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RV! I am glad Vendit is helping me with this board......and appreciate his answering your question. Vendit and I both stay quite busy with our investments and trying to help others that there is little time for such as this.
Do you understand what a friend is? To me it is a person that makes you feel good.
Question: Are you a friend of Voltaire's???
Please read the header and you will understand that this is a gathering place for friends of Voltaire's. It is really about that simple.
dealer
I don't want to waste my time and your time on this issue.
Thank you for agreeing with me that this issue is a waste of time.
I didn't personally attack anybody. I only posted certain predictions/results and all were true facts....and stock related.
I disagree with you. I have all of your deleted posts to back up my assessment and can review them at any time.
Anyway, let's move on. Keep deleting whatever YOU consider attacks and what I consider FACTS.
Thank you and I will. Please feel free to point out a TOU deleted post deleted by me which you disagree and we can discuss it.
Have a nice evening and welcome to IHUB.
Reid
Reid,
I don't want to waste my time and your time on this issue. I didn't personally attack anybody. I only posted certain predictions/results and all were true facts....and stock related.
BTW since IHUB is a stock talk forum please show me the relevance of such posts:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=50052
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=51344
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=45911
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=46043
Anyway, let's move on. Keep deleting whatever YOU consider attacks and what I consider FACTS.
Good luck to you.
Truth and links are fine. Personal attacks are not fine. Even thinly shaded undertone personal attacks are not fine nor are they permitted on this thread.
There is some wiggle room in the off topic area as well as the subject mater of post content from thread to thread in the Lounge area but the thread creator has the say so within general IHUB TOU.
Dealer has made this threads intent clear. All are welcome to post here. To me this simply means keep the snipping off of the thread and all will be fine.
Unlike SI and Yahoo,….. IHUB is a stock talk forum.
What a novel idea eh?
Reid
Reid, I only posted facts and truth which were all backed by links.
I deleted your posts. Do you really want me to explain why?
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=61564
If you think that I unfairly deleted a post of yours which did not violate the spirit of this threads intended purpose and "it's" TOU then please feel to point it out and we can discuss it.
Sincerely
Reid
Hi Dealie,
Would you mind explaining why you deleted my posts. They didn`t break any of your rules. If you don`t agree please show me where I broke a rule.
Hi All,
Is anyone keeping a candle burning in the porch
window?
There's an expression in the brokerage industry
"The longer the bull, the shorter the bear."
A little heartening news amid the gloom?
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/research/story.gsp?id=1394566&s=CSCO
Regards,
laf
Break rules? LOL .. I don't think so, but I'll HURRY right over there (above here?) to review.
Although, I might indeed be on thin ice posting here.
[Edit #2: Nope. I don't believe I've 'broken' Rules #1-3 .. wow, looking at footnotes below those rules, however ... must comment .. they're pretty da**ned STRICT, yet rather vacuous, would you say, Redmond? Nothing to really 'hang one's hat on." <g>]
[Edit -- uh oh, Redmond ... LOOK: this is a 'safe house' for 'friends' of 'Voltaire. Does that mean we need to buy stock? What do you think? At all times? Particularly RMBS and NEWP? Is that a requirement for being a 'friend of Voltaire?]
Because one of the most iimportant things in my life is to maintain good relationships with people here on the new I-Hub website regardless of anything else.
<g> and <breathless sigh> ...
RMBS @ $200, you say ...
Yep -- in a time machine last year this time.
But, that was before the 4:1 split.
Remember?
bia
<<What do you think?>>
Thinking just gets me in trouble.,.......thats why I just close my eyes and put my finger on the stock page....whatever it touches, I buy.....
Seriously though.....I think it gets worse before it gets better, but I think the time for shorting most stuff has past. I mean, there is alot of sideline money....I just dont know how well I would sleep at night after not shorting sunw or jdsu or atc, at $100+, and then shorting them at $15 or $20....sure, we may, and probably will go lower, but I still think shorting should have been done a long time ago.....nope, I am slowly and cautiously gonna buy on the weakness.....quality that will still be here 10 years from now.....and of course.....all TECH.
