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The price action, how fast the asks were being chased..
But then again, it is LQMT>.
large bids keep chasing.
something is up, someone knows something..
No, the stock price is reality. And unless I was living in a clam shell with Spongebob, Li never said one word to shareholders. Except at ASHM.
I think my reality is in tact.
The only thing that can change this is...
transparency of LQMT and open communication...
As we all see the technology open up globally, with 106c not patented(for some reason, the way I understand it), an explanation of the PLA would be a first step from our new CEO. Or even better a word from our last CEO who never spoke to LQMT USA.
I wouldn't call it an attack... constructive criticism maybe..
Its based on more than just hope though.
Accountability is key. And shouldn't be negatively construed - reality bites sometimes. I know AMM/BMG is going to go big. The question we all have, since Li hasn't spoken one word to LQMT shareholders in now 6 years, and many of the Mainland facets materializing, what does this mean for us?
Sorry, but I don't believe critical thinking and accountability should be thought of as negative.
The money folks have invested is real.
There is only one way to prove this wrong. Revenue. But all we get is more proof that the material is being used and our revenue isn't there.
Josh is on the reddit board and has done an excellent job in proving the material is in use,vastly and widely but little to back up LQMT is involved with license fees. But on the reddit board, its highly censored so any negative flow gets you kicked out so its hard to get any information or sentiment from the revenue side. The question that never gets answered is how do we get paid? Who ultimately has LQMT's interest for shareholders? What was the PLA designed to do? Clearly we know Li's infrastructure is being built out - but we haven't heard anything from him since the purchase of his shares. And I even brought up the scenario proposed in this thesis around CCP.
The only thing that keeps me wondering is the less then 50% control when it was bought...and we are all anticpating/waiting/seeing proof for Apple to use it so we can see the light. However, to get to $1, we need $100m in revenue.
Is this even possible anymore?
I agree with this statement. If Apple confirms, and more specifically, a contract via 8-k comes through, lights out!
I agree. This is beef, finally.
And whats great is its not a whale. I say that because we are hitting singles/doubles with tangible agreements, no NDA bs, etc. etc..
real deal contracts.
Well, it is proprietary to LQMT/Yihao maybe. Ie; not many places they can go, so maybe.
But Apple typically says - deliver me 100million of these for xyz price. Those numbers give a CFO a sandbox. And the COO heartburn at same time.
That part is Yihao is not obligated to have more than 10% reserved for LQMT is the way I read it.. Ie; they will only make sure 10% of capacity is there for LQMT.
I doubt Apple would go for cost + though... but the + part is not in the agreement but omitted..
I was trying to figure that out. I am not entirely sure - but I do believe that they must be related. Even if the terms are different in timeframe, they can be canceled anytime. Not sure they just kept the mfg agreement going longer to ensure any "backlog" or inventory build after ATJ agreement expires. Almost like, well, order it up and lets see - this allows Yihao to keep mfg.. just a thought. Timing is interesting for it not to be related..
ok, just reading through the 8-k, 1.01 - main "beef" of how much potential...
Yihao:
Cost + . So, this means, cost + profit(pre-determined). Yihao makes profit. And LQMT, it sounds, receives a "profit" after selling the unit to LMG(Or ATJ). Ultimately, it sounds like LQMT stays in driver seat as selling agent (IE; you want a product, we can get it to you). So LQMT should, if I read it correctly, profit on the sale of the OEM.
And
LMG/ATJ:
3% net sales prices for the product goes to LMG (Liquidmetal Gold Subsidiary), which LQMT is owner.
Question is: How much of an owner is LQMT in LMG?
There are many other terms and conditions on quantity, scaled pricing, decreasing costs. etc.
But, the bottom line, this is beef. This is tangible, evidence of royalties/revenue.
If Apple, maybe next, wants LQMT to mfg. a product, they will likely have to enter in this fashion, I believe. A 10-k would likely need to be filed.
if the material/process is deflationary to the products they offer, they will sell themselves. Simple as that.
I would like to believe that LQMT would act as the OEM(ie; tell me what you want and I will deliver it). Yihao would simply be contracted by LQMT to make the product. They(Eontec) CAN NOT work around those markets with direct sales.
I think we are more looking at accountability, communication and ultimate strategy. Typically how a company is run, no? Is that so much to ask?
I don't believe it to be negative. I believe it to be searching for reality.
Just like the reality is we all know LQMT technology is being used, we have all seen the pics, machines, words, images. We haven't had any communication with the old CEO in 6 years.
The reality is we have not benefitted. If thats negative, then thats the reality.
The only word not used above is "Yet". Which could be reality.
Luck is for gamblers.
Luck is for gamblers.
Do not say these things out loud. Reality in the world is unacceptable these days.
All of the information and pictures with the market happening is very well LQMT technology.. how we get paid is still the biggest mystery without a voice.
