Zeev's Roadmap Charted

[lofthouse]

Chart not updated in a while...I wonder why...

[Koikaze]

Are you saying: "Vengeance is mine, sayeth Our Zeev"???

Fred

[WinLoseOrDraw]

use it as a sign: whenever the carping gets real loud, the map is about to get back on track. with a vengance.

[Koikaze]

Whoops!!! Accidental duplication. It wasn't worth saying twice.

Fred

[Koikaze]

At the risk of repeating myself, I'll ask again:

May I have a link to your market forecasts?

Surely, folks so quick to castigate another's efforts can offer a better alternative. Carping is easy. Offering intelligent commentary is much more difficult. So far, you haven't shown the intellect to provide anything worthy of consideration.

Fred

[lofthouse]

hawk, I must admit that Zeev is consistant...consistantly wrong but consistant...


Posted by: Zeev Hed
Date:7/16/2004 10:46:15 AM

No worth than 1880...but that is still some way.

[hawk]

Geez, thet's what I was thinking, these map does not seem to be panning out. We are going the wrong way !!

[lofthouse]

It may be time for another map.....


Posted by: Zeev Hed
Date:7/2/2004 4:47:07 PM
Right now still working on the assumption that next two weeks will see an attempt at the $2076/88 area

[Killian]

wecus- firstly, thanks for taking time to draw a map of Zs road. It is so appreciated!

You must understand though that people follow Zeevs road because of his successes. He is so talented and his calls have been so superb that one would be foolish not to take into consideration travelling his road. His latest path though has been downright treacherous. I got caught and so have many other people.

Is it Zs fault? Does he transmit my orders? Certainly not!

Secondly, you must understand ones frustration and take it with a grain of salt and I'm sure you do. Anklebiters? or just one spewing out frustration and blaming Z because of their trust in Zeevs calls. No one can be trusted in the stock market. It's a place where the MMs will screw you to make their money!

Lastly, a BIG thank you to you wecus! You've gone above and beyond!!!!

Take care and I hope Zs road comes to fruition for the both of us as well as many others!!!

K

[JK]

Hey Gottfried,
the are a lot of wadlbeißer around here on IHub and SI.

Wie geht's?

Servus,

[wecus]

sorry, i think this is (or you are?) becoming ridiculous...

[WinLoseOrDraw]

the funny thing is the april correction most closely matches the shape of what has actually happened - it's just a couple hundreds points to high. for several months i've expected nothing but grind for the rest of the year, i bet we'll look back on this map and see a nice lineup of tops and bottoms, but continue to not really go anywhere.

welcome to the 70s! :)

[lofthouse]

wecus, I note that just like Zeev you kind of "edited" the map and it looks much better without all the broken-down maginot lines and all the so-called line-in-the-sand texts/lines on the chart, but you did manage to leave a few bells to make it look better.......you, Zeev in disguise?.....same m.o......

[gottfried]

:)

[wecus]

actually it's bavarian, not german <g> and the literal translation would be calvesbiter. In a way I like it better as soft meat is so much tastier than hard bones..

[gottfried]

hi Andreas, learned a new word "wadlbeisser". I didn't know it translated from English. :) Thank you for your charting! Gottfried

[wecus]

First, I'm updating the chart whenever time permits. This has got *nothing* to do with whatever calls Zeev makes but very much with my professional life instead (which is not trading stocks). Just the innuendo would be an insult to me if you sitting here instead of beeing a voice in cyberspace. (and the last update was something like 6 trading days ago, whaddoyawant, buddy, am i running on your schedule or what?)

Second, if you want to bite somebodys ankles why mine? I'm just charting not interpretating, ok? That's your job, not mine. Subsribe to a newsletter if you don't like what you get here!

I easily admit that I'm loosing money these days as I'm very long but very short of time, so my guess is that you're joining the club (don't tell me that you went cash or even short these days<g>) and I thus offer you my commiseration.

*But*: While Zeev's role in my own thoughts is quite huge since I really respect his intelligence and knowledge I will always rely on my own brain only and I would never blame anybody but myself for making the wrong decisions.

