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Hopefully, his presence means that $SANP/$ASAMA is a sunken treasure! $SANP certainly sank; Will $ASAMA be a treasure?
A few thoughts on (the new?) $SANP
1. After a 100% day increase in PPS, I am not - generally - worried about a 1 day churn. I'm just happy to be closer to a non-bagger.
2. But, this is $SANP - and as many (included me) have previously posted, they do not have a history worthy of trust. Still, one day is just one day.
3. My main questions are:
3a. How new is this $SANP: specifically, how much influence does VP FY still have? And, similarly, how much influence does the new President Duc Thang Dao have? Furthermore, why have they not posted these updates with the OTC - just as PRs and with the state of Florida.
3b. Are the claims about ASAMA's mining facilities true? I agree with others on this board that a few pics showing them would be worth a thousand(s) $. Again, this is mostly because of their new connection (and thus history) with $SANP.
3c. Where is Canoe? As posited here earlier, are they just consultants? And, are their board members still active? Is this some triple collaboration?
There are also questions about the SS and general PR, etc. But, the above seem to me to be the most pressing. If ASAMA wants to succeed in the US with its new US vessel ($SANP), ASAMA must acknowledge its historical perceptions and answer these questions. I'm willing to give a little leeway on the timing of these answers, but not much. This is the result of the baggage of this deal.
Finally, I want to give my (potential) due credit to FY. Yes, I said it. IF the above is answered in a positive way, then he did a great job - though, in a highly questionable and mercurial way. I still don't trust him at all to manage this deal (I certainly know great deal-makers who are also horrible business-managers). But if he indeed brought a real merger to fruition - then he is due his applauds; if this continues, though, to be still scammy - then he and ASAMA are due their final condemnations.
Here is the link from the QR code:
http://v1.rabbitpre.com/m/QAu6uERQi
I scanned the QR code on Frankie's picture. It goes to an url for some conference in China. It actually looks pretty interest, even though I can't read the Chinese. Can anyone here? Of the 41 guests listed on the site, there is Frankie and Matt ... AND, believe it or not ... Vitalik Buterin! All of the Chinese names are in Chinese, so I can't tell if Ang Li was there or not. Also, I can't tell when this conference was. But, Frankie, Matt, and Vitalik listed as 3 of the 41 shocked me!
Great board & great $IFXY catalysts! GLTA!
The WayBack Machine has one capture of that URL - on Sept. 22, 2017.
It says then that the servers are in the "U.S.A".
https://web.archive.org/web/20170922161608/https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/pools/canoe-mining-pool/
RenegadeOnTop,
I don't have PM. If you are going forward this, please PM me with a contact (email/text/etc) that I can respond to.
Thanks!
I'm excited for PRUTUS! Does anyone have an URL/twitter for it yet??
Also, how long ago was that 2-week notice on the FINRA name change? Should be real soon?!?!
I'm excited as the countdown for the SEA ICO. It is also interesting just how different the pps scene is from this time before the GETX ICO launch.
The GETX launch commenced $IFXY's backslide; hopefully, this is just the opposite too!! Well positioned to be so!
I can now get to it (canoepool.com) too. Thx!
Is the canoepool website working for anyone??
My favorite part of P08's whitepaper is this on p.2:
By accessing this Whitepaper or any part thereof, you represent and warrant to The Company, its affiliates and The Company Team as follows:
• You acknowledge, understand and agree that PO8 may have no value, there is no guarantee or
representation of value or liquidity for PO8, and PO8 is not for speculative investment.
• None of The Company, its affiliates, and/or The Company Team members shall be responsible for or
liable for the value of PO8, and/or liquidity of PO8 and/or the availability of any market for PO8 through
third parties or otherwise.
• In any decision to purchase any PO8, you have not relied on any statement set out in this Whitepaper.
Ohh, so prophetic ... and pathetic!!
I can only hope that the old Frankie $SANP is dead, and a new Canoe $SANP arises.
Frankie and ManBun seem to be following - or, just imitating in a very amateur way - $IFX*, which already has mobile mining units (Grow.Droids) and a marine archaeological gold discovery ICO (SEA coin). Reading about these new P&Ds is absolutely hilarious in their duplications.
Until the end of Nuvus's GETX pre-sale 1, the bar graph seemed to be stuck at 750,000 of 20,000,000 sold.
Now that pre-sale 2 has started, the pre-sale 1 has been updated to show that it was sold out - all 20,000,000!
Specifically:
"
1 GETX
0.00038 ETH
March 10-25
Pre-Sale 1
20,000,000
Sold Out
"
See: nuvus.io
$IFXY
I agree. At most, future prices may be denominated in bitcoins, but payable with any of the few "hard" coins.
The most important thing about bitcoin is not bitcoin itself, but the blockchain technology behind it. Blockchain will change financial transactions, etc. How that translates to specific stocks now? Ugh, I wish I knew!! But, there are/will be 100s of stocks claiming that they are working in this area; only a few will last.
