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BigBakes notes from SH meeting
This is great reference as to what was said compared to where we are:
My notes from the BEHL SH Meeting. Posted by BigBake1 post # 79010. Thanks again Big !!
In Attendance: Dennis Fisher (CEO and COB)
Frank Rawson (CFO)
Monique Berry (EVP and Dir)
Heather (Assistant)
Shareholders in attendance: Estimated 30, as people were moving around and outside to the hallway to make phone calls. Seating for at least 90 was provided with pen and paper for note taking.
Location: Number 1 ballroom of the Monte Carlo, with adequate refreshments provided at the back of the room. Very neat and organized display with literature available. The environment was clean and very quiet, ensuring a comfortable and easy to listen area for all. The room was adequately sized, not too packed and yet close enough that even those who wanted to be wall flowers in the back were still close enough to be included in the discussion.
Pre Meeting: Dennis Fisher and staff were walking around introducing themselves and talking with shareholders getting acquainted. Heather was offering name tags for those who wanted them (I refused the offer, I like my jacket without holes). Some discussion going on, overheard some scuttlebutt about Dennis Shen, it was centered around disagreement in management decisions. To put a fine point on it and some speculation to fill in the blank, it appears to be creative difference and allowing another company to come in and make changes. Take it however you want, I could clearly see that has more to do with others that were not initially involved in the beginning encroaching upon someone’s work.
Monique Berry is a very nice individual and is no wall flower there to look pretty, much like Dennis she had no problem walking up and introducing herself to anyone in the room. In my line of work when looking at a leader it is important to observe how other interact with those they do not know. Strength is introduction and carrying a conversation on your own, not being meek and avoiding possible interaction and staying close to those who provide strength. No crutch here……
Frank Rawson, interesting fellow here. Also not a problem with interaction, and he likes to discuss things in detail. I found him to be very realistic when discussing expectations, after the meeting we got to talk in detail about expectations of the OTCBB process and I walked away with full respect that he had a realistic timeline of events. Nothing wrong with being aggressive, but in this case this guy knows the hurdles and expects them to come out.
Notes: The reading of the March 24th PR after Dennis Fisher introduced himself, as you know he admits to not meeting the his own expectations and those of shareholders. He took full responsibility of making such promises and failing to meet what he had said was going to happen. Nothing more can be said on this, it is right there for everyone to read and interpret their own way. Being in the room all I can say is that it took the crowd by surprise, not exactly how you perceive the First meeting to go down.
Of course he moved on to the remainder of the PR talking about the private funding from Black Mountain, confidence was high that we were getting the funding and we should see something within 45 days or so. The new CEO has asked to not be revealed until his current commitments have been terminated, not an unusual request as my Wife is a Life Coach assisting top executives in transitioning from one corporation to another. It prevents bridges being burnt and creating animosity in the future as your network is your strongest asset. He felt we will all be happy with this decision of who it will be.
Of course the next matter of business was the 90 day expectations which you have already read in a PR about the website, laboratory, and so on. Word for word as read at the shareholders meeting. Once this was complete the floor was opened up for questions, surprisingly people were hesitant to ask right away, there was delay before the first hand raised up. I can say that Greenman100 asked just about every question that was posed on this board before the meeting, he read them off a list. Great stuff I wrote down some notes from this session and you have read most of this stuff here already so I will stick to some of my points of interest. That is just the way it works you are getting filtered information, you may have had other interest but… well you know the answer to this already……………
Expectations by the end of the year to have 25 acres up and running. A question asked about ENTK resulted in a less than enthusiastic reply by DF. First, it was painfully obvious that ENTK is a non player, without much details, it was pretty much written off as without the credit and cost effective process in place to separate oil it is not a profitable business plan.
Open pond systems, much dialogue up here about the efficiency and the possible contamination issues. An interesting point was brought up, as you know huge fires sweep through Southern California, that ash gets carried in the wind for miles. Turns out several open pond system fell prey to ash this year and the product was a complete loss. Ash is nearly impossible to filter and placing a tarp over an open pond for days kills the algae.
Series B shares were restricted for one year.
RWE going public will have no effect on the current JV with BEHL.
RWE will get 50% of the 6M order.
To set up HQ in Huntington Beach CA the cost before shovels hit the ground would have pushed to nearly $100,000.
