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good morning all
fools bounce?
not if you got in at .0005 and got out before it started to slide.
im one of the biggest outspoken critics of watson, his circle of scammers and this company, but i would hardly call it a "fools bounce", depending on how you played it.
this isnt a long play in my opinion. never has been.
why not cash in and ride the wave even though we know (or think) its a farce?
i have to admit the signing of todd has given them a smidgen of credibilty, but only a smidgen.
its hard to resist the opportunity to make money, even for a person like me who knows what this is all about.
totally agree nob
i think this announcement coupled with some good business sense might send this onward and upward.
i think my analogy is true. its 4th and goal, watsons the quarterback and he can either score the touchdown and go home with the prom queen or fumble and get stuffed in his locker by his teamates.
we'll see where it goes
everyone has to agree
this is the first real, quality pr he has released.
as a rule of thumb the stock tanks after every pr.
i think with todays announcement we break precedent and see a steady climb.
in all honesty i think it didnt go higher because most people had their jaw hanging going "whaaaaat"???
the lateness in the day was also a big factor.
watch for the climb to .005 tomorrow
then penny by mid-end of next week.
good afternoon
glad my decision to ride the bounce is paying off.
celebrity is a "c" list celebrity but good enough
my only problem is who is going to see her endorsing the product when there is nothing pointing anyone to the page?
now that i am invested this nitwit scheming scamming watson better do this right.
looks like we all have a good chance to make some ching here on top of what we already made.
so mr watson, 4th and goal.
are you going to fumble or cross the goal line?
answer -
i could sit here and pick the stock/company apart until the cows come home and benefit no one or ride the bounce when it dropped and make some cash.
i rode the bounce.
dont get me wrong, i stand by everything i said before.
but i saw an opportunity, saw this was going to bounce back and took advantage.
money is good.
in fact i love money.
i couldnt pass up an opportunity to make some.
this is only the first bounce imo
we still have a few more to go.
good afternoon all
i was one of the biggest, outspoken critics of this stock a few weeks ago.
well, i shut up, bought in and here we are.
i still think this company and its ceo stink to high heaven.
but theres money to be made and its better to be on the winning side than trying to save the investment world from scammers - thats how everyone loses.
making money is what this is all about. why not zip it and make some cash? i did. oh boy did i.
up 40% ?
still down 85% from when watson opened his lying mouth the last time.
wait till the next round of pr's
two huge bogus "pump it up" prs coming and no one is going to buy it.
everytime watson opens his mouth this tanks. next time expect .0001 with no bid. mark my words.
somehow .0008 is good after seeing .0072 less than 2 months ago when he started his bogus pr campaign.
i have faith in watson. he will drive this down again.
if the next 2 pr's are as blockbuster as the previous ones expect no bid @ .0001 real quick.
no one is buying their lies anymore.
they couldnt pump this if they tried, word is out. this is a bogus play desgned to take your money by doing nothing but selling shares and releasing garbage pr's.
theyre not building a company. you cant with zero advertising. a whole year has gone by and nothing. the only thing theyve advertised is "buy shares" through bogus pr's. thats it.
what have they been waiting for to advertise? what?!
theyve been buying time to sell the shares they need to before shutting the doors and going on to the next scheme/scam/investment opportunity.
that may be so
but not to call anyone out here, i dont take anyones word on anything on any board.
secondly, they may have something set up, but that doesnt mean its going to happen. they could have said we intend to, it doesnt make it so.
one would have to question why it would take so long to set this up? why did they wait a year to market this? why? too busy selling shares, thats why.
i see a huge increase in a/s coming real soon. then probably a 1 for every 1000 r/s giving all the investors a nice good night kiss. that is of course after him, larry and stephen rake the investors over the coals a little more. lol
true
but there was also press releases saying the shareholders would be pleased with the acquisitions and the added shareholder value too. this lead to a big anticipation pump that died when he made the announcements. his plan backfired. everyone knew the acquisitions were nothing but paper companies designed just to be acquired and pump this.
then comes the revenues, and all he gave was bogus, hyper-inflated "projections" he dreamed up and hoped would pump the stock and guess what? it didnt. it actually made it go down.
fact is, everytime this guy opens his mouth the stock tanks. why? because seasoned investors know hes full of garbage, thats why. a big talkin slick lying scheming out for himself,..well i could go on but you get the picture.
sure he's delivered on some of what he said-
he said there would be acquistions, and there were. to bad it was bogus companies that only exist on paper in his lawyers filing cabinet he acquired from his accomplices, ummm, i mean friends, ummm, business associates.
he said there would be marketing, and he signed a marketing firm. too bad it was his wifes overnight startup with a nonfunctioning website that got the deal. im sure she is being paid in shares that were already dumped into investors hands. just like the shares paid for the acquisitions too.
