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that's right - "nearly 6000" in 12 months to avg 15 is very different than the actual 5445 in 611 days for an average of 8.9 per day.
Why did he say nearly 6000 when it is nearly 5500? Why did he say in 12 months instead of 20?
Because he wanted to discredit me. He is a liar and your support of him reveals your bias against the truth.
I'll bet X, Rkf and some others avg close to 9 per day. Xena would if she could.
And Proto is the one who is closer to 15 a day.
Why didn't he try to discredit those posters?
TRUTH.
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No. Tierpathetic lied about that too.
Do you feel better now? To correct you, I’m not wanting the stock to go to the ground. I want it to go to where it belongs. I want the price to reflect the reality on the ground It will go there eventually with or without me.
Druid appears to know the reality on the ground. His views are a breath of fresh air
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Tierpathetic, SCRW you. You’re the only one making stuff up here -you have this whole false drama played out in your head about who I am. You are a sick man. You are obsessed. Look in the mirror.
I’m here to talk about the stock. 90% of you are here to talk about me. That’s because you don’t like the things I say about the company. Well grow up.
YOU are the one with a warped sense of reality because you think the industry-the Googles, Facebooks etc are all looking for Lightwave to save them. Its a really big industry out there and Yet you naively think they look to the Lightwave to solve their issues—that they actually FUNDED their work at the Foundries!! Thats how out of touch you are with reality. You have no earthly conception of how small potatoes Lightwave Logic is.
I think VEIN hit the nail on the head: the evidence strongly supports the position that lightwave is on the outside, looking in, hoping someone will pay attention to them
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It is outlandish how incredibly ignorant this board is when it comes to the science. The stock went up to $20 a share on pure hype.
Druid you may not know the history here. This board is full of uninformed dreamers who know nothing about the science that have propped the stock up on their dreams.
You will find this out soon enough If you say anything that threatens their viewpoint that Lightwave is going to be making billions and billions of dollars because they are the one solution that’s going to change the world.
That’s literally what the majority of retail holders of the stock appear to believe, because Dr. Lebby has told them over and over again that he hopes their technology becomes “ubiquitous”.
If you want to understand the track record of this company, I strongly suggest you read the top three red flags post found above all the regular posts on the board here. as much as I appreciate your science input, I feel a person can judge this company without it. That sticky is my evidence.
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I don't try to fool anyone -- I'm happy to say that I let the reality guide me.
The reality is obvious: 9 months after a questionable and highly camaflouged last minute "deal" announced the morning of the ASM and we still don't know much of anything about it, and we still haven't seen any new deals that would confirm what they had led nearly everyone to believe re their progress with foundries.
The Dec 4 shareholder was IMO a manipulation of the reality in order to stop the bleeding of the stock - after all here we are 2 1/2 months later and nary a peep from the company...it served its purpose. The company deserves to lose its loyal shareholders.
The ONLY reason these stick in your craw so much that you have to "like" your own posts that try and discredit me is because deep down you know they are TRUE.
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There’s no question I want people to understand that a good case can be made for the stock being overpriced.
You call that manipulation. I call it reality.
The actual manipulation here is that which is done by Proto because he distorts the reality, and does so repeatedly
I have little respect for you Spartex, so you might as well just keep it to yourself
Russell 2000 growth was up but not as much as I would have thought.
So, you accuse me of following my bias. Perhaps you are doing the same:
I believe Druid has changed sentiment. It only takes one person to have a change in sentiment to say that the sentiment has changed overall. And it only takes one person to not buy who was going to buy to cause the bid price to fall. And it only takes one person to sell to change it too.
He has changed my sentiment. I didn't think it was possible but I now distrust anything Proto writes even more than before.
You asked:
Protohype you are stating as fact something you just believe to be true. I know that it isn’t true so I know it is a lie basically.
Why don’t you qualify your statements as beliefs instead of facts? That could go along ways towards dissipating the absolute disgust and distrust many here have with your posting style
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Yes, I do have a vendetta against Proto. What he’s doing is shameful to everybody here.
Everyone here should have a personal vendetta against him also.
KCC and Lewrock, something was different about today. This isn’t the first day since December 4. That can’t explain today’s tremendous weakness. Druid has changed the sentiment here some. He has likely caused some people to doubt what they previously believed. You can say that’s something delusional if you’d like, but I would disagree And anything that is factual that changes peoples minds affects the stock price
I’m not sure why you push back against that idea. It’s basic supply and demand. I know a lot of people here don’t believe in supply and demand and prefer to believe that “they” control the stock - which is ludicrous in itself - but surely you do believe sentiment affects the price and people here sometimes affect sentiment, right?
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Druid literally said Proto's cost numbers are nonsense, so the implication is that cost savings won't be as significant as Proto thinks.
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Did you see this from Druid last night? Bolding is mine.
