Validian Corp fka VLDI

[Surwin]

Faith gets you nowhere in a stock market and especially with VLDI, only positive results supported by facts and figures. Also a little common sense goes a long way, sorry to say!

[1967novaBill]

Well said TPP I have Ultimate faith in VLDI, Thanks for your words of encouragement.

[Surwin]

Sure Bruce had a lot to gain in the past from all his lies about sales that never materialized. It allowed him to pump the stock so he could sell common shares above .03 and convertible bonds and notes to keep the company alive. Even thou he exceed the authorized common shares count on a fully diluted basis. These funds were then siphoned off to the tune of over 35M in sales and marketing expenses that only produced 5-6 license agreements that actually went nowhere. This includes the Ganthet sham that was supposed to upset the mobile messaging business with its super security. I still occasionally look for a Ganthet website or product for sale and there is nothing to find 6 years after the announcement.

My statement is fact and not opinion, since there has not been any real PR or news release on Validian since Rafael's glowing recommendation. The Rasp mention was just another sham since that report did not even cover VLDI.

Yes Bruce turns every piece of bad news to his advantage as part of his plan. Too bad some still believe him, since his real plan is covered by his lies.

Like I stated before Quantum networking will make most cyber security obsolete by the time VLDI ever raises its head from the dead.

Sorry to say with VLDI no news is bad news since Bruce has run out of options and stories to keep the company alive. Dead is dead when it comes to VLD and any investment in the company. That is definitely my opinion but it is based on facts!

[The Penny Preacher]

May I suggest that you might start by believing the CEO of the company since he has absolutely NOTHING to gain by lying to you? He isn't selling the shareholders ANYTHING. He has NEVER dumped shares of stock on the market to put money in his own pocket. Most of the money that some have suggested he STOLE from the company was his own money ($35million of it at least), or money from his own family, closest friends, and lifetime business associates, some of whom invested in numerous other companies he has taken to profit. He has NEVER pumped his stock to raise money from us, not even once in twenty years. EVERY SINGLE CLAIM he has made in his PRs that could possibly be confirmed without derailing his plan has been confirmed. Now even RASP has acknowledged that VLDI is part of their cybersecurity product line. And the delisting of VLDI to the gray market has not changed ANY of that. And if you will think about it for even one second, you will see that all the delisting has done is give Bruce Benn the chance to finish his business plan in the dark without interference by VLDI's competition or its shareholders, rather than requiring him to make quarterly and annual disclosures of his progress. From Bruce's point of view that is a MAJOR advantage. If the man intended to harm us he would have done it YEARS AGO, and he CERTAINLY would not have waited for two years without any SEC reports to do it. He has effectively been in the dark for over two years, and the company is not only still in business, but it has also updated its website, activated its support email address, and has now been touted twice for its participation in RASP, a M\AJOR WORLD-CLASS INTERNATIONAL effort that is going to change the way the entire world approaches cybersecurity.

RELAX. IN MY OPINION, YOUR MONEY IS SAFE. When the dust settles, I FULLY EXPECT that you are going to be RICH beyond your wildest expectations.

And the GOOD NEWS IS, since they are on the Gray Market, you are being forced to let Bruce Benn make you rich even if you don't want him to. LOL

JMHO

TPP

[shapeman]

I have no idea who to agree with. This is torture at this point. I feel like I’m being teased. Totally don’t know what or who to believe anymore

[1967novaBill]

I disagree and agree with TPP

[The Penny Preacher]

Disagree

[Willy]

Agree

[Surwin]

The last real news for VLDI was November 28, 2017. That was Rafael's glowing recommendation and since then really nothing exempt for VLDI's removal from any real trading platform.

I would not hold my breath on VLDI coming out with any real news before Quantum networking makes all security platforms obsolete. My guess that is in 5 -10 years. And since any news on VLDI would have limited impact due to no valid market trades the stock do not count on ever getting a penny back for your shares.

[The Penny Preacher]

Regarding where to look for news on VLDI, one source will always be VLDI's website. Another should be your broker. And if you use a separate trading platform like ThinkOrSwim, they should have a news feed. And there are free stock news services that you can subscribe to. I have used https://www.easystockalerts.com/ for many years.

