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Ha-ha - ha - Hey try taking this 4 hour long video train trip (and tell me what U think if ya' want) ........
Skip to ? or start at (I liked) the 40 and 50 minute marks (which just happens to be all that I've watched thus far....
This airline is a consolidator, in 2009 had good reviews aso seems legit. Can save 35% but their main forte is doing multiple stopovers cheaper than anyone.
https://www.airtreks.com/airfare/specials/
Interesting way to fly cheaper
(CNN) — Nobody who sold you that instant oatmeal, jar of multivitamins, bar of soap, perfume-free laundry detergent, latest best-seller, NASCAR tickets or whatever Gwyneth Paltrow sells on her website will come after you to make sure you used your purchases.
But the world's biggest airlines might.
They require that you fly all the flights you've booked or pay the price. They might take away your frequent flier miles, ban you from the airline or even sue you.
"So, if I don't eat all my steak at Peter Luger's, are they going to sue me now?" Delta Air Lines frequent flier Billy Stocklin says. "It's my ticket and seat. I bought it. If I use it or not is none of your business."
The airlines beg to differ.
Lufthansa sues passenger who skipped his flight
What is hidden city ticketing?
"Hidden city ticketing" is a longtime, under-the-radar practice of the most astute, rule-breaking fliers. It's now taking center stage in a lawsuit filed by Lufthansa, one of the world's largest airlines.
Lufthansa is suing a passenger who skipped out on the last leg of his ticketed purchase, demanding the money he would have paid for his actual journey. (The case was dismissed, but the airline has appealed.)
It can get complicated. Let's say you need to fly from New York City to Los Angeles, and the cheapest ticket you can find is selling for $500. There's another flight from New York to Reno, Nevada -- with a layover in Los Angeles -- that only costs $350.
If you get off the plane in Los Angeles -- throwing away the second flight from Los Angeles to Reno -- you'll get to La La Land at a "discount."
Airlines generally prohibit it in the fine print most passengers don't read, because they'd rather you pay $500 than $350 for your flight.
Hidden city ticketing may have remained hidden but for a 20-something named Aktarer Zaman. Zaman launched Skiplagged, a website designed to take advantage of the complicated ways airlines price their tickets.
United Airlines promptly sued him, but the case was dismissed in 2015, and the site is still operational.
Airlines charge more when they can
It's an issue because of the way airlines price their flights, says aviation expert Benét J. Wilson, owner and editor of Aviation Queen.
"Fares tend to be higher in general for more popular cities or ones where airlines don't have a lot of competition," she says. "For example, fortress hubs such as Frankfurt for Lufthansa, Atlanta for Delta, Dallas/Fort Worth for American and Newark for United fares have higher fares because more passengers fly through them to get where they need to go."
"Flights that don't have as many passengers are priced lower, and flights where the airline is just relocating the plane and trying to make some money to offset the costs will typically be priced lower," says Jeffrey C. Price, owner of Leading Edge Strategies and an aviation professor at Metropolitan State University Denver.
"Cities where there isn't a high demand can actually be priced higher due to the limited amount of flights in and out," says Price. "When there's only one or two flights a day out of some of these small airports, the airlines will charge what the market will bear."
It's not about the specific fare
Lufthansa, which made $41.5 billion last fiscal year, is suing the unnamed passenger for $2,392 for using the technique. While he's fighting back, others may not be able to finance a defense against a major airline.
Lufthansa spokesman Tal Muscal declined to comment, citing ongoing litigation.
The airline alleges that their customer booked a roundtrip from Oslo to Seattle with a layover in Frankfurt. On the return trip, the customer got off in Frankfurt, didn't fly to Oslo and instead booked a separate Lufthansa flight from Frankfurt to Berlin. (He did show his hand by booking the second flight on the same airline as his first flight.)
It's against the airline's contract of carriage (PDF), which is often hard to find on an airline's website.
"If carriage is not used on all individual legs or not used in the sequence anticipated on the ticket with otherwise unchanged travel data, we will recalculate the fare according to your altered routing," reads the Lufthansa contract.
