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I appriciate the post. Don't see thse type enough and I worry about that. Watching a guy on COvers (a sports chat site) in the investing section :) talk about it and he has been a buyer since 7 plus. Says he just vg. down, but who really knows. It is those type that are actually shorts.
What better way to suk someone in than to make them think you r losing too.
The more I watch MANN fall the more I wait. It means the shorts have a hold of it with support from MM's. Somewhere there are a group of 40 people pocketing huge money driving it down...
They wont stop until the last second and a PR to support it.
I just know what I see watching these stem cell companies play people on HOPE and a dream... They could even show efficacy and PR as such, but will it work in real time, in a real world, etc... Very doubtful and all these companies are operating off the back of the Bush era Stemcell dream and regulated embryo stem cells. THey were found to work, we shut it down and all these companies seen a chance to test SOMETHING as if... yea, it could work...
I wish you luck and everyone on their investments... But i also see into this after watching them all kinda work, a little, and more test to confirm and again, and again... more testing, etc. etc...
I dont own it...
5-Star morningstar rating. Just goes to show that no matter who or what you are, you can buy anything. A great pipe-line, but morningstar knew they were out of cash and needed funding.. Effectiveness ess eesss... money and dilution...
Moving at a snails pace over 15 years. A Mice attack... HOw does one get a 5-star rating ? Buy it !
I would love to invest in this because it reminds me of so many that have paid there dues... Yet, it could split, BIG doubt on that because of the institutional holdings... Yet, how long til making money... 5 years, 10 ???
real data is fake, that guy is a scam artist... that is all..
Bought More... think about MANNKIND now... Really low, too low...
This whole sector should be watched closely for an entry point. Natural Gas and Oil from Fuking Fracing (which by the way is ruining the water supply - wont be an issue for 10 years) is costing more to produce than it pays. THey are also using 7 times the amount of water to ratio of gas/oil it brings up.
You would think this country would see how obtuse it is to produce oil and gas this way. For all the wrong reason we are allowing T boone pickens and all the others do whatever they want under the earth. Really pathetic to do this for a few years of cheap car gas.
In the end, some rich guy will be even richer, the insurance companies covering them will be in court fighting against the EPA and all the water ruined, but the hospital and doctors will benefit from all the cancer patients... SO I guess it equals out for the rich...
SOoner or later coal comes back... When it does, be ready... A company like Walter energy or any of them will be a wonderful investment. Walters claim bankrupt... Ruins the stock and they renegotiate the terms of their loan. THis way, it wipes out stock in mutual funds and retail investors, but the big guy still gets paid. They issue NEW STOK and you buy in...
More... More again... Me... and Me too...
Back in at 11.50..Couldn't wait any longer for fear of another increase. Who know what they are going to say on the 15th. Can't be bad and they may just market the hell out of this... I believe they have already added all the staff to sell.
The fact they r holding an investor conf. tells me they plan on releasing info of what their plans are. Once everyone hears it, off to 13 -15 and little chance of a pull back. not too many shorted it, no big worry there. Even on a crop to 10 it is a safe bet long term.
No buying !!! Wow.. I feel bad for everyone including myself, bad move listening to Gil... So many really believed this guy and thought he was taking Multistem (a product they said worked)into the market.
Institutional buyers are not touching this at all and on or by Nov. 15th we will see just how far they have unloaded. I believe NOW that they drove it up to $1.90 dumping as it went up.
Showing 34% institutes, probably more like 20 now and most of that is because they did not want to lose 50% like so many retail investors.
The big problem is testing the same product over and over again. THe model of multistem as if it were already proven is failed. Gil was just telling everyone at MESA how they r continuing to produce it, yet, still no proof on a human response... I see Lawsuits coming as the business, medical model he is trying is far backwards then originally thought...
SA article, Meeting on the Mesa, and still a drop in price. Amazingly it can't even hold the floor price and no buying going on at all.
This one will turn out to be my only mistake and not a costly one, thank god.... Imagine if you will buying this at 4 when they were touting it so highly. Then imagine what happens if the stroke fails ? The AMI study is only going to start soon. That means you get results on stroke in February (by their claim), probably May. The AMI wont be back for over a year. That means that 5 mangement people get millions a year waiting on results.
GVHD is a waste of time and effort because many are already doing it. Too much compitition... The Local Cleveland people are not supporting it. Gil has been exposed... Look at what KITE is doing in engineering cells and these guys think they can pull cells from bone marrow and heal a stroke victim ?
Going to tell you they are soon to be in big trouble finanically... THey wouldn't be if they were not paying each other so much money...
I hope they lie on the stroke data... First so people can recoup their money, then second so they get busted... This BS has gone on long enough... NBS Autolou have a way better chance then this crap...
I think that is why the U of MINN ran from it too.. BS Belgium scientist created worthless data, ATHX scientist copied it, applied to rats and called it worth looking into... Man...
