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NTAP just warned.....watcha think Frank...is $12 realistic for me to shoot for?
Yep, I assume The Other Porch must be it.....and honestly Frank, this isn;t really about me expressing my feelings....it's about anybody being able to without fear of being predjudiced against, which whether you admitt or not, happens all the time on all the investement forums. This is not a siste for people to attack and bring their personal agenda's, but at the same time, people need a place where they can speak freely without fear of being persecuted for their opinions by others with personal or biased views against that person. Simply put, folks should be allowed to excercise their right to free speech without worry about repurcussions as long as no laws are broken or TOS of the site are broken.....it's the american way.......
Keith.......wondering if this is another bear trap, and actually hoping it is because I still want some ntap under $12 and wouldn't mind more jdsu or sunw for $10 or less......does this rally have sustainable legs, or do we retest soon, or bounce hard backwards off of 2000...inquiring minds...and isiots like me, want to know <ggg>
>> Title to new thread has been changed to Other Porchers
Couldn't find it, though I see one titled, The Other Porch. Is that your new site?
I'm glad you've founded a forum where you can express yourself in your own style about topics close to your heart. I always felt that was the best solution for folks who were at odds with an existing thread, but some seem to prefer trying to tear down rather than build.
uf
Title to new thread has been changed to
Other Porchers
Feel free to visit and speak your mind freely.....just dont break the IHUB TOS, and all will be fine.
Keith
Is this a bear trap....or is this rally for real......opinions of those not banned from this site would be appreciated. For those that are banned from this site or SI's Porch, I have started up a site titled Banned Porchers, here on IHUB, and will do the same on SI later. The purpose of these new threads is not for spiteful purposes or for attacking others....it is simply a place where one can go and express their opinions, without fear of being deleted or banned based on a biased or predjudiced view. Basically, the thread is made so that we as Americans are protected with our god given rights of Free Speech without fear of Predjudice. Anybody and everybody is welcome, as are all opinions and viewpoints.
OK Guys, come on now...
I feel like a Kindergarten Cop <g>
I am not exactly sure why everybody here is so frustrated. When you registered with IH you agreed to the rules.
Yes, things get deleted fast around here. But only when they are laced with comments on personalities and/or personal attacks.
I don't care if you wrote a Thesis on the economic slowdown. If you write one sentence attacking someone, then I am going to allow it go get deleted. We are simply NOT tolerating personal attacks, offtopic garbage, spam. It does nothing but mess the threads up. I want to read about investmens and investments only.
If you don't like the Rules, you don't have to post. But there is a reason the other sites are in the condition they are -- they no longer talk stocks.
matt
so It looks to me like the first person that throws a punch gets deleted, but the person doing the deleting, gets to delete, yet keep their off topic stuff on the thread.
I would say that you pretty well hit the nail on the head and defined Matt's Chairman Of The Board concept with your above statement.
Reid
I have one name and one name only....KG4
Nor do I agree with what is transpiring on this thread......Dealie/vendit...I will be the first to agree that probably 80% of the posts on this thread should have been deleted, but it is also obvious that some posts are being deleted, not because of content, but because of the person posting....my post yesterday was deleted and it thought it brought up excellent points that the bashers need to go on because they have turned this board into a waste of time...seemed pretty useful, needed and on topic to me...yet it was instantly deleted...that is when I researched and noticed everything else was deleted....a poster made a three line comment to me about cmgi and the good ole days, and whether we will ever see $300 again....I dont know this poster, but that is irreleveant...the post was short sweet and only mentioned cmgi....yet that post was deleted....there are many instances where posts that should not be deleted are...maybe this is because 80% should be deleted and yall are going overboard and deleting everything, but more care needs to be put into what is deleted, or it clearly looks loike a personal matter, and not a content matter.
Anyway, I showed up here yesterday because I was apalled at the non stop bashing, and all the time you and dealie were wasting having to police the thread...I tried to make things better....my post made more sense then anything I read on this board for two weeks....I mean something had to give, it was just getting ridiculous over here.......my post was a good thing for this thread, and it's intent was good...yet it was deleted as quick as you can say the word delete........how come I see plenty of off topic posts from dealie and you, that are still there...not deleted....that doesnt make much sense to me......it takes two to tango...one person bashes voltaire.....it is, and should be deleted, but then you or dealie respond to that person with more off topic stuff, yet that stuff isn't deleted....so It looks to me like the first person that throws a punch gets deleted, but the person doing the deleting, gets to delete, yet keep their off topic stuff on the thread.
I sincerely hope this post is not deleted, as these things are very pertinent to the survival of this thread.
Sincerly,
Keith
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Reid
Bonnie, I think we should be allowed to talk about any stock and any investment strategy. We should also be allowed to freely applaud, or criticize, any analysts, experts, or others who turn out to be totally right or totally wrong.