This is what you're missing IMHO. But I will fulfill your whish and update the chart right away (special lofthouse edition, proudly dedicated to my first wadlbeisser here on ihub)...

Andreas

[Koikaze]

Whassamatta, chum?

Having problems thinking for yourself?

May I have a link to your market forecasts?

Fred

[lofthouse]

wecus, not too fast at updating the chart these days. would Zeev's lousy calls lately have anything to do with it?

[wecus]

These sort of lines always represent the 'forks', in this case a given timespan during which the target shold be reached, in other cases maybe a target range as opposed to time. After all the lines are nothing more than connections between several points on an XY graph

I will start to link the relevant posts in the future but I'm to lazy right now to look the last one up, search for it - I just try to visualize the farmer's hints given to the public but I try to include as little interpretation as possible, although the chart can not be be free of these.

The space between the lines could for instance be viewed as the prognosted trading range, but I leave it up to you to do such. Personally I rather see the 'targets' as key levels instead and watch the reactions at the time they are reached. I don't care so much about Raodmap for the time inbetween - except when things are heading south of course <g>

Hope this helps...

Andreas

[lostalot]

Wecus: What is the difference between the 2 red lines after the "ring the bell" sign in May 04?

[Zeev Hed]

Need of a translation from the Hungarian lingo?

[urmygold1]

its freezing in petrified gorgonization.

huh{vbg};o)

[urmygold1]

its freezing in petrified gorgonization.

huh{vbg};o)

[urmygold1]

its freezing in petrified gorgonization.

huh{vbg};o)

[TREND1]

Chart of past record( so far) of calls for TOPS and Bottoms.

http://www.geocities.com/larrydudash2005/CALLS.html

[johnny77]

IMO the S&P most always tracks the NAZ or vice versa.But Zeev would know better than me.

[holly]

Zeev then
what you think of the dates Jim says change of direction on june 18th july 23rd and oct 13th.
Tia

[kmjb9763]

Zeev, will the SP500 react similar to your call on the NAZ with similar timing?? Mike

[wecus]

Ok, I will search for the little bugger called time ASAP, hopefully already tonight.

Unfortunately I'm under considerable pressure here myself, maybe I should try to hide under the sofa as well...

Thanks for the update in the name of all turnip fans...

Andreas

[Zeev Hed]

Wecus, here are some new targets and dates, 2076 between 6/17 and 6/23. A smallish retrench to 2008, finished no later than 6/29, a retake (after two additional attempts in the 2076/88) of 2100 by July 13th (maybe as early as July 7th?). Then a fast run to 2330 before August 6th, another minor series of relapses and run leading to a top in the 2450/2550 area either on 9/8 or 9/14. Then we start and have too much political influence of the approaching elections, a probable major swoon down starting 9/8-9/14, and going to at least the beginning of October, maybe as late as the middle of October. No visibility beyond that (apart of at least a 100 Naz points run back up, but I know not, now if that will lead to resumption of the bull or its freezing in petrified gorgonization.

[Zeev Hed]

Since last fall, the only whipsaw from the turnips was from early may and that additional excursion to the March lows in md May which was not expected, that whipsaw should be trivial to most.

[sd]

Actually he will turn the page if NDX closes above 1480 and I will have been whipsawed again. I don't know if it is better to be killed in small whip saws from your map or large whipsaws from his map. Seems like nothing has gone right since last fall.

[sd]

Yeah, so I noticed since a year ago March, but it seemed like this year he might be getting it right. Plus I have picked up other ramblings aqlong the same lines. Of course I am probably filtering out the ramblings that don't agree.

[disciple]

sd,

Seville makes decent precious metal calls, but his bearish leanings on the overall market have been wrong for a long time.

disciple

[Zeev Hed]

No offense, I simply suggested that if Seville and I are not on the same page you should tell him to turn the page (g).

[sd]

Sorry if I offended you Zeev - been following you around since way before the GRNO days.

