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Have to agree there, I also noticed he deleted other ENZC past comments, along with a lot of his other 'misses' on some other tickers. Anyone pushing heavy on bitcoin isn't to be trusted anyway. The math there only favors a few who got in really early, not the masses trying to get into any new e-coin currency startup.
I would suggest, on 10/10/2024, if you're on the CBDW call, depending upon what we hear from that kid, it may be wiser at that time for all of us to reconvene, over on that page, and leave this one dusty and dry, since this is a dead turd walking at ENZC. When Adnexus makes its decision on a go-public date, we can raise whatever message is needed at Chandra at that time.
I'm just saying, plan ahead. If Adnexus is for real, as we thought ENZC would be, things will move fast. Not sure what they're up to, but Chandra's hinting at several things, that, have been in the works since 2021, and claiming the milestones hit. With CC's avoidance of this latest SEC matter, I'm pretty sure as the lead board member of Adnexus, Charles will be quite sensitive to the notion of shareholders catching onto any lie, or premature PR claim. Lambrecht is the first voice to be heard in our direction. I'm pretty sure some form of Adnexus statement will be out not too long after that.
My input for the taking. I've been blocked by all of the pumpers over in Twitter/X, that's probably a good thing, even though I've caught two of them following me there. And I'm pretty sure Dr. C will be pissed at me when he gets his legal notice too. Such is the way of the world when you have to do the right thing sometimes.
Hope that CBDW Call on 10/10 allows for questions to be submitted.
KoP certainly sucks. But Timing has been right about a LOT of stuff. He's no pumper, but he has faith.
Especially in light of the fact that Defense Atomics Corp does not exist as a company anymore. Has not for quite a while.
Yes, all delivered. They had 10 days to reply since last Tuesday. Cotropia's notice was delivered on time. Chandra's is to be redelivered this Monday morning. He was not at his office in Dallas to sign for it on the first attempt at delivery.
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Yes, all delivered. They had 10 days to reply since last Tuesday. Cotropia's notice was delivered on time. Chandra's is to be redelivered this Monday morning. He was not at his office in Dallas to sign for it on the first attempts at delivery.
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That's how it works. Never been different.
A lot of gray area in there Achilles. CC may have convinced them that they knew nothing about it until too late. True or not, and I'd lean your way and say that's not completely true, if at all, if they sold it well enough, the SEC could easily give them immunity from this case.
My only concern is such a deal was not applied too broadly. Our case is well around the charges of this one against Zhabilov, and should not be affected, but there is a chance of that.
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That's EXACTLY what I've been saying Timing. I'm providing the, by far, most-probable reason CCC has not been named.
One point most should consider:
The SEC would be completely in line with regulations to freeze and later permanently dissolve ENZC into absolutely nothing. A slow walk on that is customary, to see if any shareholder values can be restored, after Federal fines and sentences are levied. I don't see the Feds being able to collect much from the cases' target defendants.
The other option the SEC could do now, with evidence at hand, would be to cancel all of Zhabilov's fraud share sales and dilutions, that could give CCC voting control and essentially 'ownership' of ENZC again. The SAGA shares should have nullified already, but could be lingering around in legal vapor-land, I am not certain.
What CCC would do then is still a mystery.
Honestly folks we were prepared for a share conversion into Adnexus Biotech, but until lawyers say otherwise, I'll be demanding a 1:1 share move directly into Adnexus. With folks who dropped out of the ENZC mess, the number of shareholders pursuing a remedy is decreased significantly, and those who sold off because of Zhabilov's actions should get a 15:1 discount on getting shares from Adnexus when they go public.
A shares sale restriction of 90 days or so, protects Adnexus, gets us a 1:1 shares portfolio into Adnexus, and winds up not costing CCC a dime. Now that is a great solution we're offering those CCC members.
I think that's as good a deal as a court would give them under these circumstances. I believe this SEC case gives our legal moves some protection and a higher point of negotiation, if needed.
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It's either that, which is a fair point to consider, or, alternatively, he knew the deal was corrupt as heck, and that it would probably fail, and signed off on it with the guise he had no prior knowledge of the dismal outcome which it would certainly come to.
Then he drops a dime on Zhabilov and partners, to the SEC, offering to turn states evidence. BOOM!
Works either way. You may be exactly right; I just have a problem thinking that Cotropia could be that dumb, having seen Zhabilov's operations for years before that. You'd have to be really blind to miss the SPAC risks and probabilities. More than half of us on this board predicted almost exactly what happened, and we're another life away from it in distance. You may remember MAGS and I laughing how bad it had gotten to be by July of last year, and it sucked before that.
