Seafarer Exploration Corp (SFRX)

[RC62]

Quote from hedge:

“Someone with far more salvage experience that those on Team SFRX commented on the dredge. He made his point and you made yours, which was by design.“

Can you please give us the names on Team SFRX? Alphabetical order would be great and would you also tell us which experts that they consulted with

[trueblue]

Thanks for the info, hadn’t even thought of that!!

[Raider21]

??? Interesting the part about gold dust! I never thought about the ships carrying gold ore flakes or dust for some reason I was always thinking the Spanish would melt it into bars, ingots, looking forward to what they find. Is it possible they are going to use it for other small treasures? Precious stones? Etc? No idea. Jmo
Bullish
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Just a reminder that the 'S.S.Central America' was an American steamship carrying California gold. Many of the miners returning home still had their gold in nuggets and dust.

With regard to Spanish galleons and treasure, In the book "The Lost Treasure of the Concepcion" by John Grissim (about Burt Webber's discovery of the galleon) on page 183 it says that while excavating with the venturi out of the sloping ceiling and walls of the' money hole' pieces of eight were sliding out when suddenly a stream of gold dust streamed out and into the suction mouth. So, saying some Spaniard on that ship was carrying dust.

[hedge_fun]

Than those on Team SFRX…..

[trueblue]

??? Interesting the part about gold dust! I never thought about the ships carrying gold ore flakes or dust for some reason I was always thinking the Spanish would melt it into bars, ingots, looking forward to what they find. Is it possible they are going to use it for other small treasures? Precious stones? Etc? No idea. Jmo

[Raider21]

In my opinion you’re spot on about the vacuum not ruining what they find!
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Sorry but not spot on. If you ever selected and operated a water venturi system, i+t can be from 3 inch to 8 inch, meaning the diameter of the suction hose mouth. So for very delicate work a three inch system might be preferred. You are probably also not aware that the diver can control the intake suction strength using the water flow control gate-valve. All I've just mentioned applies to the use of an airlift. Both systems being supplied from the surface support vessel. As I said previously, this little portable sucker presents but little advantage.

Now for the real 'kicker' that Reynolds may or may not know. There is nothing new about his sucker toy. If you're familiar with the great discovery of the 'S.S. Central America' that sank in 1857, you then know this was the greatest discovery and salvage of gold in history. In the publication "America's Lost Treasure" by Tommy Thompson, (a fantastic coffee table size book with all color photos) on page - 113 you will see a very clear impressive photo with caption which reads 'The submersible is equipped with a vacuuming device, nicknamed 'sea-vac' which is used to remove sediment and collect gold dust from Nemo's work area. The difference is that this was done in + or - 7,000 feet of water. Not a simple 80 feet of water. Now perhaps you might understand why I am not impressed with Reynold's toys.

[hedge_fun]

This I agree with. It sure seems……

that’s what they would do.

it seems that sfrx would put together a team of experts and engineers,

I know you were talking about building the dredge, but if that was an obstacle to success, they don’t have much of a team…..in my opinion.

Also, you were called out for potentially spamming the board. You made your point repeatedly. Posters are not to be the topic.

Spam
If you see a repeated post from the same User that is basically one liners or noise, this may be considered spam. Please report the post to Admin to decide.

The first post of the day here of late has generally been a slightly different version of what Mel Fisher used to say, but its one post and its not repeated time after time hour after hour each day.

As I said, you’re going to see opinions contrary to yours. Someone with far more salvage experience that those on Team SFRX commented on the dredge. He made his point and you made yours, which was by design. Time to move on and make the SFRX board the model board of Ihub!!!

GL

#trucebro

[trueblue]

In my opinion you’re spot on about the vacuum not ruining what they find! Sfrx is going to work the site as an archeological recovery. Looking forward to more news and details from Sfrx. Jmo

[RC62]

Interesting that I have been warned about violating the board’s terms of service by Hedge.

I have read and reviewed what I have posted and I can’t see how this is possible. I did not berate, attack the person in question (Raider21). I never said that he was not an expert. I said that I am a featherweight. I was directly posting about the dredge. Which qualifies under the terms of agreement.

So, I’m not sure why I can’t counter the conclusions that he brought up.

As a businessman who ran his own company for years, I think that I have some knowledge about how a business works. I would not build a dredge but….

So, from that perspective, it seems that sfrx would put together a team of experts and engineers, who are knowledgeable about what they needed the dredge to accomplish. It’s what any business would do. Don’t you agree?

Maybe it’s focused on keeping the archaeological evidence as intact as possible. I don’t know. Nobody knows.

