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20k/daily is probably a long ways off. If we were drawing even half of that, we'd be sold already.
Don't worry, when the charging for service starts, we'll see the benefits. I just heard that they're ramping up gov't computer systems to automatically scan computers when they visit certain sites and if they find that you downloaded a song without authorization, you're subject to get a knock at your door. The "cash for clunkers" website is supposed to be one of them. More will follow. Remember when I said that they were steadily looking for new ways to grab people for downloading free music? Once they've got everything in place, everyone will have to pay. That's when Hypster will be a real cash cow. Millions of dollars monthly will increase the value and the pps of this stock. Just wait and see...
Nice. Better than 2150 new users daily. New stuff coming in August. Let's see how they affect new usership.
A taste of what? Another stock that I bought and still own for less than .0002 per share.
Unlike YOU, I don't buy at the a$$ end of a run, then go begging and crying about sending e-mails to the CEO to save me. I buy something that looks good to me cheap, then wait until it comes around.
That particular note was to another basher (LIKE YOU DUMMY) who came around to "protect" those of us who had invested in another penny. Just like I told you- people don't need your protection. (Especially a sucker like you who can't protect HIS OWN A$$) When I buy a lotto ticket, I consider the money already spent so dummies like you can keep your protection, advice and bashing to yourselves.
The more, the merrier! Lolol!
He lost his a$$ on EESO too. Now he's here telling others to follow his advice. Lolol!
Nice post Salt. Every week we get some more news that confirms what I've been saying all along don't we? Lolol!
Looking better and better in light of the fact that we've passed one and a quarter million users.
Yes. Interesting info.
Exactly. The bashers are easy to spot. They come out of nowhere with the phony "protect others, we care about you" rhetoric.
The ones that I don't understand are the people who hang around here digging for any scrap of information from any source, asking the same questions repeatedly to anyone who posts, whining and worrying about an investment like this. I doubt seriously if any of these people have more than a few thousand dollars invested here- if that.
If that type of sum is making you lose sleep, you shouldn't be investing in pinkies because the potential loss is more than you can stand and the odds are high that you will realize these losses playing pink stocks. Seek out another type of investment that's more stable and less risky. That's the simple solution. 95% of pinks are going to cause you to lose money. That's the way it is.
If you're playing this stock or any other pinkie, you should just write that money off and forget about it. If you've already played and you're scared, place a GTC and get out when it moves again. Others have.
If this stock is a loser and goes down the drain, all the whining in the world won't make TLM return your money so why practice exercises in futility?
BUNM is going to do what it's going to do. The only choice one has that will have any effect on anything is whether one decides to stay or go.
LOLOL! I wish I was. Then I would be collecting a "Pumper Check". I'll see if I can be a little more negative in this post. Quite frankly, I couldn't care less what anyone else does regarding this stock. I've made my decision.
HEAR YE, HEAR YE!! ALL WHO FEEL THAT TLM IS A RUTHLESS VILLAIN AND BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL LOSE THEIR INVESTMENT, PLACE A GTC AND SELL ALL YOUR SHARES NOW!! YOUR ORDERS WILL EVENTUALLY BE FILLED, YOU CAN PLAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIVES AND STOP GETTING GRAY HAIRS FROM WORRYING ABOUT THIS STOCK!!
As for me, I'll just hang on until I've lost mine. The money that I invested in this stock nearly 4 years ago is already spent as far as I'm concerned.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well one thing's for sure Foggdogg, it'll be a great personal consolation for me to know that when your prediction comes true and we all go down the drain on this one, you'll lose your $40 in shares too. Lolololol!!!!!
3 weeks ago you're telling everyone how you sold and got out along with another poster, now you say it's impossible to sell. Why don't you make up your bang-tail mind? Lolololol!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah but I'm not a new investor.
As I've said many times, I've been here longer than the majority of shareholders here so why are you responding to my posts?
