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That's actually not a bad idea....
To be fair, I'm not getting a lot of info through anymore. Now Nik is dealing with the board through Tom, they are generally not giving us an insight.
However, I think Tom should put that idea forward.
MDFY
There was a mistake and Tom apologised. He reposted the message to take into account your comments.
Furthermore, we're not from Medify. Tom has put a lot of time in for the shareholders. If you don't like it, leave. It sounds like you need to spend a lot of time talking to your lawyers anyway.
So, best of luck with any action you pursue, and thanks for your input. I politely repeat the request, please do not attack Tom, especially for removing a name as you requested.
MDFY, you're so wrong.
And could you please highlight where in your letter you state that this is a private and confidential communication?
Seems you are only happy to attack people when you are anonymous.
Ok, so I've been away for work, and when I got back, I sat out and watched as my presence here seems to anger a couple of people.
But MDFY, attacking Tom has no benefit to this board in a positive or negative sense.
Tom seems to be working very hard to try and service the requests that come from this board, and is doing an excellent job in my opinion.
I think we'd all agree just because you don't like what you are reading doesn't mean you need to shoot the messenger.
Here's a thought.
How about we compile a list of questions weekly, and then either I or Tjak can put them to the company.
We can then directly post the answers onto the board. We'll tell them what we are doing, and maybe that can be a way of getting more info than we get now, and try and move away from some of the frustrations we all suffer.
BV, I guess I owe you a bit of an apology. I got kinda wound up earlier, again a combination of being tired and frustrated. So, take it as you want.
Let's just see if we can combine on the board to do something positive for ourselves.
But hey, it's an idea....
Good luck Lem
Going_long, thanks for your comments. Much appreciated and make a very sensible case.
Fingers crossed for us all
GH
BV
Thanks for the invitation to go private.
But I'm happy discussing things here. Things such as your admittance you hold no shares, your inability to answer a simple question (just in case you missed it - Who did you speak to?) and your desire to move what is obviously a difficult conversation out of public eyes.
What's the matter, don't you like it when people question you? Do you only prefer it when you can shout and rant and make baseless allegations.
And finally, if people do not like the fact that I am sticking up for my (our) investment to one of the worst bashers on this board, then I sincerely and wholeheartedly apologise.
Take care all,
kiss kiss BV
GH
BV,
Why am I concerned if I'm not JB. Because unlike you I have a genuine investment in the company and you're helping to trash it.
That's why.
And just a note, better to let people THINK you are stupid, rather than opening your mouth and proving it.
And yeah, from what I can work out, I think you are at least associated with Trevor, if not the man himself.
Have a nice day.
Don't let the door smack you on the ass as you leave.....
BV...thanks for your post. Intelligent as ever.
Firstly, I'm not JB. Accuse me of what you want. Don't really care. But I'm not. There are many here who are comms with me that know for a fact I'm not JB.
Secondly, Mr-I've-spoken-to-all-sorts-of-lawyers-and-everyone-else-should-too, What is the name of the person you spoke to? Simple question, should be a simple answer.
"My conversation was with an officer who looked over the Financial statements.." Direct quote from your post. Who did you speak to?
Nothing complicated.
Or do you really believe we're daft enough to believe the bull? You are a small RETAIL investor? So you buy and sell? Like a day trader? Like someone who would welcome depressing the share price as it suits them?
And just to be completely accurate, I didn't call you a chump. But if the cap fits.....
Have a nice day Trevor.
Good point. Be interesting to see if they will go down that route. I'll see what we can find out.
I definately understand why there is so much cynicism surrounding the PRs. I for on eam glad that they have stopped pumping them out.
Hopefully we'll see that they do mean business soon, otherwise it will be down to the last one here to turn out the lights.
Hi Bob
I can't explain the discrepancy, I can only tell you what we've been told. There are definately doctors using the product now, although penetration is slower than everyone would like. I don't know where the UK IBM guy got his info, but it's so disparate with what's happening.
From everything I can find out, and my friend can find out and info I've got by calling the states, the picture I get is this. The company started, floundered (which is when most of the longterms got trapped in) and is now recovering. They have had so much historical shit to sort out (left over from TB and co) that they've been wading up to their necks in it.
My opinion is that they tried to manage our expectations by telling us what we wanted to hear. When that didn't work (and in some cases left them in a bigger hole) they then were quite straightforward with us. However, some people didn't like that either so they just shut down comms. I'm with you in hoping they reverse that decision quite soon, as we need to hear more.
