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I think it was pretty even, from what I saw, with regards to the "interpretations" about his body language.
No wonder that "science" isn't allowed in a court of law.
That should disqualify someone from being on a jury! LOL
There's a pretty big difference between having a conversation with someone on I hub, and reporting stories in front of millions of people on global TV.
And still, here you are discussing the Tiger interview, just like the media wants you to. ( :
It's all another reason why I watch the news less and less anymore
Ya can't fight human nature. ( ;
Well, what do you expect from likkered up people in a bar? lol
Everyone was laughing and booing and mocking.
I agree completely. The guy just want's to try and get and get on with his life. The media needs to back off him. They've had their big headline news stories about him. As far as I'm concerned it's a personal matter between him and his wife from this point on.
well beleive it. there are guys that actually can get lots of nice stuff on the side and DONT
So am I to interpret your statement that because I do not cheat on my wife that I am not a real man?
wow that isqwuite an attitude.
...I find it hard to believe that the majority of real men in a sports bar would not chase the poodie woodie if they had it thrown at them
maybe real men pump worthless scams
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There was this AH lady channeling "lie to me" all over the networks with her BS abody his body language...It was pathetic how they let her go unchallenged with BS...
Most people envy tigre his fame and fortune...he is in a no win situation...as far as I am concerned he did what he could. He doesn't need to grovel and beg for "stinking ass sinner" man's forgiveness...no one in human skin can really cast the 1st stone...the hipocracy killing me...I hope he never ever grovels.. So what if some never forget...many of those folk never liked him in the 1st place..
He is not a public speaker...he said all the right words...I find it hard to believe that the majority of real men in a sports bar would not chase the poodie woodie if they had it thrown at them... Unless you go to the lamest SP in the world...
I could not believe how all over the map the "critiques" of his apology were. Obviously that had to be really hard for Tiger to do. The guy's embarrassed, disappointed in himself, feeling pretty down, what the heck do all these critics expect???
The level of news reporting in the modern era just keeps getting worse and worse. If they can't create a story, within a story, within a story they aren't pleased. The smuttier and degrading they can make it look, the better in most of these guys points of view.
It's all another reason why I watch the news less and less anymore.
I was at a sports bar last night that was packed. They turned up the volume for a re-run of the Tiger conference. NOt a dry eye in the place. Everyone was laughing and booing and mocking.
he sure didnt do a very convincing job
Sometimes Smith is an AH...I thought Tiger was on the money
Smith tells it like it is. Tiger is a joke for late night TV.
Stephen A. Smith is crushing el tigre...
Text of the Apology
The Tiger Woods Ponte Vedra Transcript (from CBS)...
CBS: The following is a transcript of Tiger Woods' remarks at the TPC Sawgrass Clubhouse in Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla., Friday, Feb. 19, 2010.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/19/sportsline/main6223331.shtml
Good morning, and thank you for joining me.
Many of you in this room are my friends. Many of you in this room know me. Many of you have cheered for me, you worked with me, or you supported me. Now every one of you has good reason to be critical of me. I want to say to each of you, simply and directly, I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior I engaged in.
I know people want to find out how I could be so selfish and so foolish. People want to know how I could have done these things to my wife, Elin, and to my children. And while I have always tried to be a private person, there are some things I want to say.
Elin and I have started the process of discussing the damage caused by my behavior. As Elin pointed out to me, my real apology to her will not come in the form of words. It will come from my behavior over time. We have a lot to discuss. However, what we say to each other will remain between the two of us.
I am also aware of the pain my behavior has caused to those of you in this room. I have let you down. And I have let down my fans. For many of you, especially my friends, my behavior has been a personal disappointment. To those of you who work for me, I have let you down personally and professionally. My behavior has caused considerable worry to my business partners, to everyone involved in my foundation, including my staff, board of directors, sponsors, and most importantly, the young students we reach. Our work is more important than ever. Thirteen years ago, my dad and I envisioned helping young people achieve their dreams through education. This work remains unchanged and will continue to grow. From the Learning Center students in Southern California to the Earl Woods scholars in Washington, D.C., millions of kids have changed their lives and I am dedicated to making sure that continues.
But still, I know I have bitterly disappointed all of you. I have made you question who I am and how I could have done the things I did. I'm embarrassed that I have put you in this position. For all that I have done, I am so sorry. I have a lot to atone for.