"The fare will thereby be determined which you would have had to pay for your actual routing in your price group on the day of your reservation. This fare may be higher or lower than the fare you originally paid."
There is a price to pay
Even if the airline loses on appeal, it's sending a message to fliers willing to game the system that there may be a cost.
At the same time, the suit highlights how airlines can charge customers more to fly less.
"It's easy to understand why some travelers are tempted to risk it, especially if you live in a city where you don't have a lot of airline choices," Wilson says.
But she warns that you could be penalized if you're caught. "That can range from forcing you to pay the full fare you tried to avoid or even taking away your frequent flier miles.
Try this link
https://www.travelzoo.com/collection/big-city-deals/
Need to get this:
$299
China 8-Night Tour w/Flights
they send the deals out as they get them and then once a week on Wednesday, a Top20
Oh ok, I get emails from them. I'm sure I get it.
In Canada, TravelZoo emails out a Top 20 every Wednesday of a summary of their best deals of the past week. I suspect it is similar in the US.
My pick for presumed cheapest flight and board ever:
Travelzoo Newsflash [top20deals@email.travelzoo.com]
That actually makes it more valuable as culls the mob.
You can only fly to Terceira from Boston, so these savings make it worth it to find a cheap flight to Boston from your closest airport.
$499.00: 7 days eating out just breakfast and dinner for 7 days in NYC but at this place 850 miles west of Portugal they throw in the 4 star hotel with air travel just for being nice enough to book this flight and if ya love the lava sights, pay me a commission, lol!!!!
https://www.travelzoo.com/vacations/europe/-499-Explore-Portugal-s-Azores-Islands-7-Nights-w-Air-2691109/?ec=1
Didn't you live there at one point?
beautiful city...
I wanted to go to Vienna and was too expensive so booked NY Vienna Israel and saved 30%.
Always cheaper with one stop or more stops but that site will help me more I hope, as usually thought cheaper with a stopover before "target" destination not after target destination..
Wow, that looks interesting! I will bookmark that. Never saw it before. You have used it?
A must as cheaper to travel to places with a stop and airlines fought to stop this site ( or made them have to use the leg they bought):
https://skiplagged.com/
I was not thrilled that United was the airline that was chosen and now it remains to be seen if they will be crediting us for the cancelled flight.
Put some pics on this board! I want to see them!
United! Again! They are the pits!
I even found a casino in Dublin!
We only popped in for about 10 minutes and I dropped 10 Euros.
It was a bus through CIE Tours. The guide was great and the 43 people with us were also great.
The downside is living out of a suitcase because we were at a different hotel almost every night.
I highly recommend CIE and the only problem we had was our flight home was cancelled by United at 12:30am and we had to scramble to get another flight through Aer Lingus
I am exhausted!
cool...I'm hoping to stay at a Holiday Inn Express in a few days!
Oh wow! Was it a self guided tour where you drove yourself or did you get on a bus. If so, how was that? How did you like the tour company?
I just got back from my trip to Ireland.
What a great trip! We started in Dublin and went around the entire coast up to Northern Ireland and ended up in Dublin.
Waterford, Blarney Castle, Ring of Kerry, Cliffs of Moher (sp), Giants Causeway, Derry, Belfast, Guinness Storehouse, to name a few.
Travel warning tip for sexual displayed women.
Egypt
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Thank you for your contribution, fung derf. I'll definitely add it in when I do my next roundup.
We just got back from staying at these two places and would definitely recommend them...
https://www.destinationhotels.com/cliff-house.... Ogunquit, Maine
https://www.omnihotels.com/hotels/bretton-woods-mount-washington.... White Mountains, NH
Hi folks, compiling a list of nice locales with cool temps for us to escape the summer heat next year.
Please feel free to send in your fav, either to the linked board, PM me or post here and indicate I may add your contribution.
Enjoy!
MG
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I don't understand
I met some relatives when I was there in 1970 but I think most of them are dead now.
I may have some distant cousins but I'm not sure. Before I go I will talk to my Aunt who is 96 and see if anyone is left and where they are.