I just think that both sides should have an equal opportunity to speculate and provide an alternative explanation for why the people who have already decided that they have all the answers with out having actually examined the technology they are so quick to dismiss it.

“But these discoveries paled when compared to his discovery of November 1890, when he illuminated a vacuum tube wirelessly—having transmitted energy through the air.
This was the beginning of Tesla's lifelong obsession—the wireless transmission of energy.”

I love to read and the above account is what has drawn me to watch the sfrx saga. Wireless transmission of energy! Amazing.

[hedge_fun]

Looking forward to salvage operations commencing. I know……

expectations for longs are high for Juno and beyond.

GL

#trucebro

[LittleBirdin my Ear]

I will
Bet !!!

[hedge_fun]

Trueblue and I called a truce. If you believe……

I have posted something that violates the TOS you can report the post to Admin.

I’m not saying I haven’t, I’m just sayin’

The topic here is SFRX, which includes management, affiliates, the business model, their technology, etc.

Posters are not the topic of discussion.

Again, if you believe that I or anyone else violated the terms feel free to report the post. There is a drop down under “more” above the post.

Keep me in line and I’ll return the favor. Let’s make the SFRX board the model board on Ihub.

Thanks and GL

#trucebro

Edit: This is for Little Birdie. If you believe an on topic post was removed in error or maliciously, you can appeal to Admin. Go to your removed posts and request a review.

[RC62]

“

Raider gave an opinion, which all Ihub members are allowed to give. Perhaps you don’t like it, but there is always tomorrow. I’m sure someone will have an opinion you won’t agree with then either.

That’s how Ihub was designed. You’ll notice you can even click a Bullish or Bearish button when making a post. “

I’m so confused. You repeatedly berate people on the board, over and over again, take their comments out of context and twist them beyond belief, and I am the one who is violating the terms of service? Amazing

[LittleBirdin my Ear]

What's crazy to me is the fact that both these 2 Paid Bashers have got to see the PPS move daily.
Thus, why not buy and sell it, even if you hate it.
Seriously, I've bought and sold stuff I basically knew nothing about
Not the case with these 2 and SFRX
Example:
Last Summer, SFRX could be bought for 0.0029
Sell that for 0.02 today
That's damn near 7x
Thus, 100K = $700K in like 9 months

[Raider21]

Quote: Are you the only salvage expert that can design a dredge? Can evaluate a dredge without actually having personally examined it? Is that what you’re saying? I did not realize that you were the only expert in the field available for consultation.
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You obviously just don't get it . Thats ok. Understood. Nothing more to comment. Signing off. Waiting for the results of the 'worm poop dig'. A Spanish treasure galleon carrying millions (excuse me; billions) but no cannons. Perhaps there are those who would say they were salvaged but left the billions in treasure.

Good luck.

[hedge_fun]

I think you’ve made your point. You might……

be impressed with the dredge, but others aren’t. You’re very spirited, and that’s good.

This is quickly becoming spam, which violates the terms you agreed to follow when you joined Ihub.

SFRX is the topic, not other Ihub members.

Raider gave an opinion, which all Ihub members are allowed to give. Perhaps you don’t like it, but there is always tomorrow. I’m sure someone will have an opinion you won’t agree with then either.

That’s how Ihub was designed. You’ll notice you can even click a Bullish or Bearish button when making a post.

In other words, you can be “fer” or “agin” when posting.

It’s all good.

#trucebro

[RC62]

“When you state 'I’m no salvage expert. Im the featherweigh', you were being honest. Whereas you aren't, I am.”

Are you the only salvage expert that can design a dredge? Can evaluate a dredge without actually having personally examined it? Is that what you’re saying? I did not realize that you were the only expert in the field available for consultation.

[RC62]

Ultimately, any reasonable person would grant that the seava3000 , aka the sand sucker by Sir Hedge, was built by sfrx for a specific range of purposes that were designed and developed for that goal.

Would it be too much to assume that they are more in tune with what their specifications for their dredge would have to be?

Would it be possible that they have first hand knowledge that the arm chair experts don’t have?

Or, should they have consulted with the armchair experts on this board for their opinion on how the dredge should have been built?

[Raider21]

Quote: I’m just trying to figure out how someone can watch a video, post that it would not work on carpet almost immediately, without having even worked with it, seen it up close,
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You cannot be serious. Why are you belaboring this 'it would not work on carpet' thing? When I stated what I did, it was a metaphor, never implying it would be used on carpet.

