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please take this with the humor intended.....
Keith you have known me long enough to know that I have a very good sense of humor so your post is taken as one that is fully sane in nature as well as containing a valid question/idea.
I can’t speak for Matt or IHUB but I can tell you what I think if you want to hear it. Based on my tenure on IHUB I have found it a true effort to fully understand just what Matt’s intention was with CoB. Once I did I understood the (strong) bottom line is that he wants a near pure investment site. A place where 99.9% of the posts are about investments unlike what ALL of the other forums have turned into. A forum without backbiting and child’s play by adults with too much time on their hands. A site that is 100% designed by the users but staying within Matt’s vision.
·He has limited the number of topics here for that reason. I suggested that he place some additional categories here to add more flexibility. His answer to me was “if it doesn’t fit in one of the 6 main categories he does not want the thread here. (OTC BB Stocks, Listed & Nasdaq, Canadian Stocks, Stock Clubs, The Lounge, iHub Talk)
·My point being that I personally doubt that he or Bob who is the site manager will entertain a deleted post thread. I think it would serve as a tool for the disruptive poster to cause more disturbances. If you really want to know just ask Matt. He is a straight up guy.
just deleting things gets people that get deleted pissed off. they feel like they are being judged by a one or two man jury
Post deleting is not done to piss people off, it is done to keep a thread on topic, stop spammers and personal attacks. As far as a poster getting deleted by a one or two man jury you have overlooked the fact that a deleted post goes straight to IH Adman Bob. He makes the call from there. If the post should not have been deleted then Bob restores it.
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=74686
you dont have to spend time deleting posts, nor defending the deletion.
I recall repeatedly reading one of your major complaints about having deleted posts was that I didn’t respond to your inquiries about why the deletions were made. This should give you an idea of how much time I spend defending deletions. <g>
A couple of sincere things that I would like to share with you are; If you want to post please do so but be nice and play by the rules. I’m used to people tweaking me on other threads and even other forums, as you already know. I take all of that with a grain of salt and truly am not bothered by it. Life is too short to dwell on negatives.
You will like this I think, I asked dealer to take me off of her thread as a director last night and she did. I Pm’ed Bob and Matt that I had done this and for a reason which is to see if people can come here and treat one another with dignity and respect as if they were standing face to face with one another other.
The Best
Reid
Vendit, please take this with the humor intended.....
After signing on, I notice a bunch of deleted posts....but naturally, no way to read them...heck some might be funny. Anyway, is there anyway for IHUB to set up a thread specifically for banned posts. That way, people can see the posts for themselves, yet chairmen can still delete them from their threads. maybe this will appease those being banned and be a little more fair so all posts being deleted can be seen by one and all....kind of like a site like the parking lot so that you keep the rubbish and fighting off the threads......This will allow the banned and the bannee <ggg>, to have a site off of the topic thread, to place the deleted posts and let folks discuss if and why and etc......just deleting things gets people that get deleted pissed off. they feel like they are being judged by a one or two man jury......why not appease these people which will make yalls job easier as well...you dont have to spend time deleting posts, nor defending the deletion. the deleted post would not be deleted, but instead removed from the thread by the chairmen, and placed on another thread specifically for banned posts and discussion about them.....this seems to solve all the problems...makes life easier for you, makes it so the banned people can't bitch and etc, etc........
make any sense, and is it possible?...what would ihub matt think about this....Personally I think it solves alot of problems and will appease many people that are mad about being banned and mad because posts get deleted so quickly, others can't read and judge for themselves.....this seems ver fair to ma for everybody....the banned....the bannee and ihub.
Whaddya think
keith
Dealer unless the data base changes on IHUB, you have red headers if you would like.
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/board.asp?board_id=356
PM me for the recipe.
:8-)
Reid
<font color=red>Voltaire's Porch Basket of Stocks </font>
Voltaire's Porch Basket of Stocks
These Stock Have Not Been Picked By Any One Individual
GORILLA--A company that controls it market because it has a discontinuous innovation ,one that is not compatible with existing systems. The market is in a hyper growth stage, and they control the architecture. There is a high switching cost to using some other company's product.
