i just want to learn.......
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Correct. It was civil.
There was a time on this board that this subject was the ONLY thing talked about. That is all water under the bridge and has washed into the ocean.
A previous partner was pissed at the Doc and attempted in several ways to pursue him civilly not criminally.
If you go back far enough you'll find that the Doc was criminally charged. His ex wife screwed him around. He was acquitted. It was part of the reason we're where we are at in today's world discussing ViaDerma.
I've been around this board since late 2016.
Are ViaDerma Inc and ViaDerma II Inc the same company?
I ask because as you've seen in my previous post I discovered ViaDerma II is listed as a packager of a VitaStem look alike. That's the purpose of the license, let many companies make market their own version of the stew.
I'm not trying to stir up crap, I just want to know that Viaderma II is not circumventing Viaderma in any way. I don't know why there would be a Viaderma II.
Here's were Viaderma II is listed:
https://ndclist.com/labeler/viaderma-ii-inc
https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=ab9579a0-aced-ecdd-e053-2a95a90afd37
If this has already been discussed I apologize.
ViaDerma is doing a great job of advertising VitaStem Ultra throughout the net, just google it. BUT you can't buy VitaStem or Ultra by name ANYWHERE that I could find.
BUTTTT.........You can buy the same thing as VitaStem here....
This is The Brewer Group's version of VitaStem. I am only assuming VDRM gets a piece of this pie. ViaDerma II is listed as the packagers (see below). BUTTTT the Brewer Group has millions (over 50 milly) shares from loans and "advise". They may have a deal to keep it all. They've sold this here at this site for several years. It's changed the name of several times. It's current name is Bwell First Aid Antibiotic.
Purchase site.
https://brewerwellnessshop.com/products/antibiotic-ointment-drip
Packaging info:
https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=ab9579a0-aced-ecdd-e053-2a95a90afd37
https://www.dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/fda/fdaDrugXsl.cfm?setid=ab9579a0-aced-ecdd-e053-2a95a90afd37&type=display
https://ndclist.com/labeler/viaderma-ii-inc
The Brewer Group, Inc. got richer......
They're share total is in the 70-80 million share range now. They've been Doc's "friendly hand" for a long time now. I'd about consider them an insider.......They're also holding $$$ in high interest notes.
I just wish there was some way to see how many shares have sold by Pinky "insiders". The last time I talked to PR (a couple years, no one answers the phone or emails now) swore Doc has not sold one share. With preferred shares and their conversion rate and common shares he's in the got to be well over 500 million range. That can be judged by reading through the report and how there is no vote on anything, what he says goes........
The announcement of his compensation package is either really good or BS. It's really good if the latest press is remotely possible. It's BS if it's a smoke screen for appearances only, appearing to have a legit chance.....
I've been here a llllooonnngggg time waiting for the "big one". Time will tell what's up.
Don't think so......
Sadly, I am bearish but want to be bullish and hope like heck the positives are right......
I got in July of 21' at around .04¢. Great things were going to happen and the price quickly pushed to as high as .185¢ on relatively low volume considering the OS at the time. (see later) Could I have sold then? Sure. Should I have sold then, well it depends...if your a flipper heck yes or do you believed how great this company was going to be and how it would be $1, $5, $10 (sound familiar) then no. In retrospect, heck yes I should have sold but I wanted to become a millionaire :) Sound familiar......
Since that time it's been going the wrong direction with a few news spikes. Way too many shares have obviously been added in the 3 years I've been in this stock. In 21' it had over 4 billion shares. There are now over 7 billion shares outstanding with the ability go to 20 billion. Do the math. Look at its history. Sadly this has become a dilution machine. How long will it take to get to 10 billion, 2-3 years?
