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johnson has sabotaged this company IMO. His continuing programmatic panoply of pasquinades pomposities prevarications pontifications paranormally pusillanimous paranoid pronouncements of proto-Fascist proleptic pablum have put this pitiful company into the pumper.
Hey, JAAJ, I am unable to pull up RB and think I may have inadvertently deleted it with my spy zapper. Can you post back and let me know if it is still available? I think it's my mistake, since I can't even pull it up on a search.
TIA
Rena
Is it true that Johnson, lynnguz, peterson, fitz, green are no longer invested in WTCH?
I'm looking forward to the PR that will make us all rich.
I'm sure it will be the top story on CNBC's Squawk Box.
And now David Faber with the big story on a the big story of the day; a company called Waste Drek that has an exciting new product Jizzco that's the cream of the crop for waste disposal.
Thanks, Mark. Waste Drek has quite a story to tell. In fact, they've been telling their story to anyone who will listen. I guess that makes me as gullible and stupid as all the other idiots who bought this stock, but what the heck this is just a tv show and it doesn't matter if what I say is true or not, just like it doesn't matter if what the Tuortos say is true or not.
Back to you Mark.
Thanks, David for that meaningless drivel about Waste Drek.
And now, Joe Kernen with the latest on the SEC's investigation into the Tuorto's mismanagement of Waste Drek.
Yeah, that was fast wasn't it, Mark? Right from a breaking story by David to a breaking story from me Joe Kernen, Stocks Editor for all the stupid and dumb companies that stupid and dumb investors buy stock in. It never ceases to amaze me how so many....
How much longer can the Tuortos get away with stealing from shareholders?
Keith Anderson
Has anyone called him?
Johnson, for once you had something to post that is meaningful.
I sincerely thank you for the following:
By: johnson1
05 Jul 2005, 07:12 PM EDT
Msg. 3309 of 3310
Jump to msg. #
While searching I found the following and I thought all you
fellow long of CVIA might like to know that KAA is off into
a new company, Some of you might with to join him.
HMGP -- Hemi Energy Group, Inc.
Com ($0.001)
Address:
P.O. Box 123
Graham, TX 76450
USA
Website: http://www.hemienergy.com
Phone: 940-521-9821
Business Description:
Crude oil - natural gas exploration and production company.
State of Incorporation: TX
Year of Incorporation 2001
Officers:
Keith A. Anderson, Pres. & CEO; Craig L. Treiber, COO & VP Operations
Fiscal Year End: December 31
Edgar Filing Status: Non EDGAR Filer
Sedar Filing Status: Non SEDAR Filer
Outstanding Shares: 12,937,200 as of 2005-06-21
Estimated Market Cap: Not Available
Authorized Shares: 100,000,000 as of 2005-06-21
Float: 5,262,400 as of 2005-06-21
Number of Shareholders of Record: 63 as of
Current Capital Change:
shs decreased by 1 for 38 split
Ex-Date:
Record Date:
Pay Date: 2005-06-21
Dividends:
Company Notes:
Formerly=Techvend, Inc. until 6-05
Transfer Agent:
Fidelity Transfer Co., Salt Lake City, UT 84115
The information provided here has been obtained from publicly available sources as well as directly from issuers in some cases.
All information contained herein is provided "as is." Pink Sheets LLC makes no representation or warranty, expressed or implied, as to the accuracy, timeliness, or completeness of the information provided herein. Neither Pink Sheets LLC, nor its directors, officers, employees, or third party data suppliers, shall bear any responsibility or liability to verify the information and/or its source or for the use, misuse, or inability to use the information provided. None of the foregoing parties shall be liable to any third-party claims or losses of any nature. Accordingly, investors should not use this information as the basis for making an investment decision. Please see Risk Warning and Terms of Service for more information.
Another Eugene Johnson post from Raging Bull-oney:
Yes, I remember that.
All long as they are chasing something other than their on
tails, and are working on something positive for you and I
as shareholdlers I dont really care. Just do something.
EJ
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You are wrong, Johnson. This kind of thinking is not good business and it's not good for shareholders.
If this management could have done something for shareholders they would have already done it. Management only does something for themselves, not for you, nor anyone else.
More Raging Bull from Eugene Johnson:
Sandbag If they are successful in catching the rabbit
they have been chasing, the PR will be real positive.
EJ
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The rabbit they have been chasing. Give me a break. Look at all the other rabbits they have caught previously. Would you actually eat this stew of old rabbits just because they throw in a fresh dead carcass?
This management does not know a rabbit from a duck, unless it's a sitting duck, then they seize on that.