Keith, the idiot that hasnt learned his lesson yet and will always be 100% tech
Hi, KG ... well, I think both NYSE and NAZ down ...
... don't hold me to this, of course <g> ... but I predict short-term low of 1500 NAZ easy ... I'll call it as conceivably possible within the next 30 days.
NYSE I'll not venture any guesses ... but probably should ... and short it.
I also think sometime this year that the NAZ will drop to 1200 or below.
Just my opinion, however.
What do you think?
'b-i-a'
###
So, which way do you see the markets going.....predicion for low on naz, and when........?
KG
Welcome back Dealer.
Thanks Rose....
Keith
Good Morning Vendit! Thanks for helping to clean up this thread. I guess we oughta be pretty proud we have a thread that folks just can't stay off of.......
Funny that even the ones that were Banned from the porch on SI seem to be glad they have been given another chance to sit on the porch.......and grab the opportunity to do so. Yes! We really have something special with this porch......keeps 'em coming back.
Everyone is welcome on the porch as long as they are not here to harrass and attack Voltaire or any other porcher. This is still a place for friends of Voltaire.
Thanks again,
dealie
Ah! But there is a big difference between a duplicate post deletion and a post that has been deleted because the poster has violated TOU.
I very much like the fact that a thread creator can set his or her own TOU as outlined in the thread header as long as it stays within IHUB’s TOU it is enforceable.
And of course IH_admin is the ultimate authority here if there is ever a question about defining TOU.
Reid
If 5 or more of your messages are deleted within a one month period, you can be banned from posting for a period of time
I hope an exception would be deletions of duplicate posts. We all have that problem from time to time. <gg>
Hi Julie
I won't rehash your well-made points and I do agree with most of what you said. I am sure dealer appreciates your prospective which in my view is very grown up sounding.
I think something which is important to point out to this boards "would be" detractors is the fact that if 5 of anyone's posts get deleted within a 30 day time frame on IHUB, then that person's account can be pulled for an unspecified time frame.
******************
Posting false information about a poster that can not be backed up by a link or other means of quick verification;
Calling another poster names or being vulgar;
Not staying on topic with the current investment discussion, but instead focusing on an individual poster;
If 5 or more of your messages are deleted within a one month period, you can be banned from posting for a period of time
including posting information you know to be false, unlawful, libelous, harassing, profane, abusive, threatening, vulgar, or otherwise objectionable.
Reid
Hi Reid:) My name is Julie and I follow all the threads and I agree with you... I think it's time we all grow up and act like adults. Acting silly in times when the market is as it is, is one thing. attacking others is maliscious and cruel.. i do notice that voltaire isn't running all over the threads attacking anyone... says something of character in my book :) Happy trading tommorrow... Im gonna pick me up some cheap stock.... hell it's all cheap stock at this point LOL someday before I die I just might gain back all I lost... due to my own stupidity I might add....Im no cult follower... I just like the people on these threads... even some of the negative ones can be amusing... I just wish some of them would grow up just a tad.... i used to be a host on MSN in the teen chats..... and lately that is the same shit I been seeing all over these threads... infantile behavior... come on gang... let's act like the investing adults we all claim to be :) sincerely, Julie
"Documenting Voltaire's posts here is good, IMO, because it goes to credibility"
Documenting V's posts is good but it looks like we can only do it if it's not in a negative way. Look at the three rules that Dealer just added to the original post of this thread and read between the lines.
Very good! This is dealer's thread and dealer sets up Terms of Use here.
I have been reading the thread and I have been deleting posts, which are not in line with dealer's TOU and/or violate IHUB TOU.
Please keep this forum focused on topic via Dealie rules and not "character assassination."