Look at the 2022 Daily/Weekly trading volume. There is no one trading when you look at percentage of shares traded verses outstanding shares. There are over 7 billion shares outstanding (https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/DPLS/security) and the volume is averaging around (estimate) 175-225 million shares a WEEK (See 2 year chart at Yahoo.com). I wish people were holding because it was for great things that will be happening soon but I'm afraid it's because of why I'm holding it. There are way too many shareholders stuck with a purchase price of .01, .05., .07, even in the teens. With a current price of .004¢ you just as well hold it and pray that all of the positives reported will come to fruition.
To those of you that are going to hammer this, I'm praying you are right !!!!!!!!!!!
This is my opinion only. Do not use it as any type of investment advise. Do you own research and extra DD
Come on, get real.....
This stock has, for rounding purposes, 1 billion outstanding shares. https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/VDRM/security
VDRM would have a market value of $1 Billion if this were to reach $1. Get real.....
Have you looked in your research how much competition there is in this market? IF this hair product is real and if it does have potential for sales then a realistic PPS would be in the .20¢ to .25¢ range, giving it a $250 million market value. Now, if it can grow a full head of hair on Woody Harrelson and The Rock then you might hit your $1.
I have been in VDRM and watching this board a LLLLOOOONNNNGGGG time. I got caught up in the last big push here with VitaStem which fizzled out because it was FOS or COVID or a combination or it was all BS. When will we see any kind of financials to show what has happened to this product's sales? Won't make the mistake again. We'll see how it plays out.
BBIG requested info on the whooping 5 share, $.71 trade. Looking at the trades there are a LOT of single digit trades at this or near this price. I am no expert and I just bought this but WTF would you trade that many shares for these prices other than some manipulation gig.
This is just another Pinky that says they have "great deals" going and in the implementation phase BUT all of these great deals are happening in other countries, most of which you can't really check to see if they're real.....
Have you tried lately????
Have they lately?????
That's because he made his $$$$$$ he is gone......
He had a nice setup. Buy up stocks he wanted to pump....announce they're in his Salami, sell to all of those how bought the pump on the way up. Keep posting far a while to show interest, bail, go to the next Salami.......
I'm not a basher (read my posts). I just want to know if anyone else is able to communicate or if they've gone off the grid.
I've tried calling 3 times since Oct 4. When I first try it rings once and is disconnected. I immediately retry and it is disconnected before 1 ring. I've sent 4 emails and they are never returned.
Has anyone heard from them in the last 3 weeks????
Has anyone actually been able to contact customer relations via email or phone??
NO Staining!!! This is great!!! This may not be enough to change the share price directly but indirectly.......
If you have ever used VitaStem you would know that it works GREAT but it does stain. If not careful it not only stained your skin for a time but it stained socks, bedding,......anything it touched before it dried.
This no stain change might have been a prerequisite for the hospitals to use????
Time will tell, but the no stain is a pleasant upgrade for consumers.
What if the hospital's and/or insurance companies and/or universities won't buy from a pink company with unaudited financials?????
They may not want to deal with a company that has not proven that they're a real company and end up not getting the product that they want really want in the future because it was a POS company.
$VDRM is taking steps to make themselves a viable, nonpinky company that anyone will want to deal with.......or even buy......
This comes from Stockwits.......
$VDRM A mistake was made but......
JUST FOUND THIS ON REDDIT....
$VDRM ....but isn't it better that it was found by their own accountant BEFORE the up list audit and any "big" hospital/insurance/university deal? IMO, yes.... This "should" make for a clean up list audit which is important.
Did it affect the fins? Yes it did but when you look at the revenue gain from year to year and know there is cash coming in monthly to deal with this mistake it makes it a LOT easier to swallow. IMO this mistake is minuscule to the way the Doc threw around shares from '14-19'. He is a very good chemist and podiatrist but was a shitty business man. He made some mistakes I'm sure he'd like to take back but, as with the accounting error it's all water under the bridge that can't be undone.
There are around 911 million shares in float, very small for a pinky. Most are well in the billions....There were some bailers but look at the total number of shares sold since the mistake announcement compared to the float.........36+M the day and 9+M the next. All others at or below 4.5M. If the ship was sinking don't you think there would have been billions of shares dumped????
