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rrriiiinnnnggg, riiiinnnnggg, hello, and welcome to the Internal Revenue Service, may I help you?
Hi, Yes, I am inquiring about a Company that has stated they have been doing 5 MILLION in ANNUAL sales, and I wanted to find out some information.
Thats how it will start.....
Or, Illum is a liar...
Or, Dan will prove the 5 MILLION anually, reported as such, and I am TOTALLY wrong.......
we will see......
and you wonder why never a PR on the 5 MILLION ANNUAL SALES stated by Dan to Illum?
will post WHEN/IF Dan replies to the email.
I thank you again gorb, GREAT reply.
All Illum has to do is get Dan to say YES, we have been doing 5 MILLION in ANNUAL SALES, and that will put me right in my place.
correct gorby?
If Dan does, you can bet I will be on it faster then flies on you.
ALL MONIES WOULD HAVE TO BE REPORTED. Dan, is Illuminati correct in that conversattion he posted.
Is/was PRRM/SMMW doing/did 5 MILLION ANNUALLY?
Would love to hear the answer, no matter which it is.
lmao.
thx again gorby boy.
but gorb, guess what you just did for me. Wow, just clicked on, like a light. Yes, it was a GREAT post.
NOW, lets seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
If Dan were to confirm it, he would have had to report it as INCOME to the IRS, correct? He can say helll with the shareholders by not filing financials, but not the government.
Sooooooooooo, If Illum is LIEING, then Dan SURELY would not back him up with a reply stateing, YES, we are doing 5 MILLION in revs...if in fact they WEREN'T, because then....lol
correct?
thx gorby boy.
lame and pathetic. you are stooping..
"By: illuminati2012
16 Apr 2005, 02:37 PM EDT
Msg. 32821 of 67567
Jump to msg. #
I just got off the phone with Dan, he returned my call from earlier in the week. The a/s is 120 bil as we already knew, the o/s is 64 bil, 34 bil restricted 2 years and once the restriction lifts only 5% per quarter can be sold, 30 bil free trading. He expects the o/s to be 65 bil. Lots of things in the works, this will be a major long term ROI for those that hold.
Short term he expected the pps would be higher already, but he expects to come public with some announcements and figures by the end of this month to mid May. He said they are doing about 5 mil in annual sales.
READ THAT LAST SENTENCE.
Yet Dan hasn't PR'd that?
couldn't pay rent?
waitng on Dan's email reply, and Illum's Ihub reply.
"just tosed the spam again" If anything should be tossed, it should be you.
Back up what you posted. Answer the questions brought by JT.
You may be able to save what shread of " benefit of the doubt"
you have left.
IDEA. Illum, since you like to FORWARD posts to Dan, like you did with COR's, forward this one to him and tell him to release a PR explaining it all.
No problem right?
Dan didn't like when clock posted their conversation, I would like to know he feels about what YOU posted.
Or are you ONE SIDED?
here it is:
By Jt:
30 Nov 2005
Regular Shares: 33,797,804,897
Restricted Shares: 37,383,768,046
Total Shares: 71,181,572,943
Figures as of 2.10.06
Regular Shares 36,797,804,907
Restricted Shares 33,383,768,046
Total Shares 70,181,572,853"
Here's the numbers as of 3/2/2006.
Regular: 38,507,804,897
Restricted: 29,733,768,046
Total: 68,241,572,943
the restricted has fallen by 8,142,195,103 shares and it appears at least 4,710,000,000 have found their way into the tradeable in a few months...actually the majority in just a few days...
HOW can this be illum...care to explain it...
"By: illuminati2012
16 Apr 2005, 02:37 PM EDT
Msg. 32821 of 67567
Jump to msg. #
I just got off the phone with Dan, he returned my call from earlier in the week. The a/s is 120 bil as we already knew, the o/s is 64 bil, 34 bil restricted 2 years and once the restriction lifts only 5% per quarter can be sold, 30 bil free trading. He expects the o/s to be 65 bil. Lots of things in the works, this will be a major long term ROI for those that hold.