Agreed, BTC will NOT be THE currency of the future. Besides the time and expense of mining, the capped supply would cause de-stabilizing deflation - and then undermine either free international capital flows or sovereign monetary policy, see: the "Impossible Trinity". It would be akin to the rigid gold standard that contributed to the Great Depression - but even worse since new gold deposits were discovered during the interregnum period.
BTC will be huge - it may be THE currency for high-level financial transactions. But, more likely, it will be one of a few cryptos that are used to supplement financial transactions, while maintaining domestic currencies and policies.
IMO.
Hey Skinnyman, I don't have PM. Sorry...
But, your question is key: how likely is it that Li will become CEO, or at least become the de facto CEO? If he doesn't, then IMO we might get a brief mini bubble at some point (~0.0025). If he does, then who knows: maybe dimes or more.
I have no real knowledge, my expectations of it happening, though, are pretty low. Like I said in my previous post, $SANP is a lottery ticket. But, even if the chances are only 1-5%, those are still so much better than Powerball!
Exactly wrong: MIA CEO is great! We want CEO Li. If I never hear from Frankie again, I'll be so happy!
As a post awesomely stated about 2 weeks ago - this stock is a Schrödinger's cat: either already dead (i.e., Frankie) or about to live strong, long, and huge (i.e, Li).
At $3 or 4 hundred for a million shares, it is a lottery ticket that is so much more likely than a lottery ticket. (Personally, too bad I have bags of more expensive shares!).
Why not drop a few bills and wait and see!
www.nuvus.io updated....
It looks like it is reporting that the first pre-sale (March 10 - 25: 20,000,000 tokens) is already sold out.
This doesn't seem to temporally track with the previous bar chart on the site, but I'll take it!!!
Keep selling: $IFXY!
It's Alive!!!
I've never been so happy to see 0.0025!! Keep it up!
This should win best post of the year! Sums it all up - though, appropriately, cryptically!
Unfortunately, I'm still here too ... - bag holder.
But, I haven't sold (I too need to learn to be a better trader!) - but now I don't plan on selling anywhere near these pps. And, it is so sad...$SANP has so much potential, but they have seemingly just let it go ... Shame on them! And, it is just dumb for their own $!
But, it can still recover. I don't trust Frankie at all = zero. But, $SANP potential and their self-interest are still there. So, it might just be another P&D, but I think, IMO, that some recovery (maybe in days, weeks, or months) is still probable.
There are certainly many of us baggers still here, they may be trying to wait us out - otherwise, any upward movement will see significant counter-selling.
For FWIW, from WHOIS.COM (red added):
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Hi all,
I've been here long - so far - since Nov., though disillusioned with these cartoon PR posts, the stock dilution, and the see-sawing ticker.
But, to the real long-timers, has the I-don't-trust-as-far-as-I-thrrow Frankie ever given up Board control before? In other words, is this historically P&D maybe different this time?
I ask in all honesty - and, maybe naivety.
$SANP.
Wow, $IFXY, you sure are entertaining!!
I'm holding long - whether up or down for now.
But, these dips were just too tempting. On a secondary account, I've bought more on Thursday (though just a fraction of what I already own - I just didn't have any more cash available). Unbelievably, I was able tp get about the same amount this morning @.0036. A small but incredibly "cheap" side-account.
This account is already quite +, and I'm : ). More to come!
Wow, great eye!
I hope that this is only sloppiness. But, even if so, $SANP need to get their sh#t together! They and we have a fabulous opportunity here - make it work for all of us!
I don't think that the hearing, per se, will be too significant. They will probably just describe the increased regulatory scrutiny of ICOs that has already been happening.
And, investors are also ramping up their own oversight: https://www.coindesk.com/cloud-network-xunlei-hit-by-class-actions-over-ico-activity/.
These are why our ICO(s) must be done right! Hopefully - and expectedly - the 1 week delay is just that.
$IFXY - maybe another dip tomorrow, but then running with the bulls!
It is interesting to see that some investors are challenging CEOs for not being truthful. I sure hope, for all of us, that Frankie. Li, & $SANP can be believed...
https://www.coindesk.com/cloud-network-xunlei-hit-by-class-actions-over-ico-activity/
Also, it is interesting that I had invested in $XNE* during this time period - this report, though, is the first that I have heard of the case.
It is still listed as Feb. 1 here:
https://www.icoalert.com/?q=nuvus&is_v=1
If this is just irrational exuberance, then why no shorts?? Can't have it both ways - unless all traders are exuberant (rationally or otherwise) for this ticker. In which case, giddy up!!
