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Sentinel...
I tought you said Digital Way has already picked up 0-1000...
So, you want to modify your comment that you are waiting for them to "RUN WITH IT", right?...
Regards...Gilgamash...
OZ...Chessplayer...
I agree with OZ. I would rather hug TORF than austonia. Come to think of it, I take that back. I would rather hug my dog than either of those two...Lol...
Regards...Gilgamash...
timf...
First the "nag" was, "Edig has not produced a product". Now the "nag" is that "Edig has not produced an OEM". Next the "nag" will be "Edig did not give me the $500 pps which I expected when I bought in?"...
It is a matter of perspective. You will sleep better, if you only admit to the fact that there is progress within a realistic time frame, whence all the factors are considered...
Regards...Gilgamash...
BMPSKR...SORRY, IT WAS AN ACCIDENTAL TOUCH OF A KEY. READ THE POST AS COMPLETED...
Regards...Gilgamash...
Chessplayer...Well said...
"By the way, Bashers don't waste their times with worthless companies."...
Creative and all those other companies which provide the last chance employment opportunity for the the bashers populating these public boards, have lost millions over the past three years trying to put out an MP3 player that is half way decent to be accepted by the market place.
They are still a flop and have to retain services of the bashers who set themselves up as expert reviewers, and claim to have directed 5 people toward their products...Really pathetic, wouldn't you say?...
Furthermore, as you aptly observe, 0-1000's significance at this point in time is, that it is a product produced by a small technology company which is a symphony of function, and form, and beauty...
Comparing the 0-1000 with Creative's Zen, and Evolution's APD-15 and APD-30 is like comparing a FERRARI with a Ford. Sure the Ferrari is bigger and costs more, but boy IS IT a work of art?...
Understanding this achievement by EDIG is very important to the next signinficant point you raise, which is that EDIG IS NOT A ONE TRICK PONY, limited to making MP3's alone...
It is a Technology company with some unique "Products" to offer
to OEM'S who are lining up to enter the ever growing markets of digital transmission of data, with empahsis on "Quality" and speed to market...
There is no denial of the "QUALITY" of 0-1000, no matter how many ways the bashers try to criticize the case, or size of the hard drive...
And, as to price, it is well positioned to garner a big chunk of the market. Apple spent over $100 million on producing and marketing its i-pod, and it is $150 dollars more expensive, and no competition for 0-1000...
This point alone, should confirm the ability of little EDIG to deliver "Quality" and "Functionality" in the least expensive manner through utilization of its technology and expertese.
Regards...Gilgamash...
Chessplayer...Well said...
"By the way, Bashers don't waste their times with worthless companies."...
Creative and all those other companies which provide the last chance employment opportunity for the the bashers populating these public boards, have lost millions over the past three years trying to put out an MP3 player that is half way decent to be accepted by the market place.
They are still a flop and have to retain services of the bashers who set themselves as expert reviewers and claim to have directed 5 people toward their products...Really pathetic, wouldn't you say?...
Furthermore, as you aptly observe, 0-1000Comparing the 0-1000 with Creative's Zen, and Evolution's APD-15 and APD-30 is like comparing a FERRARI with a Ford...
Trend...moxa1...emit...DABOSS...gernb1...
SPH a500 was the top of the line cell phone that was demonstrated to me at CES 2003...
Looky here; you can get it with an MP3 player capability?...
What do you think...The "wirless thing"]/b]...Could this be it?...
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/prod/hhcommerce/telecommunications/uproar_features.jsp
Regards...Gilgamash...
DON...
Here is an honest review...
So far, the recording speed is awsome...The whole Don Giovani Opera by Motzart went ZIPPP ( WELL, ALMOST ZIP) AS COMPARED TO
treo 15...
The sound out put is much richer...
The controls are firm and precise. I especially love the roll bar in the middle that controls the volume...
And then, there is the FM radio. Click, and you have access to FM and can pre set 10 stations...
I have not tried VOICE NAV and the RECORD (DICTATION) YET...
Immagine, next CES you will be walking through the HALLS and recording your observations and discussions with various TECH people... No more, let me see?, what the guy at ECLIPSE SAY?...
Let us talk about the important thing for a while...