When you state 'I’m no salvage expert. Im the featherweigh', you were being honest. Whereas you aren't, I am. I could see the diameter of the suction hose and the units performance which was enough. I already explained the necessity of the surface salvage vessel and how it can facilitate the use of real-deal excavation methods via water or air. Enough time waisted trying to explain. It's a super toy that the divers should have allot of fun with.

[RC62]

I’m no salvage expert. Im the featherweight. I’m just trying to point out the obvious biases and negative conclusions that certain people make.

I’m just trying to figure out how someone can watch a video, post that it would not work on carpet almost immediately, without having even worked with it, seen it up close,

Again, what settings are available for suction? Are there other settings? Would it be possible that if the device was running on another level that the video would have been obscured? Nobody knows! I’m pretty sure that they didn’t test it on the carpet.

I don’t know. Never seen it and don’t claim to make assumptions based on bias with out having all the facts.

[Southern Gal]

In that video- it appeared to me that fanning the sand was more impactful than that seemingly weak Dustbuster.

I'm not a salvor. Can any who are, comment on these questions?

What's the benefit of that cumbersome and likely, expensive Hoover? Can't a ship mounted vacuum be adjusted to provide less suction? Don't ship mounted vacuums run indefinitely, or as long as the gasoline allows? Has SFRX, in its long and storied history, ever found financially meaningful salvage?

[hedge_fun]

Let’s simplify this. If the tech works……

as advertised, where’s the silver and gold?

Folks can say the border is secure, but is it?

Folks can say Gilligan got off the island, but did he?

For almost 5 years various folks from SFRX have said the tech works. Reynolds has carefully stated they are developing it. The SFRX website says, and if my memory serves me right at least a year old;

CURRENT STATUS

The SeaSearcher 2’s metal discriminator integration testing is complete and our teams continue to expand our knowledge about the Melbourne Beach site while also preparing to return to Juno Beach.


https://seafarerexplorationcorp.com/seasearcher/

I realize they had to wait on the permit, but they said in 2022 they had several sites to scan.

Well, where’s the silver and gold?

It’s hot air until it isn’t.

[Raider21]

Quote: If you don’t have any factual information about the dredge, then how did you come to your conclusions?
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I do believe that I said I had no further desire to comment until the worm poop dig occurred. Since you are now asking a specific question, I will answer it.

I watched the video. The suction intake diameter is small and its suction appeared weak. That's why I made the comment would hardly suck the dust out of the living room carpet, or something to that effect. This is not a tool for excavating overburden off a shipwreck. It's small and clearly appears too weak. It may have practical application sucking out sand pockets within a wreck site but that's about it. Try to understand that a fairly large salvage vessel has to be anchored (three or four point moored) over the site to support the dive teams. At this supposed depth of 80 feet, there will be repetitive dives required and a decompression chamber should be on board. So with the necessity of having a vessel on site in a fixed position, there's no problem running either water supply to the bottom to run a real do-business five or six inch venturi dredge or high volume air to run a six or eight inch airlift. So why the big deal over this little portable suction toy? So it appears someone likes to invent expensive toys but has no experience in the shipwreck salvage business. Of course, here again, it's just my opinion.

[LittleBirdin my Ear]

Hopefully you have alot of friends you can bring to this SFRX Stock and board .....
I believe it's about to get crazy really soon !!!

[hedge_fun]

Welcome back. I prefer hard data, but……

as you say it doesn’t matter to some, even if it’s just hot air profits.

Folks said the similar things about the Torres Rally. They didn’t care if he wasn’t a war hero or MIT professor. They didn’t care if the mask find was a fraud. Money was money as far as they were concerned. They didn’t care how they made money. They were good with it and said so.

The Worm Poop Pop has gotten it to two cents plus. How much higher can it go?

We’ll see.

But how high could it go if the tech was proven to work and not just said to work, as has been the case for almost 5 years now?

GL

[RC62]

Revisiting a topic that I have brought up twice but has been not addressed by Sir Hedge, I have decided that perhaps the best solution is to make the it a single point and make the questions simple.

Here is the quote that I am referring to and am attempting to understand the foundation behind this declaration.

72722
“The platform is an unpatentable shallow water ROV built around readily available third party sensors. “Even the “alleged” machine learning algorithms touted by SFRX are not a new idea and are being used by many other providers of subsea survey sensors.”

I would love to know the answers to the following questions. Please share them with us as we are looking forward to reading your answers soon.