Do I think it's got a chance? I think with a 15c211 and a market maker onboard, working for the share price rather than against it then it might recover. Will it pop in 24 hours and we'll all be millionaires? Unlikely.
Can we help it? Yes. Give them constructive feedback (they have acted on input recently), stop crapping from a great height in public (the only way this will really climb is if it attracts new investors, which this place certainly doesn't) and if they sort out these next couple of hurdles maybe they can get to the point of issuing us some dividends.
I think once the 15c is in we really need them to get to the point where they can lay off the 504s. That for sure isn't helping us at all. But you have to admit, they act more like a proper company now than they have ever done before.
I hope it does recover enough for you to get your investment out and enjoy your retirement fella, and maybe, in time, have enough for an extra bottle of scotch. In fact, if they can pull it together, I'll even shout you a bottle of finest single.
For me it's all about the next month. After that, who knows?
GLTA
GH
They are still ongoing at the moment is all I can get.
Oh, and can you provide the name of the person you spoke to at Delaware.
I'm sure it won't be a problem for you if I ring them as well?
Many thanks for your help.
BVDog
How many shares do you hold?
You rant and rave about illegal this and I'm gonna kick their arse, and they should go to jail and blah blah blah.
But you never mention your holding.
I think everyone here is rapidly coming to the conclusion that you don't hold shares and you're here for another reason.
Like your an ex-associate who doesn't want things to turn around and in that case youre' screwing everyone else who actually doe shold shares.
Furthermore, your comments "I looked at it with so and so and they said this was fraudulent" are absolute total and utter bull. When a securities or state registered official finds something that is fraudulent, they don't chat about it with some bar room lawyer wannabe, they take action. THey don't discuss it with some chump who rants on an anonymous forum, they act on it, becuase they are professionals and do their jobs.
I'm getting a bit sick of you trying to kill my investment with your SUE SUE SUE posts.
We know you don't hold shares (I've got private messages commenting on that), so why don't you sod off and try your manipulations somewhere else.
Have fun
GH
Funnily enough, I checked with the T/A.
There are 19 shareholders, and have been up to 30 people on this board posting comments.
Why do you think I stopped? How many here do you really think were true shareholders giving their input.
I'm real sorry to see Doc, Clancy, Lem and D man move on. I think they actually did hold positions and were genuinely concerned.
Based on the info I got from Fidelity I definately think there were other motives.
Stafford is all moving forward, but things are quiet. At the moment they are saying wait until the update, which should be due this week. From what they will say to my mate is they have new connections and all of their time has been devoted to filing the 15c211 and cleaning up old mess. If this is all a scam why would you file a 15c211. The first thing you have to do is become immediately more transparent, the last thing fraudsters would want.
It's easier for me to hold my position as I go in later, but I still think it's going somewhere.
I also think if it was illegal, someone would have been on the case earlier. A lot earlier, and a lot mroe senior than the bar room lawyers who show up here from time to time.
Anyway, I'll get blasted for that, so I'm off for a bit again.
Good luck to those who hold, thanks for your time effort and input to those who move on.
Hope to see you a in bar one day with a big fat cigar and some cool bubbly.
GH
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=158767&command=displayContent&so...
Electronic version of article
GH
No issues Herb.
I started posting again because there seems to be some good happening. I stress SEEMS.
Press is good, a buyout would be mega. Hopefully it will all bring in new parties and drive this pup up!
Good luck
Herbie,
If that's aimed at me, way off track. Not part of Medify, or attached. Genuinely have a contact, he genuinely has worked with MDFY and now talks to them regularly.
Hope this puts your mind at rest.
GH
More UK news...
Press have been at Medify offices today to sort out a front page piece! Seems to be a lot of interest.
Mate rang up and had to wait to speak to Ian as he was in with photographers.
Also piece in Public Service Review today, forwarded by the Health Minister.
Will let you know more when he finds it out...
Geetar checking in.
OK, couple of points for you. This is all we can find out at the moment, will expand on it when my mate gets more info.
1) Talks now into the money stage. Apparently JB won't sell for anything less than $3.50 a share. Needs the PPS to come up (or at least the bid to increase for several days) to make that kind of discussion sensible.
2) Ian has apparently agreed in principle with JB that he will retire 15 million shares. Don't know anymore, but it's got to be in relation to making the deal move forward.
Not much more to say at the moment.