KING--The Market leader, properly with a two-times lead or better over its closest competitor. If the lead shrinks too far, the king becomes a prince, and we have a kingless market. Because they lack architectural control, and because switching costs are low, they cannot force competitors onto the defensive the way Microsoft, Intel, or Cisco can. Compaq is a king. Seagate is a king of hard drives.
A lot of study has been done on these stocks by the Gorilla and Kings thread. There are the stocks that are discussed most often on the porch........and 1 or more are in most porcher's portfolio.
The following Stocks are on the Gorilla and King Index
SYMBOL---EARNINGS DATE
CSCO---5/8
CLOSE 15.60
AFTERHOURS 15.78
GMST---3/7
CLOSE 39.91
AFTERHOURS 40.00
INTC---4/17
CLOSE 30.18
AFTERHOURS 30.30
JDSU---4/26
CLOSE 19.26
AFTERHOURS 19.59
NTAP---5/10
CLOSE 21.86
AFTERHOURS 22.24
QCOM---4/17
CLOSE 56.30
AFTERHOURS 56.50
SEBL---4/18
CLOSE 45.70
AFTERHOURS 45.98
The following Stocks are on the Gorilla and King Wait and
Watchlist
The Watch & Wait Index consists of stocks that have some desirable characteristics but are not necessarily Gorillas or Kings - at least not yet. Most of them will not be, but they bear watching for that possibility. They are as follows:
BRCM---4/17
CLOSE 37.40
AFTERHOURS 37.74
CREE---4/12
CLOSE 19.79
AFTERHOURS 19.86
ELON---4/18
CLOSE 17.41
AFTERHOURS 17.72
ITWO---4/18
CLOSE 16.22
AFTERHOURS 16.45
PMCS---4/19
CLOSE 37.95
AFTERHOURS 38.49
RMBS---4/12
CLOSE 17.07
AFTERHOURS 16.95
RNWK---4/17
CLOSE 8.94
AFTERHOUR 8.89
SNDK---4/25
CLOSE 26.00
AFTERHOURS 26.49
WIND---5/31
CLOSE 27.84
AFTERHOURS 27.84
"Voltaire's Cover Call Strategy 101" see Post # 9490
Post #'s of Recent Cover Call Strategy Discussions
From recent discussions--August 16,17 and 18, 2000 see post #31425 updated 8/31/00
27272 Original Posts "Voltaire Cover Call Strategy 101"</font>
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A F T E R H O U R S .. Q U O T E S & EARNINGS REPORT DATES
Voltaire's Porch Basket of Stocks
These Stock Have Not Been Picked By Any One Individual
GORILLA--A company that controls it market because it has a discontinuous innovation ,one that is not compatible with existing systems. The market is in a hyper growth stage, and they control the architecture. There is a high switching cost to using some other company's product.
KING--The Market leader, properly with a two-times lead or better over its closest competitor. If the lead shrinks too far, the king becomes a prince, and we have a kingless market. Because they lack architectural control, and because switching costs are low, they cannot force competitors onto the defensive the way Microsoft, Intel, or Cisco can. Compaq is a king. Seagate is a king of hard drives.
A lot of study has been done on these stocks by the Gorilla and Kings thread. There are the stocks that are discussed most often on the porch........and 1 or more are in most porcher's portfolio.