IMO, and I'm no Einstein so use this other than info. The sky isn't falling. I'm going to wait for either the great positive or really shitty negative news on the sales before you make my move.
That's all we can do at this point. It may go much higher or much lower. Only the doc knows for sure......
As far as the current price, it's close, depending on the multiple you may use and the margin, which again only the doc knows.
I try to call it as I see it....
I don't have private messaging, I'm not that important.
I would like to communicate also some time.
Float's locked, priced right where we technically should be and now waiting.......
Got this from another place......
Float's locked:
There's around 911,600,000 shares in float. For the last month 1% or less of the float has been traded daily. I'd say that's locked.
We are priced right where we should be:
Look at this post: https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=164668207
Use this post and use its formulas but leave out the estimated revenue from the upcoming (hopefully) deal. You will find that the price per share of VDRM should be .026. This is where we are at now and have been trading at for the past month. This says a lot. There are some smart people controlling this price. They are waiting, just like EVERYONE here is, for some kind of announcement that says there is a closed $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ deal with hundreds of hospitals and care givers.
IMO these are the scenarios we have ahead....
1. There is an announcement of a million to multimillion dollar deal with hospitals. This is the best case scenario obviously and will send the price up proportionately to the size of the deal.
2. The hospitals look at the other deals struck by Viaderma. ALL of them are licensing deals. Instead of paying millions a month for VitaStem they pay Viaderma hundreds of thousands of dollars a month and bottle their own. This is good but not nearly what has been promised.
3. The deal falls apart and nothing comes of it. Back in 2018 thee was an announcement of some deal that was suppose to happened and that never transpired.
The Doc has been true to his word so far from the January 13 message. He said there would be more licensing deals and there have been. Let's hope that the hospital deal's delay is just the red tape and bureaucracy of dotting the I's and crossing the T's of a multi multimillion dollar deal.
Profit taking........all OTCs that spike like this go through this......
First of all I'm a mid March newbie long here so this is no diss on DPLS.
IMO this is what's happening, a normal occurrence for successful OTC stocks....and if I'd been buying back between August 2020 and January 1 I'd be doing the same thing. If you're in this at .13 and higher your only going to actually lose $$$$ if you sell now. If you haven't it's only a paper loss. If you really believed that DPLS is a rockstar be patient, let them make their money and let management do its thing. If you thought it was good at .17 buy the dip and get more........
Look at this 1 year chart of DPLS:
From August 18 to January 25 there were 10+ billion shares accumulated UNDER .01. VERY, VERY cheap. Many of these buyers have been waiting an opportunity like this. This is a penny stock traders DREAM. No different that what everyone here is hoping for now......
Between August 18 and December 30 everything was Trip 0s, .0001 to .0009. You could have purchased 10 million shares at the mid range of .0005. That 10 million only costs you $5k.
Now in present day, starting July 6 you get to sell at a price between .10 and .20......... you get to sell those 10 million shares for, say, .15 and get $1.5 MILLION from a $5k investment. Tell me if you had a chance to do this you wouldn't......
Yes, DPLS could become a rockstar, I hope so. Yes, it may still make newbies like me millionaires but it's making a lot of millionaires right now...
$VDRM Where's the price going from here?
(I got this from another site, looked interesting....)
THIS IS NOT TO BE USED AS A REASON TO BUY OR SELL THIS STOCK. I'M NO EXPERT. THIS IS A STAB AT TRYING TO PROVIDE INFO. MODS IF IT'S WAY OFF, TAKE IT DOWN. IF IT'S GOOD PROMOTE IT. EVERYONE, DO YOUR OWN DD!!!!
Using the numbers and information below it may go to $.43 per share.....This is a guesstimate, it may be way to big or way to small with current unknowns. You may also choose different margins and/or multiples or prices for Vitastem........