Short term he expected the pps would be higher already, but he expects to come public with some announcements and figures by the end of this month to mid May. He said they are doing about 5 mil in annual sales. Dan is going to Santa Cruz this week to visit someone associated with Stockli.
The pps will rise relatively soon and pennies are not beyond reach, if you can't wait or wish not to, you will watch others prosper instead of you. Look, the entire o/s has a current value of 6.5 million dollars, relatively nothing. "
"By: illuminati2012
24 May 2005, 08:41 PM EDT
Msg. 35338 of 67567
(This msg. is a reply to 35334 by clockwatcher10.)
Jump to msg. #
the restricted shares are restricted for two years and the beginning of the restriction could not have begun before last fall, give or take. Once the restriction lifts the holders can only sell 5% per quarter."
and this one...
"By: illuminati2012
26 May 2005, 02:09 PM EDT
Msg. 35491 of 67567
(This msg. is a reply to 35482 by clockwatcher10.)
Jump to msg. #
clock...the restricted shares are as I stated yesterday, 2 years, including all the shares Dan owns and has bought on the open market..automatically restricted. Technically, the holders of restricted shares could sell them to a broker, the broker is then governed under the exsisting restrictions. Soon on the skiershop should actually be soon, I did ask if that could still be a month or months, no should be soon.
He was going through the various bussinesses incorporated under PRRM, because I said I assumed they had to be profitable overall to sustain existance prior to going under the PRRM umbrella. That part was quick, but the bottom line is, they are profitable as a unit, not a net loss. He assumes the numbers with the multiples applied and forcast of growth comming will do the pps well.
He mentioned the NSS PR, I told him I did not understand why he released that. I said he obviously knew the shares were comming from the debt conversion and NSS or boxing was minimal at best, he agreed. The NSS PR came from many share holders expressing concern of the issue. Dillution from the debt is done, as can be seen also in the volume, we are going to see some volume daily as not everyone can or will hold for the completions to come soon.
IMO some restricted shares may be converted to prefered which will reduce the o/s, a further reduction in a/s at the same time along with any insider buys...well, that will be helpfull. Alot of activity after skiershop closes, skiershop is of course profitable, stockli too...duh.
IMO any release of intermidiate profitable financials announced with or shortly after the skiershop closing, with a statement of audited to follow within weeks will be very helpfull.
He also said, just from conversations with investors like myself and others, plus some of the corporations with large holdings, he can account for roughly 20 billion of the O/S.
I'm hanging on to my shares, I'd advise you do to. For sure bad news does not await us, just a matter of a little longer for PRRM to start rising IMO."
HOW did those restricted shares get into the tradeable when dan himself told you it was basically impossible for that to happen...
and with dan supposedly holding roughly 20 BILLION back then and adding the PUMPED 4+ BILLION he's supposedly already bought and counting your 1.2 BILLION shares you can account for 26+ BILLION shares just between the two of you correct...then take into account the BILLIONS being held in safe hands according to gorbec...so you guys basically own the float correct...when does the PUMP start about the 'short position' here...or is that already being bandied about...
back to the cave to watch the next episode while I await your explanation...
later
NO REPLY FROM DAN EITHER. GO FIGURE.
Hi Illum!! How you doing?? Why didn't you answer the post by JT?
we know why.
another 1/2 BILLION and .0001..how many BILLIONS is that now? since stage II?
icg>>>>>Last Sale: 0.0001
Change: -0.0001
Percent Change: -50.00
Tick: Down
Daily High: 0.0002 Daily Low: 0.0001
Opening Price: 0.0001 Volume: 480,080,995
That was the OFFICIAL, not the after 16:00 PAINT JOB.
stop the bs.
bunch of DREAMERS here.....lmao
what stock have they purchased gorb?
"nor does he give out buy, sell or hold advice to anyone"
yet you say I better get mine soon or miss the boat.
you know what the word for that is?
be real interesting to see if Dan jumps up and answers the email. He sure jumped about COR'S..
sirant, guessing?????? 4+ BILLION added to REGULAR TRADEABLE.
No guessing needed.
