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the funniest part of that 5000 share trade at the ask is today if it was at the bid it would have wiped out about 5 market makers.
Classic Market Maker control on this one. THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY BE VERY VERY SHORT ON THIS.
LET HOPE THE NEWS IS GREAT AND THIS ONE GOES OVER .20. HOLDING MY BREATH BIT TIME. BUCKS GLTA
Just how much control is VERT going to lay out on this. It just makes no sense to me. Super Low float and this is going to trade over 6 million shares most all obove .0045 area and they took this down on nothing.
Time for Tivu to get its mojo back. Lets see if the market makers can hold this back now. This should be interesting.
NEWS HAS TO BE GREAT OR VERT MIGHT TAKE THIS TO .0001 LMAO. THIS IS ALMOST SICK WHAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO.
this conference call better be a doozy or this might go to 01 the way this is getting played right now.
MARKET MAKERS ALWAYS WIN AND COMPLETELY CONTROL WHATS GOES ON DOWN AT THESE LEVELS.
THIS IS CRIMINAL. LOL GEEZ
the saddest part is flippers have allowed this to happen, If folks would not be selling this would have held.
LMAO, only in the stinky pinkes does this happen. Anticipation of great news and this is back to square one. LOL
IF THATS THE case the someone is dumping as many convertibles as they can. That would explain why this is going down as compared to up.
We just have to hope that the convertibles will end soon. Like right now. LOL
This should be over .10 right now if you ask me.
I have a feeling that the 711k trade was mostly a buy and now that the bid ask has dropped some they let it go off and made it look like a sell.
I just cant believe that this stock is not being bought up right before potentially one of the biggest conf. calls in TIVU history.
market maker playing this one. Overall this is looking good. I still believe this has .10 written all over it. I will be shocked if that level is not hit.
JMHO
JUST REMEMBER THE MARKET MAKERS WILL NEVER DO ANYTHING THAT WILL HURT THEMSELVES THAT THEY KNOW THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH. THEY WILL ALWAYS WORK TOWARDS THEIR ADVANTAGE IRREGARDLESS.
THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE WILD CARD DOWN HERE. UNLESS THERE JUST IS MONUMENTAL BUYING. RIGHT NOW IT CAN BE CONTROLLED
fROM WHAT i cant tell this drop has nothing to do with market maker VERT. It appears he is at .055.
this drop makes absolutely no sense with what appears to be great news on the horizon.
nothing down here makes sense anymore.
I GUESS ITS ALL ABOUT RIDING THE MARKET MAKERS. THEY ARE IN COMPLETE CONTROL NO MATTER WHAT THE STOCK IS OR WHAT THE SHARE STRUCTURE IS. THEY SIMPLY JUST MAKE UP THE RULES AS THEY GO TO BENEFIT THEMSELVES.
ONLY IN AMERICA. LOL
I would have to say that the rite aide deal and or increase in the float have already been factored into the share price. I have to believe that anyone that entered the into the runup and either sold out or repositioned themselves. I for one have never been hung up on the rite aid deal.
The share structure does make me nervous though. At .002 I feel that this stock with the right news can double or even get back at or near the .01 level. I M sure rite aid is not the only deal out there and we know that Heartland American is doing well.
Lets just see how this one goes from hear on out. Rite aide now would be some icing but I M not relaly banking on it. JMHO
Oh I M not really expecting news today either. Trust me I have my finger on the sell button when the timings right. I still think this is an easy double from this area. RITE AIDE OR NOT!!!!!
The reason you go public with a start up company IS??????????
THEY HAVE LESS THEN 50 MILLION OUTSTANDING FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS.
They are working with Double Tree?HILTON, Marriott or HSE.
I guess you think when you begin a start up company you should just have 4-5 million dollars laying around.
Oh by the way thats called a Private Company.
YOUR POST MAKES NO SENSE. LOL, and one of the funnier ones I have read on this board. LOL. GLTU
in spite of the market maker games so far its been a great day in TIVU LAND.
I REALLY THOUGHT THIS STOCK HAD .10 WRITTEN ALL OVER IT FOR SURE .06.
