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I never thought I would say this but I do actually agree on the P2D timing.
If you look purely at the business fundamentals chances are little this company will be worth 1$ per share by the end of the year.
But it's emotion that's driving the trade now. People are getting to like this company and want to be part of it when the magic happens. As more and more people are holding on to their stake, it will not take an awful lot more of interest to drive this stock to the dollar level. This could actually happen pretty fast.
I'm just curious how the management will react cause the valuation we are actually going for now, is at this stage way beyond their own business targets.
Some remarks here are so ridiculously funny - like kids enjoying their first trip to disneyland - but it's the performance of both NRTI and TRTC that makes me smile most.
The rapid rise, without any figures yet, doesn't make much sense to me, but it could bring an additional advantage. If it makes the holders of convertible shares convert sooner than planned, there is less intrest to be paid, which means less dilution in the end and another advantage for those planning to hold.
I don't really get the 1 to 5 prediction as both companies have to find their own dynamics yet.
Meanwhile enjoy the ride guys
At least it's funny (;
And the fundamentals will follow soon enough imo
Martha won't buy shares lol. She is the only one in the whole Inergetics story who can already be sure that she will be making lots of money this year.
Even our beloved CEO can't compete with her. He earned 4 times total turnover in 2012 (http://www1.salary.com/Michael-C-James-Salary-Bonus-Stock-Options-for-INERGETICS-INC.html) but his reward - and I'm not suggesting that he does not deserve it - will only be a fraction of total turnover this year.
Looks like Inergetics is becoming a decent company after all(;
This kind of news once again proves the opportunity is there. But IMO to get this stock really going, we need to see the new Inergetics in figures. As soon as margins and profits are there, we'll get at another level really fast
I'm prepared to sell at 0.30 (;
I agree with the growing pains. As soon as figures show that this company has been able to add more sales to the deferred revenue in Q4, people can start doing some proper DD.
0.25 seems a reasonable price target to me at the moment, but we need figures to give this some substance
If deferred revenue hasn't increased much, we're fµç*ed
What a lousy stock (;
It's about time we get some figures
Martha Stewart promoting Martha Stewart Essentials on her facebook again, for over 1M followers
"Are you or someone you know engaged? Get wedding-ready with a new whole food-based supplement designed to help you look your best: Hair, Skin & Nails from Martha Stewart Essentials. These vitamins nourish, strengthen, and protect the delicate tissue that keeps your looking radiant. Now, we're giving one lucky bride the chance to win a day of beauty at the Martha Stewart Living offices!"
And Christa Alves really rocks at promoting Bikini Ready. It's a shame her story isn't well presented on the blog on the Bikini Ready website, cause it's really persuading.
But MSE is - in my opinion - the product to focus on. The Martha Stewart brand does give the products a competitive advantage in this very crowded market. Just hope there's enough margin left for Inergetics to make it profitable
Thanks a lot for posing the question. The answer is really reassuring. Good luck all. Enjoy the ride
Okay. There is no point in having these arguments over and over again. I will submissively step down from this discussion and no longer ruin your joyful party.
I'm not gonna sell my shares though. In a few weeks time - at 0.12 - I might even add a few 100K.
Let me try to explain, and please don't always take every variant opinion as a personal attack cause it's not meant that way.
To attract attention from the Street and really get this stock going, this company needs a better balance sheet.
Those recent deals, fabulous as they are, don't add anything to the balance sheet.
That leaves 2 ways to improve the balance sheet
- through operational profit
- through raising capital.
That's why the question about the timeframe is so important. And of course the CEO can't predict exactly how much products will be sold. But giving a timeframe for breaking even, is all about strategic choice. Are they planning to invest as much as they can in marketing and expansion? Or are they planning to take a slower pace and book some profits to improve the balance sheet? It's a perfect sensible question. It's just part of the business plan.
And the thing is, whether you like it or not, if they don't do it through booking profits, they'll have to improve the balance sheet through raising capital.
So it's not about how much money will be coming in. That would be a silly question indeed. It's about what they plan to do with it.
And yes, I'm long NRTI. Definately for 6 more months. Probably for 6 more years. It depends on the answer to this one, single question.
Thanks. I think we're all very keen on getting an update
Thanks for explaining. It's interesting read for me. I'm just no trader so I trust you completely on this one
CN shoots me when i say this, but you're right: the biggest threat for us at this point is that we can't be sure about the management's intention. Soon we'll find out if they have been selling stock
I agree. In a few months we will not be staring at a .003 change anymore (;
That's true but works in the other way as well. I mean, as soon as a few people walk in who really want to buy, this tiny losses are easily erased
Crookedneck, can i specify that I would like to ask about profit, not about cash flow. I'm not asking for an exact date, but I think it's important to ask a timeframe. Is it 3 months, 1 year, 3 years. I agree that Mr James would not let him get pinned on a specific date, but I'm sure he has a timeframe in mind and when you ask and force yourself to not give the answer yourself, he will definately give an answer that might be of great value to us all.
I'm glad you put this to rest because while you were rattling on, the share price dropped 20% (;
Will you consider asking my question on friday
Let's hope Martha is not annoyed by this MJ deal and mothers will still be willing to feed their daughters bikini ready products from this MJ company (;
I don't think we should fight, CN, cause we're both on the same side. We both see a huge potential in this company, we both hold a substantial amount of shares and we're both prepared to hold these for the long run.
