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We need to come up with a rule for this Top People thing.
re-read this over and over and over
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=277402
It seems to only really affect the OTC players here. They are the only ones bent on manipulating it. And that isn't cool.
So, let's play ball.
I'm proposing that if I catch you begging for people marks (publicly or privately) or doing anything to artificially mess with your rating, you are going to get whacked by about 20+ spots on the list. And have to rebuild it the right way from there.
And I'll bookmark anybody who catches somebody doing it.
Maybe we could also include number of posts deleted negatively affecting a rating. Makes sense to me.
Why would you want to artificially increase your score, anyways?
If it's not real, then what good does it do for you?
and for every pm i get from your groupies i report them and refer to this post
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=277402
and this is a fav of mine re manipulated MM's
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=277458
>>Serious Question: Why can't we beg/negotiate for people marks, and how would you catch us?<<
Because it's manipulation, man.
How would I catch you? Well, some people post this stuff publicly.
Others send me copies of PMs they get from others (regarding the beggars). I take a lot of folks here at their word that the PM is real. Until they give me a reason to not trust them.
Why would you want to artificially increase your score, anyways?
If it's not real, then what good does it do for you?
you really take that shit way too seriously
and as i told u ihub is never gonna let u see who has u MM'd
I guess you have missed all the action on that board as of late?
Personmarks seem to be the No.1 discussion.
I have tried my best to send that discussion to this board. But to no avail.
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then i suggest u ask that question on ihubs ques/answer bd asap and see how quick the admins laff u off the bd
i tell u it aint ever gonna happen
only nosey egotists seem to think they deserve to see has them MM'd
iHub should allow members to approve or deny a person mark. There are several things that conflict with person marks. You don't know who is following you, and that could put your investment in jeopardy. Someone could swap person marks and then remove it immediately.
Solution to person marks, put a or thumbs up button next to posts & boards.
How about a button on the mobile apps next to posts
I think it would solve a lot of problems.
It would also reveal a lot of two faced individuals.
ihub is never going to let the MM egotists see who has them marked
that would be just another way to retaliate IF u un-marked an alias
I have deleted as many posts as I could that were not on Topic.
Please stay on topic.
Thank you.
Posted this a couple months ago.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=68214920
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All posts are just opinions, not investment advice. Read the disclaimer.... Buy it or Don't. Don't care!
By all means then, feel free to explain your stance with a clearer picture.
Seriously, Your trying to put words in my mouth. If you want to discuss I will be more than happy to.
But keep it with in the realm of reality.
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If the person is addressing something TOWARDS you, and then it turns out to be a scam, yes I would say they share responsibility.
Again, are you saying criminals will be criminals and it's a persons lot in life to dodge them? This sounds like the belief system of a criminal.
Again we misunderstand each other. That comment was for you this time not for the whole world of investors. And 7Billion people in the world and of course everyone should be held accountable for everyone else's choices, RIGHT? NOT!
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Aren't we supposed to be talking about personmarks?...LOL
I'm sorry, but I'm just not buying it.
OK, so you are responsible for being so stupid as to get yourself involved with any penny stocks you choose. Granted.
However, there are newbies in the world, and some don't yet know what they have gotten themselves into. As has been for all of us, it's a time progression. We are not born with wisdom.
I do agree that if you continue to throw away your money after being burnt numerous times, with the belief that "this time is different"; or you think the SEC is involved with protecting naked shorters and yet you STILL throw your money into these stocks, then yes, you have probably gotten what you deserved.
However, stating that it's your fault for getting taken would be akin to your government blowing your social security and it's your fault for allowing it.
You don't feel the criminals have any responsibility at all? You think all the world should be "buyer beware"? Pretty cynical world you live in.
Hi fd, First let me say that I just used your post not a direct statement to you. Second, my point was the TOS and TOU are King here on IH and that is what members should go by. And if there is nothing about PersonMarks and how they can and should be obtained. Then let anyone give them for whatever reason they want, or not.
Thirdly, your money is your own and Only YOU can decide to Put it in Play or Not. Don't try and Play the Blame Game for Something that is Ultimately Under Your Complete Control
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amusing..That could be your agenda. The term covers a wide spectrum!
I have no agenda here. I am offended by your inference. OK, I do have the agenda of amusing myself. Does that count?