The reason the stock was down today may well have been due to the fact that Druid made it clear that he thinks prototype has been pumping nonsensical science- and that his projections are way too positive,
And that there are other companies addressing the challenges that are out there
I believe he caused potential buyers to think twice about the likelihood that lightwave is going to succeed.
The stock has long been buoyed up by those that exploit the lack of scientific understanding to their advantage
thanks for the great news about Xena and Rkf.
One of many problems:
Nasdaq up 402, LWLG down .03 - the market knows we are nearing the 3 month mark after what I will now call the infamous Dec 4 shareholder letter, a ruse to try and stop the rapid price decline - imo.
In 1 week we get the 10k and any new info on the "commercial acceptance" deal from May 2023...Proto's expectations are sky high - he mentioned huge surprise revenues previously as being possible - so get ready.
Then we have the pump going into OFC where so much is on the line...
If they don't deliver something SPECTACULAR at OFC a sinking feeling will begin to come over those who are already beginning to get suspicious that this is the beginning of the end..Why in the world NOT show a transceiver prototype a full year after KCC was hopeful to see one?
Hmmmm..why not, indeed? April could be one dark time for shareholders..It is coming.
You think this is FUD? Well, just don't be a DOPE: https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173870548&txt2find=DOPE
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proto is a shareholder nightmare imo.
If I have any effect at all it would be from speeding up the movement that would take place anyway. The info is going to get out there eventually..I just try to speed that up.
But, everyone knows already the basics that caused the price to start to fall late summer when the expected deals didn't happen.
The honeymoon was over despite protyhype's pumping about a deal any day and several certainly by year end.
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For you conspiracy lovers, if “they“ control and manipulate the stock so much as quite a few here seem to have been duped into believing, why haven’t “they” been able to push it down to one dollar or less?
Anything material – that is anything that is likely to be seen as significant by shareholders — must be announced in an 8k filing within four business days.
That’s a fact. If there’s no announcement, then nothing significant has occurred.
I cringe every time you say there is no premium built into the stock price because it’s incredibly wrong.
There’s a nearly $500 million premium. That’s a lot for a company with no revenues. The market cap for this company is one of the highest of all stocks having no revenues. There’s only a dozen or so higher out of the thousands of stocks. These aren't my opinions. These are facts.
The very high overvaluation and premium is probably the main reason why the short position is so high, last I checked in the top 3% of all stocks
The stock has been heading back down to the pre-hype levels. The next few months are critical. If they fail to deliver, we will see a lot more blood because right now it’s still like an overstuffed blood sucking tick.
The Dec 4 letter was a manipulative technique used by the company to try and stop the price decline.
half-truths at best.
March 1 is a week away now..Some here have said they will wait until March 1 to judge Dr Lebby's credibility.
Early March is the 10K where the first deal revenue will be reported.
Remember Proto saying we could see millions in a surprise earnings report from this deal? Rubber meets the road.
imo.
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Not interested in arguing with a fraud, ProtoHype. eom..
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Stop the hype nonsense Proto. I showed a month ago that passive index funds own 7% and more of a lot of companies.
That's because these are TRILLION dollar funds. They don't know who Lightwave even is IMO.
PASSIVE investing...go ahead and look it up for a change!
ProtoHype again schooled by Druid:
The pumper is poppin a blood vessel !!
And already accusing Druid of being a short
So predictable
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Re the 3 recent hires
My take on the Controller and Sr Accountant is that they anticipate more bookkeeping for certain. That is not unexpected when you hire some dozen or more people in a short amount of time. Ana's experience with M&A MAY come into play if Lightwave is merged or decides to acquire someone else..all very iffy though.
Possible too that Mr Marcelli is just having too much fun at his beach house and would like someone else to take over some of his duties. It MAY be that Lightwave plans to acquire the local Stolle Machinery company and needed AnaQ's expertise, having last worked for Stolle. Why? Stolle is the world leader in can making, and Lightwave may well need some more cans to kick down the road..I could now insert a "stole" joke, but will pass this time..:)
Both hires are local which suggests there was a not a desire for an international powerhouse in preparation for parabolic expansion. Maybe in 5 years? But not now. For now they just need to handle all the additional employees, stock compensation, accounting for the office expansion and all that goes with it.
My take on the Purchasing Manager is that he will likely play a big role in the purchasing of various materials and equipment in response to anticipated requests both internally and from potential customers. This likely will be goo-related, but it also could be from expanding into other areas (lasers,etc..).The description clearly states it is for all engineering and office supplies, tools, equipment, packaging, and services. How much will stem from potential customers vs internal engineering requests to continue to prove out X,Y, and Z, is anybody's guess at this point. As is what kind of revenue/scale is being supported by the purchases...stand alone modulators for universities, or truly scaled purchases by data centers?