The priority for revenues are as follows:
1. Algae Oil sales
2. Biomass
3. PBRs
A one acre system produces approximately 300lbs a day and at a cost of .05 per lb.
Current PPS aligns well with the current state of the company. Expect an increase to around .07 to .10 by the end of the year as revenues begin rolling in and current objectives are being met. This has not direct reflection on future objectives changing value.
No applications for federal grants as of yet, within 90 days. This seems to be more as a fall back if private funding does not come through. That was my take on this process.
The 504 has been paying employee salaries.
Life expectancy of parts:
1. Corners 12-15 years
2. Tubing 2-5 (recommended 2 year replacement cycle) cost of .17 a lineal ft.
More Omega3 contracts are currently being pursued, this is where a lot of money can be made in a short period of time.
The AS is at 1 billion shares and that will be it, the new 250million authorized have been restricted for 1 year.
OTCBB, progress is being made, but as you know this time of year is a little difficult to get auditors fulltime to review two years of financials. I would not expect audited financials posted until May. No CPA is going to undercut this time of year to dedicate themselves to one client.
In order to go to the NASDAQ it requires a PPS of over $3 being held for a 6month period of time, as you know the forward looking objective is there in two years. Pretty lofty in this current state. Time will only tell once we see revenues coming in, as the PPS will start reflecting future value as opposed to current value.
No RS, my take is this, it will all depend on the execution of this company over the next year. Success in generating revenues will raise the PPS. Going to OTCBB with a penny stock will make no sense, and if we are still here at this level, I cannot realistically see a way around it.
Broadstreet was the entity that accounted for the number of shareholders currently holding positions in BEHL.
Tyson’s, here is the deal with this company. As you know BEHL PRed almost a year ago about selling animal feed to Tyson’s. The Algae feed is rich in nutrients and with the concern for more vitamin rich type foods Tyson’s was looking for an alternative feedstock that may boost certain qualities in their chickens. Well in order to this BEHL must provide several hundred lbs of this feedstock for quality control testing, without a means to produce it is obvious where this is currently sitting. The door is open to future arrangements, as I am sure any company is open to a possible new way of doing things to improve their product or cut costs. DF stated this not dead and very much a future opportunity.
Currently BEHL is paying a $1 per lb for CO2. That is what initial costs will be when the PBR is up and running at SA.
These are my own notes and some of my own thoughts. Read them and do what you wish, I know it took a while to get them posted. But I was also out there for my own business and just got back yesterday, and what a packed two weeks it was. I got to go the NASCAR race, saw a USAC Sprint car race, got a tour through Carrol Shelby’s entire production area, ate at some of this finest establishments, got 2nd place in a Hold’em tournament and paid nicely for it, all in all a great 2 weeks.
Did this really take place ?
press release
Aug 14, 2009, 3:53 p.m. EST
BioCentric Energy ALGAE Harvest for Bio-Diesel Production Significantly Exceeds Expectations
SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO, CA, Aug 14, 2009 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BioCentric Energy Holdings, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: BEHL) today announced the company's first successful harvest of ALGAE for the production of clean burning Bio-Diesel fuels significantly exceeded expectations yielding almost 30% more ALGAE than originally projected. The crop produced from the company's on site closed loop Photobioreactor is now on a continual harvest cycle and is producing sufficient ALGAE to produce approximately 8 gallons per day of Bio-Diesel fuel which equates to almost 50% of the crop produced from the 1800 square foot test system. In addition to the Diesel product, the harvest produces high protein animal food supplements which do not require any additional processing. The combination of the Bio-Diesel and animal food supplements makes the production a very cost effective system and profitable solution. Using the company's closed loop system, license holders operating a one acre ALGAE farm would be able to produce in excess of 50 gallons of clean burning Bio-Diesel per day along with significant animal supplement nutrients for retail distribution.
Earlier this week, the company submitted samples of the animal supplement ALGAE crop to a specialist laboratory for analysis and a nutritional breakdown report which, when completed, will enable the company to package and offer the products for retail distribution. The ALGAE's nutritional content will help a large variety of animals and pets maintain a healthier lifestyle.
Company President, Dennis Fisher, earlier this week conducted a public radio interview on the company's progress and patent pending technologies for the production of ALGAE and its many applications for worldwide solutions for the production of clean burning alternative fuels and all natural food supplements.