The following Stocks are on the Gorilla and King Index
SYMBOL---EARNINGS DATE
CSCO---5/8
CLOSE 15.60
AFTERHOURS 15.78
GMST---3/7
CLOSE 39.91
AFTERHOURS 40.00
INTC---4/17
CLOSE 30.18
AFTERHOURS 30.30
JDSU---4/26
CLOSE 19.26
AFTERHOURS 19.59
NTAP---5/10
CLOSE 21.86
AFTERHOURS 22.24
QCOM---4/17
CLOSE 56.30
AFTERHOURS 56.50
SEBL---4/18
CLOSE 45.70
AFTERHOURS 45.98
The following Stocks are on the Gorilla and King Wait and
Watchlist
The Watch & Wait Index consists of stocks that have some desirable characteristics but are not necessarily Gorillas or Kings - at least not yet. Most of them will not be, but they bear watching for that possibility. They are as follows:
BRCM---4/17
CLOSE 37.40
AFTERHOURS 37.74
CREE---4/12
CLOSE 19.79
AFTERHOURS 19.86
ELON---4/18
CLOSE 17.41
AFTERHOURS 17.72
ITWO---4/18
CLOSE 16.22
AFTERHOURS 16.45
PMCS---4/19
CLOSE 37.95
AFTERHOURS 38.49
RMBS---4/12
CLOSE 17.07
AFTERHOURS 16.95
RNWK---4/17
CLOSE 8.94
AFTERHOUR 8.89
SNDK---4/25
CLOSE 26.00
AFTERHOURS 26.49
WIND---5/31
CLOSE 27.84
AFTERHOURS 27.84
"Voltaire's Cover Call Strategy 101" see Post # 9490
Post #'s of Recent Cover Call Strategy Discussions
From recent discussions--August 16,17 and 18, 2000 see post #31425 updated 8/31/00
27272 Original Posts "Voltaire Cover Call Strategy 101"
You just answered your own question.
Incidentaly, this particular post should not be deleted.....I am not attacking you, simply asking you a question as to why your posts were not deleted from this thread
Reid
<<Keith
Your post plus another one or two are not deleted, they are where they belong which is where you placed them.
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/board.asp?board_id=37
I dont like spam on this thread.
Reid >>
I dont understand Reid......you still havent answered me.......you say above, you do not like spam on this thread. Well, I sent you a list of posts made by you, all of which should be deleted, according to your rules and ihubs rules.......yet, you still havent answered as to why they werent deleted. You called somebody a name....you Claim to "have flushed another Poster"...I could go on, but no need to waste time or space. I do find it kind of hypocritical that you say you dont want spam on this thread, yet you can't defend why the 9 or so posts ( I on ly went back a day or so also ) that you have on here that should be deleted, are not deleted. I will post this on the other thread to make you happy, but it sure would be nice to get a staright answer from you. Incidentaly, this particular post should not be deleted.....I am not attacking you, simply asking you a question as to why your posts were not deleted from this thread....the same posts that if others had written, would surely be deleted. No attacking...I just want an answer, which you refuse to give.
Keith
Keith
Your post plus another one or two are not deleted, they are where they belong which is where you placed them.
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/board.asp?board_id=37
I dont like spam on this thread.
Reid
KG4...
I don't know Vendit or Dealer. Never met 'em...but you have a 'history' with them apparently.
IHub is designed to let chairmen and their 'police' do as they wish. Matt is adamant about that, but he's also fair and does review every deletion. If he thinks it's warranted, it stays deleted. In this regard, IHub is WAY ahead of RB (Raging Bull) and apparently, SI. That's a good thing.
How could this have been avoided? Don't post to Vendit or his/her thread. Don't add fuel to the fire, and don't give the 'enemy' any help.
I, too, have had many try to battle me @ RB. I just ignore them and go right on being me. Drives 'em crazy. *g*
I see you posted to me...post 295 I believe.....but it was deleted. Sorry, I never got a chance to see it...just the tag line....please repost and send to me via pm.....thanks
keith
Excuse me for butting in...but...you guys are too funny. I've read this thread, and it's like a bad 'Seinfeld' episode. No point to anything, just a bunch of bitchin' and moanin'.
Now, I've given you a new target. This oughta be good...
My name is........
Vivian
You run that board as well, Reid? LMAO.
bonnuss
KG4: Well, in hindsight with CSCO warnings tonight,
... we all have the 'luxury' of seeing it as a bear trap -- now.
I bot some puts ... in fact, that's about all I've been doing for about three months.
Rest cash.