If you were a good looking woman and needed comforting for your feelings of abandonment, maybe I could help you but that isn't the case here so you're wasting your time responding to my posts.
My position is clear. I see a light shining at the end of the tunnel and I'm not selling anything for any less than .02. If the bottom drops out somehow, I've only lost money that I have written off and considered already spent 2 years ago.
I've seen you on other boards basically doing the same thing.
We're flatlining again and we've been flatlining for the past few years. If I didn't bail during those times, I'm certainly not going to bail now with all the new developments in the industry and government changes that are going to open the door for this to make a mint right around the corner.
If you can't deal with TLM's silence, sell and move on if you've got shares of BUNM. Isn't that the simplest solution?
I don't like the silence either but I'm not fighting any battles that I can't win. It's his company and if he chooses to be tight lipped, so be it.
He's silently created something has value now and that'll have a lot more value before long and I intend to be there when it all plays out in a few months.
Your statements are contradictory. Army logic. The Hegelian Dialectic. War brings peace.
You say that you have little confidence, feeling abandoned, neglected and ripped off. Yet you imply that you want to sell your shares by telling potential investors that this is a bad investment because Hypster will never make any money and the CEO is a ruthless villain with a $300 enterprise.
Who the hell is going to buy your shares with that kind of message?
There was plenty of action a couple of weeks ago. TLM hadn't opened up any. Why didn't you sell then if you had shares? You could have been out and using the funds on one of those other stocks on whose boards I've seen you.
Other people bailed. Why didn't you if you're holding shares?
Next month after the site changes there'll probably be more action. Put in a GTC and sell out. Hell, let me know when you're going to do it and I might take your shares off your hands and no hard feelings. Hope you make a ton of money with your next investment and I hope you have a CEO with a big mouth like a drill instructor at Ft. Bragg.
Why doesn't US Army surprise me?
You made that statement about not going public before to someone who was interested. I never commented because I have absolutely NO interest in your opinions on how cheaply TLM could have made this website. My concern is with the finished product and the fact that it has drawn more than a million users and continues to grow while the industry with the help of the courts/government are making sweeping changes which will open the door to monetize what he's created. This could lead to a big payoff for those who own shares.
If TLM made something for $300 that turns him into
a multi-millionaire, I'm not going to waste time criticizing him. I should be trying to find some way that I can turn $300 of my money into millions like he did. So should you.
You may not agree with my outlook and that's your right. Only time will tell who's right and who's wrong but responding to my posts with all that stuff about what TLM has done wrong is an exercise in futility here. The finished product is paying him dividends already. I'm looking for it to pay some to me. Like I keep saying, the money's already spent. I'm not selling a single share until this plays out. End of story. Glty in your $300 venture.
No. I had to stop back in May. Remember when FD posted that article about the guy who was indicted or something for sending them out? Even though I wasn't doing anything to try to influence the pps, a prosecutor could construct a case implying that I was. With me being a shareholder, he'd probably get a conviction.
Go back a ways and you'll see the posts. I'd have liked to have continued but these days, they're looking to get anyone they can for anything they can. I've got enough problems. Lol!
TLM will just have to get by in life without my assistance on this one. Lololol.
The good thing is that even though it looks like there was a drop off after I quit, new users are still signing up at a good pace. A quarter million new sign ups in the past 3 months isn't too shabby.
Yeah, it might get filled first but when this thing takes off, you'll be wishing you'd have placed your order closer to .19 than .019 Lololol! It'd be a shame to have to chase it wouldn't it?
Lolol! I've got a gtc for that for about 5M shares. I'm holding out for a lot more with the majority of mine.
Ohhhhhh JP. Why are you telling this to me and hitting me with the same questions over and over?
I don't have any connections to TLM other than being a shareholder of BUNM.
He doesn't tell me what he's got up his sleeve. He doesn't invite me to his nights out on the town. After we hit it big, I might hang out with him a little bit on that Vegas trip we've got planned but that'll probably be the limit of my nights on the town with TLM unless I run into him here in the Caribbean.