Hey, Matt ... is it 'okay' to discuss puts on such stocks as ...
CIEN, JNPR, CSCO, BEAS, NEWP, RMBS, etc?
Or is shorting on your I-HUB board 'restricted' to threads that are 'committed' to such?
TIA,
bia
well, your reply to me was deleted....all I saw was
you sure seem to wo
but when I clicked on it, I see it was deleted.....send me your thoughts via pm...I'd love to hear them
With all due respect, I posted something along the same lines as you just did...and that post was deleted. I told the Voltaire bashers to go someplace else and told dealie and vendit to stop wasting so much time....yet it was deleted. Did you review those posts? Why on earth were they deleted???
I also would like to know why after seeeing that I was deleted I did some research and I show severalposts that I made and were made back to me that were 100% stock related, yet they were deleted....What you fail to realize is that this is not a content related thing....it's personal. I only just realized this today. Until today, I have been a true friend and compatriot to Voltaire and dealie.....but afters seeing my post deleted I researched back and see that posts from me and to me were deleted that only talked about stocks or the market. In fact, one poster sent me a PM that said " keith, I will prove to you this is personal and I will make a post 100% stock related, and I guarantee that post will be removed"...I saw the post when it was posted and it said something like, I see the charts showing more downward momentum....what do you see happening.....that was it...that was the whole post.......it was deleted.....another person posted to me about cmgi and said "ahhh, the good old days, do you ever think we'' see those days again:...I responded that no i didnt think cmgi would ever see $300 again....both the other person and my post was deleted........certainly there is more to this then content...it is apparent there are personal issues dictating the authority on this thread..........why else are people being targeted rather then content??? I am so perturbed at this, I am going to explore going over your head if you dont help resolve this matter....IHUB is not going to survive if folks can do what they are doing and get away with it....heck I agree with you that 95% of the posts on here should be, and were deleted...that was my whole point in posting earlier...to tell the bashers to go someplace else and get this thread back to normal....yet that post was deleted??????Along with many posts I now see that were on topic......it's not the content being deleted, it's the people, Mr. Administrator, can you not see that. I am going to PM this to you as well, because it may not last 5 minutes on the thread. I think what is going on here is a travesty...I showed up here to help get things back in order, and I get "DELETED"...if you can't see this is personal, then you are blind. You are letting tha fact that yes, probably 80% of the posts deleted should have been deleted, but there are plenty that shouldnt have been and were only deleted for personal reasons. Thats sir is clear as a bell and cab be proven just by looking at those couplsposts I was referring to that were 100% market related, yet are now gone!!
OK, 16 messages deleted today...
And hardly any of them had anything to do with stocks..
This thread appears to be in a "we almost want to move over" mode..So the meat of the thread, the "friends" of Voltaire are not here yet.
So I don't expect too much stock discussion. Im going to leave all the messages that were deleted today, removed...
Let's move forward from right now with a clean slate and just discuss stocks. I have no patience for talking about online personalities. Simply not what this place is for. If you hvae an issue about your posts being deleted, just email support@investorshub.com ... Don't bother responding on the thread, it just adds to the fire, and ultimately, it's pointless, because I am the one who writes it off as a deletion or restores the post..
Friendly banter or stock discussions, please...
Have a good weekend!
matt
I think it would help you to no longer have to wonder if you would try to figure that out yourself.
dealie
I will treat you as a joke if you insist.
Reid
Tell me a little about yourself if you don't mind. Do you trade or are you like I was in 1995 and wondering what the term trader meant?
In other words "what is your investment style preference".
Reid
Thanks Reid,
BTW, Although the charts are not always correct they beat the heck out of blindly guessing, Oh how I could not more agree with you!
Not exactly.....This is a place for friends of Voltaire as stated in the header.
I do not desire now or in the future to get on subjects that are not adding something postive to this thread, such as this subject.
dealie
Please read the header and you will understand that this is a gathering place for friends of Voltaire's
Do you understand what a friend is? To me it is a person that makes you feel good
Dealie, are you saying that one can only post here if it`s to make Tom feel good?
RV! I am glad Vendit is helping me with this board......and appreciate his answering your question. Vendit and I both stay quite busy with our investments and trying to help others that there is little time for such as this.
Do you understand what a friend is? To me it is a person that makes you feel good.
Question: Are you a friend of Voltaire's???
Please read the header and you will understand that this is a gathering place for friends of Voltaire's. It is really about that simple.
dealer
I don't want to waste my time and your time on this issue.
Thank you for agreeing with me that this issue is a waste of time.
I didn't personally attack anybody. I only posted certain predictions/results and all were true facts....and stock related.
I disagree with you. I have all of your deleted posts to back up my assessment and can review them at any time.