The idea of CEO's taking "No Salary" while they are worth millions, even hundreds of million or billions is a sideshow.
If/when a $1m + quarter shows up in next 2 quarters I will be more apt to believe the IP is being monetized.
As if we know where the IP is anymore is my point.
And many of the Maze companies, very close to the IP, have been on a tear higher.
LQMT at $0.00 is 100% market share for Maze..
The only variable is a company called Apple and CIP - but Apple has never been good to suppliers..
Based on supply chain issues, the outsourcing model is tough right now for autos/medical to enter. Much of the current discourse is regionalization of mfg.
How do you know he doesn't own any part of LK Tech?
And if machines(LQMT IP) that are in the maze "are" being bought via a company he owns, then the thesis stands..he has and continues to benefit outside of LQMT USA
I am not going to argue deeper than this anymore cause many of the investors in LQMT want to see it one way only. At this point, I think we need very simple answers to very simple questions as shareholders. For me, I am not happy that the CEO over last 5 years never even said hello to shareholders. Not even a clarification blog or anything that said I am still here and committed to the company.
I want to see my investment grow just as much as you and Josh, etc.. " but"
I have no information to prove anything about ownership except the Maze that has been discussed at length.
In fact, much of the LK Tech conversation on Ihub/maybe Reddit, has been around the idea that LK Tech is a amorphous technology via LQMT. I cant exactly remember but feel this was the thought process from much of the research done on the Maze.
But regardless, the Maze is indicative of the mental impressionism of everything AMM/BMG/LQMT
I would "assume" Li has some share of those companies based on the plethora of information that has been presented on these message boards.
Lastly, even if LK tech is 5%, he just grabbed $1B on $64m (thesis being the PLA/LQMT purchase has been saturated elsewhere). Thats a good 1000%.
I own a ton of shares - at this juncture, Ill let it ride. But the way Li never, not once, addressed shareholders other than when he purchased, doesn't leave me with great feelings.
And the other rumor floating is Apple is ditching the flip phone... if that happense, boy o boy..
I think its more a $24 million in cash question now..
Lets put this in perspective:
I am not sure how much LK Tech Li owns but Ill make an assumption: 20%(I have no clue but want to start somewhere). At share price of $1, this was worth roughly $150-$250m according to current market cap of $25b
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/0558.HK/
His investment of $64million in LQMT, which LK Tech seems to likely have received IP benefits and assuming it was a segway for LK Tech to go from $1 to $20, then his $64 million, through that IP exchange (20% share), is now worth $3-$5 billion.
So, whatever happens to LQMT, the $64 million has been more than profitable.
And LQMT USA can go to 0, or even incur a final BK where no one will touch because of a poison pill in the PLA with Eontec. Again, Im just trying to connect the dots with LK Tech and much of Asia maze exploding to upside, while LQMT trades at/near all time lows.
At LQMT $0.00, Li cornered world AMM market.
Wouldn't it be nice if LQMT had a research and development division?
Maybe I should meander over to the Reddit board...lots of great facts about LQMT becoming widely used..
And a ton of firms in China expanding research and development of "liquid metal" in manufacturing..
Where are we at these days with LQMT?
Seems the company has evaporated in lake forest?...
I have been completely wrong in owning this stock... negative returns year after year..
Not sure what is left here..who is watching out for shareholders anymore?
Chart Update
Since then:
1. As stated here, the timeframe initially shifted to July/August - this slippage occurred and quickly brought in buyers based on #2 below, structurally significant.
2. The chart healed itself, quick, with the departure of Li as CEO - interesting to say least
3. Did not hit 50m on weekly on breakout - to me, this means a pull back to buy zone to get a 50m buy zone
4. Indicates price wants higher in 6-9m timeframe - $0.25 is first target, imo
5. Buy zone - always has airpocket before move
CEO resigns
Par for course here.
Well, a CEO who leads a company for 5 years, and after his original inaugural appearance, says 3-5 sentences which come on the day he retires, doesn't seem like a present CEO.
Time keeps slipping, into the future...
1: Pattern remains but altered with downard bias
2: If this doesn't move by September(with grace period in December), we will then begin to half(derivative suck - like a black hole) - from $0.07 to $0.035 - most pennies after large formations like this, if they don't move higher, will deteriorate into fractional penny stocks
3. If it does move upward, breaking the resistance, it needs to do so with 50m + weekly volume, and it needs to quickly test the $0.16 area that same week for the pattern to validate anything real
4. The positive is this pattern continues to come to a major inflection point and has nowhere to hide - although this could continue til December now, so time continues to extend with the broken downside on original formation
There is a lot of misunderstanding all the way around with the PLA. Normalcy would have the CEO, and company, answer questions to clarify the "leader" of BMG worlds, position.
I think it is that simple. Yet...