BTW, I disagree on your point that no one should be held accountable for anything. Have you not noticed how the owner of this site was held accountable? The only thing that should matter here is your alias reputation. There is nothing more to judge an alias by. If you are a paid tout to push some scam penny stocks, I say, by all means lets label you as you are and hold you accountable. You are getting paid money to try and steal from me. I would hold you just as accountable as if you reached in my pocket and snatched my wallet.
This is a stock message board. Everyone here has an agenda. Take it all with a grain of salt. No one here should be held accountable for anything, except Following the TOS and TOU. And neither of those say that you can not Solicit PersonMarks. PersonMark anyone you want for whatever reason you want.
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One Mans Opinion...
Only when my wife will allow it.
Which is not often.
But hey, every once in awhile is good enough for me!
Lol
Can you pick up chicks like you got in your siggy? I wan't to learn?
I don't go around looking for others who know how to trade and pick stocks.
I already know how.
Hello board, great idea i may add, i am book marking everyone i see here, please be so kind as to do the same for me. GLTA....
No, you are confusing points. Someone can personmark anyone for whatever reason they choose. They may like the alias name, they may hate the person and don't want to forget them. They may think the person watches the same TV shows.
However, in your scenario discussing stock pickers, your choices you gave were a poor subset.
In truth, trusting 98% of the posters on here for stock picks is folly. One just needs to listen to me.
Agreed.. it doesn`t make very much sense...
to personmark people on a stock website for the reasons that he claims he personmarks others for..
That would be a nightmare trying to look over all those additional highlighted posts trying to find the few members that he personmarked because they actually knew how to trade stocks ..
Also when it comes to building a reputation... that definitely is something that can`t be achieved simply by dropping by the PEB 3 or 4 times a week... Unless their intention is to build a BAD reputation..
imho
Seems dumb. Why pick anyone until they build themself a reputation. The answer is, spend a little effort researching their picks, wait a month, then pick the one who knows what they are talking about.
I'm not a Simon Caldwell.
You`re right.. this isn`t American Idol..
BUT based on the reasons why you personmark people listed below..
If this WAS American Idol..
I couldn`t imagine you voting for any contestant because they actually know how to SING..
Wow... with all those different folks personmarked..
Over three quarters of the posts must be highlighted on the stock boards that you visit..
That must make it really difficult to locate the posts of the ones that know how to trade stocks...
But this isn't American Idol. You are still going on the false primise that "someone being a good trader and good DD posters" are the main and only reasons to mark(vote for) someone.
I may just like a guys Sig.
I may just like one comment.
I like an individuals personality.
That person seems interesting.
I may give a personmark to someone "just because".
I may mark someone because they PM'ed me and we talked a bit and they seem like a nice person.
I may exchange marks with someone because he/she want's to exchange with me. I don't need any reason.
Perhaps some people are stingy with their giving of personmarks. I and many others are not like that.
We are liberals in that department I guess...Lol
Perhaps you attribute too high of value to the giving of your personmarks in general and look at them as a "vote" of "excellence".
It would appear so, hence the American Idol analogy.
By the way, I just gave you a personmark.
Lets compare the PEB to American Idol:
Everybody that visits the PEB are sort of like contestants in a singing contest...
The main difference being is that they collect votes BEFORE any of them have actually even sang their first song.
Only AFTER you have voted for them will you actually learn if they can sing or not.
75% of them probably either can`t sing or they sing mediocre at best..
The comparison of course being that on the PEB other traders (many who are virtual strangers) receive personmarks BEFORE anyone actually knows if they are decent traders or are worthy of being marked..
Once it becomes known that some of the ones personmarked ARE NOT worthy of marking; then I am guessing that several people have decided to remove the marks AFTER the exchange..
"Personally I wouldn`t want a bunch of highlighted posts from traders that I felt would cause me to lose money; so why should the next person?"
It may not seem very fair that some remove the marks AFTER THE FACT... But in all honesty the marks weren`t truly EARNED marks to begin with...
I read someones post that said "I guess that (having some personmarks removed after the exchange) just goes along with the territory".
In the end I guess it all boils down to HONESTY.. something that many feel is not synonymous with the PEB..