and the deal set to start in june, i bet you a box of real cubans and the finest cognac none of that happens. up for a good bet?
please clarify
in this conversation watson said who owned stock? carnes?
clarification
"carnes is not involved in grdo" -
this has not been proven or disproven. as i said i would love to uncover the proof he is. but as of now, no, there is nothing linking him to grdo other than -
watson(grdo), carnes(sgls) and powlizc(lgbs) all have been on past endeavors together.
they all use the same addresses for their schemes, ummm, business ventures.
they all use the same attorney. you know the one, moran. the one who also owned one of the "acquisitions". shes the legal brains behind this operation.
i would bet my left arm carnes/signature leisure will get a huge FAT consulting contract out of this, some how, some way. just like he did with watsons last scheme, micro mammoth solutions. legends business group (powlicz) already got one.
thats how carnes plays into these deals. his bogus company gets big fat consulting contracts with watsons or powlicz bogus companies. thats how he gets your money. they give him a check to do nothing. payment for being the brains behind setting up the operation/scheme.
watson is just a puppet for carnes. dont kid yourself.
it did run
your right
until the investors realized this was all about watson selling shares and doing nothing else but sell shares.
how can you build a web based business with no ads any where on the web? please answer that.
over a year has gone by since its inception and not one ad, link or anything.
then the pump came. news coming! news coming!
and the news was nothing but questionable garbage. and stinky questionable garbage at that.
not only was the news a huge let down, you couldnt even verify it because all the companies they acquired were set up by people in watsons circle for the sole purpose of being acquired.
they brought nothing to the table. they had zero brand recognition. and yes of course, they insisted on being bought out with shares. how interesting.
you look at a 90% drop as good? up 2000% then down 90% because the ceo opened his mouth and what came out of it is still stinking up our air, how is that good for the investors?
please clarify
im not sure what i am "trying" to do other than point out the obvious when it comes to this company and the problems associated with it.
this was much much higher when i joined this board, so if you think im looking for cheap shares your mistaken. i wouldve gotten them by now. its down about 90% from when i got on here. it doesnt get much cheaper.
fact is any prudent investor would smell this sham from a mile away after seeing all the bogus pr's and nonsense this group of characters behind guard dog has been up to.
the most minimal amount of dd would say, whoa! stop! dont touch this with a ten foot pole.
just my opinion.
until substantial
real, verified news comes this is going no where.
wow. .0007, its still down 90% plus since everyone figured out this was a bogus play
still no news, still no financials, still no subscriber numbers
and BIGGEST OF ALL STILL NO ADVERTISING
that is until they set up shop in that online mall lmao and watsons wife kicks off the marketing blitz out of her closet LMAO
pullllease
"rewards mall program" i think i gave myself a hernia laughing so hard at that one.
online malls. are you serious? you think this is legit?
what exactly is an online mall anyway? nonsense. pure nonsense.
and why would it take until mid june to put something together for this "online mall rewards program"? this is so laughable its sad.
how can anyone
take anything watson says seriously after the string of ridiculous pr's hes released??
this has been a sham designed to be in the business of selling shares from day one.
too much money spent on selling to investors and zero on selling to customers adds up to only one thing.
to make a statement like expect a huge pps spike is just nonsense. pure, utter nonsense.
lets me guess - they will announce the acquisitions of regional commerce services or id ninja or id baron, or quite possibly all three, hoping to get one more good one over on unsuspecting investors before packing this scheme up and heading onto the next.
how much do you want to bet this will play out - they will announce news in two prs right? i bet one will be they are doing more acquisitions and the next will be announcing the bogus companies they acquired.
they put money into putting those bogus websites into play so guard dog will have to follow through and "acquire" them. my guess will be for stock, at the acquisitions request of course.
i cant believe anyone is buying this story. pure nonsense. give us two weeks to reach deeper in your pockets, thats what theyre really asking, lets be honest.
very bold statement
indeed
to bad he (watson) has zero credibility at this point or investors might believe it.
and when i say zero credibility, i mean zero.
he has completely killed this with his bogus pr's, acquisitions, etc
the real turning point was the garbage pr about his wifes company. im still laughing at how bogus that was.
i think it would be more accurate to say
watson is the culprit
no news, no info, nothing
questionable moves at every angle
no advertising or marketing in any way shape or form
stock tanks out and hes mum
blaming the mms for this is like blaming cow for the fox stealing the hens.
thats what i find most amusing here. blaming the mm's for the stock being in the toilet pps wise.
this is overvalued considering all the questions that have come up and the lack of information.
the only blame here is on watson, creating demand for huge news and expectations then delivering nil.
put the blame squarely where it belongs: on watson
i need to comment on this post
and this definetly pertains to guard dogs credibility
"I firmly believe the stock will run again as has been seen by many other pinkys deemed a scam and fraud by all participants (BBDA perfect example before new owner)."
did you know that bbda was renovo holdings prior to being the new company under new ownership?
did you know that the previous regime was stephen carnes and company?
did you know that they used 1375 semoran blvd cassleberry florida as their headquarters?
that address just happens to be the same address for legends business group, the brains behind guard dog and the "acquisitions"?
this also happens to be the same address for stephen carnes latest scheme, sgls, better known as signature leisure?
signature leisure took a big chunk of change for "consulting fees" from mims before it went belly up. mims, or micro mammoth, was the last business watson was building before leaving shareholders holding the bag.
