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Since so many are touting wisdom, I will pipe in about the ONLY important factor for shareholders today and that is this stock needs and qualifies for "UPLISTING". This is the only way to get honest trades and real investment money interested in ECOB. We could have lots of HD press and a change of management and operating principles and it will mean nothing to us shareholders. Only an uplist will bring the share price up by investors desire to speculate on the product. NO $$ of merit goes after penny stocks... NEVER....With that said how does ECOB get uplisted ? An R/S is the only practical method open to management and Redwood and ARCA and all the other entities many complain about have no meaning one way or the other. Holding on the bid will continue until ECOB is off the OTC and in a controlled exchange. If there was any other way to uplist for ECOB, I am not aware of it. Stop the "steering" based on fear or visions of grandeur. Penny stocks are the biggest gamble there is, but this product is NO GAMBLE and has a future....
Tax credits can be used in a later period and employment taxes exist without "profits".
The half dozen or so Vets Conboy has hired will bring more to the company than you can ever ponder. This was one of the great choices ECO made and I have great faith in all of them to apply truth, salesmanship and credibility to the greatest "Green" lumber product available today.
bille, There are incentives to hire vets... Read up ....
Some posters have little experience or knowledge of ECOB and the lumber industry. They should all know Home Depot and that they are anything but a stupid company that would contract a supplier without strong DD and a product that will move off shelves and not collect dust and debt. It is ignorant for anyone to quote from the 10k as if it were a blueprint for the future and all the Conboy bashing is speculation at best. Steve started with a small truss company, some contacts and an idea and has brought the company a long way through the worst economic times in any of our lives, unless you lived through the Great Depression. The building industry is still moving slowly and the media has been over hyping it's return along with real estate prices. Both are still close to bottom and until jobs are the focus in DC it will be a slow road. Belief in the product is the reason I have been a shareholder from day 1. A good investor never agrees with everything management does and toxic debt is just part of doing business in these times and ECOB was fortunate to even have that in what it is attempting in changing the lumber industry. There are dozens of things that have been done from certifications to enlisting governmental agency support that all the critics either don't bother to find out about or too lazy to know what they are investing in. There are also the bashers who are attached to every message board and in every stock there is. Keep to the facts everyone, not your hard feelings over losses or your speed reading of financials , which by the way never look good in stocks that offer real potential opportunity for people other than insiders to make large profits in the 1000% and up arena. We will see more direction August 1 and I am in it for the long haul because I am a speculator and that's what we do.
MM's need to be fair and honest while "making a living" and on ECOB they are manipulative and hurting the stock.
After today Redwood may be "tapped out", we all hope ... Charts say time to run higher. IMO, After July 31 will present ECO's future
Need a lot of planets to align for that drama, Longvestor
Whats all the fighting over ? NOTHING is going to happen until the end of July and you will continue to see ARCA dumping and holding the bid and ask hostage, so woever is accumulating these large blocks gets them for cheap. I for one am adding and suggest any long may want to consider the same as a R/S will be a good thing for this stock and it is an excellent uplist candidate.
and UNLIMITED many if not most of the posts about ECO have been speculative and in many cases total BS. The facts are often twisted and questioned with no purpose. Like you wanting to know how long I have been here and how long I have owned shares ? If you know dates so well than you must have been reading my posts and already knew how long I was here. My investment and opinions are of what interest to you that you ask me such questions ? Instead of adding to the discussion about current ECO events you choose to play 20 questions not unlike TAG !
By my count, Redwood has at least 10m shares left... I have been on this board from day one and have heard all of it and Cobra who has been previously skeptical of pumping is just presenting a positive interpretation of events moving forward. I agree that now is the start of ECO's real future and this is not a "penny play" at all as most of the longs know. There have been over 75 million CHEAP shares bought up by insiders and a few small timers like some of us. I will continue to add shares at these prices as a R/S could be a very healthy thing for us and an uplist on a company like this is probable, especially with HD distribution of sauce and lumber... GL to all that have waited for this day to come.
Don't agree on the "coatings model" as you put it working as ECO does not have adequate "coating" facilities around the country to service HD and that is why in some markets , like CT., ECO will partner on lumber with Interstate to the HD consumer as it will in many markets and this will open the door to licensing which is how the company will really make money. Any other model requires too much dreaming and speculation.
I don't agree that ECO will only supply coatings to HD. I think there will be consulting fees, involvement with lumber suppliers and possible ECO to job site direct in certain regions like using Interstate in Ct and taking a % of lumber sourced by ECO. Later licensing fees will be the commodity.
Cobra,,Just got your PM about HD and my name. I actually did buy the "Fire Break" and it worked great on a small wood fire and broke down in the soil after one rain and now the area is green again in only a few months. I was asked by the HD manager that I spoke with about "Red Shield" being in stock to post a comment on HD's website so others would be encouraged to try it if it worked and it did. I agree with your recent posts and will remain long a couple of million shares as I know the product will become a standard in building within a few more years.
Conversions on a break and big block buyers only buy when MM's control the bid/ask. News must be coming as SC and MV have been quieter than the Marlboro Man ...
Chloe, Most posters here are positive or newbies that have not done the homework and posters like TAG stir the pot with years old information and dumb questions that don't need answers. Your right that more of us Longs need to post more helpful info, but it often gets ripped apart by the people who lost money on the stock and posting negatives is the childish revenge they seek to try to hurt other investors
phishtrick, You want a store that sell ECO products to prove what ?
