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LOL! FATMAN is over on the HSM board attacking you because he says you have no "PROOF" HLS doesn't have 50 million dollars. Since he is the one who is making the claim they do has this sum of money, it would seem to me that he is the one who should be doing the proving. His record of lies streches all the way back to his Yahoo days of scamming under his alias which contained his real name of Patrick Downs in his profile.
He is also scrambling to create an alibi for the fact that IDWD's D&B report is pathetic and respresents a small time scam much more than any multi-million dollar corp. Even though he has officially and publicly revealed the name of HLS as HLS Worldwide,Inc., he is trying to lie his way out of the lack of a D&B report for his newly proclaimed financial powerhouse by saying no one knows the name HLS is really registered under with D&B.
How does anyone believe this POS Ogre?
Note to dirtyunderwearscammer: Patrick Downs! You pathetic criminal. We have the goods on you, boy. Soon, the whole world, including your probation officer, is going to have them too. Watch for a super duper mega web report to appear on IDWD in conjunction with a legal brief submitted to everyone's friends at the FBI, the SEC and the IRS. We want to make this as simple as possible, you conniving felon.
Have a nice day, FATMAN.
Today, 01:33 PM #827
undervaluehunter
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Just curious - how long have you been trading?
PennyCow and his twin CFP are both from IHUB: Open to you and all....after reviewing your .....late coming posts here.... and IHUB... seems to be you claim to know that HLS Worldwide, Inc. does not have $50 Million...Please for once post proof.....Not ASSumptions....
PPS: for most of thus that understand English, if you can't post proof( that means post docs you have access to....in a sober state), post your docs that you "know HLS does not have $50 Million"... waiting for you to post real D&B's not your drivel for HLS.....do you even no registered name of the company.....I bet you don't know squat.....IF you are super DD sleuth please tell us where this is registered......bet you FAIL.....LOL
Jag Are you sure you aren't part of a paid Paki pump team? I just read this post you put up over on HSM. What compelled you to post this?
Just out of curiosity, which University admitted you?
Today, 11:56 AM #819
jagvik12
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: NJ
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Short and Sweet....daytraders and hedge funds are in the dark. HLS a private company, announced thru IDS months ago bought out the homeland security division of IDS (HLS). Now daytraders are furious they don't know who HLS is......LOL.....as a private company now HLS can pursue, acquire, spin-off...whatever is latest basher phrase....whatever they choose to do as they are a private company. The day HLS becomes public requires no notice.... thus the 500k mailing to private investors....Daytraders grab your nuts and hold on for the ride
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Purely hypothetical, but what would happen if HLS bought out a company like MSGI, a $20+ stock? I've never stayed around long enough in a stock for when buyouts were announced, saw too many fall through. Does that mean HLS will essentially be MSGI, just under HLS but keep the stock price of $20+? Just wondering, because a $50Million budget to acquire whoever is a lot of money, and can get a company with a nice sized share price...
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"Success is not the result of spontaneous combustion, you must set yourself on fire."-Reggie Leach
Or a 2001 bankruptcy filing and a defunct Florida Corporation. Maybe he can invent another phone card or two and manage some more portfolios for the wealthy now that he is publicly connected to Dubai royalty from his top secret 150,000 square foot location in the center of the new Dubai business district to go along with his 10 story technology center in the heartland of Pakistan's silicon valley--all perfectly drawn up in an artist's rendering on his website.
You know, as I look back at all the stupid claims made by this grifting criminal, it is all I can do to hold back the puke.
It is easy to forget them all because they are,... well, forgetable. lol
Let's always try to remember backbone encryption, fraudulent awards, Virgin Island tech centers, dozens of newly built factories for fishing lures, safety needles and flash drives, Pakistani terrorist scientists, patent awards, stolen HTML code, motorbike riding fire alarm salesmen, thousands of security "executives", secret wall street investment bankers, secret police department orders, secret one hundred million dollar buyouts for 1/3 interests in websites, 37 billion dollar contracts, mergers, acquistions, Chinese dialect translation operations and Frankenstein photo ops.
All of these are important if we are to put together true DD on this mega corp.
Oh I forgot one. According to one of the new Paki Pumpers on this board, the FATMAN's now into genetic sequencing too. We can't leave that blockbuster out of the equation.
As a side note, I noticed this same Paki Pumper is over on RB spreading the exact same bullshit.
No If you think Motorola, Nokia and Samsung are going to let a tiny company with no business take market share from them over a stinking biometric lock-out feature, think again. FATMAN won't even get any retail exposure.