Rabbit NO; sitting duck YES; shareholders ZERO.
Your rabbit is just another sleezy conspiritant willing to take WTCH shares and make money the old fashioned way: they steal it.
Eugene Johnson is at it again posting naive and misleading items on Raging Bull:
Mike, I am going to go out on a limb and say that management
will put out a PR in July 2005.
EJ
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Well, Eugene, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if management puts out a PR in July 2005 it will be as meaningful as all the other PRs they have put out since taking control of this trading shell.
See www.sec.gov/answers/pink
Tells all you need to know!
This is the exact reason they took us to the pink sheets. As far as I know, the SEC does not regulate the activities of pink sheet companies. If shareholders ever decide to pursue action against management, it would have to be by way of a class action suit. The actions of management are well-documented and corruption could probably be proven, but the SEC wouldn't waste their time with something like this, unless I'm mistaken? I'm sure others know much more about this than me.
It's been a year since they filed anything with the SEC (8 K)6/29/04.
Does anyone know what or how often they are reqired to file as a Pink Sheit stock?
I'm glad to hear that you would be willing to take action against management.
However, waiting for this mismanagement team to send up a puff of white smoke to signal that all is okay back at the ranch ain't gonna happen.
The funny thing about this stock is we've had the same shareholders for all these years watching every move management makes (or doesn't make) so I'm sure there are plenty of individuals who could offer testimony. I would like to wait for management's next move to see if they are still operating this company for their own personal profit or if they will begin making decisions that will be beneficial to shareholders. If it turns out to be business as usual, I think something should be done at some point in the future.
Who would be willing to offer affidavit testament as to the pain and suffering you've incurred and had to endure as a result of this seemingly predatory and unscrupulous management that most of us are in agreement on has totally abused and neglected its shareholders and may be criminally liable in their non-performance of fiduciary responsibilities to shareholders and running this company to increase shareholder value?
This is a management that has behaved badly and may merit being punished by law.
Are there any among you who feel something should be done?
Thank you for your consideration.
Rena, I feel pretty much the same way. I tend to believe in goodness and honesty, and this has been a great disappointment. I guess I finally have to accept that this investment is a "goner".
Rachel
Rena:
I and quite a few others put up our cash to try to do something. Those who were leading weren't doing out of arrogance,just a firm belief that our company was being taken away for the personal gain of those whe had been handed the reins. Unfortunately personal attacks took precedence. I don't know and won't speculate what the outcome would have been if the stockholders had banded together and taken over. It might not have come out much better,but at least we could have gotten answers,info and had the satisfaction of having tried to save our investments.
Good luck in all you do.
ANGLR
I am also amazed that this kind of thing is allowed to happen while the SEC looks the other way. A group with a pattern of moving from shell to shell, victimizing shareholders along the way, should be investigated for fraud. It is clear that management deliberately took us to the pink sheets where there are no rules and no accountability.
To all CVIA/WTCH longs (Are there any others?)
A bit of unfinished business:
For years I and a few others who were shareholders at the time of Keith's betrayal have tried to give the owners (?) a chance to succeed with this stock. We sided with them when some of our shareholders wanted to take over the company. For years we have waited, waited, waited...for some glimmer of hope. We were not only disappointed by poor business decisions, but we were totally ignored by management. I'm no longer naive enough to think citizens are protected from blatant fraud and theft by charlatans who have not conscience, but I confess I still find it hard to believe that this kind of thing continues year after year with seemingly no consequences.
My futile wish: That the old shareholders who wanted to take over had shown more sincere concern and less arrogance. I for one would have preferred old shareholders working to make a silk purse out of this sow's ear.
Perhaps things would have worked out differently.
Oh well...guess this anti-climactic baring of the soul at least gives me a little closure.
God bless you all.
Rena
I agree, it is now a proven fact that management has not acted in the best interest of shareholders.
IMO, there is no doubt that management's non-performance is intentional.
You can not expect this management team to learn from their mistakes because IMO, from their point of view, they do not consider their actions mistakes, rather they are deliberate as this is how they make their money and hide income.
You've called the company and have gotten very little information; does that really surprise you?
What needs to be done is for a group of 20 people to go to their office and confront these thieves.
Remember, this is not the first shell they've run into the ground. Does this pattern of behavior, this kind of management style really betoken a management team that's interested in running a real business that is an ongoing concern?
The answer is obviously NO!
The sooner the SEC puts these people out of business the better off all shareholders will be...whether they own WTCH stock or not.
I called several month ago and didn't get any better response. Sunday will be the deadline Jack set.
I think it is now a proven fact that management has not acted in the best interest of shareholders. It's difficult to say whether it has been intentional, incompetence, or just bad luck. The question remains if they can redeem themselves and learn from their mistakes and move this company forward. I've called the company and have gotten very little information. They say things are moving forward but I'm sure management is not giving any consideration to the average shareholder and is only looking out for their own profit. I would recommend everyone else who owns stock in this company to call and try to get answers. If we don't see results soon, I hope we can all come together and see what kind of action we could take to make sure this management group isn't allowed to do this again.
By the way, isn't Jack's deadline coming soon? I am interested to hear his thoughts? Or did he ban himself? LOL
I'm glad to see that Eugene Johnson has finally seen the light.
At last he agrees with me that management has caused injury and done disservice to shareholders.
Now, are you prepared to take action against the company?
If so what?
Ihub sucks ,lets go to RB .
.022/.025 I really don't think we need the full 60 days to know we will never have shareholder value with the current management team.
ok, thanks. i thought maybe you knew of the specific posts if there were any. i noticed a few were removed a week or so back. take care.
What I noticed was that Eugene attacked anyone and everyone who posted an opinion that disagreed with him, and then he continued to attack them. He didn't allow logical discussion.
If he was attacked in return its because it was the only way to deal with him. He didn't try to compromise with anyone unless they conformed 100% to his opinion.
tall man,
did you read any of the posts in question? i did not and just wonder how bad they were. matt says he was attacking folks, but there have been far more attacks from others in the past that were not met with this action. also, were is tomodachi? ok, he asked for no negative posts but he should have and still should come forward and explain what is going on. something smells fishy.
I would have to agree with Matt.
That is for sure.
mike, this is what matt claims:
Sent By: IH Admin [Matt] Date: 6/6/2005 4:28:05 PM
he was personally attacking folks...
As far as I know, 843-805-6620 is still the official number.
TM
... and reinstate EJ as co-moderator for an equitable balance.
I vote for Mike the Gator for Moderator. Time to install someone who won't be a self appointed despot and squasher of free speech.
Citizens of CVIA arise.....
Maybe people were banned because their posts were hurting the stock price. I can see we are in a much better situation now that those posters are gone! LOL :)
In all seriousness, once and for all we need to find out what is going on with this company. What's the phone # so we can begin making calls this week.
thats about 6 or 7
posters recently. tomodachi, where are you and how about an explaination? anybody else curious what is going on? Sal, how about an opinion? i pm'd matt/ihubadmin on friday eve but figure i probably will not hear from him till monday.
Test. I can post.
TM
I think it's time for a new moderator. A moderator is supposed to help promote conversation, not shut down a board. He already tried shutting out people who didn't post email addresses and now he is banning people for no apparent reason. I nominate Robin as the new moderator!! :)
Unless, of course, if this company is finally dead, it makes no difference anymore?
i have to think this is the death of wtch. no response from jack kinda tells another story also(to me any way). i pm'd matt to see if he new what was up. see ya.
I don't remember EJ ever doing anything that would justify being banned from this board. What the hell is going on here? I'm also curious who else has been banned? Is that why it has been so quiet around here? Everyone is banned???
OK what the heck is this all about? who else besides johnson cannot post here and why? is there something we all need to know jack?
From rbull:
ATTN: Mikepgator and others. Jack Rodgers took it upon himself to delete me from posting on IHUB along with others.
So I cannot post there and I will not kiss his or any one
elses rear to post there.
I hope he is happy and requested by phone to him to post
such so that those I call my friends could at least contact
me in other manner. He has neglected to do so up to now.
Sorry.
EJ
Who can honestly provide some acccurate and positive info? What else can be said?
Re "no negative posts"
i did not figure that meant no posts at all. My apologies. I guess i had hoped for at least some positive discussion? But since there is not even that, that alone tells a story.
OT
Planning a trip to Wisconsin in the fall. We will probably fish in Peshtigo. I do not have any firm plans yet. I will keep in touch.
I just looked for that post and it looks like those 60 days are up in just 3 weeks. I doubt we will go from 2.5 cents to "shareholder value" in just 15 trading days. I'm not sure if Jack was really being serious about that post?
Robin,
Jack asked for no negative posts for 60 days, after which if shareholder value had not increased he would join with the negative posters. Maybe the others feel the same! I guess another month won't make a difference after waiting years for anything positive. Maybe they have an incentive to wait and then it may be another mythical load of crap we're waiting on.
O.T. Are you going to Wisconsin this summer?
seems odd
eugene, tomodachi and joe all MIA.
where is everyone???
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