1375 semoran blvd casselberry florida seems to be a popular address for quite a few questionable stocks.
but, i guess this all just a bunch of huge coincidences again, right?
carnes is not involved, they just share office space, the same attorney and their names appear on multiple filings together but its nothing but a huge coincidence, right?
and the fact every stock these guys are involved tanks after being pumped is just another huge coincidence, right?
THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL.
either that or they simply hold the record for most coincidences in all of recorded world history.
ignoring what?
ok you said he said. no offense, but as i said, the last time i took anyones word on anything i ended up without a car and wallet, stranded in vegas. the story behind it is for another time.
why should anyone here take his word on anything? hes done nothing but blow smoke up everyones kilt.
he's hyped and pumped the pending news before and when the time came all the investors got was a manure flavored lollipop.
if i thought for one second there was a glimmer of hope i might actually buy into it with my finger on the sell button. any run that comes is going to be short anyway.
blink and you'll miss it.
wall of 4's
up next
yikes, this may drop down 1 or 2 ticks before the end of the day.
wheres watson? not a peep. too busy counting everyones money
the difference is
the info i put out is readily available for anyone to look up themselves
the info the pro-watson legion post is on a "take my word for it" basis.
last time i took someones word on something my car and wallet were gone in the morning. no thanks.
broken records?
"buy, get those cheapies"
"buy, on the dip"
"news is coming"
"load up!!!"
"smack that ask!!!"
"huge, mega news is coming, this is a steal, get 'em now".
seems to be a lot of repetition here. who's been financially hurt by mine?
maybe guard dog should be in the business of selling broken records.
sorry, i couldnt resist before i signed off.
i see
.0003-.0004
in todays forecast
sorry about so many posts in a row. no time to stick around
enjoy your days
i'll chime in later
news flash james
no one has been pleased but you and your cohorts
fact is, everyone who listened to you lost money.
well, that is except you and your accomplices, i mean partners or what ever you call them.
im sure carnes, powliszc, moran, benshay and the rest of those you recruited into this web of deception are doing just fine.
karma, james.
better men than you have tried to escape it and failed miserably.
some day you will be in the same boat as those you duped, multiplied times ten.
past experience
dictates its nothing more than hot air.
remember how "pleased" everyone would be when the acquisitions were done, according to watson lol.
buying time to dump the rest of that 300 million shares he shuffled when the ta was gagged, thats all hes doing imo.
hoping for an anticipation run in the mean time.
its amazing how faithful some people are in this. im not directing this at anyone person but jeez its like taking candy from a baby in here.
we are all assuming
the 300 mill increase were restricted
know one knows for sure because the ta was gagged.
no one knows where they went, if they were sold or held or what.
still think the ta being gagged was to protect the integrity of the acquisitions?
it was to hide where those shares went and how. thats why.
for all we know the reason behind the buys outnumbering the sells is because the buys are eating up those 300 mill shares someone is methodically dumping.
no one wanted to listen when i said all of this would happen. now its happening and everyone is scrambling to make sense of it. oh well.
you should be skeptical
i agree. i think watson is selling anyone who calls land under a bridge with these claims.
two weeks. pulllleease. they need more time to dump what they have left before this totally craps out at .0001
a futile attempt at an anticipation pump. just like they did before the big news a few months back. then, boom, it blew up in everyones face.
has it occurred to anyone these guys are professionals, and know how to work the system and you?
he doesnt know what vert is doing, but vert just happens to be the biggest, well known dillution machine in the industry. and he has still yet to explain where the extra 300 million went to when the ta was gagged.
just another big huge coincidence.
nob, did you ask him how proud mr carnes is of his work, or did you forget that? nothing personal, but i think your taking his nonsense hook, line and sinker.
all theyre doin is milking and squeezing every penny they can out of this. imo
please, do share
im curious to know
good morning.
any questions you may have on this i am sure anyone here will be glad to get you the info you ask for.
having a brother serving in baghdad i understand how you cant get return calls over there.
one solution, skype. it only works when your pc is on but my brother put it on his laptop and set designated times for us to call.
its worked so far. if you set it up and explain your situation maybe they can call you through the skype service at a certain time so you can answer.