You are far behind on your DD. TAG, there is a supply chain in place for all the sauce ECO can sell.
Maybe Guthrie is not taking it all at once ! and maybe MV is now dbl booking existing and to be delivered ? IMO ..
Tag is not happy unless he is asking old questions that have been answered already to make new board readers think that ECO has bigger problems then it does. ECO is no different than any other 5 year old company with new products to change a market. The assumptions that they would have any assets or cash is just plain nonsense. NO company like this has a dime and even well funded ones, since the VC's keep it all , have no $$ on the books. BTW, HD has the strictest DD in retail for it's vendors and suppliers and that's a fact. Supply lines are in place and product is available contrary to TAGS thousands of posts putting this company in a worse looking position than really exists.
IMO J45 nailed it
The Q should not be a surprise to anyone, except the GOOD NEWS about movement forward with HD. They do much better DD than any of the clowns complaining on IHUB. This company is NOT doomed yet and TAG and his gang on these message boards still insist that "SC has stolen every cent and that the company has nothing left". Well I have seen much greater financial problems resolved in dozens of companies in recent years and ECOB is doing just as I expected at this point in time.
HaHa. I'm not laughing at the circumstances though. ECO has a long history, like from day 1 of having debt payment problems. Means nothing in the long term. The money to fund ECO will come from an investor that wants the product, period. They will leverage a controlling position and that's it. Or it may be the toilet for my 2 million shares
Homet, you are way over reacting to very old news that all us longs have been aware of for years now. You need to stop playing the "pumping" cards or "day trading". ECOB is a long term high speculation play and of course attracts other investors too, but I suggest that you do a bit more reading as all the information about the product and it's mgmt. is available online. The stock is being manipulated for "debt conversion" by the various "market makers" who play Penny stocks (PUMA for example).The stock price has been brought systematically for weeks back to a specific range with the exception of last week (maybe the AH that pushes the FU button was out sick) when there were no convertors selling for any price. New debt and/or a long term big box contract will get the only significant jump or maybe when SC finally runs out of shares...
Don't agree with you Ripster on "small blocks taking profits". This has been too systematic and happens often and always when the pps has risen to any level."Small Blocks" are not selling off for an $8 gross only MM's do that
MM's have now dragged it down from the 3's to 023 one 10k buy at a time. Let this stock go and everyone wins except the low life
pulling the strings
Now the MM's are back trying to drag down the ask. When will it stop
JAYP, Why would you "take some off the table " now ??? With your past predictions and information shared you presented yourself as a long with obvious insider or just good information, but I question this based on your past postings. Most of us longs have been loading up and bringing down cost. So why the change of strategy ? Did Tags nonsense change your thinking ? lolololol
More dumping today and MM's just keep pulling it back down every time it wants to rise with 5k buys...Maybe this will end sometime this year ?
Old Chinese Proverb......
The longer the explaination, the bigger the lie .....
Too many "Dumpers" here and us "pumpers" have kept our mouths shut for a few years now, unfortunately...lol
Pretty sad when "Tag" has little to say .... lol
I'm still here Tag and still have positive thoughts about ECO's future if the toxic debt can be wiped out by a large contract or new money. I'm in for the long haul with 2 mil shares and feel that it is still early in the life cycle of a company like this and although many decisions made are not what I would agree with, but often a vision like SC had needs a bit of scamming and coniving to make it work. I think SC is determined to make ECO a success and putting patents in MV name to protect it's value is one of those type of items that you have seen the other side of Tag in thinking that they are trying to pull something. Well I got news for you that any company today trying to change an industry will haave to take alot of cheap shots,expensive loans and asshole partners along the way to get to that level of success that can begin to shed these unconventional loans and methodology's.
Tag, BTW I tried to make contact with your source and funny how nobody there seems to know you and all are positive about ECO's future. why is that ?
The product lines have been "proven" and tested to the satisfaction of all govt and industry certifications Tag, so when will you stop your fabrications ?
Only said SC did a good job bringing product to market. He has managed the company only well enough to still have it's doors open, although I still feel the products can lift ECO out of it's debt with better support of a big player and MRL can do this if they can resolve current items. There will be big $ for the lumber coating industry in the next building cycle and it's not far off
Lots of "Tag" tonight, but no clear answers or proof. The MRL letter only means shareholders have further security if Conboy has other plans, but don't think he does and from what I have seen over the past 4 years Conboy has made tremendous headway into the supply chain. I know the owner of Interstate/Ct and he has 50 years in the lumber biz and is betting big on ECO coating products and has interest from the entire building community in this market. This product will survive and if MRL plays it's cards properly we (longs) will prosper
I got it J45 and appreciate the note
Very interested in how MRL will proceed now and what options they take that may benefit shareholders..I will remain long.Thanks all for any positive inputs past and present
Thanks for sharing all the news. Tag, I will make that call and see how far I get. Thank you for the info source.
Gerry, any idea of intentions and forthcoming actions on the cease the added shares situation from MRL
I'm with Archie on this and hope too the product is strong enough to survive management in this slowly growing marketplace. In 5 years this product will be common and a standard in building unless the players/debt holders and the logistics burn it down first and I'm betting they won't
Without "Tag"I hope
I repeat...THERE ARE NO TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS FOR ECOB....