Be careful out there.
Best,
bonnuss
Thank you for making my point.
:8-)
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=78454
Reid
This is allowed.
The only good news we got today:
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=15670498
Reid
Its time to flush the RedmondVA toilet once again.......<g>
Are you ready??
Reid
I dont owe you anything dude but I will take your suggestion and ask IH Admin if Black has duel IDs.
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/profile.asp?User=5244
Reid
No offense intended.....what I find silly....and very sad is that somebody made a comment agreeing that we should all say a prayer for Dealer and toms mother....actually, I said it and this person just agreed with me. Your reply....instead of thanking this person for his well wishes, you essentially sent a threat. A link to IHUBS TOS and you boldly outlined that a person can be banned from ihub.
I would really love to hear an explanation....if you think this person has multiple identities, then I suggest you find out for sure, then act on the FACTS....but I think your reply, in essence was a threat, and all this person was doing was wishing the best for dealers and toms mother....can you please explain why you responded the way you did?
Thanks you Keith
Silly!
Reid
Reid,
Just for curiosity, why did you respond to the previous poster with a link, BOLDLY outlining IHUBS termination of a person for failure to meet rules of IHUB.
My god man, you need to wake up.......Tom and Dealers mother is very ill.....ON SI, I made a post that everybody needs to put their differances asided and say a prayer for their mother.....This person simply said they agree with me.......why would you respond to him/her with that. Are you telling me now that if somebody is ill, we cannot make a two sentance post saying a prayer for that sick person, or wishing our best for that sick person??? If you have another reason for replying the way you did, I would be interested to hear it.....maybe this person has multiple IHUB identities, who knows...if so, and you know this as fact, then you should ban them from Ihub for violating the TOS, but c'mon, if you knew that as fact, I would imaging that person would be gone already, so that can't be the reason for your response......so I must assume you think making a post wishing Dealers and tom's mother the best....is a bad post????
Keith...very curious as to why you responded the way you did to a poster that was wishing a sick person their best.......It may not have been about stocks, but do you think it is really a bad thing to wish a sick person a prayer for the best???? The thread header says anything can be discussed here on the porch as long as there is no attacking.....all I saw was somebody saying they agree with me in that we all need to say a prayer for Dealers and toms mom....yet you replied with a link to IHUB TOS and boldy outlined how one can be banned from IHUB........as I said, I am very curious why you would respond this way when no IHUB violation has occured, not Thread violation has occured....only a prayer for a sick person was given, yet you for some reason have a problem with this???
Keith...not undersatnding at all
I am playing by the rules.
Stop posting to me. I am not interested in your opinions/comments/whatever else. Leave me alone or I'll report you.
Be nice and play by the rules and everything will be just fine.
Reid
Reid, I have one account and one account only. Now stop harassing me or I'll report you to Bob. (ggg)
I agree with Keith on this one. It deserves a moment of our time and a special prayer. Hang in there D & V.
I see another fine thread has just sprung to life on IHUB.
Questions and Answers with IH Admin (Bob)
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/board.asp?board_id=504
<gggg>
Reid
NTAP just warned.....watcha think Frank...is $12 realistic for me to shoot for?
Yep, I assume The Other Porch must be it.....and honestly Frank, this isn;t really about me expressing my feelings....it's about anybody being able to without fear of being predjudiced against, which whether you admitt or not, happens all the time on all the investement forums. This is not a siste for people to attack and bring their personal agenda's, but at the same time, people need a place where they can speak freely without fear of being persecuted for their opinions by others with personal or biased views against that person. Simply put, folks should be allowed to excercise their right to free speech without worry about repurcussions as long as no laws are broken or TOS of the site are broken.....it's the american way.......
Keith.......wondering if this is another bear trap, and actually hoping it is because I still want some ntap under $12 and wouldn't mind more jdsu or sunw for $10 or less......does this rally have sustainable legs, or do we retest soon, or bounce hard backwards off of 2000...inquiring minds...and isiots like me, want to know <ggg>
>> Title to new thread has been changed to Other Porchers
Couldn't find it, though I see one titled, The Other Porch. Is that your new site?
