Crookedneck, can i specify that I would like to ask about profit, not about cash flow. I'm not asking for an exact date, but I think it's important to ask a timeframe. Is it 3 months, 1 year, 3 years. I agree that Mr James would not let him get pinned on a specific date, but I'm sure he has a timeframe in mind and when you ask and force yourself to not give the answer yourself, he will definately give an answer that might be of great value to us all.