The FATMAN is full of crap. Bol. I know you aren't retarded, so hasn't it ever seemed odd to you that in the last 11 months, this company has gone from being in the web design business, to making safety needles, to CD manufacturing, to fishing lure infomercials, to selling used cars, to web hosting, to selling burglar alarms in Pakistan, to selling flash drives, to creating new forms of Chinese written languages, to selling cell phones? It is particularly funny that few of these businesses have anything to do with one another.
None of the things they have said they would do in a big way have ever happened. This is a scam. Wake up. lol
It is clear that the FATMAN just reads Business Week and siezes on the latest hot story and then claims he is in the business. He has admitted this indirectly in his underwaterhobbit posts on HSM.
I don't know what to think of someone who would believe a convicted stock fraud, grand theft and forgery felon who posts on message boards and pumps his stock while he sells illegal free trading shares put in his wife's maiden name.
I especially do not know what to think of you now that the FATMAN has all of his stock restrictions lifted. He is probably dumping daily and this is why the stock is 1/3 of the price it was two months ago.
Yes! And the best part of the new National Master Distributor, STE who supposedly had an immediate market for 100,000 over-priced flash drives?
They sell Toshiba telephone handsets to a few people in Central Florida. They are a dealer, not a distributor. These are just the sort of people a smart guy like FatPat would use to roll out a campaign to sell and distribute computer flash drives nationwide.
Note to Downs: But sometimes there is more to a lying PR than meets the eye, Right FATMAN?
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!
Yes. The convicted grand theft, stock fraud and forgery felon is now a super duper genetic sequencing scientist.
Hey. He claims HLS scientists develop technology with Samsung, why not get in on the genetic sequencing game too? If there is a buck to be pumped out of it, you can expect a PR on Monday Morning.
The FATMAN cures aids!! The FATMAN has developed a new food source to be consumed by Chinese as they learn to read his new written language and buy cars over the internet while protecting their hard drives from fishing lures and needlezaps.
It all makes perfect sense.
So the FATMAN is going to pump a private company which does not trade to 500 thousand people, huh? This sounds logical.
Ask undervalueDowns over on the HSM board where the big block buyer was that was promised for today? He lied about that to all the idiots over there earlier in the week as he was trying to pump up the pig, but the big block buyer was a no show.
Just like all the other promises from that convict.
It's the wrong Downs, fella. Learn how to read. Don't they teach you that over in the Paki Pump Palace?
You got the wrong Downs. LMAO! Give it up Patty.
Scamming doesn't work here. DatatechDowns left in disgrace and went to con HSM newbies after he made up that fake Bangkok awards banquet report. Now we are supposed to believe the forgery felon is a patent holder?
He tried the name con trick over on Yahoo and got laughed off the boards there too.
You are removing many of our posts. If you don't want the accusations, then stop chopping our posts off the board. You act as though you are some kind of savior.--For whom, I have not yet decided.
I could understand it if you were clamping down on personal attacks and the like, but there are none and then you cut our posts and complain when we assume you have a motive for it.
I would be nuts to think you did not have a motive. I read your crazy pump on this scam over on HSM. Give us a break.
The FATMAN just makes up whatever Bullshit he thinks will con those hapless nitwits over on HSM, but the scam has played out. Very few of them are dumb enough to go along with his crap anymore. Thank God, too. His stock is off restriction.
It's not my proposed pump team, jag. It is the one the FATMAN has admitted himself in today's PR Read it carefully.
Today's news proves I am right about the FATMAN's pumping. The grifting conster admits it in his own news story!!!!!!!!!!
HLS is using their own advisors and resources for this small cap investor campaign. The FATMAN is such an idiot. HLS is not supposed to directly be involved in the pump. What a dolt!
HLS and IDWD> In house paki pump teams all over the message boards spreading lies and led by the FATMAN himself as underwaterhobbit.
It should be interesting to read the stocklemon's report on this fraud.
JAG! You are really acting like a real jerk. You keep removing our posts and they are directly related to busting this scam. It is inexcusable. There is nothing we are doing which is in violation of IHUB's TOS.
We are just calling a spade a spade. PatFat and his paki pump team are the laughing stock of the stock market. Why shouldn't they be spoofed? Are you one of them?
Maybe when the SEC brief is submitted, we can note the obvious plan to make sure the dissent was squelched and by whom.
If you think FATPAT's PRs are fact, you are blind to reality. All you have to do is read all of the crap issued to the public over the past year to see he is a stinking liar
It is total BS (I used the intials just for you jag) that this kid comes in here and wipes out posts which are a legit spoof of the FATPAT high crimes and misdemeanors.
This kid lets the power go to his head. He can't analyze a stock, he gets fooled by a bogus con man who is dumping stock and trading illegal free trading shares and he thinks he knows enough to tell us what is and is not appropriate.