Where the $.43 came from:
The following makes assumptions while using previous materials and information disclosed by $VDRM. The materials can be found here: https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/VDRM/news and other places on it's site. This press release also gives us information: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/viaderma-inc-nearing-initial-order-090000944.html
The price will be determined by revenue and demand; both are a guess right now. We won't know demand until we find out what Dr. O reveals about his hospital and insurance deal and any future deals he may be making. We can guesstimate what the monthly revenue will be through the documents VDRM has released.
Here is the guesstimate of what the monthly revenue may be....where the numbers came from can be found with the corresponding letters below.
a. $45,000 Wound Care Licenses
b. $50,000 Limb Salvage offices
c. $100,000 Dubai
d. $22,000 Online sales
e. $3,333,360 Hospitals, clinics, etc...
$3,550,360 Total Monthly Revenue Total of a.-e.
Determining price/share:
Monthly Revenue $3,550,360
Annual Revenue $42,604,320
Annual Revenue * 50% margin = $21,302,160 (different margin?)
Multiple of 20 for the type of business = $426,043.200 (different multiple?)
$426,043.200 / 990,000,000 OS = $.43 per share.....This may be way to big or way to small with current unknowns. You may also choose different margins and/or multiples........
Where the numbers came from:
a. 01/13, 01/21, 02/24 VDRM news release @ otcmarkets, 9 States, $5,000 each
b. 06/02 VDRM news release @ otcmarkets, $600k/12 months
c. 06/24 VDRM news release @ otcmarkets,$12 mil, 10 years, $1.2m/12 months
d. 05/18 Qtr Report - $157,382 (TTL Rev) - $90,000 (3 months of current License Rev) = $67,382 (Other Rev) / 3 months
e. 05/13 News release on Yahoo... This release used the words “incorporated into hundreds of hospitals, nursing homes and hospices”. How many is hundreds? In the 01/13 release it was stated that $VDRM anticipates selling “500,000 units” in 2021.
e. Let's take them at their word. 500,000/12 months = 41,667 units. Unit Price? another unanswerable question that must be guesstimated. The hospitals wanted the spray version of Vitastem that has a retail price of $159. How much will the discount be? I choose the middle of the road and a 50% discount price of $80. You can choose your own price...... $80 * 41,667 = $3,333,360.
So when do fleet/work pickups/trucks need to go over 80 mph? They're not intended to become ambulances either unless I've missed something.....
Who gives a rats a... whether they go 80 as long as they will get from point A to point B much more efficiently than gas and do the job as intended....
New leadership won't hurt this company one bit.....
VDRM Est. Monthly/Annual Revenue by December 31
Got this from another sight:
Estimated Monthly Revenue
Licenses $40,000
Limb Salvage $50,000
Dubai $104,167
Online sales $22,000
Hospitals???? $3,333,333
Estimated Monthly Revenue $3,549,500
Estimated Annual Revenue $42,594,000
Where do the numbers come from:
*Licenses--from recent press releases, 8 States, this may double to 16 @ $5,000 per state
*Limb Salvage--from the recent press release , $600,000 annually/12
*Dubai--from the recent press release, $12.5 million/10 years/12
*Online sales--from the recent income statement
3 month total revenue: $157,382...3 month licensing revenue: $90,000 (from press releases 6 states, $5,000/month)
Online sales: $157,382 - $90,000 = $67,382/3 months
*Hospitals?---Here's the BIG unknown. What the discount will be from the $159 retail price of the spray bottles and total units. I chose $80 because it is 50%. I used the 500,000 units from the January 13 press release.
It may be wrong? FOR DISCUSSION ONLY...DO YOUR OWN DD!!
Amen, THANK YOU for your long service!!!!!
Here are VDRM products that are currently being sold online......and possibly hospitals.
Vitastem
This product comes in two different sizes; 55 ml spray bottle and 15 ml dropper.