The only difference we have, as far as I can see, is that you focus more on the stock price while I focus more on the return this company can generate.
What I mean is this: if you own 300K shares, you actually own 0.5% of this company. It means that when this company ever makes 1 million $ in profits, there is $5000 for you. If they get to 10 million in profits, there is $50,000 for you. Every year. Regardless of stock price.
That is, in my opinion, the real potential in this stock, given the cheap price at which we have been able to purchase it.
The only thing that I've been trying to say is that you can't do any DD yet in this regard as we don't have any figures yet about revenue, gross margin, marketing cost, royalty cost etc.
The one thing we can argue about, and I'm prepared to this if we ever meet and have a cool beer or some other nutritional supplement together, is about what is needed when you only want to focus on stock price and when you want this price to reach a dollar by the end of the year. In my opinion, but I have to admit I'm pretty old-school, the dollar mark is only reachable once this company is proven to be profitable, and shows it can erase its present negative net value through profits. To be valued at 60M or 80M I think this company first of all needs a positive bottom line.
We can disagree on this one, and I do respect each other opinion. For me it just doesn't matter as I don't care about the stock price. I'm focused on possible returns. Maybe I can inspire you to do the same one day (;
Can I end my attempt to be constructive with a suggestion for a question for your interview on friday with the CEO. When does he think this company will start showing profits? Not revenue, not products on the shelves, not new deals, just plain profits.
okay, cool, thanks a lot
Something completely different: what do you guys think of the bikini ready logo. For me, from a European perspective, it doesn't look great, but maybe it does stand out somehow in the American market. I just can't judge that.
I think that kind of aspects are more important now than some green leaf deal that attracts some stock adventurers for a couple of days.
I agree with you bcpark, with the difference that i'm holding 206K shares so I do believe the fundamentals will get right. But I would never applaud this management, nor go too enthusiastic before I see some statement with a bottom line written in black ink. This company is in a very competitive market. Making deals and bringing products to market is the easy part, becoming profitable is very tough but it's what we need to see this stock grow. The competences needed now are marketing and Retail.
Well, I did open the window yesterday, playing "we are the champions" on maximum volume, so at least Brussels already knows something is going on (;
On a more serious note: for me, as an investor, the question remains to what extent this company will be capable of turning these opportunities in a profitable business. This demands a different set of skills than what the new company has been showing so far. Don't get me wrong, I admire the work that has been done and i do believe this is gonna work. But the real answer, my friends, is still blowing in the wind.
At least for another ten days, probably for another quarter
What a beautiful day. Sun is shining here in Brussels and the NRTI rollercoaster is in position for another joyful ride. I agree, Jasper, on the profitability. It's key to sustainable growth. In a few weeks we'll know more. Hold on tight, longs, and enjoy the ride!
Anastasia Ashley is doing a great job promoting Bikini Ready on her facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/AnastasiaAshleyofficial
and the Bikini Ready fanpage
https://www.facebook.com/BikiniReadyLifestyle
If all her fans just try it once, it's another million turnover (;
Thanks for your great overview CN
One thing I don't get is why the deferred revenu of 3rd quarter would only show up as revenu in 1st qtr of 2014 and not already in 4th qtr '13. This shipment should imo be sold by now. After all, the company is selling a promise in a bottle. If people don't buy it now, I don't think they ever will.
I also find it difficult to treat the 3 million from the tax program as revenue. It's great working capital - and okay, in the statement it's revenue - but if this 3 million is relevant in making 1Q14 their best qtr ever, I will be very disappointed.
Don't get me wrong, I'm longer than I've ever been.
And more nervous than ever as well, i guess.
Cause there is no denying: the Martha Stewart deal is the thing that should get this company on track. And 4th quarter should already show if people are buying the brand or not.
In my opinion, for an investor it would make even less sense to sell now because we all know there is enough money on the table for now. Well at least the opportunity at this moment is far greater than the risk.
It has to be the company.
I'm not saying they wanna raise money by doing this. Maybe they want to give some friends, family and fools (that includes me) a chance to join the ride. Or maybe they are just a bunch of wild adventurers after all (;
I've been thinking the same - it has to be the company who is selling. When you look in real-time at the game that's being played with the bidding and the volumes, it's just not the way that an investor would sell. The company seems to follow the demand very closely and try to keep interest going by dropping some shares now and then.
I can only hope they know by now that we will all be very happy soon. Otherwise it's not the kind of game you play as a company with people who put their trust and money in you.
I'm still confused as wether this management is close to some great rusults or just a bunch of mad adventurers. If this Martha Stewart deal does not bring this company to profit soon, it's game over.
Hi all
Been reading lots of great insight here for a couple of days, so I tought I might as well have a go (;
There has been much talk here about Inergetics hiring this IR firm.
The good news, in my opinion, is not that they have hired a renowned IR firm.
That in itself is not an accomplishment. It's just be willing to pay the bill.
The focus now should be on becoming profitable.
There is no point in pimping the stock price when the company is not yet profitable.
The good news, as I see it, is that by hiring a renowned IR firm, they maybe have proven now that they have already become profitable. Can't wait to see the next statement.