Mind blowing.
What happened to our posts? Now we are not allowed to spoof FATPAT? His Paki Pumping HLS operation is certainly suspect. Jag is becoming a real pain in the neck.
JAG!!! This isn't HSM and I sincerely doubt Matt wants it to be. HSM is just a shadow of IHUB's strength.
So it's exactly as I suspected all along.
PATFAT's stock should be off restriction as of yesterday at the latest.
Watch out for the fullcourt press from here on out. The lies should be running rampant and the Feds could be on alert.
Rumor has it the Stock Lemon and The Stock Patrol have been notified too.
Well you got one thing right. You should never "quite literally" read anything into his garbage PRs. They are full of lies and chicanery.
Come on Jag. You claim to be a college student. Show this garbled PR mess of the last one year to a business professor and get his opinion. Unless he is on crack he will tell you it is time to wake up. FATMAN is a lying con.
The word is the lost courier was the pilot.
PATFAT must be on travel restrictions from his grand theft felony probation officer. He has to wait for a meeting with the HLS "executives" to find out what their aquisition plans are. LMAO! Very funny stuff. IDWD supposedly has control of this phony operation and PATFAT doesn't know what their plans ARE?
The lost courier is a witch who has cast a spell on poor IDS
lol You can sure see FATPAT's stock is off restriction now. He puts out two PRs a day in a vain attempt to put lipstick on this pig.
It's all pretty funny. His last two PRs do not jive with one another, but what else is new under the sun? We have a lost courier strategy at work again and it all does not make sense to anyone unless they have FATPAT MadPat Brain Disease. It's something like madcow. Your brain turns to mush and you unexplainably give your money to stock fraud felons.
Pay close attention to his claims of meetings held in New York and to be held in Oralndo along with his "12 hour flight delay" claim. The timelines do not match up. Note the times on the PRs. if you are dense.
Downs is a joke. He is such a scamming con. I am going to leave out the artist part from now on because he is much too dumb. Only a bird brain could believe this liar.
You are rambling like UVH-Datatech-TheWatchdog-MicrosoftEngineer-Professorxyz always does. Is that contagious?
Seriously, you need to study up on this. If current IDWD shareholders have 45 million of the HLS entity and IDWD owns a majority interest and we assume the HLS guys have a decent percentage interest at all, it would bring the total O/S up to 200 million or more. This isn't tough math. If you are really in college, you should be able to piece it together.
Wow. JAG should try posting at Yahoo for about 15 minutes. He would get called every foul name in the book. I didn't realize bullshit in this case was vulgar. I just looked at the word as an adequate description of PATFAT's Press Releases.
I was tired of using the best word:
LIES.
LOl I tried to buy his stock at .095, but some asshole hit the .10 and now is bidding .10. I was hoping rgzoo man would give me some cheapies.
Authorized is not issued. No one owes any "dividend" against shares which have never been issued. Like I said before, I know you are a new investor, but you need to understand how the markets work.
I'm waiting. If you have more than I am bidding I will put more up to buy. As long as you are not sitting on more than a half-million, I'll buy them all today. If it is more than that, you'll have to wait on me to wire funds to my account. I could be buying from you again tomorrow.
I don't have a clue what you are talking about. How could this be true?
if IDWD has 100 Million AS, that is 100 Million dividend shares for HLS
HLS didn't have to pay a "dividend" on the A/S but the O/S. (It was never a dividend anyway, but a spin-off. Patrick just used this term to scam you)
or this?
If IDS owns 60 Million shares of IDWD, they own 60 Million shares of HLS.
How could IDS own 60 million shares of itself? The entire company only has 45.3 million shares. And the company doesn't own shares of itself other than what is called treasury stock, and this is included.
Since you are receiving this fake dividend, HLS is already separate other than the majority interest which is held by IDWD.
You need to go back to school on this one. You don't understand enough about how the public markets work. If you did, you would know that the story Pat tells you through his uvh alias is total bullshit.
How many shares do you have? I'll buy them from you. Put them out at .095 and I'll buy all of them
This stock should have probably never traded to .39 that day. The shakerzzz's momo group was trading it then.
The news wasn't very complete at that time and still isn't. MGGV is a newly trading company and until enough people are aware it exists, it will probably have its good days and bad days. I am happy with it so far and have been accumulating it into weakness.
The .51 high was before this company was really trading. There was a price adjustment after the reverse split. There was no real volume on this stock until it was at 27 cents.
There has been slippage since, but the metals stocks have been dead. GG, a major miner, has fallen from 41 dollars to 27. This stock has fallen more proportionately, but not a lot more given that it is a microcap. As metals stocks recover, I think this will do just fine and if history is any indication, it could easily outperform the majors on the way back up.
