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Agreed. The shares had to be truly cancelled in order to be compliant with the reorg plan.
However, I think that we will be given the option here within the next month to redeem our shares in exchange for agreeing not to sue the debtors. If the debtors don’t make this offer, they will have a massive shareholder lawsuit liability (recall that Windstream turned down a $1.5B loan by Elliott, post Aurelius ruling, that would have kept Windstream out of bankruptcy).
I don’t think it’s over yet guys. Cancelling is part of the plan.
submit all anyone cares to....the shares are W O R T H L E S S....It was stated by Windstream long ago that when BK ended commons would likely be worthless. Easy to understand
FYI - Proof of claim
Did any one receive a proof of claim to submit?.I was told by my broker that i need to contact KCC and they might send a proof of claim to submit.
Check with your brokers too.
I’m wiped - thanks Rok for the warnings!
I appreciate your diligence in trying to warn holders that stock was worthless over the last few months. I gave up weeks ago, some people refuse to accept the evidence of their own accounts. Remember the old saying that a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.
Anyone heard from tutt? Tutt, you there? Tutt, were you able to unload your stock on these unfortunates?
newflow,
That is very comforting to see that the whole thing is not yet final.
My appreciation.
Rule 9019 may work out that the new Windstream will provide compensation
to insiders, employees, institutional investors and us, the former common share holders.
Somewhere sometime, there is a court day 10/14/2020 I recalled was set for plan confirmation.
Is this right?
Sharing.. this is from Disclosure Statement
Page 22
H. General Settlement of Claims and Interests
Pursuant to section 1123 of the Bankruptcy Code and Bankruptcy Rule 9019 and in consideration
for the distributions and other benefits provided pursuant to the Plan, the Plan is and shall be deemed a
good-faith compromise and settlement of all Claims, Interests, and controversies relating to the contractual,
legal, and subordination rights that a holder of a Claim or Interest may have with respect to any Allowed
Claim or Interest, or any distribution to be made on account of such Allowed Claim or Interest.
The entry of the Confirmation Order shall constitute the Bankruptcy Court’s approval of the
compromise or settlement of all such Claims, Interests, and controversies, as well as a finding by the
Bankruptcy Court that such compromise or settlement is in the best interests of the Debtors, their Estates,
and holders of Claims and Interests and is fair, equitable, and reasonable. The compromises, settlements,
and releases described herein shall be deemed nonseverable from each other and from all other terms of the
Plan. In accordance with the provisions of the Plan, pursuant to Bankruptcy Rule 9019, without any further
notice to or action, order, or approval of the Bankruptcy Court, after the Effective Date, the Reorganized
Debtors, may compromise and settle Claims against, and Interests in, the Debtors and their Estates and
Causes of Action against other Entities.
"Claims & Interests in"
Game is not over yet for us common holders, JMO.
I’d be angry at the repeated claims that those shares would be just fine. Over and over and over I was treated poorly by telling the truth that the Commons would be canceled on the exit of bankruptcy. Now those who told you that will likely tell the next group on another stock and they’ll be wrong there too. I’m sorry anyone lost money on this dog but they broadcast it long ago that common shares would be worthless @Windstream
My TDAmeritrade shares also deleted.
The record in my Etrade and Charles Schwab were deleted and
message indicating that 97382A309 expired.
The other brokers may be slow to manage it.
Shares are still in my account
newflow,
Thanks for your reply. I have been following your move and wisdom from WaMu to Windstream.
Will there still be light behind the current total darkness?
I still do not buy the zero outcome.
Totally illogical:
1. Over 2M held by insiders; over 600K each by officer and CEO who remians in new Windstream.
2. Zero for hundred of thousands of employees with their retirement accounts.
3. So many institutional owners seeing their investment sour.
Though being deleted or expired with winmq and 97382A309,
there should be record somewhere (DTC, stock issuing agents..)
that such beneficiary interest will be reinstated and paid.
What do you think?
Sharing...yes i checked in my account and the ticker was removed yesterday with no distribution.Its a total loss for me.
newflow,
Windstream common share escrow marker 97382A309 just got deleted last night (9-28-2020) from my two broker accounts.
I have much worries.
Any hope out of this situation?
Thanks for helping in advance.
Commons are worthless.
But At
Least now no one can
Buy or
Sell this
Delisted trash
Formerly winmq
buy most of Windstream's equity out of bankruptcy
Windstream shakes free from Chapter 11 bankruptcy
https://www.fiercetelecom.com/telecom/windstream-shakes-free-from-chapter-11-bankruptcy
Along with announcing it had reached an agreement with Uniti, Windstream announced at the same time it had negotiated a proposal with hedge-fund manager Elliott and other investors to buy most of Windstream's equity out of bankruptcy while also removing a large chunk of its debt.
It was actually Windstream that told us a year ago that an exit from BK would likely end common shares...believing the lies posted was insanity. WINMQ....wait, there is no WINMQ...it's delisted and shares are worthless
If you sold your shares, there won't be any recourse. If you kept the shares and if you still see those shares in your account, there is a probability at the liquidation and dissolution of the Debtors.
I am no expert at stock training. I do it simply as a hobby I enjoy. It’s companies like these that take the enjoyment away. I feel as if WINMQ has really screwed over its loyal stockholders. It’s almost a case of theft by deception. After reading all the wonderful news for the last several months you would think this company is fixing to come out of bankruptcy and hit the big time. Obviously they are, except without us! If you go back and read over the last couple months, you will see excellent quarterly earnings, uni and windstream making progress, rural internet expansion and the list goes on and on. This would make a stockholder very interested in purchasing more stock. Very deceiving!!