I thought Goodall determined we were a long ways off from making bio fuel
Thanks khesanh. Check this out
I did catch the off topic part. Your right. Khesanh I have over a year of DD. I want you to read this PR from 2008. This is the kind of stuff that we see over and over.
Web exclusive posted Oct. 7, 2008 at 1:59 p.m. CST
BioCentric Energy Algae LLC, a subsidiary of California-based BioCentric Energy Inc., is developing an algae oil project in the Guangdong Providence of China.
According to Dennis Fisher, president and chief executive officer of BioCentric Energy, the Chinese government has granted the company 50 hectares (110 acres) of land adjacent to an industrial site in Wahan, China.
The industrial site emits 40,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide annually through its smokestack. BioCentric Energy will capture the carbon dioxide and feed it to an algae solution contained within 6.5 miles of 25 inch pipe. The piping system will be constructed in pod formation, with each pod containing 480 feet of pipe. Fisher anticipates BioCentric Energy will have 40 pods producing oil by June 2009. Once complete, the facility is expected to generate approximately 80 tons of algae biomass per day.
Fisher said the algae utilized by the project will generate approximately 47 percent oil, which will be extracted and sold to biodiesel producers. The remaining algae biomass will be converted into biogas used to fuel microturbines and produce electricity. Engineering on the project has already begun. Construction of the facility is expected to begin in December.
http://www.biomassmagazine.com/article.jsp?article_id=2091
scroll down to see the original PR
"BG, I always respected your thoughts. But damaging his reputation? As in leaving a company within the first 90 days after the PPS dropped 50%? Trust me man, Brian Goodall isn't going anywhere soon." Post # 90385
Steve017, Who do you trust now ?
Resignation predicted post 90382 6/8/2010
Next Prediction and Final Post for tonight
Board,
I seriously do not see Goodall sticking around much longer IMO. Three reasons:
1.) Obviously, they are out of cash IMO.
2.) Fisher is still calling all the shots as Chairman of the board which history shows is a mistake (No seperation of power or unbiased input) PR's, share structure control etc.
3.) Dr. Goodall has worked all his life achieving multiple degrees, patents, awards and inventions. He has successfully worked for some of the largest corporations in the world. I personally do not see him staying with a company like Behl that is carelessly shooting from the hip while using HARD EARNED shareholder money. Especially if it starts to damage his reputation which IMHO could start leading down that path sooner than later.
IMHO BG
Sad day for us shareholders
Clarification / Retraction
Poor choice of words--- To Whom it May Concern:
I apologize and hope you will accept my mistake and move on with your investment decisions.
I hope this is my last post as I have said I am burnt out on Behl.
My statement regarding restricted shares being given to I-hubbers was misleading the more I thought about it. Now that I am in a better state of mind (calm) after the past several days of turmoil.
Yes I am upset with Behl mgmt for personal reasons in which some of you agree with me and some do not.
In doing more DD and re-assessing my post: Some shareholders were given restricted shares to promote Behl, but this was about past shareholders and most likely they are gone like BigBake1 mentioned. I have NO knowledge of current shareholders having restricted shares for the purpose of continuously pumping Behl no matter what. So in my time of meltdown I mis-spoke by mixing past with present and obviously that is not the case as far as I know. I don't know if there are current shareholders with restricted shares promoting. I cannot confirm nor am I willing to research the matter. I would not even know how to go about getting the SEC involved if I wanted to.
In NO way did I post anything to try to make a quick buck. I promise you that !! I was LONG all the way until early May and as I said before sold about 70 % of my holdings and now am left with the remainder.
B G -- GLTA and Have a great day !
I resign !! GLTA
Your right team I have had it. I still have shares and I wanted Behl to succeed but the more I find out about management the more I get frustrated.
Did not mean to offend any shareholder as we have 1 common goal ( I think) -- That is to make some money in an honest way. I learned a hard valuable lesson about Pink Land over the past year.
I really have taken some TREMENDOUS HEAT from some of you folks and obviously I am not welcome here by the majority so with great regret I tell you I am done.
Please Steve017 remove me as a mod.
The posts I made were from hard work, research, phone calls, conversations with level headed sources. I have NEVER posted anything that I pulled out of thin air. In fact, I honestly hope some things I have discovered turn out to be false. My intent is not to drive the PPS down. I still hold alot of shares. My intent is to know what I am invested in and have honest transparency from the company in order to determine if it is worth me to stay invested. Right now I have not a clue if this is a good investment or not.