But at least on American Idol you CAN`T take back your vote once you have made it...
imho
I will and been have been honest...
I find that more and more it is not wise to put people into a [[BOX]].
I admit that there are many Trader B's. No argument there.
But lets be honest here MGP..
I would feel fairly certain that the vast majority of traders that visit the PEB are of the Trader B mindset.. Trying to get something (personmarks) with virtually little or no effort... with VERY LITTLE CONCERN of whether it helps anyone else but THEMSELVES make money..
If you sir are actually a Trader C.. then you are more than likely the exception and not the rule..
In my opinion the board that you created has become a tool that has helped to empowered a whole new generation of Trader B`s... the ones that look out for no one else but themselves..
And I would also be fairly certain that a majority of Trader A`s (the ones that truly worked hard to achieve their stature and following) feel deceived by the existence of the PEB..
In my humble opinion..
I understand..but life is not that simple...let's look at Trader C
Also worked their tale off calling CEO's...transfer agents,...doing DD..(I do this and will continue to do this)
"but also relized that the big world of penny and sub-penny stock trading needs more than just DD and work.
It needs "PUMP".
"He relized that most people are pumpers but will not admit it to themselves...much less others."
He also worked hard at getting maximum personmarks and making himself known in his stock trading Universe..iHub because he relizes he could bring BUYING POWER to a play.
So that....
He could bring MAXIMUM force(BUYING POWER) to a play when he entered it.
Thereby creating the maximum chance of "profitibility for himself and ALL THAT FOLLOWED him.
For All......not just himself.
Let me say it again....ALL
Not just himself.
This is only just a small part of "Trader C's" outlook...
Scenario:
ALL OPINIONS WELCOMED..
Two different traders.. each trader has 500 personmarks.. You have both traders personmarked..
Trader A worked their tail off spending countless hours researching his stock trades, making phone calls to companies, transfer agents etc.. finally posting due diligence and annotated stock charts..
Trader B worked their tail off spending countless hours over at the Personmark Exchange Board exchanging personmarks with everybody that posts there.. Then uses all his/her newly acquired personmarks as a means of lending creditibility so they can relentlessly pump their stock trades..
You personmarked Trader A because you liked his/her due diligence and they seemed like a knowledgeable trader..
You personmarked Trader B because he/she stopped by the PEB..
Questions:
Each trader mentions a different stock symbol as a good stock at a reasonable purchase price.. Which trader would you be more inclined to believe based on their word alone?
Which trader would you rather add as a moderator on your stock forum?
Since you have both traders personmarked both of their posts are highlighted so neither stands out from the other.. Which traders postings would you truly be looking out for?
Sorry, I don't have you marked, so I can't unmark you.
Do you have me marked?
If you do, can you please unmark me?
Thanks. ( ;
I feel your pain!!!
I want less lbs. on my body.
Everyone wants personmarks....."more" of anything is just human nature...
More Twitter followers...
More Youtube Subscribers...
If you don't, then all you have to do is go around iHub and ask everyone to please unfollow you.
If you try to make the argument that you want only "organic"...un-ask for personmarks.....Prove it.
Besides...What value are they afterall?
Because there is no way to see the value of an "un-ask for" personmark anymore than one that you do ask for.
The topic of discussion here is: PERSONMARKS
Welcome to the "Personmark Discussion Forum"
The Personmark Discussion Forum is designed to discuss the pros and cons of the current system of personmarking other members.
Some basic questions:
Is the current system accurate?
What does a personmark represent to you?
Should the current system be scrapped and totally revamped?
How can the current system be improved?
Why do members desire to have more personmarks?
Is the current system OK like it is?
Or is the current system obsolete?
This is the place to discuss these and any other issues associated with personmarks.
Thank you
you mark-me a lot groupie clowns should also read the tou re "reposting a pm on a board"
i see several removed posts already :)
then they become vindictive gadflies hell-bent on retaliation and stalk to other boards to spew their hateful venom
i have banned many mark-me clowns from my bds for that very reason
evidently they are unable to read the ibox rules of my bds :)
Come on now quit being so cranky..life isn't that bad!!!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahah
i hope ihub admins shut down the egotist's mark-me bd asap
and cancels MM's altogether
ihub might have thot it was a good idea
but alas like everything else
people will find a way to manipulate them
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