Reid
Market begins to move only after pullback
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=15524153
Talk about playing it safe! Rocky angelic track record lately!
p.s. Not personally attacking, just commenting!
No doubt in my mind RMBS wins big from here and so does NEWP (2001/03/18)
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=15524153
Now, where did I hear that one before?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
(Dealer, don't bother deleting this, I'm not personally attacking a Porcher, I'm just making fun of bia's laugh).
Hi Bonnie,
"Maybe I think that 'RedmondVA' should post as he/she chooses"
Much to Keith's delight I'll reveal my true SI identity......drum roll.....I'm just Voltaire's alter ego (Dealer, that's not a personal attack yet, so there's no reason to delete this). That's why I have been posted as Redmond VA......Voltaire Anonymous (I actually wish I had tought of it at the time).
Keith, maybe I'm just V's Bruce Wayne..........yeah right.....Oh Keith BUY THIS MARKET.
Dealer, don't other delete this post.....I didn't directly attack a Porcher!
Rose,
Thanks for the favor, I owe you one <g>
A great big wave right back atcha Dalin lol
And, yes I'm still laffin' It takes alot
more than a schizoid market in the dumper
to get me down.
edit Rose, I just saw you say you probably
won't post here anymore, That would be a shame.
And yes, I saw the yahoo club, but see that
it's been inactive for some time.
Thanks again.
laf
P.S. You're from my old stomping grounds. We built
a house down in the bay about ten years ago. I
probably wouldn't recognize the place now I suppose.
Bonnie,
Would like to respond to your post but it was deleted by the thread "chairman". Did you attack a porcher? vbg
Laf, it just occurred to me that you could
always post to Polvie at the Yahoo site:
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/nnbm
I'm sure everyone checks in there from time to
time. This will probably be my last post here,
but you can send a Private Message.
rose
Hi laf
I just posted your message over at the Bar
so Polvie can respond to you in his own special
way. LOL, you never know just what he'll say.
I agree with you, it's a great place to hang
out - the best on SI.
Good luck and keep laughing.
rose
Hi Rose,
I've lurqed over at the NNBN(SI)clubhouse for awhile and enjoy the friendly banter. Do you think you could convince polvie to open another franchise over here on IH? I would sure like the opportunity to thank him for the gift of laughter. It's been something sorely needed this past year. If he can't be convinced, would you pass along the gratitude of a total stranger in cyberspace? I would appreciate it. Thanks,Rose
laf
Keith,
"Documenting Voltaire's posts here is good, IMO, because it goes to credibility"
Documenting V's posts is good but it looks like we can only do it if it's not in a negative way. Look at the three rules that Dealer just added to the original post of this thread and read between the lines.
Best of luck to you.
LOL Keith - everything you said - all I can
add is "yup!"
Enjoy your weekend.
rose
May I ask why you refuse to share your SI identity?
Not sharing causes one to conclude one of several things....the worst of which is there is a specific reason you wont give us your SI identity...and that is, if people knew, maybe you would't be taken seriosuly, because of who you are on SI....but bottom line is...you could be bonnie, poet, rose, me ( I swear on a bible it aint me <ggg>), bob, john, susan, or daffy duck......and it doesnr mean a thing, because you are hiding behind a wall of anonymity, and leads one to believe there must be a specific reason you wont give your SI identity......heck maybe you are bonnie, or rose or poet or desusa or heck...maybe your even multi skitso chicken lips JW himself...the point is...fess up to who you are, or at least explain why you wont....
Keith
<<PS/Correction: I think that 'RedmondVA' should post as he/she chooses.
Documenting Voltaire's posts here is good, IMO, because it goes to credibility.
I don't mean at all to say that I 'will take the high road' -- seen that little manipulative ploy 'way too many times -- and it's funny -- those who do the most lying always 'get by with it.'