EDIG is getting a good reputation with this consumer...Walter promised that as soon as he got back from CES, he was taking care of a TREO RECORD problem by posting a newer version of the Music Match...
Sure enough, he had done that, and the problem solved...
Also, the shipping and delivery, very satisfactory gets a B+.
The Odyssey came ahead of when they said it would come, and was delivered soundly packaged and ready to play out of the box...
Who cares about the nag...nag...nag... from this dude astonia, (a self professed expert reviewr.)...
First, anyone who touts their own drums like he does, is suspect of his motives..
Second: His trash about EDIG, spread all over the internet, does not make him the best possible REVIEWR of anything...
Finally, he is seeking self validation on these boards and has no objectivity in the matter...
The market place will decide how good 0-1000 is, and so far the comment from the market is WOW...
You got get one of these...
Regards...Gilgamash...
JUST OPENED THE BOX AND AM CHARGING MY 0-1000...
Initial reaction...Design, and feel of he unit gets an A+...
This baby will be the standard that others will be measured against...
My first feel was like when I bought my NAGAMICHI TAPE DECK many years ago. You can tell this is going to be a "CLASSIC", and shall be sought after for years to come. And when others have come arround that are different and much more in tune with the technological developments of the time, this baby will still be sought after...
Sort of like a 300SL (Gull Wing) Mercedes...
Battery is already "Charged"--Yes that fast and the broohaha about the lethear case is so much non-sense...
Personally, I take that as a positive affirmation of the unit, if a renouned basher like astonia could only focus on the case.
Back to a taking it for a test drive...
Regards...Gilgamash...
Sinkman...
Welcome aboard logical deduction path...
We are in with Samsung in more ways than one. Add to that the "big push" by Samsung of their new cell phones shown at CES 2003, you can't help concluding that something will break soon, and EDIG's place in the new cell phones with audio-vedio
and FM transmission will be announced...
There is NO CONCRETE ANNOUNCEMENTS on the matter as yet, but all indications point to its direction...
Regards...Gilgamash...
arkieboy...
A classic case of "FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ME", wouldn't you say?...
We just have to wait it out till CC and or PRs tell us what they are doing?...
Regards...Gilgamash...
D.inkie...YOU WILL NEVER KNOW UNLESS YOU ASK...
There is much in RP's comments that comes through, even though he is good at his job...
What you and others with your incliniation must accept is that he must be getting sick and tired of it by now...
How many ways can he say, don't call me with specific questions
which puts me in a position of (1) saying something prohibited by NDA's, or, telling you something which would violate the SEC insider information prohibition?...
Why would you expect RP to answer questions like, How many 0-1000 are sold to today?; Have you ordered another batch of 1000?; Is Digital Way selling clones of 1000 in Europe and Asia?; When is Fujitsu selling its Eclisps Commander Advance?.
ENOUGH...lay off the guy...
Regards...Gilgamash...
D.inkie...YOU WILL NEVER KNOW UNLESS YOU ASK...
There is much in RP's comments that comes through, even though he is good at his job...
What you and others with your incliniationmust accept, he is getting sick and tired of it by now...
Hos many ways can he say, don't call me with specific questions
which puts me in a position of (1) saying something prohibited by NDA's, or, telling you something which would violate th SEC insider information prohibition?...
Why would you expect RP to answer questions like, How many 0-1000 are sold to today?; Have you ordered another batch of 1000?; Is Digital Way selling clones of 1000 in Europe and Asia?;
restring...
A very balanced observation...Thank you, and berg too...
We are all "Anxious" to have this thing pop. We have been anxious over three years...
CDR has as much right as anyone to post his "satifaction" or dissatifaction" with the 4 0-1000's he bought for his children, and opine what he thinks the future holds for EDIG.
Jumping all over him, mocking him, demanding he provide "Tablets" of concrete, showing evidence of facts and figures, is another sign of "frustration" of those who have arrogated to themselves the role of incesant "subtle bashing" of pursuing the "minutia" as you aptly observe...
The funny part is, the very act defeates the their desired objective, which I surmise is a rise in the pps...
So, as OZ has repeatedly observed, we have to bear all this, and wait for the "Bottom line" to show movement in well publicized PR's, or letters to shareholders...
Regards...Gilgamash...
sky 56...