if you read my posts you know what my thoughts are on this stock. do your own research and draw your own conclusions, dont let anyone here sway your decisions. things dont look good right now so be wary of the stock, the cheerleaders, the naysayers and everything in between.
good luck, gods speed and thank you for your service to our country.
better questions to ask
why is there not one ad anywhere on gods green earth for this company after a year?
better yet ask why 300 million shares were sold into the market while the ta was gagged.
even better yet ask why he "acquired" companies that by all appearances only exist on paper, created for the sole purpose of acquiring them and pump the stock.
you might want to ask why he pr's his wifes company doing business with them when the website was less than one day old - and still not till this day functional i might add.
might also want to ask him why there are no quartely reports, financials, subscriber numbers or anything at all investors can bite into.
and lastly, ask him how proud stephen carnes is of the job hes doing bilking the investors.
im sure stephen has a big FAT consulting contract thats going to bury this "company" in red ink. thats his m/o for getting shares, its payment for "consulting".
i would be shocked
if there were anymore pr's other than the one saying they are out of business
if there are it will be a few last attempts to get a few more people to cough up money. thats about it.
anyone call investor relations lately?
did don calm your nerves?
when your intention
from the get go was to dupe investors and not get any customers, that makes it the s. word. im not sure if we can say it because of what was said yesterday by the mod.
this is all about intentions.
if his intentions were to build a business he wouldve tried to get customers.
if his intention was to steal money from investors, legally or not, then he wouldve only tried to lure in investors.
you do the math.
they have a real product, sure.
a product that they dont advertise. the only ads they do is to lure in more investors. thats it.
when you go after investors with vigor and zeal and ignore customers, what does that spell out to you?
.0005
if you look back i said this was going to happen. i am not, and i repeat not, going to make that i told you so post like i said i would when everyone was tearing me apart for pointing out the obvious.
i feel bad, real bad.
i hope those that got duped make it back times 10 in other places.
those who knew better, and you know who you are, well, i'll just stop short and leave it at that.
dirty, just dirty.
i have been watching this
for a little while now. while i am not invested i know several people who are. i found out early to stay away.
needless to say they are a little disappointed.
watching and seeing how these characters have operated i am seriously contemplating filing an anonymous complaint with the sec.
in my opinion this has been nothing but a share selling operation from day one.
i was going to give it some time to see if he actually delivered on any of the things he was saying but it looks like the game is over and shareholders are now bagholders.
for all of you have called me a basher, do i still sound like one? bashers hit and run. ive been around for a while. didnt want to see anyone get duped because thats what i said was going to happen.
no reason to believe
he wont come through?
where are the numbers? revenues? subscribers? that hasnt happened yet, and when/if it does will they be audited, proven numbers? or more of watsons creative imagination?
have you done any dd on his past ventures at all? and who his business partners/accomplices were?
how can this "company" sit back for a year and do nothing but sell shares and give away shares and somehow most dont see this as a red flag?
basic, cheap advertising to gain subscribers wasnt even done. not even a link/traffic exchange, which is free!
but big pr's full of hot air and nonsense were dumped into the public domain and for what reason? other than to lure in investors to buy up that 300+ million they showered the market with while the ta was gagged? its been a great 6 months for vert.
the web pages werent even coded so the search engine spiders could at least list them if they found them by accident for petes sake. they didnt even include keywords in the meta tags.
i wont even get into the technical issues with his wifes website. horrible.
good morning
i wouldnt take anyones word on this board about anything on this stock right now. myself included.
do your own homework, in other words contact the ta yourself
no offense to anyone so please dont be offended.
this is reaching the every man for himself stage and i would strongly advise looking into things for yourself.
you have no way of confirming anything with the ta about grdo other than contacting them yourself.
here is the problem
first of all everything you said was correct.
now the problem
wait six months to a year to advertise?
rapid growth? how? no numbers, as far as the investor is concerned the "acquisitions" brought nothing to the table and only exist on paper.
companies created for the sole purpose of being exactly that, an acquisition.
and in this great big world what are the odds of all of them existing within 20-30 miles of each other?
secondly, how is it ethical or even legal for the attorney he used to set this public company up to then go and sell him a "company" as part of the acquisitions? does this make any sense at all?
it is my opinion that this is nothing but a bogus company set up for the sole purpose of selling shares.
it is very complex and somehow legal. they have an attorney on board who i am sure knows the legalities of how to do this and get away with it.
they have all done this before and not one has seen the inside of jail cell for anything related that i know of. so someone knows something.
perhaps one of us should just end all the specualtion and go to the sec with our concerns and asked that they be looked into? if they are up and up then so be it. the funny thing is even if this on the up and up anyone who is invested should really be concerned with how its being run.
i have a funny feeling if the sec investigated this their lucky streak would come to an end. just my opinion.