HOW MANY BUYS AT THE ASK DOES IT TAKE FOR THE ASK AND BID TO DROP.
ONLY THE MARKET MAKER KNOWS. LOL
Just too many buys at the ask for this stock to run today.
I KNOW I KNOW. NOTHING MAKES SENSE. LOL
100k at .055 and they drop the ask and the bid weakens. Classic.
these stocks never make sense. LOL I guess the bid came back to 2 deep now.
the 2 more buys at the ask at .054 and they drop it to .0053. classic again. shit at this rate with ask buying we will be even for the day. LOL
for what its worth today. 2.4 million buys 1.34 mil sells and 114k in question.
some basically 2 to 1 buys to sells. thats a good thing.
I just find it so frustrating how this just got walked down on buys then a few sales came in. I really thought .06 would be busted and that .10 was very possible.
VERT KILLED IT ALL AND NITE HELPED OUT AS WELL. OVER ALL A GOOD DAY.
I cant believe this stock is not at .10 today. What do we have right now. Ole VERT on the ask at .055.
You would think they would want this upwards as well. I can never figure that one out.
I have held this stock for about 6 months and there has been some huge volume days in there. I dont believe the nov 2010 share structure to be correct. i cant get any info from anyone on this stock. I would not be surprise to see the float in the 5-6 billion share range. JMHO but this has been a diluted pig for along time.
I dont think I saw every trade but it sure looked like this got walked down from .06 on buys at the ask. Very interesting,.
Holy shit 5000 shares just wiped out .055. LMAO. Market maker must be reloading for power hour. wow
Ok, this is what I want to see, the bid get stronger and then even small buys begin to move the bid ask upwards.
maybe just maybe this one is set to move up on buying volume.
The best day I have seen since the first trading day of jan. Actually this one is even better.
Solid buying coming in. glta
Thats what I keep saying. Mel has this stock so beat up no one wants enter it. The 30-50 machines are old news now as well.
I have not clue what will make this stock move upwards.
I guess we need Juicy back. At least it was trading solidly in the .0006 -0007 range.
yeah I know it hit .0009 briefly.
Mel wyman is a crook, its that simple. jmho
At least some bid support at .0003 is something. once he begins dumping I doubt it will last long.
.0003 held up forever. it was shocking.
LMAO. And I thought 6 months ago .0009 would be an easy double.
I bet Mel would be laughing his ass off at that one. LOL
I think the market makers shot themselves in the foot today.
the tiny sells and they kept tanking the bid ask when it was about ready to bust .06 killed the mojo thus far.
wonder what power hour will do. I would not be surprised to see this go down to the low .04's now with the volume drying up.
I would have thought the market makers would have let this baby go big time but now it appears alot of shares have now been purchased at .04 and above. The noose just got a bit tighter on the market makers today if you ask me. jmho
Who knows. This stock seems to just run upwards on its own when it does move up.
News really does not move it that much. Lots of potential at these prices I would say.
I think if the 504 is done selling this has a chance to move upwards.
Anything in the .005 to .006 is very possible. Above that I believe its going to take nice revenue numbers. I just dont think they are there yet.
I think Eric the Great shot the share price in the foot letting it drop this low.
Its going to be a tough rode back to over .01 if you ask me.glta
the reality is LKEN can clear up many issues that this board is discussing for the last month. They have chose the route of Gagging the TA and giving fluff.
I M not sure what to believe on this crap shoot anymore.
Its too bad that Lenny Greene has not stepped up to the plate on this.
Where is the share holder update on the Structure. Thats my biggest issue.
the rite aide deal would be nice but that does not really bother me if they land that or not.
the float is a huge issue and restricted hitting the float.
It does seem that the selling has dried up for the most part. Overall there is just not enough buyers to keep the share price moving upwards.
Anything positive and this will run. JMHO
Simply freaking amazing as to what the market makers can do to a rally.
This makes absolutely no sense to tank this right now. they could have ran this to .10 before the dump.
I guess it just defies logic. I just dont get it.