But there's one issue I really want to discuss. Some people have speculated that Elin somehow hurt or attacked me on Thanksgiving night. It angers me that people would fabricate a story like that. Elin never hit me that night or any other night. There has never been an episode of domestic violence in our marriage, ever. Elin has shown enormous grace and poise throughout this ordeal. Elin deserves praise, not blame. The issue involved here was my repeated irresponsible behavior. I was unfaithful. I had affairs, I cheated. What I did is not acceptable. And I am the only person to blame.
I stopped living by the core values that I was taught to believe in. I knew my actions were wrong, but I convinced myself that normal rules didn't apply. I never thought about who I was hurting. Instead I thought only about myself. I ran straight through the boundaries that a married couple should live by. I thought I could get away with whatever I wanted to. I felt that I had worked hard my entire life and deserved to enjoy all the temptations around me. I felt I was entitled. Thanks to money and fame, I didn't have far - I didn't have to go far to find them. I was wrong, I was foolish. I don't get to play by different rules. The same boundaries that apply to everyone apply to me. I brought this shame on myself. I hurt my wife, my kids, my mother, my wife's family, my friends, my foundation, and kids all around the world who admired me.
I've had a lot of time to think about what I've done. My failures have made me look at myself in a way I never wanted to before. It's now up to me to make amends, and that starts by never repeating the mistakes I've made. It's up to me to start living a life of integrity.
I once heard, and I believe it's true, it's not what you achieve in life that matters; it's what you overcome. Achievements on the golf course are only part of setting an example. Character and decency are what really count. Parents used to point at me as a role model for their kids. I owe all those families a special apology. I want to say to them that I am truly sorry.
It's hard to admit that I need help, but I do. For 45 days, from the end of December to early February, I was in in-patient therapy receiving guidance for the issues I'm facing. I have a long way to go. But I've taken my first steps in the right direction.
As I proceed, I understand people have questions. I understand the press wants me to - wants to ask me for the details of the times I was unfaithful. I understand people want to know whether Elin and I will remain together. Please know that as far as I'm concerned, every one of these questions, and answers, is a matter between Elin and me. These are issues between a husband and a wife.
Some people have made up things that never happened. They said I used performance-enhancing drugs. This is completely and utterly false.
Some have written things about my family. Despite the damage I have done, I still believe it is right to shield my family from the public spotlight. They did not do these things; I did. I have always tried to maintain a private space for my wife and children. They have been kept separate from my sponsors, from my commercial endorsements. When my children were born, we only released photographs so that the paparazzi could not chase them. However, my behavior doesn't make it right for the media to follow my two-and-a-half-year-old daughter to school and report the school's location. They staked out my wife and they pursued my mom. Whatever my wrongdoings, for the sake of my family: Please leave my wife and kids alone.
I recognize I have brought this on myself, and I know, above all, I am the one who needs to change. I owe it to my family to become a better person. I owe it to those closest to me to become a better man. That's where my focus will be. I have a lot of work to do, and I intend to dedicate myself to doing it.
Part of following this path for me is Buddhism, which my mother taught me at a young age. People probably don't realize it, but I was raised a Buddhist, and I actively practiced my faith from childhood until I drifted away from it in recent years. Buddhism teaches that a creation of things outside ourselves causes an unhappy and pointless search for security. It teaches me to stop following every impulse and to learn restraint. Obviously, I lost track of what I was taught.
As I move forward, I will continue to receive help because I've learned that's how people really do change. Starting tomorrow, I will leave for more treatment and more therapy. I would like to thank my friends at Accenture and the players in the field this week for understanding why I'm making these remarks today. In therapy, I've learned the importance of looking at my spiritual life and keeping in balance with my professional life. I need to regain my balance and be centered, so I can say the things that are most important to me: My marriage and my children. That also means relying on others for help. I learned to seek support from my peers in therapy, and I hope someday to return that support to others who are seeking help.
I do plan to return to golf one day. I just don't know when that day will be. I don't rule out that it will be this year. When I do return, I need to make my behavior more respectful of the game.
In recent weeks, I have received many thousands of e-mails, letters and phone calls from people expressing good wishes. To everyone who has reached out to me and my family, thank you. Your encouragement means the world to Elin and me. I want to thank the PGA Tour, Commissioner Finchem, and the players for their patience and understanding while I work on my private life. I look forward to seeing my fellow players on the course.