Hey, I was bored, did it for you>>>>>>>>>>
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:05:14 -0800 (PST)
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To: summus@summusworks.com
Mr. Burgess,
Could you please elaborate on the following posts made by a poster who makes it known that he has direct contact with you, and to the CONTENT involved.
Did you have these conversations with the poster?
Are the statements made in the posts true? ie, 5 MILLION in sales, etc?
Any reply would be appreciated.
"By: illuminati2012
16 Apr 2005, 02:37 PM EDT
Msg. 32821 of 67567
Jump to msg. #
I just got off the phone with Dan, he returned my call from earlier in the week. The a/s is 120 bil as we already knew, the o/s is 64 bil, 34 bil restricted 2 years and once the restriction lifts only 5% per quarter can be sold, 30 bil free trading. He expects the o/s to be 65 bil. Lots of things in the works, this will be a major long term ROI for those that hold.
Short term he expected the pps would be higher already, but he expects to come public with some announcements and figures by the end of this month to mid May. He said they are doing about 5 mil in annual sales. Dan is going to Santa Cruz this week to visit someone associated with Stockli.
The pps will rise relatively soon and pennies are not beyond reach, if you can't wait or wish not to, you will watch others prosper instead of you. Look, the entire o/s has a current value of 6.5 million dollars, relatively nothing. "
"By: illuminati2012
24 May 2005, 08:41 PM EDT
Msg. 35338 of 67567
(This msg. is a reply to 35334 by clockwatcher10.)
Jump to msg. #
the restricted shares are restricted for two years and the beginning of the restriction could not have begun before last fall, give or take. Once the restriction lifts the holders can only sell 5% per quarter."
and this one...
"By: illuminati2012
26 May 2005, 02:09 PM EDT
Msg. 35491 of 67567
(This msg. is a reply to 35482 by clockwatcher10.)
Jump to msg. #
clock...the restricted shares are as I stated yesterday, 2 years, including all the shares Dan owns and has bought on the open market..automatically restricted. Technically, the holders of restricted shares could sell them to a broker, the broker is then governed under the exsisting restrictions. Soon on the skiershop should actually be soon, I did ask if that could still be a month or months, no should be soon.
He was going through the various bussinesses incorporated under PRRM, because I said I assumed they had to be profitable overall to sustain existance prior to going under the PRRM umbrella. That part was quick, but the bottom line is, they are profitable as a unit, not a net loss. He assumes the numbers with the multiples applied and forcast of growth comming will do the pps well.
He mentioned the NSS PR, I told him I did not understand why he released that. I said he obviously knew the shares were comming from the debt conversion and NSS or boxing was minimal at best, he agreed. The NSS PR came from many share holders expressing concern of the issue. Dillution from the debt is done, as can be seen also in the volume, we are going to see some volume daily as not everyone can or will hold for the completions to come soon.
IMO some restricted shares may be converted to prefered which will reduce the o/s, a further reduction in a/s at the same time along with any insider buys...well, that will be helpfull. Alot of activity after skiershop closes, skiershop is of course profitable, stockli too...duh.
IMO any release of intermidiate profitable financials announced with or shortly after the skiershop closing, with a statement of audited to follow within weeks will be very helpfull.
He also said, just from conversations with investors like myself and others, plus some of the corporations with large holdings, he can account for roughly 20 billion of the O/S.
I'm hanging on to my shares, I'd advise you do to. For sure bad news does not await us, just a matter of a little longer for PRRM to start rising IMO."
HOW did those restricted shares get into the tradeable when dan himself told you it was basically impossible for that to happen...
and with dan supposedly holding roughly 20 BILLION back then and adding the PUMPED 4+ BILLION he's supposedly already bought and counting your 1.2 BILLION shares you can account for 26+ BILLION shares just between the two of you correct...then take into account the BILLIONS being held in safe hands according to gorbec...so you guys basically own the float correct...when does the PUMP start about the 'short position' here...or is that already being bandied about...
back to the cave to watch the next episode while I await your explanation...
later
IDEA. Illum, since you like to FORWARD posts to Dan, like you did with COR's, forward this one to him and tell him to release a PR explaining it all.
No problem right?