Send him an e-mail and if he doesn't pretty up, sell your shares. Lololol!
You saw the last pr that said that they were doing upgrades which should be beta tested in August.
Why keep worrying about how he's going to work to screw the shareholder. Yes, it would be work. If he did nothing and just let things progress as they have been and will continue to do, he'll be making millions and the pps will change itself because you'll have many more investors once this company is raking in millions per month.
He'd have to negotiate something of a breakup of the company in order to screw us. That would take some work and I don't think TLM has this in mind for the sole purpose of screwing the people who helped him get to where he is. There's nothing to gain. It's easier for him to simply let things stay the way they are and everybody gets paid.
If you really feel that strongly that he's a ruthless villain and has it in for us, put in a GTC and when it starts moving, you'll be out. There are plenty who have already done it and gotten out.
As for me, I'm in until the fat lady sings on Hypster. Like I always say, "the money's already spent."
August is right around the corner. Wait until the site is beta tested with all the new upgrades before making any decisions.
The current site hasn't stopped nearly a quarter million new users from signing up in the past 3 months has it? Relax. We'll get there.
JMHO
Yep. And don't forget, little Suzy and Jimmy don't seem to have a problem charging other stuff online when they want to. After they plead with mom/dad for the $2 for their music service, I don't think their parents will begrudge them this little indulgance. Don't forget that when the time comes, they won't have anywhere else to turn for free music if they don't want to risk problems with the law.
JMHO
I'm glad that 1.2 million feel differently. Why aren't you on the boards of those "other" wonderful music services telling them what they can and can't do? We don't need you here.
Better yet, while it's so easy according to you, why don't you start your own music service for $300. You'd make more than you make as a paid basher. Lolol!
I think you can find demographic stats on that website that I posted in the I-box.
If TLM is smart and wants to keep his losses to a minimum, he'll be accepting many forms of payment including PayPal, debit cards and others. Almost every bank account you open in this country offers a debit card with a Visa/MC logo. Most people who spend time online have at least one.
Sure, initially you're going to lose some who just can't pay because despite the year being 2009, there are still people who live like it's 1749 and don't have bank accounts nor internet access. I have a neighbor across the street like that. Of course, he's not listening to music on Hypster either. In my view, people will pay just to keep from disrupting something that they're accustomed to and enjoy. Another reason they'll pay is because they won't have anywhere else to turn for free streaming music unless they want to have their doors kicked in by all these new Federal agents who are starting to watchdog and arrest people for copyright infringements. Remember the housewife who has to pay millions for downloading free music? You're going to see more and more of this.
If you're listening to it, you're downloading it to your computer. You're going to see more and more of these cases. The writing's on the wall. They just hammered out an agreement for paying the artists. The free sites are going to be gone soon. I'd say that there are more 17 year olds with debit cards than there are 35 year olds who are going online to find some free site in another country that pirates music.
All pinkies are gambles. This one just seems to have more going for it when you consider it's position along with the changes that are occurring in the industry. I've been holding for a long time and I don't spend a lot of time thinking of the many ways that TLM can screw us.
Unless he's got a deliberate and well planned agenda to "screw the shareholders at all costs", there should be more than enough money to go around and as the company starts making millions in monthly revenues, we should start seeing new investors piling on as the site grows and new users come aboard.
JMHO
I think he can get away with $2. Something else to keep in mind is that when TLM starts charging, almost everyone else will be too. The average person who sees this isn't going to want to disrupt their lives over $2 a month. They'll probably curse TLM for being a greedy s.o.b., whip out the CC, pony up and continue on like nothing's happened.
JMHO
Just continues to show that we've got a valuabla property that's in demand. The more we have when the changes take place and Hypster starts charging, the more monthly revenues there'll be initially.
I think he said that this stuff would be ready for beta testing in August.