Do you know them well? If we ever tried going to Ireland and passed up visiting we would be on Meaney-chit-list forever - and believe me, they would find out about it!!!
There is some down time I believe mostly in the evening.
The one regret that I have is that we won't be going to the towns where I have relatives.
Apparently we have some cousins who live in Dublin so we hope to see them but my mother's family is in Bantry and although we may go near there on the bus we won't be stopping.
That looks great - you will be stopping at both The Cliffs and Ring of Kerry. Will you be on a bus? This is the exact type of tour I would love to do. Problem is...RELATIVES!!!! When we went there we had to spend most of the time visiting. I didn't get to see most of Ireland because of this. I didn't even get to Dublin. Spent time in Limerick and in County Clare. Do they give you down time on this tour?
It looks like it will take us there.
Authentic Local Experiences:
•Immerse yourself in country life as you watch a farmer work with highly skilled dogs to herd sheep.
•Visit the last port of call of the Titanic where a local guide will reveal many of the places that still remain over a century since travellers embarked on that fateful voyage.
Trip Highlights:
• Blarney Castle
• Cliffs of Moher
•Cobh Titanic Walking Tour
• Dunbrody Emigrant Ship
• Giant's Causeway
• Knock Shrine
• Skellig Experience
• Titanic Belfast
Dining Experiences:
•Five dinners including a traditional Irish dinner and show at Glyde Inn.
Hotels:
•Clayton Hotel Cardiff Lane
4 star hotel
Cardiff Lane, Dublin (1 night)
•Dooley's Hotel
3 star hotel
Waterford (1 night)
•International Hotel
4 star hotel
Killarney (2 nights)
•Ardilaun Hotel
4 star hotel
Galway (1 night)
•Everglades Hotel
4 star hotel
Derry (1 night)
•Croke Park Hotel
4 star hotel
Dublin (1 night)
All CIE Tours Include:
•Full daily breakfast (except Day 1)
•All on-tour transportation including shuttles and ferries
•Welcome get-together drink with your group
•Free Wi-Fi on coaches so you can stay connected along the way
•Documents wallet and backpack to keep you organized
•All local taxes, hotel service charges & handling of one suitcase per person
2018 IRISH ADVENTURE - 8 DAYS / 7 NIGHTS
Day 1: DUBLIN TOUR & BOOK OF KELLS
Tour begins 2:00 PM, Dublin hotel. Set out on an introductory tour of central Dublin. Highlights include 18th century Georgian houses with brightly-painted doors, tranquil parks and the wide O’Connell Street. Take a guided walking tour through the campus of Trinity College to view the illuminated manuscript of the Book of Kells. In the evening, enjoy a welcome drink with your group before dining independently in one of Dublin’s many restaurants or lively pubs.
Day 2: 6TH CENTURY GLENDALOUGH & DUNBRODY FAMINE SHIP
Enjoy the delightful scenery of the Wicklow Mountains on the way to Glendalough, one of Ireland’s most beautiful destinations. Explore the remains of one of the most important monastic sites in Ireland, founded by St. Kevin in the 6th century. Walk through the deep valley to view the picturesque ruins of a round tower, churches and Celtic crosses. Continue to New Ross to the Dunbrody Famine Ship, a reconstructed 19th century vessel showing the harsh sailing conditions for emigrants on the way to North America. Relax as you continue to Waterford. After dinner, take a gentle stroll around the narrow streets of the historic city with a local guide.
(B, D)
Day 3: WATERFORD CRYSTAL & BLARNEY CASTLE
Witness the creation of crystal masterpieces during your visit to the House of Waterford Crystal. Travel via Dungarvan to Cobh, the last port of call of the Titanic. A walking tour will reveal many of the places that still remain over a century since travellers embarked on that fateful voyage. Visit Blarney Castle to kiss the famous “Stone of Eloquence” or explore the tranquil gardens. Treat yourself to quality Irish-made goods at Blarney Woollen Mills. Journey west through rugged countryside and settle in to your centrally-located hotel in Killarney.