*55 ml spray bottle sells online for $159. I don't know what they will be selling this to hospitals for.
Link: https://biogenx-sandbox.myshopify.com/products/vitastem?variant=34522209648803
*15 ml dropper sells for $79 online. I don't know what they will be selling this to hospitals for.
Link: https://biogenx-sandbox.myshopify.com/products/vitastem?variant=34522209616035
This is also sold on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Vitastem-Super-Healing-Antibiotic-Infections-associated/dp/B076V2RM46
Liberdol
This is a product that was announced in $VDRM letter in January. I do not know if this is going to be part of the announced sales to hospitals. I don't know if it's sold online anywhere.
Only VDRM knows what the margins are on these products so one can only speculate what the discount to hospitals will be if they buy in the 100,00s. It would be great that they paid full retail but....
Time will tell.....
(I got this info from another site)
CLEAN UP/UPDATE THE TOP INFO PART OF THIS PAGE any admins??
Can anyone Starting from the top down:
+Face book link....
+CBD part....T google it.
+Update the Intellectual Property area.
+Replace the 2018 Note From The CEO with the January 2021 note.
+Update the recent news
+Remove the Facebook link
This page has some very good DD info.
Thanks
Help me out.....4+ Billion OS??
New to the DPLS board. Saw a good writeup on reddit. Most have probably seen it: https://www.reddit.com/r/DPLS/comments/li0r2l/darkpulse_dpls_dd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I've tried sifting through the gold a manure here but it's often hard to distinguish it.
How are they going to get enough revenue to get a valuation of $4 billion or $1 billion even? Are they planning a stock buyback some time? Do they have something that's that good and can produce that kind of revenue?
4:00 EST or PST???? I hoping PST.....
May 17, 2021 or May 17 2025??????
Somebody get VDRM's ass........
First of all I'm long, in at .35 and .45 and ready to buy when I think this fire sale is over.
Somebody has dumped over 18 million shares this week and there haven't been any big buyers. This stock has so few outstanding shares, float and average daily trading volume that it doesn't take much volume to change its price in either direction. If you look at the past 5 days the volume has been heavier than "normal" and has been mostly selling.
The previous week we only had over 1.8 million shares traded and 4 green days. Why such an increase and why red? This feels like dilution but I've looked through all of the current forms but I see no issuance of new stock for that purpose. That does not mean it isn't there. Let's hope they're about done.....Next stop is around .165.....
If you look at the recent updates there were some individuals that left that had access to millions of shares. If you sell $1 million shares at .20 you rake in $200k. Not bad if your getting out......
That is one of the annual BS scams where he buys stocks weeks/months in advance, announces the big stocks then dumps them.....NOT one doubt this happens.
Very Good, but not great news.....
The only new news that they haven't already told us is the listing news, which is important. I've been with this stock for over 4 years now. On https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/VDRM/overview I've seen "shell risk", the dreaded Skull, caveat emptor..... It's nice to see all of that gone. Pink is good......Become listed as a OTCQB would be huge. This would bring in more, stable investors that can't/won't invest in a OTC Pink.
Great news is more sales. That's the only thing that's going to really move this thing.......Now if they can sell something in a large volume.....
Yes, much better positioned that they were.... IF and I mean IF things start flying north and they report new contracts my only question is trying to figure out what the real price of this stock SHOULD be. I say should because I'm guessing it will get ran up above actual, present value.
What is the value if they SELL 100-500k of the product?
What is the value if the LICENSE the 100-500k product? One thing the recent sales announcement doesn't discuss is the number of products being used......
I'm going to kick back and watch the ride.........
GLTA VDRM
YES, any pink is a risk!!! This is like going to Vegas. Only bet what you can afford to loose if things go south.........
Unless you have inside information you have NO idea when VDRM is going to spike. Predicting time and price is as foolish as ripping about naked shorts that really aren't there.....