1. is this your quote from a post 72722, on the investors hub board, specifically sfrx?
2. Have you ever seen this “shallow water ROV before?
3. How close physically have you come to the “shallow water ROV”?
4. To be clear, is this “shallow water ROV” is in fact the same as the one pictured on the sfrx website, facebook page ?
5. Now, you have made several claims about the “shallow water ROV “ in this post. Would you agree with this statement?
6. Have you ever seen the inside workings of the “shallow water ROV”?
7. If so, please share the date(s), time(s) of this examination.
8. How did you get your knowledge about the algorithms that you make mention of in your post?
9. What exactly are these “readily available third party sensors “?
10. Since they are so readily available, and you know what sensors they use, I would think that you would be happy to out the system in the “shallow water ROV”

[RC62]

Sir Hedge used or tried to use a study that proved his point. I read the study. You conveniently left out that It’s twenty years old, it was done by a single person who had to operate the entire system and the boat both, they didn’t examine any targets, they left out any targets that were below six nanotesla.

@. copied and pasted from study @

“”At a sensor to target distance of 2 to 3 meters there will need to be at least 1-2 kilograms of iron. This can produce a 1-2 nT anomaly that is detectable in a magnetically clean environment.””

“”Upon final completion of data acquisition, anomalies equaling six nanotesla (nT) or more were flagged, plotted and individually cataloged. The number of anomalies cataloged as a result of this process totaled 1,370.””

((So, from what I’ve read, this study was done, twenty years ago, its better to have at least two people doing the survey, the technology is old, they tossed out targets below six nanotesla that the old technology found, …. Yet, sir hedge used the study to prove his claim. Amazing. When challenged, he ignores his facts and twists his logic to make a predictable conclusion.

Can you tell us what the weight of the targets that were, say , five nanotesla?

[RC62]

Hedge makes up the argument:

“If someone needs credentials to comment, doesn’t…. “

((More drama queen babble))

So, please show us the post that i made that statement. I noted that Raider21 brought up his credentials that he had expertise with dredges then stated that sfrx dredge can’t work on carpet.

I never mentioned, stated, implied that credentials were required for anyone.

[Southern Gal]

Whether it be hot air or hard data, getting to .02 is the same for those who wish to capitalize

[hedge_fun]

Can you point to a successful project? Lantana……

was a dud.

HTQ started at Melbourne in 2000 and SFRX became a partner on the project in 2014. SFRX supposedly stopped working there in late 2022, but Bureau reports show they were still there last summer. Their website says it’s still an active site. We’re talking a quarter of a century. For what? And how many million of dollars and billions of shares did they burn there?

Now they’re at Juno again. I will be positive and say its good they don’t have to deal with the state this time, but the suggestion the “missing link” to the project was a tech that can detect silver and gold under the seabed is rather absurd.

Juno was explored for years and years and the 6 or 7 silver coins found was likely money crew members were carrying with them. A wreck site, especially one with $15B in cargo, would be littered with treasure and cannons. But the latest suggestion is the treasure is under the worm poop because the “missing link” told them that.

In my opinion, someone has quite the imagination, but I would love to see the tech’s data to support that claim. We know there is no historical data about a treasure galleon wrecking at Juno, but the AWOL affiliate said it was probably in a closet in Seville and nobody has found it yet.

GL TB. Stay positive. I’ll be the first to congratulate you when us critics are proven wrong. But it is going to take silver and gold, not a hot air balloon ride.

#trucebro

[zooey]

Everyone on this board, including me, is here for a reason. Thirstfun has been doing the same on another board I follow for years. Funny part is that he bought shares there with family while degrading the stock on a daily basis.. nobody is here for fun or enthusiasm..

[trueblue]

Just curious, I’m haven’t figured out the why so many years, being so negative towards Sfrx? To each their own I guess. Jmo

[hedge_fun]

So, if you ask for credentials, that fair……

game, but if I ask for credentials I am reaching a conclusion?

What did I tell you about those if then logic statements?

Yo, bro!

[RC62]

According to Sir Hedge:

“So if it’s not your opinion, is it……

((Never offered my opinion, I was trying to understand how someone could watch a video, bring up their expertise, and then conclude that the sfrx dredge would not work on carpet)))

“FACT?”

(( never said that or anything like that, that is your opinion, comment, conclusion not mine.))

“Was the world supposed to be overwhelmed and in awe when they saw the video?”

((Drama queen babble …. Never implied that the world was to be overwhelmed. Your comment, conclusion, inference … building up the straw man … but you’re the only person who could dream up a conclusion like that …. Thanks for sharing. But, nobody but you brought it up! ))))


“They said the dredge is still being tested, which means…..it ain’t ready for prime time.”

((((Amazing, if it is being tested, then it is not ready for prime time. What did I tell you about those if then logic statements? What stage of development are they currently in? You don’t know. Are they tweaking the batteries? Are they trying to balance the suction power with the goal of limiting the disruption of the site? How about the hose diameter? In my opinion you don’t know and don’t want to know. ))))

“For almost 5 years SFRX has said the tech works. What credentials do they have to make such a claim?”