(B, D)
Day 4: RING OF KERRY DRIVE & SKELLIG EXPERIENCE
Discover the natural beauty of the Emerald Isle on Ireland’s most popular scenic drive, the Ring of Kerry, with plenty of photo stops along the way. Cross the bridge to Valentia Island to visit the Skellig Experience, which explains the life of early Christian hermits on Skellig Michael, a rocky offshore island that was featured in the “Star Wars VII” movie. Pause for lunch and a stroll around Sneem, and another stop at Moll’s Gap for panoramic views. Enjoy the evening in Killarney for dinner on your own and perhaps a visit to one of the town’s many lively pubs.
(B, L)
Day 5: CLIFFS OF MOHER & GALWAY
Embark on a memorable ferry ride across the River Shannon Estuary. Travel along the coast of County Clare to view the Cliffs of Moher, which soar almost 700 feet (200m) above the churning Atlantic swells. Walk along the top of the cliffs to O’Brien’s Tower for great views of Galway Bay and the Aran Islands. Head to Galway to join a local guide for a brief stroll through the twisting streets of the old city before spending some time on your own.
(B, D)
Day 6: SHEEPDOGS & DERRY’S MEDIEVAL WALLS
Immerse yourself in Irish farm life during a visit to an authentic working farm and watch trained sheepdogs round up mountain sheep. Explore the pilgrimage town of Knock, one of the world’s leading shrines. Visit the church where villagers saw a vision of the Virgin Mary in 1879. Head to Donegal town for some free time in this charming town. On arrival in Derry meet a local guide to discover the history of this ancient city which retains its medieval fortification walls dating from 1613.
(B, D)
Day 7: GIANT'S CAUSEWAY & GLYDE INN
Explore the northern coastline, stopping for photos at the sprawling ruins of Dunluce Castle. Visit the Giant’s Causeway, enormous hexagonal columns formed by volcanic activity over 60 million years ago. Visit Titanic Belfast and learn about the ill-fated ship through state-of-the-art displays. See the docks where this famous liner was built just over a century ago. Stop at the Glyde Inn for a farewell dinner with Irish specialties and entertaining traditional Irish songs and music.
(B, D)
Day 8: TOUR ENDS IN DUBLIN
Your tour ends after breakfast.
(B)
B: Breakfast; L: Lunch; D: Dinner
I'm sure they will take you there and to Ring of Kerry too.
I have the itinerary at home
Will the tour take you here: https://www.cliffsofmoher.ie/
rotf that sounds like me except I had Jerry's cousin (from Ireland) in the back seat and Jerry in the front - he screamed like a little girl the whole time I was driving and his cousin was hysterical laughing - she still tells the story today
That's right...it's tax time for you
When I went to Ireland back in 1970 with my Grandmother, two Aunts, and a cousin my Aunt did the driving. I'm surprised I am still her to tell the tale!
She was fine as long as we were driving straight. Every time she made a turn she would start to go to the right side of the road.
Between that and all of the sheep, being in a car was an adventure!
crap...bad timing....
It occured to me that many people here travel & do research on various destinations prior to making their arrangements. In addition, many can offer tips based on their completed travels and, in so doing, assist others who may have some questions WRT their plans.
Here are a couple of sites that iHubbers have found useful in the past:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/
http://www.expedia.com/
http://www.cheaptickets.com/
http://www.cheapflights.com/
http://www.travelocity.com/
http://www.travelzoo.com/
http://www.airbrokers.com/html/around_the_world_tickets.php
http://www.orbitz.com/
http://www.hotels.com/
http://www.kayak.com
http://seatguru.com
http://www.mobissimo.com
http://www.debbiesdominicantravel.com/travel2.html
http://www.shermanstravel.com/
http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/index.cfm
http://www.couchsurfing.com/
http://www.hotwire.com/
http://www.cheapcaribbean.com/
http://www.spirit.com
http://www.bookthatfare.com
Name Your Price:
http://www.priceline.com
http://www.biddingfortravel.com
http://www.parisattitude.com/
the link pasted above is a great way to find lodging in paris
So have at it and Happy Travels!!!
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