If you look at past history of VDRM announcements you will see that they will come very early in the morning EST (4-5 am), when they come. They have been pretty consistent on this whenever they put out news.
How much it spikes will be determined by the amount of sales announced.
IMO the announcement of zero TOXIC debt is important. This is a still a stinky pinky until it proves otherwise. It's still has the Shell warning on the otcmarkets website. BUT, if lenders are willing to take shares to cancel out all debt owed, well, let's just say they're not in business to loose money. At present 10 million shares are just north of $200k. He gave them more than 10 million....
Did this dilute total shares, well yes. But this is a pinky stock with no toxic debt UNDER 1 Billion shares. Find me another and post it so I can buy some of it......
There have been accusations of VDRM "lying" in their January post. In the past (2018) they have made "forward looking" statements about sales and they evidently did come through. Trying to make deals in an African country was ludicrous.... VDRM ended up with egg not only on their face but all over their body. I think they learned their lesson and quit taking...period. We heard nothing for a lllloooonnnngggg time. It appears in the time frame they were developing their products and working on deals. They waited until they had something before they announced.
It appears that at least part of their announcement is true, the jury is still out on the rest of it.
I'm long and have been for some time. I have not held for years because I thought this was going to be the next Apple or Tesla. It was out of need. Bought high, price when to crap so there was no need to sell. Now that VDRM has awoken, it appears that maybe there is some money to be made after all.
This is ONLY opinion and not advice on buying VDRM....Do your own DD................
The products are why VDRM has a chance.....
I hear you....
I've been here for as many years as you have and did basically the same thing. I forgot about this thing, wrote it off. I happened to leave an alert in my trade account if/when it woke up at .015 and the alarm sounded last month. Now I have an alert set for "news". Boom it went off again with the $30k a month deal.
I got caught up in the hoopla and anticipation, but finally realized that was dumb. Now I forget about it. If it booms again great, if not I'm not any worse off than I was a few months ago.
Predicting when/if they will come through with any more sales is folly. VDRM has never been on a timetable and they sure aren't now. It will happen if/when it happens.
On a final note, it does look promising that it has churned at the .02 level for quite a while now instead of the .004 or .003 levels. Looks like since Boom day the low was settled at .017 and now is trying to be set at around .02. With the low daily price spread I can't image who'd be selling other than day traders trying to make $20 a day.
GLTA VDRM longs.....
The .0190 barrier is trying hard to be broken by someone this morning. If it isn't broken again today that's a great sign that this is in strong investor hands....IMO.... Would make me a stronger believer for the long term.....
Yep...I'm a believer.....Sort of....
Seen too much BS the past few years to to a "true" believer yet.....
Other than picking the correct 6 numbers in the Mega or Powerball this is the only way to get "lucky" and hit a big jackpot.
I've said that you don't invest money in pinks unless you can loose it just as if you went to Vegas; you don't gamble money in Vegas that you can't loose. I thought this was lost money until it suddenly woke up with the Doc's last 2 infomercials.....Maybe there is hope of that pot at the end of the rainbow.
One thing I will guarantee, I read but I don't believe most of the BS that's slung around..."bought 1 milly more today"....BS
.....Screen shoot your account and show us....
There have been some good posts showing accurate math and logic. Now it they can just come to fruition...
Velk10....
We appear to be brothers of the same lodge. I've been here since before the last .06 days and have watched and listened to cheerleaders and bashers. I've heard Dr. O promise this and that and got nothing.
The only, and big, difference is that he actually announced a signed contract and sales with a deposit by the end of the month. This is a first......Both are verifiable. I also have used the product and it really does work very well. I guess time will tell.
We've waited this long. The worst thing that could happen is we go back to Trip 0s or worse and I've come to terms with loosing the investment here. The other side of the coin is we can hope some of these prediction gurus aren't talking out of their ars and are actually right. I'm holding and waiting. I've run out of prayers for this thing LOL......
GLTA
Good enough for me!! TX