Frankly, Keith, you're very naive, IMO.>>
First of all Bonnie....it's a free country.....I never said Redmond should not do what he is doing....I thought the question was a matter of how it was being done. Your right, we all should be held accountable for our actions...I agree wholeheartedly....but I 110% disagree with being disrespectful and mocking and taunting and etc.......No matter what anybody thinks, two wrongs do not make a right. Just because you were mocked or tauted, doesn't mean it is correct to do it back....as I said, it is the bigger person that walks away, or acts in a mature manner while the other does his thing. I still stand by " treat thy neighbor as you wish to be treated"...if your neighbor treats you like $hit, then simply ignore him or don't associate with him.
I have nothing against accountability....I just think the bashing, taunting and mocking is ridiculous, uncalled for and has zero positive cosequences. If calling attention to V's mis-calls, or bob's mis-calls or anybodies, certainly it can be done, but why can't it be done out of attack mode? What good will be accomplished with you guys and porchers bashing each other back and forth? Nothing....If bringing to light others actions, market calls or etc is what you wish to do, then by all means, go for it....I just disgaree it should be done in a bashing manner...because all that will cause is retaliation, until somebody is the bigger person and just stops with it.
As far as redmond goes....my beef with him/her is he/she is obviously somebody from SI that has a beef with V. No problem...hey, lots of folks love the guy and lots hate the guy....but coming on here to the hub, with a different identity then at SI and then to bash somebody without disclosing who you are...well, that just doesnt seem right to me......Heck, I have no problem with folks here at the hub knowing who I am...you dont...poet doesnt.....rose doesnt (although, one of you could be redmond...not saying you are, but you could be...thats my whole point)....so the simple reason this person wont say who he or she is leads me to believe suspect certain things.......And remember bonnie...it was you or pet or somebody that talked to me about experiences they had on other sites where folks anonymoulsy bashed you and etc, etc, etc......you didnt like it...didnt think it was fair or whatever.....my whole point is yes, by all means, this is a free country and if you wish to point out a persons actions, then so be it...it could even be a good thing your doing it, but not if your doing it in a bashful manner. By the way, when I say you, I am speaking in general terms...you meaning anybody.
As far as me being naive.....well, you sure are entitled to your opinion, but I am not as naive as you think...heck, you were smart enough to find out my true identity ( not that I try to hide it at all obviously)......do a search on me....find out some history about me......you will see I have been featured in several large, prominent, financial journals...no, not talking about little tidbits in wall street journal, although they did do a feature article on me at one point awhile back...anyway, not bragging by any means, and in fact, you never hear me even mentiong this to all those on the porch that think I am some idiot nobody...why? Because I have nothing to prove to anybody...but I am mentioning it now, just so maybe you may find out a little more about me and see I am not quite as naive as you may think. In fact, if the porchers knew who i really was, and did a little research on me, they also might be quite surprsied...after all, they all think I am some whinny little kid that only likes to be negative all the time.....if they only knew!!!!