IT JUST HAS TO BE MARKET MAKERS LOADING THE BOAT. THATS THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES SENSE. OTHERWISE I AM A BIGGER IDIOT THEN EVEN I THINK AND THATS HUGE!!!!LMAO
Damn Vert moved all the way to .14. It would be nice to hit that level. wow.
Lmao. just as I state that guess whos back. LOL
You might have just saw a few buyers from the finance seminar. those were two of the bigger buys I have seen for awhile. I realize there were not huge but for TIVU they were pretty big. JMHO
And to think who was the market maker at the ask as well. GOOD OLE VERT. NICE BUYS SAME STORY. SHARE PRICE GOES NOWHERE!!!!!
I agree. I was just making a point that I scrubbed my butt off and after winning colours I tried some soft scrub with clorox and and did not do much better but it did finally come off about 90%.
hey just saw a news blip on 7-11 stores. They now have over 40000 stores. Eric I got an Idea for your 4 oz bottles. LOL
did not work for me on porcelain on my kitchen sink. thats all I can say. used a scrub brush as well with it. let it sit for about 15 minutes and it basically did nothing.
It does not bother me. Everyone is trying to make this Product be the cureall for everything. Its not. It has 1000 of uses yes but just like the stain Devil. They target 9 different stain removal products vs wnbd. I M sure their targeted products works better the winning colours. I will take my chances with winning colours on most cloth stains and I like I use it mostly as a hand cleaner.
AS A HAND CLEANER ITS TOP NOTCH. I USE VERY LITTLE AND RUB MY HAND TOGETHER AND WORK IT IN THEN HIT IT WITH A TINY BIT OF WATER AND RUB MY HANDS TOGETHER ONCE AGAIN. EVERYONE KNOWS HOW TO CLEAN THEIR HANDS. ANYWAY THEN RINSE AND IT REMOVES GREASE AND GRIME VERY WELL
Well the crazy thing about this stock and it happened again recently. On the way up with nice buying at the ask this stock hit .0012 and was moving nicely upwards.
Then like always. Bamn the bid ask just drops a couple ticks like it did there. actually I think it went to a bid of .0008 x .001 for awhile.
it seems this stock does it all the time. I remember the first time it hit .0018 on a nice volume buying day.
I think it dropped down to .0012 on the bid and .0013 to the ask on almost no volume.
I just wonder how on earth with all the buying can market makers just take it where ever they want. Its truely amazing how everything goes against the every day trader in these markets.
All one can do down here is try and be on the Market makers side because Business Plans mean Nothing and everything is stacked against the everyday trader. JMHO of course but I think we all have to admit. AN EVERYDAY TRADER IS SIMPLY ON HIS OWN DOWN HERE.
I LOVE YOU TOO. by the way winning Colours does not work on rust.
tried it this morning on my sink. set a can in the sink when it was wet and winning colours did not touch it.
Just for the record. ERIC IS GREAT AND HE IS A GREAT HITTER. LOL
BY the way you sound like a shareholder whos avg is at .0025.
NICE BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS is the first time I ever heard of anything having to do With Houston. Is that where steve is at or whats the association with Houston.
I realize the east coast but was mostly thinkING the Boston area or Mass. in general and obviously Omaha.
On another note the Omaha Double tree is now still 3-5 weeks out.
K, I get delays but as positive as things are with TIVU and excited as everyone is on this board things are beginning to get stretched out months longer then many have discussed on this board.
At one time I felt that the Double tree would be completed by 3-1-2011 and now it appears it wont be completed til mid april.
Any clarification of the convertibles would be nice because it sure appears they are the in the way of any real rally. I would love for Tivu to begin some sort of upward trend as compared to the decline we have been seeing.
Lots of good news out there and remaining positive but at sometime we shareholders need to have some sort of confirmation as to what is really happening here.
Still very positive and great work on TIVU but the reality is this is still a stinky pinky. It sure would be nice to have a letter to the shareholders outlining what truely is going on along with financing when completed and a share structure update.
Gee am I asking for alot huh. lol. GO TIVU!!!!!
Dirty I M glad you have so much faith in ERIC THE GREAT!!!