GLTA
GH
Hey Guys
How was the webchat. I tried to get into the one on Wednesday, but was away on Friday. Looks like feedback was pretty good. Will sit down and read the transcript later.
Just one note, Bob, it seems you mean well mate, but no corporate buyout happens because the little company rings the big company and says hey, wanna buy us? What normally happens when the little company does that is the big company rapes it's idea and leaves it for junk. Maybe Ian and Nik are putting the house in order so it becomes an attractive opportunity for someone? I still think the buyout route is a possibility for MDFY, but no company would take it until everything is on track.
And the other thing, which I've said before. They aren't gonna do what we want by stamping feet and demanding that we effectively micromanage them. I think we're at a job point where they are taking notice of the board and listening to feedback.
We'll see what happens next....
Thanks Turp!
Was just a bit worried that you were inside as well. Don't mean offence by that.
Hope you get sorted.
GH
Turp
I have a question, cos I'm confused.
You said earlier that you won't disclose the conversation you had in JB's office.
But in the post you put up sometime back (pasted below) you said he wasn't at the office, and neither was Ian.
Have you been back? If so, what's the latest?
Posted by: Turpinator
In reply to: None Date:10/31/2006 12:03:23 PM
Post #of 15964
I went to
Staffordshire and can confirm that Voice 2 voice are there. There were 3 smart bods in suits busily working away.
I crawled upstairs and although the sign said Tpb Technoligies on the door, it was in fact Medify. Not sure why they don't say who they are but there you go.
Ian and Jonathon were in Doncastor but I spoke to a very pleasant secretary.
I have a photo if anyone wants proof as I've no idea how to load it up.
CHeers
GH
My pleasure....
Hi Folks
Interesting couple of days here. I saw the release and know that any company such as Vodafone doesn't allow you put out the news on their headed stationary without approval.
So I take this as Vodafone news.
I contacted the press office to confirm this (using the details at the end of the release) and it was confirmed. I also asked what was so important about it, and although the product was supported by Voda previously, it wasn't sold by them. Now they are working with Medify on sales leads through their existing public sector sales team.
I asked my man to find out their side of it, and they see it as very significant due to the access it delivers to the customer base already in place. As Voda is a big organisation it takes them a while to act on news, but they confirmed it is going out on the Voda wire, but timescale is out of their control. Voda publishing this would be huge!
Anyway, all we can do is wait and see I suppose....
Ok, so today in Stafford....
....everyone is revving. My man can't get details but it IS to do with Europe.
Guess we'll see if anything happens at opening time.....
GLTA
GH
No problems mate.
See what they come up with next...
Hey Solid,
No answers to your questions yet cos everyone has been on holiday....
And I can only get the answers my mate can get from the company. And we know they are reading this board. If I can't get an answer, then I just can't get it. I'll happily try, but it's geetarman, not superman.......
Hey Guys, Happy New Year.
Just read some of the previous posts and want to say thanks for the kind words.
I'm still around, have just been really busy at home. Our boiler went bang over New Year and I'm living like a Victorian at the moment, having to boil water in the kettle and use the coal fire!
Trying to get a plumber in the UK sucks....
There hasn't been too much news from the Medify camp as my mate had a few extra days off after Christmas, so he's not back until Monday. I've asked him to see what the current situation is, and if there is anything juicy happening.
We should also get a new Investors Bulletin next week, and I'm interested to see what they have to say, especially as they seemed to take some of solidgolds reply to the last one to heart.
I'm also hoping that the fact we've had low volume over the past few days means that whoever has been dicking around with the pps has found a new target.
As for 504s, I'm onboard with the view that the sooner they finish the better for everyone concerned. I'm still of the opinion that I'd prefer them to use 504s to keep going rather than going bust and reducing my shares to a big fat zero.... But it is only my opinion.
And I think there are some other really good insights here. It's not just the geetar show. But I'm pleased that at least so far the New Year has started off a little more balanced. Maybe the blokes in Stafford can pull something out of the hat and reward that.
When I've got news, I'll let you know. In the meantime I hope you had a good Christmas and are enjoying a happy 07.
Catch you later...
For the audience, I'm still not JB....
Folks
Here's hoping you have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year.
Apologies for not being in touch, but I've been working. And besides, reading the board, it just makes me not want to post. To all those who've posted supportive messages, thanks.
To the others, well, I hope it comes good for you in the end.
I've also used the time to do a lot of research.