TPP

[1967novaBill]

I have a question for TPP , in your last comment you mentioned getting up every morning and looking for news. Where is a good place to look for news ? I just dont know where to look or whats good for research on their progress forward.
Any ideas would be very helpful to us "Believers" I look here during the day for any messages that you may have posted.

[1967novaBill]

Great to hear from you TPP , your words are always encouraging.
I was just looking for a little positive thinking.
Thanks

[The Penny Preacher]

I am still as confident as ever that VLDI is the real deal. And I am hopeful that this saga will be over before the end of summer. I wake up daily looking for news of positive changes.

My expectation is that VLDI will make announcements that will make them worth no less than $20 per share with a real chance of triple-digit dollar buyout values.

I fully expect Validian and ValidianProtect to be household names that are as well known as Norton, McAfee, or CrowdStrike. The only difference will be that VP actually works and none of the others do.

The good news is that since VLDI has been delisted to the gray market, it has made it impossible or nearly impossible for weak hands to cave in to all of the negative hype and sell at a loss. Those who would have sold out of fear or disappointment have been forced to hold onto their stock. IMHO, they will soon be thrilled they did.

Just my opinion.

TPP

[1967novaBill]

Any encouraging words from TPP ? Those of us that have faith need a little
bit of good news

[Surwin]

I pray for them and everyday for the people in the Ukraine and that someone soon takes out Putin!

[The Penny Preacher]

Pray for the families of those murdered in Uvalde, TX.

Pray for the people of Uvalde.

Pray for the first responders.

Pray for our Nation.

TPP

[DP1011]

Sorry but someone has to tell the truth.

[DP1011]

Wow, really?? Your money is gone.

[Surwin]

You can not buy the stock and you can not sell the stock so yes it requires magic which VLDI ran out of many years ago!

[Willy]

I second that motion...HOW?????

[shapeman]

Simple question. How?

[1967novaBill]

I agree with TPP , its more valuable than ever!

[The Penny Preacher]

ABSOLUTELY!

More than I have ever dared to hope for.

TPP

[shapeman]

Of course I agree with you. Dead. Just wanted to hear the last word from TPP

[Willy]

Bruce does not have to report anything to the shareholders or the OTC Market and the stock is delisted. How can the common shareholders make any money?

[shapeman]

So do you still think we are going to make money off this company?

[The Penny Preacher]

The 12(j) filing today is simply the SEC announcing that they have delisted VLDI stock three days earlier than it would have been delisted if they had not filed the 12(j). The original filing by VLDI of the Form-15 would have resulted in an automatic delisting of the stock next Monday. The SEC simply expedited that delisting by three days. Apparently, some of the SEC regulators stopped watching NetFlix and porn sites long enough to do their job and they rushed the 12(j) decision so they could proactively delist VLDI today instead of allowing the default delisting on Monday, so they could look like they are actually earning their paychecks.

TPP

[Renee]

VLDI SEC registration revoked:

https://www.sec.gov/litigation/opinions/2022/34-94949.pdf

[Willy]

what they are saying is that no company has publicly announced they have purchased the product

[Willy]

Everyone knows that VLDI is a scam and VP doesn't work

Most are not saying that VP does not work, what they are saying is that no company has publicly announced they have purchased the product. I guess there could be a number of reason for that, one of which could be that no company wants the world to know what cyber security program they are using.

[Willy]

He has no desire to keep the company alive and could have sold VP long ago. No one would know not even the debt holders. Bruce could have just faded into the sunset with all the money and no way to trace him.

[Surwin]

The debt holders have a direct line to Bruce and they do not rely on Public information. Bruce has to tell them what's is going on if he wants to keep this company alive. Very simple If there is anything worth anything Bruce will do what ever necessary to keep them happy.

[Willy]

Your message to [e-mail] couldn't be delivered.
info wasn't found at validian.com.

[Willy]

But my question has never been answered. With VLDI on the Grays and Bruce not having to report anything....HOW do the debt holders know anything about what is going on.

[Surwin]

What is very strange is that Bruce doesn't care about the common shareholders and has done absolutely nothing to bring them any value in the last 4-5 years. The product may work but it doesn't work well enough that anyone that has trialed the product is willing to pay to use the product on a ongoing basis. Just the facts!

[Surwin]

Debt holders always have first priority and much more control of a company, since they can wipeout the common share holders and take control of the company, especially under the current circumstances. The problem with VLDI there is nothing to take control of, only spin stories.