GLTA IMHO
Behl Gates Signing Off
Steve017
You are going to Santa Ana soon. I want you to look Dennis and Monique in the eye and ask them both if any I-Hubbers have been given restricted shares for keeping up positive posts on this board
I have 1 alias and that is a FACT. Just 1 --- Behl Gates
Do me a favor you come back here and post your honest gut feel of their response. Can you do that ?
I have heard there are I-hubbers with restricted shares. Can I prove it . Of course not but the source/sources are very reliable
BG
I got proof folks
1.) I proved to myself I don't trust a word he says
2.) Pretty solid DD that some I-Hub board members have been given RESTRICTED shares in order to post positive comments to try to keep the PPS up even in dismal times. How ethical is that ?
Does anyone wonder why everytime bad news comes out a select group responds with a positive spin.
Where is my free shares?
I will respond again
So basically, anything spoken of by Behl on CC's or phone conversations are for entertainment sake.
Therefore, the buck stops at the filings where the ultimate truth comes out.
BigBake1 -- If a shareholder speaks to an executive
on the phone and is told that there will not be anymore shares issued guaranteed then how does that fit into the By Laws ?
More dilution next quarter
Just spoke to a pretty solid source and the 500,000,000 increase yesterday is part 1 of 2. I am furious !!!!
BG (Down in the trenches once again)
Im gone for tonight LOL
Good night board. I admit I am a little rattled over this share increase. I need to sleep on it and think with a level head.
As always - we got a great group of investors here with strong opinions.
Miracles do happen (I am a believer in that)
Sincerely,
BG
You know beastie
This is a little comforting if true. But this is the kind of stuff us shareholders need to hear. However, I totally disagree with your statement claiming that "Fisher is also not the one calling the shots"
He probably told you that in a private conversation. Believe me IMO he is probably calling almost all the shots. I have talked to too many sources who will back up my claim.
I expressed my opinion on Goodall leaving
Steve, I would like to here why you say "Trust me- he is not going anywhere"
Can you specify anything that might put our minds at ease
Steve017 I appreciate the response
And was about to turn in for the night. Let me ask you this.
Do you think Goodall approved this share increase ? In addition, We get a June PR about all these highly critical things going on with Behl and how they feel it is important that they update us shareholders.
Yet on May 28 Fisher amends the share structure !! And they (Goodall and the other execs) do not feel that this is worthy of a PR.
Steve are you supporting this behavior because I am not. This is my/our money that is at stake here.
BG
I stand corrected
7000 or 7500
How about several thousand shareholders
Next Prediction and Final Post for tonight
Board,
I seriously do not see Goodall sticking around much longer IMO. Three reasons:
1.) Obviously, they are out of cash IMO.
2.) Fisher is still calling all the shots as Chairman of the board which history shows is a mistake (No seperation of power or unbiased input) PR's, share structure control etc.
3.) Dr. Goodall has worked all his life achieving multiple degrees, patents, awards and inventions. He has successfully worked for some of the largest corporations in the world. I personally do not see him staying with a company like Behl that is carelessly shooting from the hip while using HARD EARNED shareholder money. Especially if it starts to damage his reputation which IMHO could start leading down that path sooner than later.
IMHO BG
It does not matter anymore
Brian is a CEO of a public company regardless of where he was before, he is now the CEO and he knows this coming from his fortune 500 background experience.
If he is not prepared to carry out the duties of a CEO of a public company then he should have never taken the job.
We got 7,500 shareholders that want the truth and want to know what is going on with our investment.
Exactly! Goodall should inform us !
As part of the CEO's fiduciary duty to us shareholders Dr.Goodall owes us an explanation of the reasoning behind the share increase.
Who do they think we are ! This is spiraling down not only in PPS but professionalism.
Goodall needs to PR this highly critical move.
What is his role ? Notice Fisher still solely running PR's and diluting share structure
BG
I think your right
Just look at you and I.
I chose the name Behl Gates
and you chose Big on Behl
That just about says it all
and both of the 2 BIGGEST proponents
of Behl are pretty much throwing in
the towel.