IFXY
I've been a IFXY long-holder since trips. I hope that it runs hard! But, IMO, we should be steely if there is a short-term pull-back tomorrow (only short-term (day or two) because of the fundamentals well documented here). The day tickers for this stock with a long upper shadow on a green candle is followed by a day or two down-turn. But, then again, we are so close to Feb. 1 that that may not be immediately predictive.
I did not know about - and thus not following - www.canoepool.us. Was it a mirror of the .co site? Or, was it different?
For me, www.canoepool.com is loading just as it always has. The last displayed datapoint was from 1 - 16 06:00 (which, if this pool is being monitored in China, was at 5p EST - 2 hours ago).
Also, the way that I read the licensing agreement is that Canoepool and Santo will create Canoe Pool America. This does not necessarily mean that Canoepool - as it is currently configured - will move to the US. The minimum that it means is that Canoepool will work exclusively with Santo to create a new pool operation in the US. Potentially, a pretty big difference than some of the interpretations here.
Meanwhile, canoe-coin.co is still dark for me - and its countdown clock would be at zero minus 19 hours.
Before canoe-coin.co went dark, it had a countdown clock for its new coin. It should have just clicked to 0. What's up?? It seems like a perpetual question recently!
I posted this a few days ago. The biggest question - IMO - is that it was suppose to launch a coin at Monday 12a (EST). Shouldn't the webpage bugs have been worked out by now?? And, there were some oddities on the webpage - e.g., price rose, but the percent sold( presumably) did not.
So, is this just "maintenance" for the release , or is it diversion? By this time next week things should be much clear - one way or another.
I don't know any Chinese, but I used google-translator. It reports that home page just says:
[header left] "Mine Pool Stable high-end professional pool"
[header right] "log in" "register"
"Welcome to" Canoe "Mine Pool Mining"
"Mining address related configuration, please log in to see the FAQ. Mining pool customer service QQ group 529209111"
[blue dot]"5 hours average power"(P)
The bottom buttons are for "sign in" and "sign up".
Too bad for the troubles, but 100 free trades is worth like 500,000 free shares of SANP!! I'm happy that it got resolved for you!!
Thoughts:
The santo.io site for SANP on the first scroll-down section says:
"SANTO will give that extra power missing from your mining arsenal so you start producing results like a champ. With a half a trillion crypto currency market cap, there is no better time to be a miner than today." (underline added.)
What are people's thoughts on what this means: Current Units? Potential value? Dollars? Bitcoins? Some super-sub-penny crypto? And, what might it mean for us?
To me, it is a powerful but, basically, meaningless statement - without further information. I am interested to hear others' thoughts.
As I posted before, I'm loaded (including more today) and long in SANP. But these are the type of simple clarifications that could give investors much more confidence in their fundamentals and direction - which is all that, I believe, many of us are hoping for. But, I'll always give my patience for their competence .. to a point.
Update:
The canoe-coin site is down (the current legal relationship with SANP is still a bit up in the air). The site says "The server is under maintenance, please visit again few hours later. Thank you !" I take this as potentially very good news.
This plus the stock trend over the past 5 days of 3 downs and then 2 dojis is also a potentially good sign. IMO
To recent posts:
Djdj...: I sure hope that you were successful in re-investing through a different company. It really sucks what happened to you!! I use Merrill L and Charles S - both limit my buys to <1m shares per buy and Merrill requires a 2nd authorization. Otherwise, both have been good to me.
SteveW...: Thank you for all your really thoughtful posts!! I first learned of SANP from you! (I'm a recovering BTSC investor.) Also, I'm not a lawyer, but would the US courts not uphold a contract denominated in any non-US currency? I would assume it would if it the currency was, say, Euros, but what if it was a currency under a much less reliable court/law system? Your question is so interesting!
I first invested in SANP @ 0.0004 and have read every post here since then. So, I'm not too new. And, I know that news is suppose to come this week.
But, over the past month+, I've tempered my expectations of what their news may be. I'm patiently long, but too much of the previous "news" has been too cryptic.
Some basic questions that I (and many posters here) have are:
1. Why are the only tweets news articles not about Canoe or Santo? (Well, I guess they also tweeted Happy New Year wishes.) Some here have interpreted them as hidden clues - and maybe they are.
2. What is the canoepool site actually displaying - their own machines? Santo's machines? Some measure of their pool? What is the actual status (more than an LOI) among these entities?
3. What is the status of canoe-coin? It seems be going live in just 1 week, but why can't I register for more info - just like on the canoepool site. And, what is the 93% that it displays? Why has it been static, but the price has gone from $5.6 to 5.8, since I first saw the site weeks ago?
4. Who is really in charge Li or Frankie?
All of these are pretty basic questions - and maybe I've missed if they have already been answered. Either way, I hope that they are all working so hard that they don't have time to address them right now and/or it part of a grand strategy for a massive release.
And, maybe some of these will be answered this week. I hope so. It seems to me that the next 2ish weeks will be quite meaningful for the (at least short-term) future of SANP.