Had to do that few months ago, (our third). The best remedy is to get another, but not too soon, give it may be 6 months...
Regards...Gilgamash...
OZ...FRANK...LL...etc...
Overall, TIN is doing a great job in keeping this board focused on EDIG, squashing personal attacks, and permitting certain amount of "subtle" bashing, which is consistent with the purposes of this business,( to create volume in posting.)
Besides, he knows that you guys will call the hand of the likes o austonia, and even make him buy an 0-1000, which is good for EDIG...Lol...
Regards...Gilgamash...
OT: DON...
You need to go skiing...Lol...Lol...
May will snow some more this week end?...
Regards...Gilgamash...
OZ...Trend...
Do you suppose the spike in pps was because of asonia's purchase of 0-1000?...Lol...
Regards...Gilgamash...
SURE LOOKS LIKE IT...
RELEASED FRIDAY 1/31/03; 435 SHIPPED BY MONDAY 2/3/03...
AND TODAY IS THURSADAY 2/06/03, AND SATURDAY WILL BE 2/008/03...Lol...
Regards...Gilgamash...
SGE...Me too...
Ordered Friday night. Order # 14390. Cheepo shipping (ground), got it Wed.
14435 was nothici's number. He ordered it Monday, and got it Wed. (Sent day Air).
It makes more sense that the first two numbers (14) identify the product (0-1000), and do not apply to shipping other products. My TREO 15 and MXP100 had other numbers preceding the last 3 numbers which identify the number shipped.
Thus, by monday, there were at least 435 0-1000's shipped.
In addition to DABOSS'S citing of TREND's report of a conversation with customer service, we have had a report by,(I believe it was attibuted to Lordofmusic), who had called EDIG and was informed the 0-1000 was selling great, and it would be all sold out by this coming Saturday, and that they had ordered some more...
Regards...Gilgamash...
moxa1...Do you have korean translator on your computer?
I have misplaced my Explorer disk...
It would be nice to find out the connection between Esterlab and Digital Way, if any...
Regards...Gilgamash...
OZ...
Speaking of "Bunddling"...
On second thought, you better get a whole bunch of pencils sharpened...
Eclipse Commander Advance out in two or three months, and that baby is nothing but a HUGE "Bunddle"...GRIN...
Regards...Gilgamash...
Chessplayer...sorry, that number should be 14390...
Regards...Gilgamash...
Chessplayer...
My order number was 1390...I got mine already..It is at home, and I will be starting my DD on it tomorrow night...
As was pointed out by DABOSS, the first 1000 are sold out...
Regards...Gilgamash...
sdr...LL may be out jogging...Lol...
Don't worry about LL. He can take care of himself...
I agree though, Tin should 86 those like astonia who are out to trash 0-1000 every which way he can, by posting his dribble on all the boards he can find...
By splicing some pictures together, astonia presents his trash here as "DD?", with its main objective being to deflect attention from the real "Facts", which are that EDIG announced shipping of 0-1000 last Friday and all 1000 have been sold...
I just called home and found out that my 0-1000, which I ordered Frinday night, has already arrived. Nobody is talking about the great service by little old EDIG, because they are busy discussing astonia's "DD"?...Bah Humbug...
Can't wait to get home and do my own DD on the unit...
P.S. TO OZ...
The second batch is already on its way. Crank up the pencil sharpener. Your numbers will be the best answer to the so called DD by astonia...
Regards...Gilgamash...
Tinroad...
When I tried to look at it, a window popped out saying I had to have a chinese character translator installed?...
Do you suppose "Clones" of 0-1000 are starting to show up?
Did Digital Way find an OEM in China to put out this "Clone"?
Competition? May be. A "Clone", just as good an explanation...
Regards...Gilgamash...
50+...NEWe. LONG....THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER...
You are 50+, and I am 70+. We read the same material available to everyone else, yet, when I say ECLIPSE is going to "HUGE" for EDIG, the chorus of Nay Sayers shouts in unison that Fujistu is going to be another "pipe dream" concucted by RP and FF, ignoring all these "FACTS" staring them in the their collective sheepish face...
I am saddened by the fact that excellent DD such as yours is often ignored, because we are barraged by what Zack said, and how it was interpreted by TORF...