THATS TRUELY AWESOME but one simply has to look at what has happend in the last 13 months. All the truely pending whats suppose to be great news and you would thing there would be buying interest but what do you have here. JUST MORE EROSION OF THE SHARE PRICE.
I dont think Eric is a crook but it does not take a rocket scientist to realize that if Eric does not hit a home run very very soon and begin to bring in a huge increase in revenues this stock is going to go to the triples.
I think 2010 was very key to keeping shareholders and Eric has done a Terrible job of that. I truely believe that Eric attitude towards the trader has caused alot of the erosion of the share price.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER ERIC HAS NOTHING TO LOOSE AND HE IS THE BIG WINNER. HE HAS A HUGE SALARY AND HE CAN GIVE HIMSELF SHARES ANYTIME HE WANTS. HE IS IN CONTROL OF THE COMPANY. I BELIEVE MANY SHAREHOLDERS FEEL HE HAS TURNED HIS BACK ON THEM. THE WILD CARD IS HE KNOWS ONCE THE SHARE STRUCTURE IS MAXED HE CAN EITEHR INCREASE THE AUTHORIZED OR REVERSE SPLIT.
TO SAY ERIC THE GREAT IS NOT ARROGANT AND OR HAVE TUNNEL VISION WELL WHO KNOWS. What appears to be very apparant is HE IS THE BIG WINNER. ANYONE HOLDING SHARES ABOVE .003 RIGHT NOW MIGHT BE IN TROUBLE. I M JUST NOT SURE ERIC CARES. THE LACK OF BUYERS FOR THE LAST YEAR IS WHY THE SHARE PRICE HAS ERODED SO BADLY.
PAT ERIC ALL YOU WANT BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THATS ALL ON HIM.
ERIC SEEMS VERY RESISTANT TO CHANGING HIS WAYS. MY GUESS HE IS BANKING ON HITTING A COUPLE HOME RUNS.
I think about 300 present share holders are hoping his batting avg goes way up. I JUST DONT THINK HE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THE SHARE PRICE BEING AT THESE LEVELS BUT I DO THINK ITS NOT GOOD FOR ANYONE. NOT EVEN ERIC THE GREAT. HE HAS NOT PROBLEM CASHING HIS CHECKS I M SURE. JMHO
you know as a matter of fact based on last weekends blog I believe Eric feels he is doing a super Job and he is probably thinking that if one NA hits he will give himself a hefty pay raise.
Thats the arrogance I M talking about. Maybe if he felt the pain that his shareholders are feeling he might have a different outlook. I almost felt that Eric and entered in to a New Era of stinky pinky trading. ERIC LEHNER MIGHT HAVE INITIATED THE FIRST BLOG AND DUMP. ITS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. HE DOES NEED TO CASH HIS 10K COME TUESDAY. THATS ALOT OF SHARES AT .0025
4 MILLION PLUS BENEFITS PLUS EXPENSE ALL GO TO YOUR LEADER.
I have to disagree on the the point of the share price as of right now.
504 is Eric's key to success. At .01 vs .0025 thats 4 times the shares needed to survive.
I M not sure Eric the great has a grasp on this but I do think he would prefer the share price to be .01 and not .0025. The reality is wnbd is a much stronger company at .01 then it is at .0025.
THATS JUST COMMON SENSE. ERIC HAS TO JUSTIFY WNBD EXISTANCE AND I THINK its easier to do that at .01 then .0025 as well.
The more shares diluted the harder it is for everyone. WELL BESIDES ERIC AND WE KNOW WHAT THAT WILD CARD IS. I dont see that coming into play for a couple years and if that does happen ERic Just created a bunch of enemies. JMHO but The share price at .0025 helps no one and no NOT EVEN ERIC THE GREAT!!
yes that was the earth shattering news. Not sure if we should bash vr4_rider. he sent it to me in a private message as well. I just deleted it but it does show up in the ihub message list but its blank under his screen name. I think the number is let me check. #21887 it was sent to me shortly after the close of the trading day.
I really dont know what to think about LKEN anymore. I do know that if the Rite Aide deal was imminent I would think more folks would know about it.