I wonder why some of the people who post here are investing in pinks at all. Pinks are risky. Pretty much everyone rates them as high risk. And if you're responsible enough to invest money, then you should be responsible enough to deal with the fact that investments go down as well as up.
Now, I missed the split, so I know I'm in a better position than most, but I'm down too now. And the last thing I want is someone hyping up a non-existant case that kills the company completely and means NONE of us can recover anything on our investment.
What do you think is going to happen? Some judge is going to give you all your money back? Be serious.
Bv, I hope you are well. Couple of points if you do want to push this to legal action.
1) As far as I can learn Medify is a Delaware company, so jumping up and down that you want UK people to take action is pointless.
2) Medify's Company Secretary was a lawyer. Doesn't that make you think that everything has been done to the letter of the law?
Now I'm not trying to have a pop at you. Honestly I'm not. I've got better things to do than get in an arguement on a forum. I really do understand your frustration. But sometimes I feel the axe you are grinding goes a little beyond other peoples points? Were you involved with Medify at an early date? Are you an ex-employee or related to an ex-employee? I really, really do hope that you can pull back some of your money without needing to go legal. The only thing that happens then is lawyers get rich.
And I hate that!!
There are a couple of others who post on here pushing for legal action. One of them, my contact has learnt, has a deeper story than you have all been told. So, please, make your own judgements. We all probably invested thinking we could make a bit of money really quickly and this hasn't happened. So we have a couple of options. Whine, whinge and wail that it just isn't fair. Or look to our portfolios to try and build up the loss somewhere else (Doc has had some good tips and I admire Clancy a lot for his decision). And try to believe that with new people that this may just go somewhere.
Now, we know from this week's Investor responses that the company reads the board.
So maybe we try posting some positive ideas here and see what they think. At least we are getting honest answers now. Maybe the feedback they give us and we give them can be turned into a useful forum.
We've got the webchat to really get a measure of Ian's plans. When has the company given us that chance in the past?
Doc, I'm trying to find out some more people for you to talk to, but as it's obvious they know where some of the info that my contact gets is going, I've got to go the long way round. If I can I will.
Solid, I lost your message, please repost the info you'd like me to research.
To the rest, the positive, the disappointed, the bashers and the delusional may I wish you all the best for 2007 from across the pond. Enjoy the time with your families and loved ones and make the most of what's REALLy important in life.
Take care all
GH
Think I've caught it off the rest of you. Waiting for my divvy shares and considering buying some more.... is there a rehab for MDFY?
Got BT man to contact them today. Couldn't get much out of them. Asked him to sniff around about number of units in use, as that's asked a lot on here. Was told that they are working with 10 PCTs, but they won't release sales data as it could be used by a potential competitor. All divvy stuff is on track their end apparently. The talks that were held earlier this month went well and they have the folowup next week. Couldn't get a hint of who it was as they just cited NDAs.
Also got him to ask if there was anything happening on the PR front. He was basically told that they are sorting out partner marketing, and expect to kick this off in Jan. AT least this means it SHOULD be backed up by some of the bigger names that are on board.
Anything else I can get him to find out next week?
Quite a poignant post Lem. Been speaking to Medify? Contact says he has been asked to prep some information for online forms that are going to be posted at an online sales portal at MedifyRemote.com. Basically the theory is it is being created to ease some of the sales pressure.
He didn't say anything about a free copy of Nurses go Wild though. DO you get that from a specialist supplier???
Have fun
GH
Great. Get back from holiday and find the share price on it's arse. Nice.
Not.
Have spoken to BT bloke to find out what's happening and the only thing I can get out of him is that BT are up to something. They are re-entering the mobile market over here, specifically interested in Wi Max, which is designed to let users access information-heavy applications on phones etc. Might be linked to our baby.....
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=112693
Let's hope things get better before Xmas.
GH
Completely incorrect info on equitygroups.
Mike, The Medify solution links to individual GPs surgeries who use EMIS systems to allow access only to the GPs local records held on the computer in the surgery. If you look at the diagram on the website (http://www.medifysolutions.com/newsarticle.php?articleid=40) you will see the link from Medify to N3 and then from N3 to the EMIS system running on the individual GPs practice server - there is no mention of the connecting to the Spine database (which doesn't exist yet, anyway): "The Spine is a key component of the NHS Care Records Service, due to be fully established in England in 2010. The National Programme for IT has awarded the national contract for the Spine to BT, who will provide software and support to connect all NHS organisations in a single secure system." (http://www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/delivery/programmes/spine/availability) Joe
This kind of half assed info is the sort of thing that has made them think that shorting is occurring.