Anyway, let's move on. Keep deleting whatever YOU consider attacks and what I consider FACTS.
Thank you and I will. Please feel free to point out a TOU deleted post deleted by me which you disagree and we can discuss it.
Have a nice evening and welcome to IHUB.
Reid
Reid,
I don't want to waste my time and your time on this issue. I didn't personally attack anybody. I only posted certain predictions/results and all were true facts....and stock related.
BTW since IHUB is a stock talk forum please show me the relevance of such posts:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=50052
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=51344
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=45911
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=46043
Anyway, let's move on. Keep deleting whatever YOU consider attacks and what I consider FACTS.
Good luck to you.
Truth and links are fine. Personal attacks are not fine. Even thinly shaded undertone personal attacks are not fine nor are they permitted on this thread.
There is some wiggle room in the off topic area as well as the subject mater of post content from thread to thread in the Lounge area but the thread creator has the say so within general IHUB TOU.
Dealer has made this threads intent clear. All are welcome to post here. To me this simply means keep the snipping off of the thread and all will be fine.
Unlike SI and Yahoo,….. IHUB is a stock talk forum.
What a novel idea eh?
Reid
Reid, I only posted facts and truth which were all backed by links.
I deleted your posts. Do you really want me to explain why?
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=61564
If you think that I unfairly deleted a post of yours which did not violate the spirit of this threads intended purpose and "it's" TOU then please feel to point it out and we can discuss it.
Sincerely
Reid
Hi Dealie,
Would you mind explaining why you deleted my posts. They didn`t break any of your rules. If you don`t agree please show me where I broke a rule.
Hi All,
Is anyone keeping a candle burning in the porch
window?
There's an expression in the brokerage industry
"The longer the bull, the shorter the bear."
A little heartening news amid the gloom?
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/research/story.gsp?id=1394566&s=CSCO
Regards,
laf
Break rules? LOL .. I don't think so, but I'll HURRY right over there (above here?) to review.
Although, I might indeed be on thin ice posting here.
[Edit #2: Nope. I don't believe I've 'broken' Rules #1-3 .. wow, looking at footnotes below those rules, however ... must comment .. they're pretty da**ned STRICT, yet rather vacuous, would you say, Redmond? Nothing to really 'hang one's hat on." <g>]
[Edit -- uh oh, Redmond ... LOOK: this is a 'safe house' for 'friends' of 'Voltaire. Does that mean we need to buy stock? What do you think? At all times? Particularly RMBS and NEWP? Is that a requirement for being a 'friend of Voltaire?]
Because one of the most iimportant things in my life is to maintain good relationships with people here on the new I-Hub website regardless of anything else.
<g> and <breathless sigh> ...
RMBS @ $200, you say ...
Yep -- in a time machine last year this time.
But, that was before the 4:1 split.
Remember?
bia
<<What do you think?>>
Thinking just gets me in trouble.,.......thats why I just close my eyes and put my finger on the stock page....whatever it touches, I buy.....
Seriously though.....I think it gets worse before it gets better, but I think the time for shorting most stuff has past. I mean, there is alot of sideline money....I just dont know how well I would sleep at night after not shorting sunw or jdsu or atc, at $100+, and then shorting them at $15 or $20....sure, we may, and probably will go lower, but I still think shorting should have been done a long time ago.....nope, I am slowly and cautiously gonna buy on the weakness.....quality that will still be here 10 years from now.....and of course.....all TECH.
Keith, the idiot that hasnt learned his lesson yet and will always be 100% tech
Hi, KG ... well, I think both NYSE and NAZ down ...
... don't hold me to this, of course <g> ... but I predict short-term low of 1500 NAZ easy ... I'll call it as conceivably possible within the next 30 days.
NYSE I'll not venture any guesses ... but probably should ... and short it.
I also think sometime this year that the NAZ will drop to 1200 or below.
Just my opinion, however.
What do you think?
'b-i-a'
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So, which way do you see the markets going.....predicion for low on naz, and when........?
KG
Welcome back Dealer.
Thanks Rose....
Keith
Good Morning Vendit! Thanks for helping to clean up this thread. I guess we oughta be pretty proud we have a thread that folks just can't stay off of.......
Funny that even the ones that were Banned from the porch on SI seem to be glad they have been given another chance to sit on the porch.......and grab the opportunity to do so. Yes! We really have something special with this porch......keeps 'em coming back.
Everyone is welcome on the porch as long as they are not here to harrass and attack Voltaire or any other porcher. This is still a place for friends of Voltaire.
Thanks again,
dealie
Ah! But there is a big difference between a duplicate post deletion and a post that has been deleted because the poster has violated TOU.
I very much like the fact that a thread creator can set his or her own TOU as outlined in the thread header as long as it stays within IHUB’s TOU it is enforceable.