I guess the Jury is still out on this and the rite aide deal. What I do know is that since the new IR firm has been on board that the share price has callasped.
I a good note we Know that Heartland America is selling the kits and it just recently recieved a 5000 item order. Thats nothing to sneeze at.
On a bad Note many were told my BETSY per this message board that the share structure news was imminent and its been about a month since that nonevent has not happened.
If LKEN has to dilute I get that but something sure is amiss here. Lenny Greene sure could clear the air on this one but for some reason Silence is his Choice outside of Fluff PR's
Makes one wonder just what is happening here. Everyone says call the TA and no one has posted numbers from there in awhile.
I still dont believe the latest TA numbers are correct. Again Lenny Greene could clear the air but has remained SILENT!!!!!
If you had something you would be dumping big time and not saying a word unless you have already dumped.
I mean what could it be. No rite aide deal. The restricted got dumped.
The float is at or near 5 billion.
what gives, Many of us already expect the worst anyway. Why do you think it dropped so damn much.
Why even hint at if if you think or know of bad news and still have shares.
Just mentioning it now only translates to speculation and negativity so you already shot yourself in the foot to even mention it.
I was wondering the same thing but i did find that stain devil has 9 different formulations depending on what stain your trying to remove.
Interesting to say the least. Kind of interesting Eric points this out today.
Not sure If I really get the point of the blog either other then to say what we already know.
Never heard of Stain Devil before but at the same time I m not sure this is a fair comparison.
I get 9 stain formulas vs just one Winning Colours, 4oz vs .17 oz
Price is fairly comparable. INTERESTING.
Stain Devils appears to be MFG in new Jersey. Wonder if that much be a direct competator for wnbd and winning colours.
I dont think Reverse Split would happen this year. He still has like 3 billion shares to dump before that.
I dont think he is that crooked. Like I have said before there are alot of things I dont like about the guy but I dont think he is a crook.
Micro manager maybe, Over paid for sure, have some serious tunnel vision well that goes with the micro manager thing.
I do believe the Duane Reade deal is huge, I just think most traders have been so beat up on this stock and I still believe that 95% of us are in the red and have been holding for a long time.
JMHO on that.
Great products do not equate to a great company. Eric has some time but he does need to land some Accounts and get this moving.
I have to believe he does not like the share price at .0025. I think that might have gotten away from him as well. He stated in the last weekend blog that he had not 504'ed for a few months. That does not mean that 504 are not hitting the bid.
I kind of wonder if he might have talked to them when he was down in Georgia to say hey alot of good things are happening. Why dont you hold for awhile and you will get more cash. Just a hunch on that.
Still the botton line Eric the Great is the big winner. If you would give me his month salary (10k) right now and tell me I could never purchase another share of wnbd stock. I would take my small loss and never look back.
Still hoping for the best but I think his blog this weekend said alot of things. I think good things are coming and I think he is beginning to actually promote the stock as well as the products for once. Again just my opinion.
The reality is if he can close on some of these deals and wnbd generates a couple million in revenues this year we all will have to take our hats off to the guy. OF COURSE THATS A BIG IF BUT WE ALL HAVE GAMBLED ON IT. SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In my opinion I want WALGREENS. I honestly think the Walgreens would be bigger the Lowes and Home Depot combines if markets right.
JMHo of course.
Dont get me wrong I want them all, Even Walmart would be nice in news alone.
Oh and lets not forget about Menards.
I wish people would realize also that wnbd is going nowhere but that does not mean the first round of shareholders wont be sacrificed for the benefit of shareholders if you know what I mean.
Eric is the big winner thats why he does not care. He has the wild card. He has roughly 3 billion shares to dilute. He makes 120 grand a year plus.
he is on top of the world and besides his beloved IHUB team he does not like shareholders or I should say traders.
He obviously has proved that point. JMHO Eric has a huge amount of Damage Control to do with Share Holders. I just dont think he cares about them. Thats the sad Part.
AGAIN WNBD WILL SURVIVE NICELY. SHAREHOLDERS AS OF TODAY MIGHT BE THE ONES SACRAFICED FOR THE BENEFIT OF WNBD LONG TERM.