The news from UK HQ....
Is that they are P**ssed!! My contact spoke to Medify this mornign and they are doing their nut. Apparently "alleged" US shareholders are contacting the German exchange hassling for more details of the floatation date etc. for the European floatation. This is jeopardising the floatation!
The question being asked by Medify is why the hell would any shareholder be doing this?????? Screwing up the floatation would have a massive knock on effect on our pps.
The only possibility for this activity is that someone is shorting the stock, which according to them is illegal as hell as the stock isn't borrowable.
So they are researching what's going on.
Let me know if anyone hears anything that side of the pond because if this is happening it explains why our share price nosedives anytime it tries to lift off, or we get any positive news.
And I've just received this from an investor who doesn't post on iHub...
"Geetar,
A quick note of thanks for your regular and accurate informational
postings on the Ihub Board. I'm a lurker following Medify on Ihub since
it's inception...also an investor entering at various price levels.
You have been a breath of fresh air. The regular cast of characters on
Ihub need to stop and take a breath even though frustration and
disappointment from shareholders, as you have gently stated, is
understandable. You won't see me posting on Ihub in the foreseeable future however, I
would appeciate any communication and information you are able to
provide regarding Medify.
Thanks, and don't let the Ihub board get you down."
So we're not alone....
Give the dog a BONE
My email address is geetarhooligan01@yahoo.co.uk.
If you need to know that badly.
Ok, so I'm here.
And I've been doing some more research, but I've got to say, after reading the board for the last couple of days I kinda felt like keeping it to myself.
From being in a very positive frame of mind about things, as soon as the share price rose everyone turned negative. On several points. And again, I know this isn't gonna make me any friends, but.....
1) 504. Obviously these are being used to fund the company as revenues build. There's nothing sinister about a company doing that, or even unusual. Yet there have been calls from people on here that supposedly know lots about trading screaming about how terrible this is. What, that the company is moving form the development phase into revenue generation and is using a common and legal practice to do this? What would be better, to let the company die when it's so close to achieveing all of it's milestones and turning into a profitable entity with a sustainable future? I'm sorry, I fail to see how that's a bad thing.
2) PR. Now, because we don't see a new PR everyday the world is ending. Or so you'd think. A government body has directed it's corporate partner that it should handle it's own marketing. Sacre bleu! Apart from the fact that it is probably against policy for them to issue releases that will make money for corporations, they probably don't have the resource to invest in pumping out press releases all day long. THEY quoted for Medify's release, but the value of this has been killed right here on this board.
3)JB shares. How is this our business? It's his company. We are investing hoping to make money on the back of his (and his teams) work. He grew it to the point where it's delivering a REAL product (and how many pinks don't get that far?) to a REAL market that has publicly stated it wants the product. I am concerned about my own shareholding (which, like the rest of you no-one put a gun to my head and made me buy). And I'd rather not see my investment slated day in day out in a public forum. How anyone can think that slating the company and it's chairman is going to beneficial I'm lost. Obivously the issue will have to resolved if there are any future negotiations, but again, that is work for the board NOT for this discussion group.
4) And on that note, how many companies run themselves based on the opinions expressed anonymously on a forum? Why do we expect Medify to do that? The people involved can only make money if this thing is successful. It has been stated that the new management are putting into place (and delivering already) a strategic sales and marketing plan. And it's working. But because noone is an overnight millionaire proper comercial growth is a bad thing. Please. If you want to get rich overnight gamble on the lottery or Vegas, and then post on one of their bulletins how unfair it is.
And how many of the people that make these comments have actually successfully launched, floated and then sold on a company.
So, I know you probably won't like that rant but it's time to get real. A buyout would be great, but so would a company that is in serious growth, has successfully completed development and is now making sales. Ie, a real, stable company.
I have spoken at length with my contact over the past couple of days and there is definate development. There are ongoing talks, but no-one will comment due to the NDA. The share dividend WILL be issued, the legals in the states are just being completed before the T/A is informed. Nothing sinister.
And sales are coming in. The European activity is also coming back into the mix.
So it's all good.
He doesn't know what is causing the strange activity today, but based on our chat I'm happy to ride it out.
These are just my opinions. If you don't agree, that's fine. Good luck to you.
GH