LOL.... Yeah I won't lie I still have anger about the situation but I began accepting failure of this investment early last month
Yes avaritia1949
I in fact, sold off a majority of my holdings as you all know (I think). It is sad, I really put my heart into this company and thought I had found a sure thing here. You guys all saw me turn negative on Behl and I posted my reasons why and I told you why I sold.
Now look at what has happened after all my negative posts and the disclosure of me selling:
1.) The most recent PR put out shows the numerous delays in progress, various cancellations and failure to get financing
2.) Today we show once again MAJOR dilution (2nd share increase) in which Dennis told me first hand last year "No more shares needed" 750,000,000 with 371,000,000 float was plenty to take us to the promised land.
The worst part is that this board is by far made up of some of the sharpest and intelligent loyal investors on I-hub and that is one statement I consider a FACT !! Everyone on here deserved to be reward substantially. I just do not see that happening now. My confidence is shaken-- I worked hard digging up information on this company and when you work that hard and fail-- It sucks. At one time I concluded that this is the real deal and now were back at .004ish. Plus I lost out on opportunity costs as well. All the hours, long distance phone calls, researching. For what ? To watch my investment evaporate !! I would have been better off coming home from work and cutting the neighbor's grass for $ 25.00 a shot rather then sitting on my computer researching Behl all night for weeks on end.
I am angry and feel for every investor on here.
BG
Gone all day and come back
home log on to I-hub. Find out my theory was dead on.
Behl will have to issue more shares
Where else will they get the financing to continue operations ?
The $ 5,000,000 loan is on hold because like I mentioned in a previous post the risk factor has gone up tremendously.
Lenders want to be able to evaluate Behl's books by an independent auditor. I think the next financial statements will disclose more negative figures.
Finance 201... Cashflow is the lifeblood of a company
thanks again
Gummy can you tell
Me where I can find this information. If I wanted to pull up this information where do I need to go to get this ?
Is there a website ?
BG
Outstanding work Gummy.
You bring top notch DD to this board. I personally appreciate your posts because they directly assist me in my investment here.
These types of disclosures are crucial from an investing perspective.
BG
Behl will have to issue more shares
Where else will they get the financing to continue operations ?
The $ 5,000,000 loan is on hold because like I mentioned in a previous post the risk factor has gone up tremendously.
Lenders want to be able to evaluate Behl's books by an independent auditor. I think the next financial statements will disclose more negative figures.
Finance 201... Cashflow is the lifeblood of a company
who dey
i just wanted to be post 90,000
Big, Please send me my $ 10,000 prize via Western Union
Go Behl
That statement there
Is my opinion. I should have clarified that.
Basically,
I feel that the current issues facing the PBR's will result in more delays.
Therefore, obviously if we have no consistently working PBR then there will be no algae, revenues or contracts honored
Current PBR challenges and upcoming challenges:
1.) Leaking turns (with a possible re-work via injection molded)
2.) Pig/CO2 levels and fluctuating pressure
3.) Expansion/Contraction factors once PBR's are installed in So Cal. Temperature differentials ranging from 50 degrees at night to 120 degrees in the day
4.) Possible high winds that could displace the PBR's
5.) Level of ground. The earth must be almost perfectly flat or the head pressure of the water/algae moving through the tube will greatly vary and could result too much pressure or too little.
These are my opinions as well, however, backed up by many discussions when the PBR's will be deployed into the commercialized environment
Sincerely, BG
What is Yury Rahubin's relation
to Behl these days. He and Dennis Shen were both Behl employees at one time. There used to be a picture of the entire team taken at San Juan Cap.
Did Yury leave with Shen ?
es1 - I stand by all those posts
First of all,
From the DD I had to work with over the past year my investor sentiment was 100 % For Behl all the way up to early May 2010.
If we wrong a single customer (over promise/under perform) that alone could hinder Behls progress tremendously. Behl's first impressions are crucial at this stage of their business and in maintaining future growth. Negative results will break this company because word of mouth is very powerful in today's market especially at which communication and information travel.
While researching the PBR progress after the Bio Cam kept going offline, I found in doing some serious DD -- phone calls and correspondence with established contacts- that the PBR is a long way from being perfected I believe the PR Behl released indicates that they must go back to the drawing board on the PBR turns. This bothered my because the previous PR's and "In Touch Tuesday memos "lead us to believe that the Santa Ana PBR was to produce algae within days.