Hope I am wrong for the longs here.. i really do..
A bunch of manipulation going on here. Wonder how high it can go. They have SOMETHING, but when will they make money...
Remove all patents... Divide current income/rev by shares. What do you have ? Considering that half the staff is not needed now... That the Lexinton guys took over DSS and are in the patent business.
Let's face it, that was the driver to what was going to be big business. i am sure they got a little laxed on the current stuff knowing they were all going to be billionaires off of the Bascom and other patents. Not 2 years ago people were discussing if it would reach 7.25 so that the rest of the shares would be doled out...
I am sure they thought it would happen. Can only picture dinner table conversations with the 10 year old... Yep, Daddy has a really big thing going... Companies are stealing his stuff over the internet. We are going to make them pay... Watch, we won't be living like this very long...
Circa 2016 --- Daddy, I am hungry !
Hard to believe this is above a penny knowing it is a fail court case...
Sure this recent sale is for .05 or less. All the people that funded these guys got shares at .05 or less. So, everyone slowly unlads at double to retail suckers. Everyday there is some guy telling some other guy, hey look, ya never know, right... !???
But, ya do now, this is just waiting to fall apart and will be sub penny next year...
Wonder what happened with the new AD agency... The company that was going to push these guys ahead...
At least MARA got into better IP. Had they done that, maybe it could have done better. Wary of outcome now and a delisting..
What to do ? Dump Bascom and his patents off of books, hold onto anything valuable, NOT Agility and as their site shows, just a cover for the play. Wrote off 7M... move on, drop costs of new material, clean up and out management..
Or, sell to a company like MARA to save a few jobs... Maybe they can get 2 a share ?
They could have given this to a company like Green cures, or anyone of the other MJ scams... Or did one themselves, guess they just dont have the energy anymore. They have a daughter that is an Atty. use her for christs sake.. .Do some type of scam, it is in your blood and you have been cheating people for thousands of years. Dont stop now.
The Supreme Court is the rogue one based on Conservatism...But you rich guys can't have your cake and eat it too... So make up your mind... oh, you did... THe super rich have overuled the rich... Damn.. how dos it feel....
I am not ! They have been working on stem cell products for 20 plus years now. Show me one on the market that is making money ?
That works ! Or anything ! That would be 100%..
But i guess we can't include the doctors around the country touting them and actually offiering them to patients in their office. Steenblock, etc...
Or does a phase I trial that shows maybe a difference in AMI with 25 patients and they THINK that one or two patient gain an edge. That they are very very excited about the chance to do further studies. Wall street Journal published an article on it back in July calling them all out, not one responded with their results or had comment (wall street journal) a chance to show what you got... They did have their atty's. write and threaten..
Orisis had what they published as a good study, then sold it off really quick to Meso for chump change, WHY ? Because it didn't make enough of a difference to make any money... And Meso needed something bad to keep them afloat...
A year ago I was all in on Stem cells, I am not dissing because I want too.. I am telling what I read, see, etc... These companies are paying themselves like they have a real chemical headed to the market. They r no where near it, and not one of them want to truth out.. .Create another conference, talk about Japan and euro, create a member group to discuss this and that.. .ALL bs to keep it going..
It is funny how he is passed off on TV as a good go to guy. I don't know if we should all them short buddies. For sure they are funds and their main goal is to make money. They make money by manipulating stock, or just buying at the right time up and down.
It does include Lie's, PR's that r not true, etc. The basic instinct of the human is to trust first. Not until they have lost it all do they question it. My fiance (20 years) believes her broker, 401K, mortgage lender before she listens to me. It is unveleivable. She lost a lot of money in 2007 / 8 and think she will get it back thru her 401K because these past couple months have been good. 2018 it will get cut in half again. Kind of sick of it.
I have learned to read into him and Adam Fraud... It is their job to maniuplate us... They have no stance on AVNR because they missed it. No big deal for the, but certainly they won't say "YES" before they hold it.
I am following baker bros. mostly, but do DD on them of course... I was on this early, just like Concert... I don't think you can miss with that company either. May take time from here and who knows, may drops to 5s or 6s... I will just add slowly...
I hope no one fails ! EVER ! Saying that is taking me way out of context ! I still hold some ATHX and bought more low, so any loss is not nearly as bad and once it hits 1.90 again I am clear of any loss. I now know how to play these.
On NBS, I would never ever hope bad on anyone, that is not me, ever. I do tell the truth and will not be lead into blind excitment on a maybe chance of some cell.
50 different cells, 30 ways to get them into the body divvided by 30 stem cell companies equals lots and lots of trials, maybe's, excitment and a 99% FAILURE RATING. i ALREADY STARTED making money elsewhere. If others can just see what a scam they are, they can too...