Dan didn't like when clock posted their conversation, I would like to know he feels about what YOU posted.
Or are you ONE SIDED?
here it is:
By Jt:
30 Nov 2005
Regular Shares: 33,797,804,897
Restricted Shares: 37,383,768,046
Total Shares: 71,181,572,943
Figures as of 2.10.06
Regular Shares 36,797,804,907
Restricted Shares 33,383,768,046
Total Shares 70,181,572,853"
Here's the numbers as of 3/2/2006.
Regular: 38,507,804,897
Restricted: 29,733,768,046
Total: 68,241,572,943
the restricted has fallen by 8,142,195,103 shares and it appears at least 4,710,000,000 have found their way into the tradeable in a few months...actually the majority in just a few days...
HOW can this be illum...care to explain it...
"By: illuminati2012
16 Apr 2005, 02:37 PM EDT
Msg. 32821 of 67567
Jump to msg. #
I just got off the phone with Dan, he returned my call from earlier in the week. The a/s is 120 bil as we already knew, the o/s is 64 bil, 34 bil restricted 2 years and once the restriction lifts only 5% per quarter can be sold, 30 bil free trading. He expects the o/s to be 65 bil. Lots of things in the works, this will be a major long term ROI for those that hold.
Short term he expected the pps would be higher already, but he expects to come public with some announcements and figures by the end of this month to mid May. He said they are doing about 5 mil in annual sales. Dan is going to Santa Cruz this week to visit someone associated with Stockli.
The pps will rise relatively soon and pennies are not beyond reach, if you can't wait or wish not to, you will watch others prosper instead of you. Look, the entire o/s has a current value of 6.5 million dollars, relatively nothing. "
"By: illuminati2012
24 May 2005, 08:41 PM EDT
Msg. 35338 of 67567
(This msg. is a reply to 35334 by clockwatcher10.)
Jump to msg. #
the restricted shares are restricted for two years and the beginning of the restriction could not have begun before last fall, give or take. Once the restriction lifts the holders can only sell 5% per quarter."
and this one...
"By: illuminati2012
26 May 2005, 02:09 PM EDT
Msg. 35491 of 67567
(This msg. is a reply to 35482 by clockwatcher10.)
Jump to msg. #
clock...the restricted shares are as I stated yesterday, 2 years, including all the shares Dan owns and has bought on the open market..automatically restricted. Technically, the holders of restricted shares could sell them to a broker, the broker is then governed under the exsisting restrictions. Soon on the skiershop should actually be soon, I did ask if that could still be a month or months, no should be soon.
He was going through the various bussinesses incorporated under PRRM, because I said I assumed they had to be profitable overall to sustain existance prior to going under the PRRM umbrella. That part was quick, but the bottom line is, they are profitable as a unit, not a net loss. He assumes the numbers with the multiples applied and forcast of growth comming will do the pps well.
He mentioned the NSS PR, I told him I did not understand why he released that. I said he obviously knew the shares were comming from the debt conversion and NSS or boxing was minimal at best, he agreed. The NSS PR came from many share holders expressing concern of the issue. Dillution from the debt is done, as can be seen also in the volume, we are going to see some volume daily as not everyone can or will hold for the completions to come soon.
IMO some restricted shares may be converted to prefered which will reduce the o/s, a further reduction in a/s at the same time along with any insider buys...well, that will be helpfull. Alot of activity after skiershop closes, skiershop is of course profitable, stockli too...duh.
IMO any release of intermidiate profitable financials announced with or shortly after the skiershop closing, with a statement of audited to follow within weeks will be very helpfull.
He also said, just from conversations with investors like myself and others, plus some of the corporations with large holdings, he can account for roughly 20 billion of the O/S.
I'm hanging on to my shares, I'd advise you do to. For sure bad news does not await us, just a matter of a little longer for PRRM to start rising IMO."