We all knew the news about the dividend delay confirmed our worst fears about SAGA for good.
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You may have something there, can't be certain. But, although Harry never said the IP was gone, CCC did put out communications they had sole ownership and the IP's and that they are assigned now to both Adnexus and MABS-Tech.
I don't think they'd dare publish those announcements if they were not true, especially with the heat Harry's getting scorched with now.
I have no idea how long the SEC was investigating. In fact, I'd bet this was done rather quickly and all ran from March 2024 to now. That would keep Charles free, if he did indeed help or direct this matter, from any legal conflict of interest charges and any confidentiality violations. To me, this probably all got underway by 4/1/2024, and culminated in the SEC's announcement 48 hours ago.
My best bet. If Charles did indeed lay it all out for the SEC, as I suspect he may have, this would be an easy case to 'crush it' in a record short amount of time.
Calling anyone in the SEC is not harmful, do what your gut tells you. I just think Charles had to be at the root of it, for where and how the case stands today. I don't really think there is any way in heck the SEC was investigating or monitoring this during the SPAC failure. I think it all got lit on fire somewhere between 1/1/2024, - 4/102024. OR as early as 11/2023, if Charles went along to exit later with IP's in hand, and, planned it out early. With a gangster in the office next door (figuratively) at ENZC, a long-term exit plan may have been their best way to go.
My best guestimate to date.
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Jack, there is a possible out-of-court settlement proposition we're putting in front of CCC, 3 options to it as well. If they'll discuss it, I'll have you updated all of the way.
That won't take long at all, and if they're open to it, it will protect their butts once and for all as an ENZC final matter.
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You don't think Charles should have vetted a major chunk of his company and his IP's being sold off illegally? I don't care what age he is, that's pure incompetence or him planning his exit in advance.
Hope that's all it was Wick, the way you say it, but for the last 7 months, my worst suspicions have been coming true.
Ohh, you're right on this one, all members of CCC endorsed the deal at one point or another. All of them. They were either stupid or biding their time for a planned exit.
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The defrauding of shareholders does not have to begin with the SEC, if we have to file our suit, we're filing with a Texas State District Court and State authorities. Defrauding consumers, of any type, is not just handled by the SEC.
And our fraud complaint type, has not even been brought to the SEC's attention yet, other than their complaint email account. Another reason I believe Charles managed this case being brought forth against Harry from the start. He's mitigated the CCC protection, lack of exposure going to Adnexus, so far and created the timing to ease up an Adnexus public launch.... maybe.
Just IMHO, but Vegas odds would be really good on that scenario.
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I wasn't sure of that myself Wick. There was one PR Charles released bragging, to some extent, his pleasure in seeing the SAGA deal executed in Oct-Nov of last year, and didn't seem to distance himself from it until February of the following year.
Just from off the top of my head, maybe I'm wrong, but I certainly remember an enthusiastic endorsement of the deal from Charles early last Fall, maybe as early as July 2023. (When he signed off on it to complete the paperwork.)
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I wasn't sure of that myself Wick. There was one PR Charles released bragging, to some extent, his pleasure in seeing the SAGA deal executed in Oct-Nov of last year, and didn't seem to distance himself from it until February of the following year.
Just from off the top of my head, maybe I'm wrong, but I certainly remember an enthusiastic endorsement of the deal from Charles early last Fall, maybe as early as July 2023. (When he signed off on it to complete the paperwork.)
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It's still in a non-binding letter of intent from a funding source that's very questionable. I do think Adnexus will be public soon, but that PR is not significant just yet.
Like I said, they either supplied some form of evidence clearing them of active fault in the matter, or CC got an immunity deal for turning him in. Probably used both options there just to be certain. Lawyers don't risk their well-being without layering on every form of protection they can think of. And I still don't see any way Charles name is left out as a defendant, unless he aided the investigation from the start, or turned in state's evidence once he found out an investigation is going on.
For my money, I'd bet he was at the helm from the start.
My bet is a limited immunity deal, or they provided some form of proof they knew nothing about it until too late to stop it.
In either case, they'd not be prosecuted. Would be star witnesses though.
We might be able to make Harry a star witness on our back-end case here, if CCC does not work things out with us. Days of the Twilight Zone guys....
Like I said, it spoke volumes that CC's name is not on the case filing. I could see Chandra and JC getting out on technicalities of unprovable claims, but Charles had his name on a LOT of stuff. To me, it's just a situation of 'doing the math'. The SEC is usually pretty rigid in their procedures.