No PBR -- No algae -- No revenues -- possible broken contracts
Then I started posting my findings which were obviously negative. DD is DD good or bad. To further fuel my fears the PPS keeps falling, What has happened with RWE? , contracts are turning into JV's, The $ 6 million order was to be split in half (whats the status on that) I thought RWE was going to co-produce PBR's with Behl.
Too many open ended projects.
-Lenders in my opinion will find it too risky to deal with Behl
-Dennis Fisher's has burned some bridges ( I know and can back this claim up with individuals whom I've spoken with directly and people who have told me that they have heard the same)
-Our expenses our piling up week after week yet the only so-called revenue we have are the deposits made by our customers and that itself is risky if Behl cannot deliver the end products
I thought I had a home run with Behl. We DO NOT have much time in my opinion to keep running in the trial and error mode. We have a lofty payroll and the honeymoon will end soon. I think if things keep floundering then Dr. Goodall may cut his losses and move on (Once again my opinion). Hundreds of hours of research and a sizeable investment in which I sold quite a bit at a loss because my DD is now contrary to what I found months ago.
BG IMHO
Where are we on the PBR ?
Way too many conflicting stories being posted:
The camera is down. There are numerous problems with the PBR. One of the tubes burst, then the ball burst. Water was everywhere. I was out there yesterday. Everything is dismantled and being rebuilt as far as I can tell. They are a LONG, LONG way from growing algae.
grazchen posted this
As I also live in Santa Ana and have had no trouble driving down
to the HQ where the demo PBR is, and peeking over the fence from
the flower street side. I Can assure you that the demo PBR has
not only FAILED but has been completely dismantled, This is the
reason for the camera being OFF.
specul8r posted this (I read this post then saved it into word and found out this post was later deleted.
We have 2 posters claiming the PBR is torn apart
That is good information that I did not catch.
Do you have any information stating the deposits are non-refundable ?
No...I have no idea what the contract
states. You are correct.
Big, let's be realistic here. Do you honestly think that the customers that Behl are dealing with would agree to a non-refundable deposit ?
Thanks for the detailed information on the $ 6 million order. I could not remember how that was presented.
BigBake1
Our customers have a right to their deposit should Behl not deliver the finished goods within a specified time frame as specified in the contract.
I cannot substantiate this but I thought we had to completely deliver the $ 6 million order by year end 2010.
Phaeton
BEHL sold a system (currently being deployed)
Phaeton is it being deployed ? Can you please tell our customers when they will receive the end product from the deposits they have made on various systems? I do not think there is an infinite timeframe for Behl to deliver the finished goods. If you order a car from GM and it gets delayed over and over then at some point I would venture to say you would probably cancel the order and look to another supplier.
If you walk into a shop/store and buy something, that is revenue for what ever company owns or operates the shop/store
I agree and 99.99% of the time that shop or store will deliver the goods you purchased.
Behl is sitting on a SIX million dollar P.O. that was PR'd last year. If Behl reports the down payment as revenue but then has to return the down payment because of failure to deliver in due time then those reported revenues must be retracted.
At this point I want to see organic growth -- Revenues that Behl generates from their internally manufactured PBR's that produce, extract and deliver finished goods to the customer (forms of algae). Followed by an invoice sent by Behl and receipt of payment in the form of cash from the customer. Then we will know we are in business.
Dont twist my words es1
ou cant just claim someone is stupid. Without all the facts, basing any judgment would be stupid.
I am not calling anyone stupid !
I also believe that his lack of higher education may be a burden at times
Did you notice the words may and at times.
Personally I have to question anything you say based on your recent postings
be more specific
Last post for today.
Steve017 is making a personal trip soon. I think he can give us real time information at HQ
Someone else on here said a PR is coming out next week. The million dollar question is will we see revenues this year from the harvesting and selling of algae ?
I do not consider deposits by customers as true revenue. When we sell some algae for profit that was produced by our PBR then I will classify that as a true organic revenue generating process.
It's been fun
gracezchen seems to give Firsthand
accounts of things taking place at Headquarters. I would love to know he / she's relationship to Behl.
For now my gut tells me gracezchen knows more than most of us about what is currently going on.
Now that is my Humble Opinion
Fair enough
I don't believe you, that's my opinion, so deal with it.
It's all good.
Your here and I'm here so wouldnt that be OUR time Mr. Hand
I think we need some humor around here.