Bol You're not thinking straight over on HSM. Neither is moderator Jag. IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE for there to only be 100 million shares in HLS. Here's why.
First your HSM post and then the truth.
Today, 10:16 AM #632
bol23123
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 86 Jagvik I believe you are right on with that 100 million. Makes more sense than Derfs projections.
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Current IDWD shareholders have 45 million shares of HLS.
IDWD as a company controls a majority interest in HLS (according to IDWD PRS). This means they have to own significantly more than 45 million shares.
HLS people own the balance.
It's simple math bol. If IDWD owns let's say, 51% and current IDWD shareholders own 45 million, then what kind of ownership do HLS people have? None? lol I guess they paid 41.5 million dollars for nothing, huh?
Of course, we know there was never a 41.5 million dollar sale or anything like that, but I am just doing this as an academic exercise. Downs is a convicted stock fraud swindler and he is committing fraud here nearly everytime he issues a PR. He lies all the time.
And Downs is even worse. Last fall, he got a 600 thousand dollar bank judgement against him. He tried to file bankruptcy in 2001. And we are supposed to believe this company has "been around for years" and has spent "millions of dollars" developing everything and building factories? Only a retarded moron would believe this.
Biometrics Security, the current registrant for 995ad.com is a privately held defunct Florida Corp. IDWD isn't even the owner. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Order a D&B report on IDWD. You'll have a great laugh.
Neither IDWD nor HLS has any money or credit.
The explanation is that it is just another FATPAT lying scam.
What else is new?
Jag. I wonder if you have considered an important point.
Let's for one minute assume the fantasy land created by FATPAT is the only thing that matters. You claim to be a college student so this shouldn't be over your head.
Remember that IDWD only owns about 51% to 60% of HLS.
Current IDWD shareholders hold much much less of a percentage of this private, non trading company.
How in the hell did that liar Downs ever come up with a 1.10 per share value for the spin-off shares? If IDWD owns even half of the company, it should be reflected in the stock price. It isn't showing the holding is worth anything at all other than the hype value.
derf1
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Join Date: May 2006
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SHARES OUTSTANDING IN HLS WORLDWIDE
I have seen no discussions on this board as to the number of shares that will be outstanding in HLS Worldwide once the dust settles. The knowns are that: current IDWD shareholders will own about 45 million shares, IDWD will have the majority of shares and HDS will own slightly less than the majority of the shares. A logical assumption is that the percentage of shares that will be owned by the three parties in HLS Worldwide will be something in the order of: current IDWD shareholders 10 %, IDWD 50 % and HLS 40 %. If these percentages are close to correct, there will be about 450 million shares outstanding; 45M IDWD shareholders, 225M IDWD, and 180M HLS. That is a lot of shares. Even worse, what if the IDWD shareholders only own 5% of the outstanding shares. That would translate into 900 Million shares outstanding; 45 Million x 20. For the new HLS Worldwide stock to trade at $2 with 450 Million shares outstanding that would require a Market Cap of $900 million. For the stock to sell for $2 with 900 Million shares outstanding the market cap would be $1.8 billion. The point I am trying to make is do not expect these new shares to be trading at $2 anytime soon. Remember, the market cap for IDWD is currently only about $30 million dollars (45 million shares x 70 cents). If HLS Worldwide starts out with a market cap of lets say $300 million, the per share price will be somewhere between 17 and 33 cents.
Miners coming back to life!
EUROPE MARKETS
Resource stocks boost European indexes
MarketWatch
Last Update: 7:33 AM ET Jun 22, 2006
LONDON (MarketWatch) -- European shares traded higher on Thursday as strong gains from resource stocks and a higher finish to trading on Wall Street once more provided impetus for a market still nervously eyeing interest-rate direction...
Mining shares such as Anglo American (AAUK : anglo amern plc adr
AAUK0.) (UK:AAL: , Antofagasta (UK:ANTO: news, chart, profile) and Vedanta (UK:VED) and oil companies including BP (BP : bp plc sponsored adr and Royal Dutch Shell (RDS.A : royal dutch shell plc spons adr a were among the top advancers in Europe on Thursday.
The resource sector gains came as gold futures rose by $5 an ounce and as light sweet crude oil breached the $71 a barrel mark in electronic trading.
http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?column=Europe+Markets&siteid=mktw&dist=
Yes. The metals are moving. The major gold compaies like GG are moving up too. The microcaps will most often follow later, but the moves could be much bigger. They usually are.
On second thought, why don't you turn yourself into the SEC? That was exposed as a total fabrication.
Downs lies in those PRs. Wake up. A bird brain can figure it out.