, I can't BELIEVE these idiots dumping on the bid every time a rally tries to get started!
I wish the company would take a look at the option of getting the current 10Q out sooner rather than later!
This thing WANTS to go SO badly, SO close! Quit whacking thie BID. Nice buys on ask, could be getting ready to go......
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15541635
BB, if you get a few minutes, could you do one of your great annotated charts on CBAYE? This thing looks SO ready to me.....
I would expect the pace of posting unsubstantiated, unverifiable rumors to pick up dramatically today as this stock tries a major reversal, as the chart would indicate, as the triangle comes to a point......
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Agreed. All of a sudden, these insidious, unsubstantiated attempts to shake investor confidence, talk of R/S, lawsuits, and other BS? ALL totally out of the blue with NOTHING to back it up. This thing is on the verge of a major run and shorty is running scared, IMHO......
Ya know, as frustrating as it has been sitting here all day watching this thing seemingly go sideways, this chart after today's close, shows the kind of strength I personally like to stumble across. When I find one of these, I usually buy without hesitiation, with complete confidence. I probably got in early on CBAY because it's always been on my radar since I rode it to a BUCK before, and I'm all hot and horny to do it again. DAMN, this is a thing of beauty, wish you guys could see all my OTHER indicators. Today's is what Bill Panetta likes to call a slingshot candle:
I don't know WHERE this sudden talk of a R/S is coming from. I DO know, that when the 10Q lays out in black and white, the TRUE value of this company, and if the market responds in kind with a fair pps, this thing will be well on it's way to $1+ and an R/S would be totally unnecessary to start thinking of listing on major exchange!
GIDDYUP!!!! Damn bidwhackers!
Need to knock that friggin VFIN back up to .10
CBAYE breaking downtrend line. 10Q imminent, will show $100 + million in assets, market cap at 5 mil now, no brainer!
10Q figures
Updated with more accurate numbers.
Thanks All for your private mails I received.
Great job, so those idiot bashers can't play with it.
Sorry however if I can't answer privately.
Here is therefore what should be the truth, or nearly the truth:
September 30 10Q
Gross assets = ( 118M-33.5M ) = 86.5M
Net assets = 86.5 / (118/47) = 34.2M
O/S = 84M
---> 34.2 / 84 = 0.407 US$
AND IF NO MORE ACQUISITION TILL 12/31
End of year, full 2006 10Q
Gross assets = 118M
Net assets = 48M
O/S = 116M
---> 48 / 116 = 0.414 US$
-----> This Company clearly expands itself continuously while trying to always keep a same or better O/S on Net assets ratio, just like it was End of May, on that re-valuation time that the stock
CBAYE breaking downtrend line. 10Q imminent, will show $100 + million in assets, market cap at 5 mil now, no brainer!
116 Million, 16 mil restricted. Called the transfer agent YESTERDAY afternnon! PPS going UP, expect the bashing to increase dramtically!
The huge discount? I still think there's a huge amount of short interest. They got the NOBO and DTC lists, now is the time to call in all certs (force shorts to cover), and reissue under a different symbol. It worked for IDWS/IDWD a couple years back. Bought that for under a dime and rode to a buck, it's never seen those lower levels since! Tick tock
So, today, all we need do is break and hold above the downtrend line, maybe with increasing volume? THAT would really get this chart shaping up! This chart is so tightly coiled, bollis and MAs all squeezed up, just the slightest spark will set her off. FIRE IN THE HOLE! CBAY could come on with that 10Q and not break my heart, lol.
From the Nov 27 press release:
we have received a number of calls regarding the market capitalization of the company and its common share structure and based on the closing market price as of Monday November 27, 2006 the common share market capitalization would be in the region of $5M. I would like to clarify the company's property portfolio is in excess of $100M and the equity portion is in excess of $40M".
THEN, I think today's bullish candle is merely ignition of the primer on a VERY big bullet! lol Bring it ON!!
Just called them, they don't actually keep FLOAT #s, but she DID say that of the 116 million, that 16 million were restricted.
Did they tell you the actual FLOAT?
Nice close today, helps the chart with early stage confirmation of reversal. Let's keep it up tomorrow!!!!!!
Just LOOK how thin the ask is! I don't think it would take much buy pressure at all to knock DOMS out of there, bump him up.
Makes NO sense at all. Every time this thing TRIES to get going, some azzwad whacks the bid........... Even the SMALLEST amount of patience and they could sell at 05 for a 25% gain
CBAYE, "if" the o/s now is say 100 mil (could be much lower), the current market cap is $4 mil. This is for a company doing around $125 mil in assets to date with a $40+ mil equity value. The market will correct this insane PPS. When? I don't have an answer. Wish I had more dry powder. lol. 10Q due this week to dispel ANY doubts! Very thin on the ask, SO ready to go, need some buy pressure and volumes, knock DOMS off his perch! 5K shares=$200, and then look at chart - risk/reward ratio........
This thing is SO ready. More potential energy than a Saturn rocket!
SO thin on the ask, need some buy pressure and volume and wouldn't take much to kickstart this thing!
SOMEBODY knock DOMS off?
I just wanna see the friggin 10Q, show real value of company so can be compared to pps and a fair valuation determined!!!!
Hmmmm, shorts afraid to press their luck further, prospective new longs waiting to see what happens? 200 shares traded. Giddyup, get the FILING OUT! Time to start rockin'........
Today's candlestick, an inverted hammer, a reversal signal that need confirmation.........
I'm very, VERY hungry.........
Sure would like to see a close around 046 today. SOMETHING to get this chart shaping up..... Still unbelievable how a co with SUCH strong fundamentals can trade at this level......
Excerpt out of email from Tim Garlin on Friday:
As far as the 10Q goes, I have been told it will be filed prior to going to the pink sheets.
CBAYE sitting on launch pad, needs volume. Guess we may need the 10Q later this week to get this into hyperspace? Mayeb then people will see the fundamental value of this one. Incredible, a book value of $1.07 and share price of .043? 70 or so million OS? A no brainer to me!