I for one, printed your post, after marking it, and will keep it in my ECLIPSE BY FUJITSU TEN file...
Regards...Gilgamash...
jOtteman...
What is you order number, and what day did you order it?...
Regards...Gilgamash...
THANK YOU, Andy Dufresne...
Regards...Gilgamash...
Thanks OZ...
As you know, I am one of your followers...
The post was a mere expression of my frustrations with truth distortion by these people, and was not intended to question
your effort to inject some semblence of reason into discussion.
It irks me to no end, however, when I see posts "legitimizing" the trash purveyed by the likes of ZACK-TF-etc, and their cohorts and fellow travellers, under their multifarious disguized names...
Considering the fact that we are all refugees from RB, leaving it because of the incessant trash posted by "unmentionables" above, I prefer to mostly to shroud them instead of validating their existence by posting their garbage from RB here...
PEACE...and Regards...Gilgamash...
Good morning OZ...
Just curious; why do you guys even bother to discuss this guy's obviously malicious write ups to give validity to them?...
Can't you see what he is doing? By generating comments from respected members of this community concerning his "Numbers", he worms his way in as though he had something relevant to say...
And, he counts on the fact that while responding to his askwed tripe, every person would "play it safe" and down play the actual "Facts" relating to how 0-1000 is doing, lest they be accused of "Hyping". Thus, he achieves his purpose of having
deflected the course of discusion from the recent positive developments to negative fodder for his fellow travellers such as techwasher, etc...
For example, where did you you come up with the number it will take 3.5 months to sell the first 0-1000 batch?. Everything I have read indicates they started "shipping" 0-1000 last week, and they had sold 390 by Saturday, when I ordered mine, and they will be all sold out by this coming Saturday...
That is 1000 0-1000's sold in less than a week and a half, and not 3.5 months. This is happening without any big multi million dollar world wide AD. campaign, and is picking up steam
as we speak...
Can you please redo your numbers on the basis of the above data and then tell us what you get?..
I know you wish us all well, and even though you like to err on the side of being "conservative", I have always respected your balanced projections. But, 3.5 months is 10 times the 1.5
weeks it took to sell the first 0-1000 batch, and that is 1000%
"INFLATION" of the actual numbers. Hardly "Conservative"...
Regards...Gilgamash...
brege...Lol...
I would probably have said the translation would be more like saying, "especially, since it is not particilarly hideous".
The reference is to "The beast" in the previous sentece as to how the 0-1000 "Beast" was going to cut into the Mp3 Market...
Regards...Gilgamash...
LL...Lol...Lol..."His entire life is unfounded"...Lol...
Regards...Gilgamash...
prehistory...VIVA LA FRANCE...
French have a logical mind, they got it figured out right, not ZACK, or whatever his name is...
As they say:"THE SMALL BEAST COULD CUT A COMFORTABLE SHARE WELL ON THIS MARKET, THE MORE SO AS IT IS NOT PARTICULARLY HEDEOUS"...
God, this is coming from FRENCH MAC affectionados. Now we know
0-1000 shall sell great in France at least...GRIN...
Regards...Gilgamash...
MIR...HERE IS A WRITE UP IN FRENCH FOR YOU ON 0-1000...Lol...
Can you translate it. It is from French Macworld...
Regards...Gilgamash...
http://www.macplus.org/magplus/article.php?id_article=2140
CDR...That was a response to REORDER question...
Regards...Gilgamash...
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:36:23 -0800
E-MAIL FROM RP...0-1000'S SALES ARE GREAT...
Regards...Gilgamash...
Thank you for your reply, XXX. We had a great opening weekend in Odyssey 1000 sales. We will be providing further information this quarter on our OEM business, products and developments.
Best regards,
Robert Putnam
Senior Vice President
Better yet: Here is a whole bunch of write ups...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=odyssey+1000&btnG=Google+Sear...
Do you suppose all this will generate some sales?...Lol...
Regards...Gilgamash...
O-1000 is "The Talk of The Town"?...
Read what the reaction is to it...
Regards...Gilgamash...
http://www.dmusic.com/forum/gearup/1555
philo sorry...
It was meant to be funny...A play on words as they related to people living in the BAY AREA. And I live there too...
Regards...Gilgamash...