Have a good day
Keith
Wow....who ever woulda thunk it<ggg>...jdsu fixing to hit the teens...sunw under twenty and etc, etc, etc.......Luckily I bought some more jdsu at 117 before a addition to s&p...coverd it immeditaley, got a nice fat premium, which expired worthless, then immediatley sold for a nice profit as well....but I held my other shares, and still do, and still will<ggg>....In fact, I really dont mind watching jdsu fall....the thought of adding some gives me the warm fuzzies...the thought of adding some at even cheaper prices, gives me even warmer fuzzies...same with alot of my quality stocks...give me a chance to buy quality at $10 and I'll be all over it......The bubble burst....we may never see prices like that again for along time, but it doesnt mean we can't still take advantage of this.....we may have further to fall...and it could last awhile, who knows....the longer it lasts, the longer we have to aquire quality at low prices and build a nice little long term hod basket.....so, I am trying to stay positive....one day we recover....if it's soon, I'll be happy...if it's not, I wont be thrilled, but I will look at the posotives and the positives are simply having more time to buy cheaper stocks.......just look at all the quality that is beaten down....heck, if your thinking long term, I think TODAYS prices are fantastic and ten years from now you will be higher more then likely...maybe even next year...but I would hope by 5 - 10 years we are higher ( keeping fingers crossedn as I type<ggg>...BUT, just think, we have a better then 50% chance that we go lower and get even better prices. AllensAlias, who seems to be a pretty smart fellow with no agnenda ( see, I like bulls and bears.....it's the individual that counts )thinks we should stay open to the possibility that this takes years to dig out from under....well, if so.....I may not like it, and I may not be buying any fancy new cars or houses for awhile, but I know my wifes 401k will be better...the longer the market is down, the more she will be buying every week at low and lower prices....and for me and my portfolio/trading...well, if we stay down for years....looks like I'll be buying lots and lots of jdsu, sunw and other quality companies, so when the market does turn upward, be it one year or ten years, I will have a boatload of stock to go up. As it is now...lets say we turn around by january...I will not have nearly as much stock at low prices as I would like...BUT, if we stay down for 2 - 5 years, I'll have a truckload of quality by then.....heck, I have held jdsu all the way down to $20 or so.....what the hell is another $10 or $15 at this point...same with most all the stocks I own....so, I am going to try and stay positive and be happy no matter what the market does....worse case scenario is we just flatline......not up or down. I wont get any real low ball discounts and current holdings will just sit and not appreciate...so either up or down, and I'll make the best of it.
Good luck
Keith
Ha...yea, that was a pretty funny post....one thing about donnie....I think he's a real good guy....He can dish it out, but he also can take it.....and he loves dishing it out AND taking it <lol>
Have a good one
Good luck Keith.
PS/Correction: I think that 'RedmondVA' should post as he/she chooses.
Documenting Voltaire's posts here is good, IMO, because it goes to credibility.
I don't mean at all to say that I 'will take the high road' -- seen that little manipulative ploy 'way too many times -- and it's funny -- those who do the most lying always 'get by with it.'
Frankly, Keith, you're very naive, IMO.
I say to 'RedmondVA' ... LOL ... and go for it.
Exposing the character of these self-appointed icons is what it's all about.
I feel will survive and prosper in the long term
I feel that way too Keith, especially with my JDSU.
Good luck.
rose
Rose -- oh, no ... I'm sorry. At least you got out @ 22, though.
Me? Follow anythign down? LOL. In a word, yes.
This is a guess without actually going back to count up .... about a year ago, I had positions in 25-30 stocks. Most tech (all the big ones -- SUNW, MSFT, CSCO, INTC, WCOM, etc) with a few DJIA. Plus four mutual funds.
Today, I am in three stocks -- GE -- and it ain't a very big position at all. QQQ -- again, rather small position. And 200 sh of some 'old' DIS.
I hold puts on SEBL.
And the rest is cash.
I sold most of those 'way late ... many I was able to cop profit, but nothing like, of course, what I could have made (kept <g>) had I had the sense to sell last year this time.
I suppose I plan to reinvest 50% again ... when the market turns. Up, like. <g> I don't mind missing the bottom at all ... so I'm sure I will.
HAve a good weekend, Rosie et al ...
bia
I held most of my stuff as well thru the downturn...even bought more on all these supposed bottoms...uh, duh.....but at this point, I wont sell sunw for $18, jdsu low 20's and etc....I held for this long, I will continue and when I feel the time is right I will add to my quality issues I feel will survive and prosper in the long term
best,
keith
C'mon Bonnie......be the bigger person here....we all know that two wrongs don't make a right....we also know, it is the bigger person that can simply walk away from this bashing, then to keep contributing to it....be the bigger person. I think it may have been poet ....or somebody else that said they agreed with what redmond was doing AS LONG AS HE DOES IT POLITELY.