And of course IH_admin is the ultimate authority here if there is ever a question about defining TOU.
Reid
If 5 or more of your messages are deleted within a one month period, you can be banned from posting for a period of time
I hope an exception would be deletions of duplicate posts. We all have that problem from time to time. <gg>
Hi Julie
I won't rehash your well-made points and I do agree with most of what you said. I am sure dealer appreciates your prospective which in my view is very grown up sounding.
I think something which is important to point out to this boards "would be" detractors is the fact that if 5 of anyone's posts get deleted within a 30 day time frame on IHUB, then that person's account can be pulled for an unspecified time frame.
******************
Posting false information about a poster that can not be backed up by a link or other means of quick verification;
Calling another poster names or being vulgar;
Not staying on topic with the current investment discussion, but instead focusing on an individual poster;
If 5 or more of your messages are deleted within a one month period, you can be banned from posting for a period of time
including posting information you know to be false, unlawful, libelous, harassing, profane, abusive, threatening, vulgar, or otherwise objectionable.
Reid
Hi Reid:) My name is Julie and I follow all the threads and I agree with you... I think it's time we all grow up and act like adults. Acting silly in times when the market is as it is, is one thing. attacking others is maliscious and cruel.. i do notice that voltaire isn't running all over the threads attacking anyone... says something of character in my book :) Happy trading tommorrow... Im gonna pick me up some cheap stock.... hell it's all cheap stock at this point LOL someday before I die I just might gain back all I lost... due to my own stupidity I might add....Im no cult follower... I just like the people on these threads... even some of the negative ones can be amusing... I just wish some of them would grow up just a tad.... i used to be a host on MSN in the teen chats..... and lately that is the same shit I been seeing all over these threads... infantile behavior... come on gang... let's act like the investing adults we all claim to be :) sincerely, Julie
"Documenting Voltaire's posts here is good, IMO, because it goes to credibility"
Documenting V's posts is good but it looks like we can only do it if it's not in a negative way. Look at the three rules that Dealer just added to the original post of this thread and read between the lines.
Very good! This is dealer's thread and dealer sets up Terms of Use here.
I have been reading the thread and I have been deleting posts, which are not in line with dealer's TOU and/or violate IHUB TOU.
Please keep this forum focused on topic via Dealie rules and not "character assassination."
Reid
Market begins to move only after pullback
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=15524153
Talk about playing it safe! Rocky angelic track record lately!
p.s. Not personally attacking, just commenting!
No doubt in my mind RMBS wins big from here and so does NEWP (2001/03/18)
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=15524153
Now, where did I hear that one before?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
(Dealer, don't bother deleting this, I'm not personally attacking a Porcher, I'm just making fun of bia's laugh).
Hi Bonnie,
"Maybe I think that 'RedmondVA' should post as he/she chooses"
Much to Keith's delight I'll reveal my true SI identity......drum roll.....I'm just Voltaire's alter ego (Dealer, that's not a personal attack yet, so there's no reason to delete this). That's why I have been posted as Redmond VA......Voltaire Anonymous (I actually wish I had tought of it at the time).
Keith, maybe I'm just V's Bruce Wayne..........yeah right.....Oh Keith BUY THIS MARKET.
Dealer, don't other delete this post.....I didn't directly attack a Porcher!
Rose,
Thanks for the favor, I owe you one <g>
A great big wave right back atcha Dalin lol
And, yes I'm still laffin' It takes alot
more than a schizoid market in the dumper
to get me down.
edit Rose, I just saw you say you probably
won't post here anymore, That would be a shame.
And yes, I saw the yahoo club, but see that
it's been inactive for some time.
Thanks again.
laf
P.S. You're from my old stomping grounds. We built
a house down in the bay about ten years ago. I
probably wouldn't recognize the place now I suppose.
Bonnie,
Would like to respond to your post but it was deleted by the thread "chairman". Did you attack a porcher? vbg
Laf, it just occurred to me that you could
always post to Polvie at the Yahoo site:
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/nnbm
I'm sure everyone checks in there from time to
time. This will probably be my last post here,
but you can send a Private Message.
rose
Hi laf
I just posted your message over at the Bar
so Polvie can respond to you in his own special
way. LOL, you never know just what he'll say.
I agree with you, it's a great place to hang
out - the best on SI.
Good luck and keep laughing.
rose
Hi Rose,
I've lurqed over at the NNBN(SI)clubhouse for awhile and enjoy the friendly banter. Do you think you could convince polvie to open another franchise over here on IH? I would sure like the opportunity to thank him for the gift of laughter. It's been something sorely needed this past year. If he can't be convinced, would you pass along the gratitude of a total stranger in cyberspace? I would appreciate it. Thanks,Rose
laf
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