Finally, there are many people in this room, and there are many people at home who believed in me. Today I want to ask for your help. I ask you to find room in your heart to one day believe in me again.
Thank you. ###
If it were a dime she's lower herself to take it...
I wonder how much she's been paid??
there is no proof or credibility to this story..
Report: Tiger impregnated porn star
Tiger Woods allegedly impregnated his porn star mistress twice, both times when his wife was also pregnant, according to an interview with the woman set to air Monday.
Joslyn James said her lengthy and steamy affair with Tiger Woods always involved unprotected sex.
Using protection "was never talked about," the actress told U.S. television show "Inside Edition."
"It was never protected."
James, 32, who carried on an affair with Woods from 2006 to 2009, said she miscarried in her first pregnancy at about the same time his wife, Elin Nordegren, gave birth to daughter Sam Alexis on June 18, 2007.
James said she aborted her next pregnancy close to the Feb. 8, 2009, birth of Woods' son Charlie Axel.
Woods was never told about either pregnancy, she said, claiming she "just didn't want to ruin anything."
The amply endowed auteur, who redefined the adult genre with memorable turns in films such as "Big Breasted Nurses" and "My Sex Teacher #12," said she was close to breaking the news to Woods, 34, but said she chickened out just before suffering the miscarriage.
"Actually, the day I was going to tell him, I had a miscarriage," she said.
"After I lost the baby I didn't want to talk about it."
But the miscarriage fueled her desire to be with Woods.
"I got more emotionally attached," she said.
Despite her more-than-passing role in Woods' marital debacle, James said she regretted the scandal's impact on Nordegren.
"I feel bad for (Elin)," she said. "She didn't deserve this, and she didn't deserve being humiliated."
James said she believed Woods' scorned wife never had a clue that her husband was playing around with a porn actress.
"Not to my knowledge," James said. "But she had two kids at home, and she was stressed out."
Woods and his wife were said to be living apart in the same Orlando-area neighborhood so he can visit with their children. Nordegren was not wearing her wedding ring during recent weeks.
Woods is on an indefinite leave from golf..
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And that is such a sad testimony as to what main stream media has become.
They keep digging, and digging, and re-reporting the same basic story over and over again.
The carcass is there $$. No money on the straight and narrow. Ironic thing is once he comes back the ratings will be thru the roof so even the PGA benefits from his prowess. Dirty laundry is the new cash cow.
Kickem when there up Kickem when there down. Damn the songs from the 60's 70's 80's if you listen closely to some of the most influential bands they were wayyy ahead of there time.
It's incredible how they flock to the feast. It's like hyena's circled around a carcass.
Our society it pretty low sometimes. What Tiger did is bad, to be sure, but the media isn't satisfied until every little scrap and drop of blood is gone. They keep stories alive LONG past when it should be let go of.
The stinking media want details...positions, durations and whispers...those vultures wont back off...believe that
The volume on WS dropped to a virual halt until he was done...
It is amazing the amount of coverage Tiger is getting today. ESPN has stopped all other programming and is devoting every minute to Tiger.
Now they have a body language expert on the air. Unreal!! She's saying she doesn't buy it and doesn't believe he was sincere and that the tell tale sign is LOOK AT HIS EYE BROWS, they didn't move!!
The media must really be starved for something more interesting than Tiger's confession.
I'm glad it's over, and the media should just back off the guy a little. At this point it really is a family matter, and it's between Tiger and Elin to decide if they stay together.
I can see it now...in the future people will be saying, "Do you remember where you were when the Tiger Woods apology was made"?
Exactly...all they would be looking for is some way to sensationalize the story.
There is enough of those kind of articles already out there.
Time to get back to playing golf and winning tournaments.
He keeps Elin - well IMHO will be the biggest trick hot he will ever pull off
MAYBE HE WANTS TO KEEP ELIN !
Elin near hacked him to death LOL
I agree with you on how he appeared and I also agree that Elin did actually cause him some pain...lol...
I just want him to play...golf...