(((( thought you said that credentials weren’t required. ;@). What credentials do you have that they don’t work? How do you know that they don’t work? Are they supposed to bow down to Sir Hedge, invite him to actually look over the company business? Isn’t that insider trading? ))))

“In other words, where is the treasure?”

((( indeed! Where’s the treasure? That’s what everyone wants to know!!)))

“Have a great weekend!!!”

(((Thanks, you too!)))

[LittleBirdin my Ear]

Exciting video on the new mobile dredge in development, IMO.

[hedge_fun]

So if it’s not your opinion, is it……

FACT?

Was the world supposed to be overwhelmed and in awe when they saw the video?

They said the dredge is still being tested, which means…..it ain’t ready for prime time.

For almost 5 years SFRX has said the tech works. What credentials do they have to make such a claim?

In other words, where is the treasure?

Have a great weekend!!!

[RC62]

It’s not my opinion. Raider21 has brought up the issue. I’m just trying to figure out how much actual access he had to the dredge.

He said that he had experience with dredges and then unequivocally said that the sfrx dredge basically that it would not work on carpet.

I think that since he brought in his expertise he should let us know how he came to this conclusion.

[hedge_fun]

In your opinion, that’s the question……but

it’s still being tested.

In my opinion, the “testing” may just be a stall. Not sayin it is, sayin it may be a stall.

They have known for 15 years what conditions were like at Juno. If they needed something like this why haven’t they addressed it before now?

Someone with strong credentials would be ahead of the game.

Also, are operations going to be delayed until the SandSucker is completed?

Those are the questions.

[RC62]

I never said that you needed credentials. Have you or he ever actually examined it? That’s the question.

[hedge_fun]

If someone needs credentials to comment, doesn’t….

that mean someone needs credentials to watch and understand the content of the video?

Raider spoke specifically about the Venturi System because he is familiar with that. He obviously understands its capacity. He gave an opinion on what he saw. He never said it was fact.

That’s what this forum is for, to give opinions.

I’m of the opinion SFRX thought some would be really, really impressed by the video. I’m also of the opinion they succeeded with that endeavor.

Happy Friday!!!

#successbro

[RC62]

What direct contact did raider21 have with the dredge? Has he ever actually examined it? Simple question! Is that simple enough?

[trueblue]

He can make some factual statements that make sense. He knows many types of equipment that were used in the past and present! Jmo

[RC62]

Raider21 went to great lengths to make sure that his credentials were properly listed so as to ensure that his conclusion was properly appreciated.

Thanks. But I’m curious, how many hours do you have using the machine? What settings are there? How does the suction handle the variable conditions? Which diver were you?

If you don’t have any factual information about the dredge, then how did you come to your conclusions?

Adding more for hedge:

Sorry, I forgot that you love to ignore the core issues.

If Raider21 has not actually examined the dredge in question, then how can he make any factual statements about it.

[trueblue]

2 1/2 cents sounds good to me!! I think the decimal point will move easier soon!! Jmo

[LittleBirdin my Ear]

Crossed 2 cents Wednesday this week and has held strong throughout the week.
2.5 cents may come by the EOM is my thought .....

[hedge_fun]

Why would credentials be needed? Are you…..

aware that dredging is something that occurs worldwide everyday and whatever they need for Juno was readily available? That was his point.

You need credentials for that? If so, please explain why.

Now if what they really need is something that will fit on the speedboat, I can understand the need to build the portable dredge. I have to admit, it was a cute little dredge.

The question remains, does that mean operations are on hold UNTIL the portable dredge is operational?

BTW, how’s the device they stick in the water that can detect a treasure wreck within 50 miles coming along?

[RC62]

Raider21 went to great lengths to make sure that his credentials were properly listed so as to ensure that his conclusion was properly appreciated.

Thanks. But I’m curious, how many hours do you have using the machine? What settings are there? How does the suction handle the variable conditions? Which diver were you?

If you don’t have any factual information about the dredge, then how did you come to your conclusions?

[hedge_fun]

You gotta do what you gotta do.......

#trucebro

[hedge_fun]

Maybe they're developing a SandSucker that ONLY......

sucks sand off of treasure and doesn't displace sand on wood or ferrous metals.

After all, there are plenty of dredges on the market for a variety of situations, but Juno is special.

It's a job for Reynolds.

[Wahoo98]

I asked a question and you misrepresented it as an absolute statement, otherwise known as a lie. All cleaned up.