I'm glad you've founded a forum where you can express yourself in your own style about topics close to your heart. I always felt that was the best solution for folks who were at odds with an existing thread, but some seem to prefer trying to tear down rather than build.
uf
Title to new thread has been changed to
Other Porchers
Feel free to visit and speak your mind freely.....just dont break the IHUB TOS, and all will be fine.
Keith
Is this a bear trap....or is this rally for real......opinions of those not banned from this site would be appreciated. For those that are banned from this site or SI's Porch, I have started up a site titled Banned Porchers, here on IHUB, and will do the same on SI later. The purpose of these new threads is not for spiteful purposes or for attacking others....it is simply a place where one can go and express their opinions, without fear of being deleted or banned based on a biased or predjudiced view. Basically, the thread is made so that we as Americans are protected with our god given rights of Free Speech without fear of Predjudice. Anybody and everybody is welcome, as are all opinions and viewpoints.
OK Guys, come on now...
I feel like a Kindergarten Cop <g>
I am not exactly sure why everybody here is so frustrated. When you registered with IH you agreed to the rules.
Yes, things get deleted fast around here. But only when they are laced with comments on personalities and/or personal attacks.
I don't care if you wrote a Thesis on the economic slowdown. If you write one sentence attacking someone, then I am going to allow it go get deleted. We are simply NOT tolerating personal attacks, offtopic garbage, spam. It does nothing but mess the threads up. I want to read about investmens and investments only.
If you don't like the Rules, you don't have to post. But there is a reason the other sites are in the condition they are -- they no longer talk stocks.
matt
so It looks to me like the first person that throws a punch gets deleted, but the person doing the deleting, gets to delete, yet keep their off topic stuff on the thread.
I would say that you pretty well hit the nail on the head and defined Matt's Chairman Of The Board concept with your above statement.
Reid
I have one name and one name only....KG4
Nor do I agree with what is transpiring on this thread......Dealie/vendit...I will be the first to agree that probably 80% of the posts on this thread should have been deleted, but it is also obvious that some posts are being deleted, not because of content, but because of the person posting....my post yesterday was deleted and it thought it brought up excellent points that the bashers need to go on because they have turned this board into a waste of time...seemed pretty useful, needed and on topic to me...yet it was instantly deleted...that is when I researched and noticed everything else was deleted....a poster made a three line comment to me about cmgi and the good ole days, and whether we will ever see $300 again....I dont know this poster, but that is irreleveant...the post was short sweet and only mentioned cmgi....yet that post was deleted....there are many instances where posts that should not be deleted are...maybe this is because 80% should be deleted and yall are going overboard and deleting everything, but more care needs to be put into what is deleted, or it clearly looks loike a personal matter, and not a content matter.
Anyway, I showed up here yesterday because I was apalled at the non stop bashing, and all the time you and dealie were wasting having to police the thread...I tried to make things better....my post made more sense then anything I read on this board for two weeks....I mean something had to give, it was just getting ridiculous over here.......my post was a good thing for this thread, and it's intent was good...yet it was deleted as quick as you can say the word delete........how come I see plenty of off topic posts from dealie and you, that are still there...not deleted....that doesnt make much sense to me......it takes two to tango...one person bashes voltaire.....it is, and should be deleted, but then you or dealie respond to that person with more off topic stuff, yet that stuff isn't deleted....so It looks to me like the first person that throws a punch gets deleted, but the person doing the deleting, gets to delete, yet keep their off topic stuff on the thread.
I sincerely hope this post is not deleted, as these things are very pertinent to the survival of this thread.
Sincerly,
Keith
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Reid
Bonnie, I think we should be allowed to talk about any stock and any investment strategy. We should also be allowed to freely applaud, or criticize, any analysts, experts, or others who turn out to be totally right or totally wrong.
Hey, Matt ... is it 'okay' to discuss puts on such stocks as ...