[The Penny Preacher]

May I suggest that these are the only email addresses that really matter...

[e-mail]

[e-mail]

And one of them is now working.

I wonder why Bruce would activate the support address if VP has no customers or prospects, and Bruce is trying to hide from the world? VERY STRANGE.

Gee, does this mean that he is actually trying to monetize VP? NAAAAAH, couldn't be that simple.

Everyone knows that VLDI is a scam and VP doesn't work. I read it on the Internet, so, it must be true.

TPP

[Willy]

Do the note holders, bond holders and preferred have any say over a gray sheet company who's CEO has filed so that he does not have to report anything to anyone? Lets say Bruce sells VP for 100 million. Who's to know? He does not have to report the sale anywhere. How do the bond holders, note holders and preferred know what's going on????

[Willy]

I got no reply either but the address is real.

[BigBaboon]

Elon Musk wants end-to-end encryption for twitter DM’s. !
Sounds like a job for VP???

[Willy]

Absolutely correct. He could care less about VP, the stock or the company. He's sitting on 30 to 35 million in cash taken from shareholders. To bad the SEC could care less about this kind of CEO.

Simply just realize that over the years he spent about $15+ million on Research and Development and over $35M on sales and Marketing without any real sales, It is just too obvious he simply took the common shareholders for a ride and pocketed most of the sales and marketing expense.

[shapeman]

I’ve been in this a lot less than most of you. As I posted before I’m giving it until the end of this year before I give up on this completely. I’ll hold on to a little hope until then

[The Penny Preacher]

Just too bad the road signs and the spins stories are polar opposites!

Exactly!

Thanks for the help.

TPP

[Surwin]

Just too bad the road signs and the spins stories are polar opposites!

[The Penny Preacher]

the road signs have been there all along but so have the spin stories

My point exactly!

Thanks for the confirmation.

TPP

[Surwin]

Do not confuse spin stories for a business plan when he has failed at every turn to make one single sale that produces on going revenue. Do not confuse silence for something is brewing since the 6 license agreements that he did sell went nowhere, including Ganthet. Do not confuse letting VLDI go grey as part of his plan when he is forced to do it by all his failures.

Just use a little logic of why have a public company if he could have done all this as a private company without common shareholders. Simply just realize that over the years he spent about $15+ million on Research and Development and over $35M on sales and Marketing without any real sales, It is just too obvious he simply took the common shareholders for a ride and pocketed most of the sales and marketing expense.

Why doesn't Bruce break the silence and put out a shareholder letter to let everyone know what happen to the 20+ qualified leads in various stages of negotiations and his plans to sell the company over that last 4 years. Once again a little logic goes a long way when you consider VP is supposed to be middleware that is easy to integrate within days or weeks with most existing cybersecurity software. So if it is so great why has everyone that tested the software for 4 months for free simply walked away from the software.

Yes the road signs have been there all along but so have the spin stories.

[The Penny Preacher]

Do not confuse Bruce Benn's ridiculous business plan and his outrageous silence with failure. VLDI is far from dead. Being delisted to the gray market has simply given Bruce the opportunity to complete his plan in the dark. But, like all business plans, at some point what he has accomplished will have to be made public. And if he has accomplished all that I believe he has, when that happens VLDI will either be bought out, possibly for double-digit dollars, or listed on a MAJOR exchange at mid-single-digit dollars and blast off from there.

IMO, failure is not a possibility unless he messes around and waits for the stock market to crash later this year or sometime in '23, or he is foolish enough to wait until WW3 turns nuclear.

My only concern is that I believe he is arrogant enough to think he can make his plan work even in the face of those events. Such hubris is unpredictable and therefore frightening.

However all of that being said, I cannot imagine a scenario in which even Bruce Benn will unnecessarily delay the monetization of VP for even a single day.

JMHO

TPP

[DP1011]

It was over a long time ago. I keep it on my list as a reminder.

[1967novaBill]

Don't jump ship yet1 Hold for The Penny Preacher to tell us its over , Its far from over . Its soon to take off any day now . Hang on "Brother"

[shapeman]

Should I unfollow now and say goodbye to all?

I enjoyed the exchange of opinions.

Hopefully we’ve all learned from this