So who was ahead of .05, bought a little above it and then dumped at .06 :) THat is a tidy little gain for your bright ones... :)
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What a joke
CEO Schradel said : The price pressure may be from equity issued to pay off debt, which frequently results in this type of downward pressure. We are aggressively investigating ways in which we might be able to address these dramatic short term changes in our market cap. I believe our fundamentals are what will drive long term share price appreciation. Our business continues to grow and margins are improving drastically. We look forward to a record 2014.”
No kidding, as if he didn't already know that the toxic finanicing would create this and the people driving it down have a price to "get their shares" All part of the plan and guys like him are usually getting their share of that through kickback from the equity company paid into a third party account... Nothing new...
Incredible the SEC allows this type of really bad business practice to happen. It is a legal scam diluted with paperwork and pubic relations that make it look real...
Can you imagine some guy walks in there thinking he is working for a great company, so proud, OMG hunny, I met the CEO today he tells his wife... Not know the guy is a complete scam artist working with the boundry of the laws that the SEC allows them too... Hey, file an 8-K.. All is well, just use wording that confuses retail incvestors and make it 100 pages long so no one bothers with it..
Just get your friends friends to invest in it and all is good. Tell your employees that you can pay them in stock and that one day, that .20 stock will be worth 200.00
Just sad... that is all, off box... These type of CEo's ought to be glad I am no where near them..
So the site and company does have a paid pumper in my opinion. Everyone that looks at this company see's the gigantic toxic financing, Huge Revenue that comes only through borrowed money, and passed around through third parties...
This one is not alone. There are many companies that do this same exact thing. performance bonuses on made up REV.. .great pay ! So what if you grow a company 10 fold every quarter if your using diluted stock and toxic financing to do it. In the end they all turn out the same...
Another great stock no one is looking at...
You know there will be an investigation and the company will get in trouble over that knucklehead..
There are no experts on IHUB that post what they know. THey lie considering everyone here a gateway to their funds.
10 may still come, no one in the real world expected this to hold 11. 2 - 5% hold their value or increase of 80% off of a phase II trial. Did you expect it too ?
I sold at 11.28 and can just buy back, hoping for lower, can't wait too long as this and concert are going to make a lot of money off of agitation in ALZ...
I consider Concert a steal at these prices and seen some really smart people in the medical community talking about their process... Now that celegene, Avinir and Jazz Pharma are teaming up. The sky is the limit and we can look for other agreement in the DCE Platform. It will make many drugs last longer. That is great, not because it will help patients in the real world because pharma's dont really want to do that...
They want to make money. If I can give a patient one pill a day of "whatever" I can charge more per pill and the costs to mfg are much less...
http://concertpharma.com/research/index.html
I really look for Concert / Avinir to be 100B market cap companies in 10 years, maybe half that in 5. Jazz is already a 9B. Their PPS scares people and they need to do a split, really bad.
Does the lawsuit go with the stock ? If per say, after 9 years of nothing, this guy decides he wants to sell off the listing. Can he dump it off ?
I heard the owner just got out of Rehab,, he is feeling his OATS and said "If I can get just one hit off of my pipe things will be great".... Just one hit is all he needs..
Classic Penny pumper stock. THey really dont have anything going on, the company is doing nothing. Looks like the pumpers are running out of stocks to beat up..
LOL. That is backwards, but nice try. They got a loan NOW because they know it will fall. They create a committee because they know it will fall. All ploys to keep people alive and think MAYBEEEEE !! it will do good, and if not on this, well look at all the stuff they are doing.
When, really, they got the loan because people would freak out if they got it afterwards.
Like I wrote, they wouldn't need a loan if the news was good. THey could just sell 2M shares which is a 5% dilution (nothing) and get the money free. Would you borrow 15,000.00 today if you knew that in a week or two you could sell some prize winning puppies your dog is having ? No...
Congrats to everyone here. Not an owner, still thinking about it. I usually use a basic check first. If I go to Nasdaqs page, do they show rev. for you ? Yes to here after 0's in 2012 n 13. More impressive is the quarterly...
I still think anything Internet is a waste... we'll see what happens and looking for volume, not pumped price.
Ihub chart colors on the volume. Red, green, blue.. Did anyone ever come up with the correct answer as to what each represents...
Sometimes you see companies that have all green... Just strange...
Start a company, borrow as much money as needed to pay everyone involved very very well. Pay 50% interest, sell shares on a daily basis, pretend you building a gigantic business with PR's that always show increased revenue.
All the time go deeper into debt, but always remeber to pay yourself well... Try to convinve people, shareholders, etc. that you are doing the right thing.
The SEC needs to create a "good practices claus" If you continually do "XY or Z" you r suspended..
Holding Up... Gonna have to dip in a little and hope for a drop...
This is a long holding...
LMAO.... You have to inc the fake checks, 64K, etc....
Suprised...