CIEN, JNPR, CSCO, BEAS, NEWP, RMBS, etc?
Or is shorting on your I-HUB board 'restricted' to threads that are 'committed' to such?
TIA,
bia
well, your reply to me was deleted....all I saw was
you sure seem to wo
but when I clicked on it, I see it was deleted.....send me your thoughts via pm...I'd love to hear them
With all due respect, I posted something along the same lines as you just did...and that post was deleted. I told the Voltaire bashers to go someplace else and told dealie and vendit to stop wasting so much time....yet it was deleted. Did you review those posts? Why on earth were they deleted???
I also would like to know why after seeeing that I was deleted I did some research and I show severalposts that I made and were made back to me that were 100% stock related, yet they were deleted....What you fail to realize is that this is not a content related thing....it's personal. I only just realized this today. Until today, I have been a true friend and compatriot to Voltaire and dealie.....but afters seeing my post deleted I researched back and see that posts from me and to me were deleted that only talked about stocks or the market. In fact, one poster sent me a PM that said " keith, I will prove to you this is personal and I will make a post 100% stock related, and I guarantee that post will be removed"...I saw the post when it was posted and it said something like, I see the charts showing more downward momentum....what do you see happening.....that was it...that was the whole post.......it was deleted.....another person posted to me about cmgi and said "ahhh, the good old days, do you ever think we'' see those days again:...I responded that no i didnt think cmgi would ever see $300 again....both the other person and my post was deleted........certainly there is more to this then content...it is apparent there are personal issues dictating the authority on this thread..........why else are people being targeted rather then content??? I am so perturbed at this, I am going to explore going over your head if you dont help resolve this matter....IHUB is not going to survive if folks can do what they are doing and get away with it....heck I agree with you that 95% of the posts on here should be, and were deleted...that was my whole point in posting earlier...to tell the bashers to go someplace else and get this thread back to normal....yet that post was deleted??????Along with many posts I now see that were on topic......it's not the content being deleted, it's the people, Mr. Administrator, can you not see that. I am going to PM this to you as well, because it may not last 5 minutes on the thread. I think what is going on here is a travesty...I showed up here to help get things back in order, and I get "DELETED"...if you can't see this is personal, then you are blind. You are letting tha fact that yes, probably 80% of the posts deleted should have been deleted, but there are plenty that shouldnt have been and were only deleted for personal reasons. Thats sir is clear as a bell and cab be proven just by looking at those couplsposts I was referring to that were 100% market related, yet are now gone!!
OK, 16 messages deleted today...
And hardly any of them had anything to do with stocks..
This thread appears to be in a "we almost want to move over" mode..So the meat of the thread, the "friends" of Voltaire are not here yet.
So I don't expect too much stock discussion. Im going to leave all the messages that were deleted today, removed...
Let's move forward from right now with a clean slate and just discuss stocks. I have no patience for talking about online personalities. Simply not what this place is for. If you hvae an issue about your posts being deleted, just email support@investorshub.com ... Don't bother responding on the thread, it just adds to the fire, and ultimately, it's pointless, because I am the one who writes it off as a deletion or restores the post..
Friendly banter or stock discussions, please...
Have a good weekend!
matt
I think it would help you to no longer have to wonder if you would try to figure that out yourself.
dealie
I will treat you as a joke if you insist.
Reid
Tell me a little about yourself if you don't mind. Do you trade or are you like I was in 1995 and wondering what the term trader meant?
In other words "what is your investment style preference".
Reid
Thanks Reid,
BTW, Although the charts are not always correct they beat the heck out of blindly guessing, Oh how I could not more agree with you!
Not exactly.....This is a place for friends of Voltaire as stated in the header.
I do not desire now or in the future to get on subjects that are not adding something postive to this thread, such as this subject.
dealie
Please read the header and you will understand that this is a gathering place for friends of Voltaire's
Do you understand what a friend is? To me it is a person that makes you feel good
Dealie, are you saying that one can only post here if it`s to make Tom feel good?
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