Time will tell. I predicted last August that after a year shareholders will be scratching their heads and asking just what the expansion was for. Hopefully that will be proven to be wrong, but here we are already 6 months later and nobody really knows yet...
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KCC just pushed back another 9 months, it appears!
What happened to getting worried if nothing by August? My 2024 list already coming true...
But it isn't true so it's slander. I"ve never shorted a stock in my life. I don't get paid to post.
I have no association with Kerrisdale and never have.
My history is easily found right here on IHUB. I am mostly a trader but the penny world trading soured a few years ago and since I would love to find a 'retirement stock' to buy and hold and ride into the sunset, Lightwave caught my attention more than before.
I have followed Lightwave since the Microcap Kitchen on SIlicon Investor was excited about it, but I never liked the $50m market cap back then...yet was intrigued by the high-tech big claims...Kept watching all these years. even bought some, liked the phd scientists angle, and the lack of death spiral financing..didn't like the high market cap still though..
Kerrisdale I thought was the nail in the coffin, finally exposing the scam, but some positives kept me wondering if Lightwave could be that stock for retirement. Still am. Just don't think it is though..Not "in love". More in love with reality: Do what you say you are going to do and don't hide/obfuscate/mislead your own shareholders.
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Re the award: an industry insider told me it is the equivalent of a bowling trophy and a poster that everyone respects here agreed with that assessment.
Normally I would be impressed by the award too, but not after I found that out.
It means little in the real world.
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sprinty, you made up your mind a while back and there's nothing I can say that will change it.
No matter how much it makes sense, you are incapable of comprehending why I have become semi-obsessed with pushing back against all of the "positivity" here - even when I state it as simply and clearly as can be.
Yet, we share a lot in common. You just can't see it. I want this company to be what they claim they are. I want KCC to be as accurate as he thinks he is.
But I have to be true to myself. There are many brilliant people that just can't solve certain complex issues - complete enough, fast enough, etc...when a company doesn't follow through on what they say - year after year after year, I don't just look the other way.
But you do. That's the difference that makes you incapable of understanding me. Good luck but really, why waste your time slandering me anymore? I'm just the messenger.
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I heavily questioned the Tier1 narrative in the fall of 2022 - asking if the reality was that Lightwave is on the junior varsity team trying to get the coach's attention, and wondered if GFS Fotonix was progressing or not...still do.
It's getting harder to keep the years straight. Maybe you meant 2021? Or 2020? Or 2019? etc...
And for newbies: ProtoHype is a FRAUD.
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how many times have I said I like the "what if" potential of Lightwave. I can dream too, but I won't be blind - at this point I give them maybe 10% chance of some level of success - and maybe 1% of the dreamed of ubiquity. Even though I (and the shorts) know the stock is grossly overvalued for what we know about their true "market acceptance" I do want to be on top of the issues in case they turn more positive.
There are other reasons that are secondary - helping expose the intentional obfuscation by the company, frauds on this board, help the unsuspecting newbie not get duped, fascination with the naivety of dreamers and conspiracy lovers come to mind, boredom, entertainment - but those are secondary.
So there you go sprinty. The truth, as always.
KCC did a 180 and fell "in love" apparently because he had just discovered what they put in the 3rd qtr market commentary. It doesn't matter to him what the company changed it to after that in the Dec 4 letter I guess...
How convenient.
Well, he did at least check on the difference - give credit where credit is due, though he claims he was "embarrassed" to do so. I guess he was embarrased because he is so "in love".
B.S. KCC's answer was strange. He said that he was told (by Lebby or MZ?) that "both statements are accurate".
So, that means several foundries are implementing PIC designs for multi-channel - 'including' 400x2 solutions for 800g. and that they are "planning to implement" the same "using commercial foundries".
Why the dampening down in language if they really are already implementing with "several"?
Obviously the truth isn't quite as positive as it was first presented.
Perhaps 2 foundries are already trying to use Lightwave's PIC designs to for testing plasmonics for 800g and Lightwave is working/planning for 400x2 but no foundries are actually implementing anything for that yet . That might be a way for both statements to be true...not worth reading 20, 10 or even 1 time.
Lightwave LOVES to obfuscate their status by comingling multiple approaches when they discuss what they are doing.
Shareholders have NO IDEA which approach they are talking about usually. That's intentional. They don't want us to know.
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proto doesn't care about the truth. That's how. You can try and figure out why but he's not so stupid to think that he is telling the truth - that's proven by his continuing to post nonsense after repeatedly being shown that it is nonsense.
Proto is here to HYPE. He is a fraud.
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"go back to the old presentations". Yeah, maybe I'll find something supporting this "commercial acceptance" from 10 years ago:
How is this any different than Polariton buying some perk to sell w modulators to Universities?
Druid schooled protyHYPE: Worth repeating: