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The whole world can come crashing down, this will move up two points and dip into the red near end of day and even damn near finish red as it almost did today lol wack play; unless youre flipping it 17 times a day to make some real profit; this is the stupidest play to hold to overnight ever
not today, we channel till bad news hits. the day of 100$ TVIX is not in sight. this is nothing more than a hedge, or a day traders paradice. i will work the .25 gains all day every day
TVIX:
The investment seeks to replicate, net of expenses, the returns of twice (2x) the daily performance of the S&P 500 VIX Short-Term Futures index. The index was designed to provide investors with exposure to one or more maturities of futures contracts on the VIX, which reflects implied volatility of the S&P 500 index at various points along the volatility forward curve. The ETNs are linked to a multiple (2x) of the daily return of the index and do not represent an investment in the VIX.
GLTA!
no it does not! we are based on future short contracts
only if the market correct,s 100 plus points on the dow. the market is still holding strong. look at the gap today filled before noon. remember this is an election year
Glad i sold my TVIX on the open, was holding my 17.02 for a few days. This is a fear trade, and i don,t see that much fear in the next few days. will re enter 15.65 ish
Going with Devil - Bought in 5K UVXY@5.75.
Have a buy in for TVIX at 15.95
Let's see.
Who is buying? Getting time to load up again and then sell at 17+.
IMO
Hit TVIX into the close-S & P resisting 1370.
Short NFLX
TVIX @ vxx,,,,IF tvix is a 2x etn in relationship to the vxx,, why wasn't tvix up 7 to 8% at Fridays close? The vxx was up 3.67% for the day. Tvix was up 3.97%
sorry the vix already bottomed out according to the charts so 14 is unlikely. Im holding this and waiting for the correction. I wish I could day-trade it also, but I work alot. Later.
We are at a cross road
left(Bear) or right(Bulls)
The longer we trade sideway the more likely we go higher. Next Stop1400 to 1420 for the S&P and if we do get there I'm going long on shorting the market probably start a position at 1390. Flipped the TVIX on Friday for a gain and still holding the Gold and Sliver Miners. With Europe printing all this money you will see the precious metals go up and if the US come out with QE3 to the moon with the precious metals. Probably will find out this week where we go with the S&P. I'm waiting to jump in again at 14.00.
DOGMA
Roc... TVIX is an INVERSE ETN... market drops and up goes TVIX.
lol, dude TVIX has a lot to do with the market correcion... a lot.
Now please draw FAS chart for the same time period.
We need a correction. I completely agree that this rally has to release some steam. I'm down 8% on my TZA but I simply refuse to take a loss at this point. I don't remember the last time every one was so giggly about the market and no one seems to even suggest to take some profits. This is just as arrogant as everyone back in October saying that S&P is going below 900. Back then I went long and made very decent money (even though I bought TNA at $35 and watched it go to $26).
There is one problem though and this is Gov. intervention. Now EU wants to release $2 trillion "stimulus". I always thought that printing money is not good for a country but for whatever reason this is not how it works in this world. Printing money only makes the markets go up and up and up and up.
Makes you wonder if this will ever catch up or Gov.s will just find a way to sweep it under the rug forever.
You re wrong rock...fear will escalate with a correction and TVIX will rise...smart money has been shorting the mkt for a few wks... This house of cards smoke and mirrors mkt will start to fall apart leaving retail investors holding the bag yet again:)
TVIX has nothing to do with market correction, DD this note and walk away. save yourself the pain !!
Happy Trading
Mastertrader:
Many Thanks!!! do you think market is going to correct very soon???
This is what you told me last time...
If you think market correction is coming then for sure you may wanna have TVIX in your holdings. But be carefull again, there will be some days that market goes down and tvix also wil go down, and opposite is true too, market may go up and tvix also will go up. TVIX mirrors VXX 2x. Please DD what VXX stands for...
If you think market correction is coming you may wanna consider
TZA, FAZ, SQQQ, SDS, SFK...
Check all the above mentioned charts...
Now that a correction is coming, isn't the time to buy TVIX ??????? It is near its lows!!!!!!
you can sell after 1 second of your buy. but once again be carefull, TVIX is not a stock... I personally use SPY and VXX 5 min chart to trade TVIX (sort term only, can be anywhere 2-30 minutes, but allmost every time I can squeeze $.20-70 on each move).....
FOR TVIX:
can i buy and sell at any time???
lets say if i buy when market opens and it goes up ...can i sell after 5 hours?
that is my question.
My friend TVIX or any other ETF/ETN is for short term trading only.. the only time you may wanna hold/trade any perticular etf is when for example if it's a bull market and you think the market will be going north for long period of time then you may wanna consider buying/holding/trading BULL ETF's.. The opposite is true too, in a bear market buy/hold/trade BEAR ETF;s
Please find ETFs list here.....
http://etf.stock-encyclopedia.com/category/leveraged-etfs.html
it's kind of treaky to trade em, but once you know what to do they kind of become a money printing machine. The beauty of etfs that they're not stocks and have nothing to do with supply/demand. They move due to underlying sector...
Mastertrader:
Here i am.
thank you for showing me TVIX.
If i understand well, it goes up when the stocks go DOWN- is it?
is it time to jump in now as a correction is on the way?
many thanks
Recent article from Zero Hedge regarding Greece #2 bailout funds.
A objective perspective is required when digesting this bloggers opinions. These bloggers are a dime a dozen.
It will be interesting how the overall market views this bloggers opinion.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/scandal-greece-receive-negative-cash-second-bailout-it-funds-insolvent-european-banks
I got in on Friday - what do you think we might see this week?
UVXY ready to break big on any market pullback-made a nice profit on Fri.. for 1/3 the price of TVIX
thanks for the very kind and encouraging words.You are a big plus to the hub.
Again,thanks for all your positve energy.Continued success to you :)
Also,feel free to use the ignore feature on me,after all you are a paying memeber of the hub...Food for thought..Lots of luck to you my good man..
That there is written like a politician!! Give each side a little hope, but mostly keep them guessing as to what you really mean.
Compare TVIX, VXX, VIX.*
Bill Luby, the self-proclaimed expert on these things, includes a statement: "Disclosure(s): long XIV; short TVIX, UVXY and VXX at time of writing." He is ALWAYS short TVIX. If he were to ever suggest buying it for other than short-term trading, that would be highly significant.*
He includes a graph in this article, in which he talks about the "premium" on TVIX, due to "the suspension of new creation units." He says, "Once Credit Suisse closed the door for new creation units, the price of TVIX has drifted steadily higher relative to its indicative value," which would be "a real-time estimate of an ETP’s fair value, based on the most recent prices of its underlying securities."*
Premium? What "premium?" The graph clearly shows TVIX moving higher, although the price seems to be stuck so low that the untrained observer would never have noticed.*
http://etfdailynews.com/2012/02/24/the-story-of-vix-etps-relative-to-their-intraday-indicative-values-tvix-vxx-viix-xiv-uvxy/
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/bl82/VIXETPsPctIV5d022412.png
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The volatility index itself, or VIX, comes from the Chicago Board Options Exchange, and the information about it can be found on their website:
http://www.cboe.com/micro/VIX/vixintro.aspx
Scrolling down the page, they give graphs for several different time periods.*
I often use the Google finance page:
http://www.google.com/finance
Although Google gives graphs for several indexes, they don't give this one. The Google graphs give more detailed information than the CBOE, so this makes it harder to compare.*
The various exchange traded products related to the VIX seem to have totally unrelated values. They move up and down at the same time, but the numbers don't seem to be based on anything. I would assume that a VIX share would be kept at a price close to the actual VIX number. A double VIX should move up and down by twice the amount.*
From what I can see, the TVIX price seems to match pretty closely with the actual VIX. Not double, but the same. Friday's closing price was $16.66, while the VIX was 17.31 - -
Twice in February, the VIX went just barely over 20 dollars, and so did TVIX. If TVIX just barely matches the VIX, then VXX must be a half-rate fund. Whether this is "decay" or "dilution," or something else, is what we hope to find out.*
The prices of TVIX and VXX crossed over on about December 16th, at about 39 dollars. This should not happen. The baseline for both should be zero. VXX should almost exactly match the VIX, and TVIX should be approximately double both of those others.*
The suspension of new share creation should cause the price to rise, gradually. It would have to go up a little bit to match the VIX exactly, but it would have to go up a lot to give double the value.*
In any case, the volatility is good for someone who wants to trade it up and down within the trading range.*
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Also note: the (inverse) XIV forum on this website is listed in the wrong category.*
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=22231
Still with ya. Wish I would of picked up more.
I did build positions in
TYU
SPXU
both in the very low 10's.
Sold my 16s from this morning at 17.02! I'm not a big player by any means. I have a nice core position waiting for a double or more but banking a grand plus is always good! TVIX
GLTA!
I laughed when I read it, too!
now that's funny... we need you posting on here more chadism to get this "pig" going. too funny
certainly one of them and more! Go TVIX!
I agree, and the spike in oil will be the catalyst.
If you ask me, ok, I know nobody did, lol, but our day has come TVIX is going to soar from here, glta
I would hit TVIX here- looks like it's hanging in w/ S & P up
I bought UVXY..it's beat down
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72379849
Got back in at 15.70 day late but this is ready for a 20%+ day next week
Currently watching $SPX in relation to 52 week high of 1370.
Have to wonder if TVIX will retest 52 week low of 13.87.
Also, March 21 is VIX expiration date. Noting the previous run based on February 15 VIX expiration.
Food for thought.
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