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Lolol! I say that I believe that Hypster will be pulling in millions of dollars in monthly revenues within the next couple of years.
Where that will put the pps is something that I don't know. I'm sure that there will be other factors which will influence it.
You can imagine that once all of these companies are charging for service and Hypster is picking up between $2-$5 per user, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to calculate out how much revenue is coming in the door just through the users. You'll probably have a whole hoarde of new investors who want a piece of this multi-million dollar company.
JMHO
Where did you get those figures? I never posted anything like that. This is the second time you've attributed those figures to me.
Naaah. Probably just a little of the paranoia that's been going around lately after bashers started appearing on the board. Just relax. I think we're getting close. Time will tell.
What are you talking about? Everything's right there in the I-box like it was before. Maybe you've got the "hide I-box" button pushed.
"I CAN'T SEE!! I CAN'T SEE!!"
"Why??"
"I'VE GOT MY EYES CLOSED!!!!!!!"
It's the "Low Profile" look. Lolol!
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Glad to hear it. I'd hate to see you bail out and then have to watch the train take off without you after you've waited so long. I don't know anything for sure but I'm just connecting the dots and laying out the picture that I'm seeing.
Well thank you. It's JMHO but ALL indicators point to what I've been saying and every few days there's something new to verify it. We'll be seeing the fireworks before long...
JP, you keep hitting me with the same question over and over. Why is it so difficult for you to see that a company that's generating MILLIONS in MONTHLY revenue is going to be operated differently than a company that's making $15-30k per month?
With those kinds of revenues, he doesn't have to worry about spending his "night out on the town money" to pay for prs, reporting, advertising, upgrading and other things to grow the company. He's probably been operating on a tight budget since he started but this is going to blow things wide open.
Unless you know that TLM HAS an agenda where he's just "got to screw the shareholders at all costs", why do you insist that everything will be the same after Hypster's pulling in that kind of money?
I've been holding for nearly 4 years and have yet to see anything like an r/s. He could have done it several times in just the time that we've been holding. Why hasn't he? Isn't he supposed to be a ruthless villain? Lolol!
All TLM has done is quietly built Hypster into something that will make a lot of money before long. No he doesn't say much but if you just look at the finished product and where it appears to be headed, you can't be too disappointed at where he's brought us.
We already have the news about the compensation for the artists. The courts and the government are hot on the trails of those sites who provide and people who continue to refuse to pay for music.
Why do you think you're seeing all the new want-ads for government agents? Remember the court case that someone posted on the board a couple of weeks ago where the housewife has to pay millions of dollars for downloading free music? I anticipate that this will extend to just listening to free music before long. Just read the writing on the wall. Just have patience and let things play out. You won't be sorry.
JMHO
Now doesn't this go right along with what I've been saying all along?
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/07/07/web.music.royalties/
Apparently they've been working out a deal with the artists behind the scenes. Now they've reached an agreement with the artists for compensation. They've got agreements for the big fish and the little fish in the pond of music streamers.
Now that it's clear that they're all going to be paying royalties to the artists, the next logical move is for all of the services to begin charging their clients and blame "those greedy artists" for the new fees. Lolol!
STB says that Pandora is "already making changes." He didn't say exactly what changes they were, but wouldn't it be ironic if they were the next following Napster to begin charging for service followed by all the others simultaneously. It'd be just like opening "Pandora's Box" Lololol!
If TLM comes out with a small charge like $2 a month for the Hypster playlist, it'll mean millions in monthly revenue for BUNM and I think he'll keep the majority of his users.
I look for the charges to begin after the upgrades are completed.
Let's see what our pps looks like after that.
Hey King V, JP and others.