IT HAPPENS FOLKS. ALMOST EVERY DAY DOWN HERE. TRUST ME ERIC THE GREAT IS FULLY AWARE OF THAT WILD CARD. AND HE HAS IT.
I BET HE GIVES HIMSELF A PAY RAISE SHORTLY. LOL
I think we all knew the Duane Reade news was priced the present current fair value of the share price.
I was hoping for National Account news. I just hope this is not another prime example of ERic the Greats TUNNEL VISION.
Oh well The Duane Reade news is very good. At least thats something positive. Albeit it basically old news except for exact dates.
Oh and sample locations were given as well.
I sure hope 4th numbers are very very good. I sure would like to see it at least 200k or better. That would be a shot in the arm for sure.
For what its worth bid support at .0024 is 6 deep. I would be nice now if .0024 was the bottom and this can finally begin to move up.
Just trying to remain positive as positive can be.
I believe we will have to wait on financing news before Marriott news. Just a gut feeling.
I think Prakash has had it with the convertables right now.
I just have a feeling he is not happy with the share price either and the share Structure is getting diluted more then he would like as well.
Anyway lets see what the next few weeks has in store. Doubletree completion might be announced as well.
Still curious about all the DEc. 2010 installs that was mentioned in the Jan PR. Not sure what that was all about.
Does TIVU have a few small installs know one knows about?
well a month ago Ole Betsy Lenny's wife said that the share structure numbers were forth coming.
the the beloved IR firm kept saying substancial news was on its way.
Lots of fluff thus far but nothing really substancial.
the share structure news would be huge good or bad. The rite aide deal seems to be a secret thus far.
I think alot of folks have simply given up on this one right now.
Of course We all loved the Dividend news that set the share price to about at 60% drop so here we are.
Lenny The ink Man has not spoken but we shareholders have been told all is rosey!!!!!!
At least the sale volume has dried up. I think this can rally now but it just seem some sort of postive news and right now LKEN is just giving fluff. JMHO
wow popn is looking good today. buys outnumbering sales 14000000 to 0.
now tell me thats not some buying power after about 350 million sells this week to about 2 million buys all week long. LOL
I have no problem admitting that if this stock gets about .10 I will have my finger on the sell button.
That does not mean I wont be watching it like a hawk. I have learned that with these stinky pinkies that when you can take profits do so. HOld on forever will result in lost money about 99% of the time.
Again thats a big if at .10 and that does not mean I will sell at that level but it also means I feel strongly that .10 will be hit.
I hope this rallies to .20 then I will dump everything I have.
cant argue with a 4 bagger about about 15 grand in profit.
But again with that being said I still think long term this has a chance to be big. Really Big. flipping along the way I dont feel is a bad thing. as a matter of fact it can be a good thing.
By the way you have to be lucky too. I will take all the good luck I can get. I Have plenty of bad luck.
I know all the Warren Buffetts out there will bash that but I guess I M just not the seasoned trader you Buffett's are. LOL
Well the reality with wnbd is that at .0025 I would say its a good entry. Anyone with an avg at or near .0025 -.003 I m sure will do very good. Maybe even double your money.
Outside the .005 range I think that will be tough sledding.
Finally it appears Eric has a Investor Relations company. He never announced it but it appears based on the link in the PR there is one there.
I would have thought that type of coverage would have been mandatory for any National Account wanting to place wnbd's products on its shelf.
I purchased again on tuesday after the sucker blog over the weekend.
My opinion, ERIC NOW HAS TO HIT HOME RUNS FOR THIS STOCK TO GET BACK ABOVE .01 AGAIN. I just hope he does.
really thought this week would have been better. I feel a bit duped.
Everyone who knows about wnbd and its products already knows about Duane Reade for months now. At least its on a NATIONAL LEVEL NOW.
AGAIN AT LEAST THATS SOMETHING.
I JUST HOPE THE NATIONAL SENTIMENT CAN CHANGE BECAUSE THIS STOCK IS KNOWN TO BE A DILUTED PIG. JUST MENTION IT ON SOME OF THE CHAT BOARDS. THATS THE SAD REALITY.