I agree with one Golf channel guy. He could of done thattwo months ago
to ...PATROIT
yea i watched it....it was like he was in a drug induced trance...not the tiger we knew....
my guess is hes pretty much catching hell from all the husband beaters/women groups....
and hes taking it...why dont he just go play golf...he may lose everything but he can make enough cash to get a motor home load it up with a cute chef and a cute housekeeper and move on ala DALY...
I think hes LYING when he says ELIN didnt abuse him.
It does not matter...
Agreed...found it really weird that the Golf Writers pool boycotted because they couldn't ask questions...
How self-serving is that?
Every media person who says he has to answer questions from the media are AHs...WTH do they want to ask him...when, where?...
Would have been a media frenzy if he apologized to them publicly...
Glad to have this step behind us although I would guess his statement today will be picked apart for days and analyzed to death...
Let's move on and play some damn GOLF!
wait ill someone hollers"STICK IT IN THE HOE ...TIGERRRR"
i wonder if steve williams will try to beat them up....
i think hes going to get alot of flak
DC - he was promising them they were the only ones. he was cheating on his girlfriends
Why would he owe them an apology? They knew what they were getting into...
Tiger is the Man...I love the posture of his Apology..wish he could have thrown a couple of KMAs in there...
Why would he owe them an apology? They knew what they were getting into...
Likely would of went on all day if he had to do that.
i did not hear any apology to the women he screwed, no
i did not hear any apology to the women he screwed, no
Did I miss it because I do not think he apologized to the gals he had transgressions with
NOtah looked distraught.
Thinking to himsewlf
" No more stripper parties on the yacht"
the closed captioning text is out there somewhere
I thought exactly the same thing after the speech and the huigs was just like a funeral
nothing special in that for me. This is all about Tiger and damage control. pls post text of release if anyone gets it and I will sticky it
oh barf give him the pimp jacket at the end of the receiving line lol
he didn't say "keep your pimp hand strong" what were the odds?
A place to discuss Tiger Woods...
Go for it!
OH well It seems that this thread was created to discuss Tiger. Tiger and golf can be discussed on the Golf thread but this one really for Tiger the person. Of course this all started with the car accident at 2:30 am in late November as infidelity allegations were starting to emerge. Since then in the ensuing ten days or so we are now up to no less that 6 alleged Mistresses. All 6 are Hostesses or waitresses.
here they are in order
1.) Rachel Uchitel. The club hostess was the first of the women to be linked to Woods after the National Enquirer reported that she traveled to Australia to be with Woods during a golf tournament there. So far, she has denied the affair.
2.) Jamie Grubbs. The 24-year-old reality show contestant and cocktail waitress claims she carried on a 31-month-long affair with Woods until his crash last month. She offered a Woods voicemail to prove it.
3.) Kalika Moquin. The 27-year-old club manager from Las Vegas is reported to have had a brief sexual relationship with Woods. She would neither confirm nor deny the report.
4.) Cori Rist. The 31-year-old swimsuit model reportedly met Woods at a Manhattan club last year before they began a sexual relationship that led to Woods flying her out to various secret locations for hook-ups, and her introducing the golfer to her 7-year-old son.
5.) Jamie Jungers. The 26-year-old, who sold her story to a British newspaper, is a former employee of Trashy Girls Lingerie. She said she met Woods in Las Vegas.
6.) Mindy Lawton. The 33-year-old pancake house waitress from Orlando claims she was dumped by Woods in 2007. According to the Post, it was her affair with Woods that was caught on camera by the National Enquirer, when he was snapped dropping her off at her trailer park. The threatening news later led to a Woods Men’s Fitness cover in exchange for the magazine’s silence about the alleged affair, the New York Post reports.
7.) Holly Sampson. The 36-year-old from Los Angeles is a former porn star, who has starred in such films as “OMG, Stop Tickling Me” and “Flying Solo 2.” According to the Sun, she has neither confirmed nor denied her affair with Woods.
8.) Unidentified Alleged Mistress No. 8. A former cocktail waitress from Orlando, Fla. does want to reveal her identity yet, according to attorney Michael O’Quinn. At the time the affair allegedly began, she was 20 years old and met Woods at the Roxy in Orlando, where she was a VIP server.
9.) Unidentified Alleged Mistress No. 9 is reported to be a “sexy” British TV presenter who was single at the time, but is now married.
10.) Unidentified Alleged Mistress No. 10. is reported in a UK paper to be a “sex-addicted cougar.”
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