HOW did those restricted shares get into the tradeable when dan himself told you it was basically impossible for that to happen...
and with dan supposedly holding roughly 20 BILLION back then and adding the PUMPED 4+ BILLION he's supposedly already bought and counting your 1.2 BILLION shares you can account for 26+ BILLION shares just between the two of you correct...then take into account the BILLIONS being held in safe hands according to gorbec...so you guys basically own the float correct...when does the PUMP start about the 'short position' here...or is that already being bandied about...
back to the cave to watch the next episode while I await your explanation...
later
mugsy,
you can't be this stubborn, or stupid.
Taking FREE restricted shares and converting them into REGULAR TRADEABLE, then DUMPING them into the market, IS DILUTION.
no matter what spin you want to put on it, its dilution.
Dan did NO favor for anyone here.
anyone????>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and with dan supposedly holding roughly 20 BILLION back then and adding the PUMPED 4+ BILLION he's supposedly already bought and counting your 1.2 BILLION shares you can account for 26+ BILLION shares just between the two of you correct...then take into account the BILLIONS being held in safe hands according to gorbec...so you guys basically own the float correct...when does the PUMP start about the 'short position' here...or is that already being bandied about...
so is it true?
Gorb?
Do you select FEW own the float?
Or is Illum just a liar?
Illuminati, especially want to hear about this part>>>>>
"He said they are doing about 5 mil in annual sales"
They are?????????/
proof of that please..
Illuminati, be a man, answer whatshisnames post...can't wait to hear it.
"Within the next two weeks" gonna hold you too that. When the stock goes NOWHERE, you will admit you were wrong, and knew NOTHING, correct?
"Please put your trays in the upright position and your seat's up", place oxygen masks over your face, bend over, grab your knees, we are about to dilute you more.....
mugsy, complete lie.
whatshisname, Illum will not answer it. When pumpers are asked to back up their statements, they either dont answer at all, or do what gorb, bobky, mugs, etc. do......
you know what I mean.
HUGE DUMP into PR's..
tradeable INCREASED 4 BILLION recently.
yes, BBBBBIIIIILLLLLIIIIOOOOONNNNN.
O/S = 68 BILLION.....
pretty funny gorb, you see how many posts there are on this stock on RB? Then how many are here? NOBODY wants this pos.
Combine both boards posts and they dont even come close to QBID or CMKX.
understand why?
DILUTED
P.
O.
S.
"coach-this is the best SMMW has looked in 2 years almost"
that's not saying much.
it had 6 on the bid before, just to go nowhere.
P.
O.
S.
look at the pathetic pumpers go. lmao.
looks like you guys are the ones dancin..
which was a TOTAL lie. The TRADEABLE INCREASED.
By: JT "the TA has always updated changes immediately"
LOL WHEN...
the TA was gagged while astrom DUMPED BILLIONS of shares on shareholders with dans help...
there was NO IMMEDIATE UPDATE to the TA then and there isn't NOW in my opinion...
has anyone gotten a REAL explanation from dan and not themountman as to how those supposedly 2 year restricted with lockup/dribble provisions on them got into the market 1 year early and all at the same time in just a matter of a few days...
5% I believe it was that dan told YOU correct illum...
dan also told YOU PERSONALLY that they were ALL restricted for 2 years correct...
so again HOW did 3+ BILLION shares of 2 year restricted with lockup/dribble provisions on them get into the market 1 year early and ALL at the same time...
did dan LIE to you illum...
or did you LIE to your fellow shareholders
getting better and better every day that people in our society are learning how to read and write.
By whatshisname>>>> This says it all.
Regarding today's .0002 prints:
5,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
2,000,000
1,000,000
1,000,000
500,000
500,000
750,000
5,000
300,000
2,000
21,062,000 Total shares today at .0002
That represents:
21 million out of the 1.9 billion shares traded today.
1.1% of the total
$4,212
Unless Dan PR's he's bought back a large portion of the OS this turkey ain't moving anywhere except to the chopping block.
PR's that keep promising something in the future will not do it either.
The PR's since the symbol change all have one thing in common. They portend future events but not ACHIEVEMENTS. The only reason a stock will move on hype alone is if the OS is in the millions and not billions.
CMKX?. That run lasted only a hand full of days before the weight of itself brought that house of cards down. Dan better start demonstrating achievements sometime soon or we go nowhere.