I’m not sure Windstream is out of the woods just yet. I’m sure there will be a class action lawsuit or multiple lawsuits. Can someone tell me if stockholders have any recourse in a situation like this?
Its a non negotiable security, it can't be deleted by the broker.Non negotiable security works like a contract between the issuer and receiver.These could be replaced or redeemed with a new ticker or cash as applicable.
Yep....and they will disappear worthless..but GREAT NEWS....if you need a tax write off it will be a loss!! Congratulations ! FKA WINMQ
In my account too.They will be there thru the end of liquidation and dissolution of Windstream Holdings Inc.,IMO.
Cash those puppies out....LOL!!! Having read what Windstream said...they have NO value. Congratulations to all who held and convinced others to hold ZERO value shares....WIN delisted....and shafted investors and vendors with no regard for either.
No one to sell the idea that stockholders will get their money? WINMQ delisted and private to do just exactly what they did to you all.
Yes, obviously I meant what ever the opposite of honor is. Anyone know of if there is a class action suit getting ready for litigation??
Just FYI...Plan cancelled(deemed) shares,shares got deregistered and delisted.
Ticker stayed back with description Windstream Holdings Inc bankruptcy 09/22/2020 and number of share count.
LOL! An "honor" to watch people and vendors get shafted by this scam? WINMQ....wait, there is no winmq and the scum that pushed it will just wander to the next stock and do the same thing, unless of course it's the criminal Jason Neilsen charged by the courts/DOJ/SEC for his scamming of people.
For anyone passing by here...this is NO WINMQ....commons are gone....Windstream bankrupted and went private. Count yourself blessed not to have listened to the ones telling you otherwise.
Ok. The good news is false news can’t hurt investors now since no stock called winmq exists after bk. Sadly the same people will move on to another stock to be wrong about. WINMQs now FKA. formerly known as
WINMQ is marked as a non marketable and non removable security at TDAmeri side.I am anticipating to see another cusip replacing WINMQ,hopefully.
From TD Ameritrade as of now.....Symbol Lookup
Find securities that include:
Go
Exchanges:
Type:
Company Match
No companies were found matching "winmq".
And just like that WINM ceases to exist on the stock exchange....go ahead and try to cash out. I'll wait.
DEEMED CANCELED VS CANCELED
Company’s common stock, $0.0001 par value (the “Common Stock”), outstanding prior to the effectiveness of the Plan was deemed canceled and extinguished. This Form 15 is intended to terminate the registration of the Common Stock under Section 12(g) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended (the “Exchange Act”), and to terminate and suspend all filing obligations under Section 12(g) and Section 15(d), respectively, with respect to the Common Stock.
"GOING DARK"
Windstream-Holdings-Inc-(fka-WINMQ)....No shares to trade
The commons are G O N E and everyone who held lost it all...just like they shafted the vendors....Hey...remember when I was mocked for telling everyone that commons would be gone at the end of the BK? What do we have to say now? 0 shares bought or sold today. WINMQ ...wait...FMK WIMNQ LOL
Waiting for the new cusip to appear in the account with exact share count.Some are claiming see 9738A309 in etrade.
Commons are gone. Great news
Description changed in my account WINMQ - Windstream Holdings Inc bankruptcy 09/22/2020.
Does anyone know the who the 'Administrator' will be for the estates?.
Total nonsense. The shares will have 0 value as stated by windstream. Fortunately no one can buy or sell this junk now. No more people can be fooled FKA WINMQ formerly known as
GOING DARK
Windstream Holdings II, LLC, a Delaware limited liability company (“New Windstream Holdings”), became the new parent company.
Windstream Holdings Inc has to process unsecured claims for both Obligor-Debtor and Non-Obligor debtors unsecured creditors from the reserves of disputed ownership fund.
Left overs should be distributed to original share holders after liquidating original company Windstream Holdings Inc and dissolve.
Now what is "Going Dark" ?
https://www.dorsey.com/newsresources/publications/2009/03/going-dark--voluntary-delisting-and-deregistrati__
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1282266/000114036120021108/brhc10015278_1512b.htm
Rule 12g-4(a)(1)
Form 15-12g
securities is held of record by:
(1) Fewer than 300 persons
---------
Company is Going Dark because there is fewer than 300 security holders on record, even though there could be 1000s of beneficial holders like holders on the street name.
All just in my opinion.
Again. It’s announced commons are canceled. Period. It’s not a difficult read. Windstream went private to shaft common share holders and many vendors. Simply stated they screwed everyone they could allowable by law. Sadly many uninformed folks kept promising everything would be ok and actually encouraged others to buy even when it’s been in writing for months that their shares would be canceled.
I agree shares are cancelled and unregistered.I can't sell or buy a cancelled stock.But imo, the ticker stays in the account until unsecured claims are allowed/disallowed and thru the liquidation and dissolution of Windstream Holdings Inc.JMO.
Amazing. Even this board is FKA. Commons are canceled. As it’s been stated for months the BK ended commons. Go ahead and try to buy or sell fka WINMQ
Gone where?.I still see them in my account and will see it thru the liquidation and dissolution of the debtors,hopefully.
Here's news....Commons, as I told everyone....are canceled by WINMQ (FKA WINMQ).... congratulations to all!!!
"FKA"....uh, that means FORMERLY KNOWN AS.....commons are gone. All who held lost. Others who bought because of encouraging lies....lost.
There it was, right in the court documents and yet.....WINMQ is gone
Congrats to all those who held WINMQ shares and encouraged others to buy them.
WINMQ BK PLAN effective. All shares cancelled.
https://otce.finra.org/otce/dailyList?viewType=Deletions
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