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Still bashing on 50-50 odds kid, you keep confirming my points about your posts.
The CBDW thing, I think is doomed to fail also, but I believe Chandra has other funding efforts underway, that he thinks will cover gaps once they go public.
Whether he's successful or not, who knows. I agreed the appearance of a Cannibis-AI-Chatbot mfg funding this is a sick joke, but SinglePoint may be in charge of that extension. No telling right now.
You are so right, more than you know maybe. I remember the Camelot group, had some other scams working the pinks since my first spotting them backing an alleged Hollywood film studio company that changed tickers about 4 times before they were run off the OTC. Harry's connections go so damn deep into the criminal side of stock frauds it turns out; he needs to be locked away hard.
But, he did have one legitimate product push, and then got the mABS CCC crew to add more legitimacy to future endeavors. Problem is, to save their own skins, I believe CCC knew this at least a year plus before the split, and did not report it for reasons not entirely healthy, if you catch my drift.
Review the evidence claims for the charges, the SEC had inside help, IMHO.
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My bet is, Charles turned them in, with the help of some key investor he knew would go after them. There's a lot to this I think CC would have had to provide, to keep this big a thorough SEC investigation uncovered and quiet, until the public filing hit a District Court of Law in NYC.
Only some real, safe, insider info, IMHO, could direct this big a court filing onto an OTC:PINK company. It's about the only way the SEC takes on a case against the OTC defendant, when provided a primrose path and a ton of easy evidence, lining it all up for them for a big case on a little, fat ratty thief like Zhabilov.
I told a lot of folks here, the SEC will act if you get it all in front of them with a big enough dollar figure attached. Zhabilov practicing business internationally probably lit major fuses as well to make him a priority. This fast pace I see reflected in the filling, demanding a court case be expedited too, if you saw that.
Charles in Charge, not good for business, but probably great at revenge in court.
This acts as more food for our case too,, against CCC, for a different case of fraud, unless one other shoe drops that could. I still think it won't stop us getting a successful hearing. I do think getting any cash out of ENZC is impossible, making Harry's jail time more unavoidable. He can't make $93 million in restitution, so jail time is face-front for the fat man.
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We did check your history, nothing but fairly recent bashing from day 1, and it obviously was not all a share-selling scheme. What is this, your 6th time not reading the information carefully? Adnexus does have the goods, ENZC had them, Zhabilov reselling shares illegally does not make the entire company history a share selling scheme. You can' split good from bad, which happened, if your scenario was true.
CCC isn't perfect, quite dumb for their pedigrees actually, when it comes to business, but they're surviving and not named as defendants for this exact reason. (And probably CC turning states evidence over to SEC attorneys, after a key investor went after Zhabilov, the only way the SEC could have caught wind of this.) A true share selling scheme from day 1, had to include Joe and Charles Cotropia, and Chandra in it all the time for the same purpose. They had to have proof of their 'innocence' up front for the SEC, or you can guarantee your arse that at least CC would have been named as a defendant, being Harry's CEO for over 4 years, plus a board member.
If you know anything about stocks and legal investigations, you'd know that.
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We're still gathering info on this case, but I'll assure you its fatal for Zhabilov. He and his funders, if there's one left, and I don't think he's had any funding since 1/1/2024, can't pull him out in any way.
You can bet everything he owns in ENZC, along with his trouble-partners will be liquidated, probably in a cashless fashion by the SEC, he'll be out and under, probably in jail for at least 3 years on a 15-year sentence or more. (Using a comparable statute from the old SpongeTech case back about 14 years back.)
No way he covers a $93 million dollar charge assortment, and extra penalties claimed in that filing. Jail time is probable, and since he's atop the target heap on this case, he can't really plea-deal out for anything. He's the one they want, rightfully so, if I can say so myself.
No way he retains any ENZC anything, that's the first thing this case will take care of. Prior to a conviction, the SEC will probably get a successful injunction filed to freeze out ENZC operations, stock purchases and sales included, for at least a temporary time. If you want to sell now, be prepared for a broker's message advising possible delays in closing the sale. It's going to be messy for quite a while.