I agree, but that is not what is happening.....I will be the first to admitt when I am wrong or anybody is wrong...including Voltaire....and I wont hld back what I feel....but I honestly do try to say whatever I am saying, to wjomever I am saying it too, with respect. We all had bad calls this past year........no reason why we can't discuss our failures, but I dont see why they can't be discussed in a mature manner. I see no reason for folks to fight back and forth, putting each other down and etc, etc....what do we gain from this...is it constructive? And it doesnt matter who started it....the japanese started it by bombing pearl harbor...and millions of japanese died becaue we retaliated. Do you think Japan would do things differently knowing what they know now? Would the US? I think they both would, after the fact, realize that nothing good came out of it...it would have been better to dicuss things and work them out. I see nothing wrong with discussing anybodies stock picks, right or wrong, I see alot wrong with all this infighting and bashing going on...it gets nobody nowhere...eventually, somebody has to be the biger person and put and end to this...who is that person(s) going to be.
Respectfully...and not targeted at you...just points for all to ponder......
Keith
Julie....good luck....looks like we are long the same stocks...although I did sell my cmgi at $3.50 ( had about .50 cost basis due to trading in and out ) and bought more icge....building a nice position with icge as she stays down and will keep buying if the markets take her down to the pennies. I feel, IMO, that icge is doing all the right things to eventually survive and prosper...they have good solid companies under their belt...plenty of cash....solid alliances and a plan they are working towards which looks very good to me....cmgi, much more of a crapshoot as they rely moreso on ad revenue and taking their .nothings to ipo........cmgi has some ok companies, and some not so ok companies...icge, imo, has more legitamate businesses under their belt which are moving towards profitabilty on their own...dont rely as much on ad revenue or ipo's, althoug taking any of their companies public when the market turns for the better, will be icing on the cake.....
good luck
Keith
<<Hi Keith,
Will you agree that the man has a serious problem, and I am not joking about this.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=15501083
R>>
I will agree that WE ALL have problems....and I will also agree that I will not converse with you unless you tell me your SI identity.....I dont like playing games......there must be a reason why you wont disclose your SI identity....I can understand not wanting to reveal your real name...but not saying who you are on SI leads me to believe you have something to hide and.or a specific agenda, of which I have no idea what it is. So, fess up...or post to someone else please....no hard feelings here...just like to know who I am talking to, or would rather not talk. Heck, you may be somebody I like and get along with on SI, but your failure to disclose your si identity leads me to believe otherwise.
keith
Im at the bar <g> Love bars!!!!!!
Ya want to????? I'm game <g>
Jack, we've gotta stop meeting this way.
Why don't we just hang out at "the Bar"?
rose
Why don't we start our own thread and call it
"The Dim-Witts Mutual Admiration Society".
Dollars to donuts it would be the most popular site
going!
We are not alone
rose
ROFLMAO!!!!!! I have followed every one of my stocks down LOL Talk about dim witted <g> So now Im gonna just hang onto all my junk and wait ten years and then check to see if any of them are still afloat ROFL Glad to hear I'm not the only fool around <g> Luf, Julie
Hi Julie
Nice to hear from you again.
You can find some of us over at Polvie's Bar.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/subject.gsp?subjectid=36873
That's were he and Clappy (when he's not on
holidays mainly hang out. I was tossed off
the porch so 'iffen I gots' anything to say,
I generally say it at the "Bar", but it's
pretty much nonsense anyway.
I hope you've managed to hold it all together
during this nasty downturn.
rose
Shit Bonnie, I own (owned) RMBS too. (g)
Not much, mind you, but and I sold it
today at $22.00. Not nice to poke fun at
the dim-witted (no offense Julie, I'm referring
to myself.)
And I've followed down it for the past year,
along with JDSU, NT, etcetera, etcetera.
(I knew I shouldn't have watched "The King
and I" again)
Do you not have anything that you've
followed down? If not, you are a better man
than I, gunga din (g).
rosie
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