Just thought with the original map so distorted, the lower highs since Jan (Feb, Apr, and now June) that maybe an adjustment might be timely. Seems like the market is so manipulated with before hours index moves that can't really start some action that maybe the market was overcoming the manipulative influences. Certainly don't think oil will be left alone by the terriorists and what more can OPEC do? Gotta believe they were running at a pretty good clip before their latest statement. Inflation, IRAQ, $USD, ????

[Zeev Hed]

I can't do anything about is being on the wrong page, write to Seville and tell him how you feel, maybe he'll change his stance. I am still very bullish and my just under 10% cash position is your clear indicator on that matter.

[sd]

You do fantastic work for day traders but I was wondering if you might not relook at the long term this weekend with out the day trader glasses on. The road map is something I think a lot of us incapable of following your swift trades would like to watch to try to keep on the right side of the market when dealing with index funds. So far Seville is still a bear except he is now looking for the low he was projecting for this month to possibly be slipped out a month or two which is just the opposite to what I seem to read from you. I sure like it better when you guys are on the samne page.

[wecus]

No, the map gets updated or just filled up whenever time blinks out from down under the sofa and gets caught. No other system to that.

But I only change/add links whenever I put in something 'new' like forks, comments or whatever there is noteworthy. If there's nothing to report I only fill up the COMP data without changing the filename.

I can see from the msgs I get that a map update is wanted by many and you can be sure that I'll get down on my knees to catch time in it's hiding as soon as there will be need for that.

Hopefully it will be a major revision, expanding the unknown northern territories of the map as has been hinted before, last time in http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3143095

Andreas

[lofthouse]

wecus, it seems to me the map graphic doesn't get updated as often when Zeev is off-mark, or is is off-map?

[wahz]

We got within ten points this am of the low I have been expecting since January. This is the moment many of us have been or should have been waiting for.

Although I expected a sell off from January into summer to tag the 300 day ma's on the comp, I did not at all expect the severe damage that has occurred in individual stocks. I have been smashed quite thoroughly despite expecting this sell off. Not too bright.

I don't share your concerns about next year, if I read you right. You may have adjusted that though...I stopped reading your posts but have paid attentiaon to this thread as a summary of your position. We should be heading straight to 2800/2900 within 2 years, with one reaction along the way, 8-10 months from now

[TexasTech]

Zeev,

Here is your March bottom call http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2643339

Here is yor April bottom call http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2962091

And your May bottom call http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3096262

I'd say 3rd time is the charm. I too am looking for a short-term rally.

All the best, and God Bless,

TT

[Zeev Hed]

Why would I want to join the chorus of bears when my indicators have not been so bullish since September of 2001? I don't expect the same size run to follow, but after some pain here in the last two weeks, I expect the normal election year scenario to reestablish itself. It would help if Iraq and the Palestinians issue will take less than front page status, but nevertheless, conditions are quite ripe for a sizeable run. We surely did not get extreme bullishity developing post the late March lows, and on the retest of the arch lows, the indicators have hit real bottom like levels. My 10% cash position is in clear concordance with that opinion.

[sd]

Good luck - unfortunately I was thinking he might have to reduce his expections for the next couple of months. Like maybe expect a low rather than a high two months from now.

[wecus]

Very likely, I agree. Being long I really hope his POV will support mine <g>

[sd]

wecus, again thanks for the timely update of your chart. Want to bet Zeev will change the chart dramatically this week??

[gottfried]

wecus, I am grateful for your chart! Thank you. Without it it would be much harder to follow Zeev's predictions. Could you make the green [actual] line a little bolder?

No reply needed because there may be no time hiding under your couch. :)

Gottfried

[Zeev Hed]

Yup, make it very difficult to includes all the "but if" but I can live with it (g). It clearly shows the "Good, the bad and the very ugly..." (g).

[wecus]

It's really just an Excel sheet with one collumn for each fork. There were several obstacles to overcome as XL is not a graphic SW per se but it's relatively easy working on it for now. The hardest part is to keep the map legible and refrain from overstuffing it with information...