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As I remember, he was all over the place on EZNC, unlike TradingG, who was trying to tear it apart from the first day he landed on this page. I could be wrong, I blocked his dopey @$$ back in June, I think
Anyhow, with yesterday's major development on ENZC (The SEC case against Harry Zhabilov, and yes, break out your black rose bouquets for his funeral, sounds like jail is in his near future....) ENZC will be smoke and maybe permanently deciding on the SEC disposition at the end of the Zhabilov case.Â
The Zhabilov case does not affect our case against CCC, and I feel a bit smarter now for following my instinct and not naming Harry yet in our legal action, but will have to soon. I suspect CCC is already involved in this case in a central fashion, but they are not named as any kind of target or defendant. This speaks volumes to me, because there's only 2 ways that could happen with their past ENZC history.
So, we're still proceeding with our case against CCC.
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Well, we can ask about that too, the lawyers may have some advice. If you're still holding those shares, you have a credible claim, if you sold off, you have a claim but less of a priority. This is not my opinion, but a legal point, unfortunately. If it were me, I'd print up, in PDF digital format, a broker's record of all the shares you had purchased, by transaction date, of ENZC. Save that without any record of selling it off, watch your date range when you print that record up on your hard drive.
Save it for when and if we can get an out-of-court settlement agreement out of CCC, and if they refuse that, turn it in for a court record of defrauded shareholders later. If they go to court with us, they'll have a class action to deal with that may be able to include you in it.
I can't promise this, especially in light of yesterday's SEC ACTION AGAINST HARRY ZHABILOV, (told you ignorant bashers that the SEC can and will take on OTC companies when the numbers get high enough) since the SEC, as part of this case, and in my opinion, they have Harry by the b@ll$, could liquidate and dissolve ENZC into oblivion, or they could forcefully relegate it down to new ownership of the next shareholders in line, aka, CCC.
We just don't know at this point, but we see some indicators that CCC, while not named as a defendant or target in this case, are probably already involved in it.
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I-Glow was one of the pumpers.... hmmm.... He misses Mommy...
WTF is your problem? If you don't own any of the stock, you won't be bothered about it. Losing in the PINKS is fine and of course common, but sitting back on a Hunglo arse and doing nothing when you've been illegally defrauded by a public company, is just being a bashing pu$$y. In this case it could be a major securities fraud case, and it can be prosecuted in the State's courts, county courts even, it does not have to start with the SEC.
But then, the uneducated know not of this.
GLT the rest of you all.
Hey Rocco,
Thanks. Our registered mail tracking says the certified letters should all be received to the addresses we sent them by no later than this Wednesday morning, probably by tomorrow. So, they'll have the 10 days from tomorrow or Wednesday to respond accordingly. Otherwise, we let the lawyers move forward.
To EVERYONE, we've given them a smart proposal to get out of this mess that shouldn't cost them a dime if they handle it right. With a new lower count of existing stockholders in ENZC prior to 5/30, who can be involved in this action, we've devised a share trade-out to restore share value to about what everyone put into it, or close over at Adnexus Biotech. We see this as the safest shareholder remedy that CCC could agree to. We're prepared to give them 2 versions of that, to see what out-of-court option they may prefer to restore the old ENZC shareholders with something of worth.
If they don't respond in a reasonable manner, we let the class action move forward. The website for the case is a couple of weeks off, so patience is all we can do at this point, carefully covering all of the legal marks.
If we file for the hearing, CCC's negotiating power will be cut a good bit and our response will be to go to court. No negotiations unless they are serious and prompt to the matter at hand.
As far as I know, in both labs, they had been working on Clone3 and Clone7 mABS product testing on both human and animals. ENZC lab was doing the human cell testing, and the Bioclinetics lab was doing the same tests but on animals. ITV-1 tests were only done in a lesser schedule with combining with other agents and samples of other compounds for better results and efficacy. Some of that came from Chandra, some came from the management team at Texas A&M's Preclinical Trials Center. They only know what they were told. I only know what those two parties told me.
While they had the first Clone 3/7 products for some time, refining the process and the mABS formula themselves, takes a lot of testing and time, because you can't send it off for Samsung Biologics production if you have it wrong, or in any way less effectual than it could be, so you test the hell out of it, before you commit the funds to Samsung for final production of the mABS to go to trials. As I understood it later, most testing was completed by the time the management break-up occurred in March of 2024, so timing was decent for the CCC group to leave with their IP's and research pretty much done.
Allegedly, they were about ready for volunteer trials in South America, when Adnexus had its first website up. The Clone3 Patent award and the Gilead licensing partnership was also in the wind, and if both hit, the lightweights Adnexus and CBDW turn solid and are off to the races. I get a gut feeling this may happen too. 3 of Chandra's favorite pumpers over on 'X' all came out declaring, on X, that the Clone3 patent award would surely hit by end of 2024,. What kind of idiot claims that, even on a proposed patent schedule, unless someone they know tipped them off? (Ahem, Gaurav....) If Clone3's patent award and Gilead's licensing both come in before end of 2024, the game is changed forever. Only a massive trials failure would stop them then.