Don't get this army reject a paycheck by responding to him. He came here out of nowhere a couple of weeks ago with all of his rhetoric from "paid basher 101" class and was quickly exposed for what he is. After we made him, he took off. Now he's back trying to make a living doing the same thing. If TLM were registering fake users, I don't think he'd be doing it at this slow rate. We'd be seeing 12-20 million users now or more. Our user growth has been increasing in a normal fashion. Slow and a little boring, but consistent, significant and increasing.
Nothing to indicate anything but normal user growth. The other person who's consistently here bashing these days and trying to discourage investors was pro-BUNM until talking to different sources related to the company.
He indicated that he had gotten some information but couldn't give any details. Then he suddenly turned basher. First, he made himself look like an a$$ by basically predicting an imminent r/s after TLM filed those papers a few weeks ago to cut reporting costs.
He claims that he sold all but $40 worth of the stock that he was holding but is still hanging around and coming in with anything he can dream up that may sound discouraging to other investors. What for?
We all know that TLM doesn't do much in the way of pr, but for some reason he did break his tradition and send one saying that Hypster is getting a makeover and will be beta tested next month.
In light of the work that's being done on the site, one would expect an already running site to occasionally have some glitches and functionality issues while the upgrades are taking place. Over the past weekend my playlist was acting funny. Now it's playing fine again.
Don't waste your time responding to paid bashers. The very fact that they're here in the first place could be indicative that something big is just around the corner.
Remember that according to the information we received a few weeks ago, there are only a few of us shareholders. It could be advantageous for someone if the few of us who were left were shaken out before big things start happening.
My response to those who want to bash BUNM is just this- I've been holding for nearly 4 years. I'm not selling any shares because as far as I'm concerned, that money has already been spent. I don't need you to save me from the ruthless villain TLM. End of story.
I don't want to wait another 2 years either. This could happen this month for all I know. It could be responsible for the renewed interest. I just know that there are all kinds of moves being made in the industry to centralize music/entertainment sources and they will open the door for this kind of change by Hypster and the other music services to start charging without losing all of their clients.
Napster is already charging and doing well. The others are going to follow. They just have to coordinate how they're going to simultaneously start charging without having the artists start gouging and without making it appear to the government that they're trying to corner the music market or otherwise create any type of monopoly.
Thanks JP. JMHO! Lol!
I think we're in agreement for the most part in our opinions about what will ultimately happen with BUNM but our opinions are different about why things will happen.
Hypster isn't going to become a paying site because of the drive and ambition of TLM.
It's going to be a pay site because the changes in the industry with the backing of the courts and government are going to facilitate things to where ALL of these sites are "pay for subscription" type websites. TLM is just going to follow suit. Once the majority are charging for service, there are other dynamics involved which won't allow for the survival of those who don't. I don't think that it was ever the intention of any of these sites to provide "free" music players forever.
I think all along they had the intention of charging for these services but needed to build the user bases and get people accustomed to and for lack of a better word, addicted to using these websites as regular sources for music. They've probably got things set up in the software structure the ability to cut off any individual user at any time. With this ability, they've got "no pay-no play" set up right from the beginning.
I don't doubt that TLM would accept a buyout. Actually, it's been what the vast majority of us have been hoping for in order to get a more rapid return on our investments. What I'm saying is that should a big player decide to buy, it won't come with a cheap pricetag because unless he's completely crazy, TLM knows full well what will be happening with these sites in the near future and probably isn't going to accept the equivalent of 1 year's revenues for a music service which will be making millions of dollars per month- probably within the next 2 years and for all the forseeable future.
Yep. Just a hunch. Only TLM can tell you anything definate and he isn't talking.
Filing/reporting can be expensive. So can auditing and providing the financial records for reporting. A few weeks ago, TLM submitted some paperwork releasing him from some of these obligations and subsequently, these costs. But then, right now, this is a company that's probably making tens of thousands of dollars per year. After Hypster is charging for it's music player, BUNM will be making millions per month.
I think you'll see a difference in the way things are run at that point. I also believe that a company making millions per month will have a much different pps than one making what it's making now.
JMHO