Or Chandra has them believing a lot of well-orchestrated bunk. Most of us feel that Chandra does have the goods, and lacks most of the ethics. We'll see.
Does not change their issues or liability in defrauding previous shareholders though.
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That was line one of the fraud case. 2, then the exact same IP's and ownership and operations even, move from one company set of investors solicited and paid for, to another company leaving the investors behind, for soliciting a new group of investors. That crosses all sorts of fraud against the investors and a possible higher case of full securities fraud. 3, Cotropia contradicted himself months apart as to the Sagaliam deal progress and results. Fraud all over.
On one of Chandra's recent phone conversations, was telling some folks that ENZC shareholder money "only paid for Disease Products", not spent on the clone3/7 viral products they were working on. That will add to a fraud count too, its misdirection on Chandra's part. He's indicating that all investor dollars Harry used were spent on only the failed IPF-Immune junk they dropped on Walmart and even less stores in Bulgaria with the help of Rosetta, LLC. If that's the case, then CCC is as incompetently looking the other way while Harry robbed the store. IPF-Immune was the only item they had that could be defined as "Disease only".
Go ahead Dr. Chandra, tell me I figured that one wrong.
Unbelievable but true.
Thanks, I got them both. One was a PDF, the other I linked over to the large, original version on Accesswire, and printed it to PDF from there. It shows the links back to the ENZC website, so no objection as source material.
This is how we create our case, create our case, create our case, this is how..... blah, blah....
GLTY
PS: I'm still thinking their claim about Gilead is for real, otherwise it would be really risky to even name them, as Chandra did to many folks, including I'm certain, his good buddies over at Sanctum, who've been involved loosely with the old ENZC business since 2021, that I can track.
Gilead has also been looking for a slam-dunk way to get back into the mABS success pipeline since their previous mABS attempts failed and got defunded a while back. With their leading HIV treatment in a combination with Adnexus mABS, they have a cure, a strong one by my humble estimation. I'd lay odds Gilead is awaiting mABS samples now to test with, before making a final decision to license with Adnexus. That would explain a lot of their enthusiasm at CBDW and Adnexus, while still not having much of any operating capital to worry about. That Gilead process may be farther along than I've described too.
Add to this, Chandra's pumpers over on 'X', claiming that the Clone3 patent award should be done by end of year. (As though their favorite Doctor tipped them off) No way even a pumper sticks their necks that far out, collectively, claiming a patent award date holds firm. If Gilead and the patent both come through, SinglePoint/CBDW funds them, for some control and massive profits. Off to the races, and if Chandra gets his way it seems, no back debt of ENZC shareholders to accommodate for either.
That last sentence kicks off the legal action, and we're not waiting for events to transpire either.
Those puzzle pieces fit, may also explain the lack of restraint on Chandra's ego and arrogance of late. We'll see. Called my shot there.
GLTA
CBDW might have legs, SinglePoint, which still has money, is keeping a tight lid on this. But on its own, yeah, 1606 Corp/CBDW$ is just a shell right now, giving a recent, 26-year-old college grad something to do and fantasize about. Maybe the kid has potential, but I suspect the October call I'll be on listening to them, will be more entertainment than substance for me. Coding AI Chat-bots these days can be done by any amateur coder if you just get a subscription (Cheap) for Azure AI or ChatGPT tools.
Drais now too? Sad.... I think blind pumpers piss me off more than blind bashers. At least most Bashers were pissed off about something rational to begin with. Blind Pumpers just like to be suck-ups and boiler-room profiteers -- Much more sleazy.
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Completely agree SS, our minds have fully converged here. Please download copies of what you just had in the links. (For safekeeping. some items could be deleted, even on those boards later). Our new website organizing all of this will have an upload page for depositing evidentiary materials with your comments included. This is exactly the input we'd love from everyone involved.
Convert everything if not already a PDF, into a PDF or JPEG file for use on the new site. Attorneys and litigants will be offered that as a resource to come up to speed on all facets of the potential, and now probable, case to be filed.
One last note, our legal notice to CCC did offer a last chance to respond or talk about a positive solution and avoid court, but based upon past history, its 50-50 odds Charles will choose the better path. Sorry I did not get you the link on a PM this AM, I missed your name in the pages for a quick note.
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Thanks, let's hope it gets us somewhere. Maybe other parties with more legal help will join us.