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Sick to my stomach myself. This is unbelieveable.
:=) Gary Swancey
I am sick!!!! I cant imagine the cost of life here! I hope the bombers are in the air!!!
Another plane has crash in pittsburg. PA. Car bombs, Planes used as missles, The towers are the entrance to the financial community.
:=) Gary Swancey
This is War I grant you.
:=) Gary Swancey
Agreed ... Is is horrible ...
:=) Gary Swancey
NBC reportng two more planes missing. embassy in africa bombed.
I can;t reach anyone in Washington.
:=) Gary Swancey
Second Hijacked plane on its way to washington.
:=) Gary Swancey
IN light of recent events...
... it is clear how very petty and unimportant our personal differences may be. I retire this debate, extend to you my wishes for nothing but the best and pray emphatically for the countless lost lives and the endless list of families and loved ones devastated this morning.
There are more important things in life that this silly debate.
Peace and safety to all.
Scott.
A friend in fla just called he has a friend whom works in govt. don't no if it's true.
The secoond tower ihas just collapsed./ OMG!!!
:=) Gary Swancey
Talking now of foriegn monies is being moved out of the US dollar scenarios.
:=) Gary Swancey
Another explosion on Pentagon & possibly Capitol Hill .
:=) Gary Swancey
Are you sure? Where did you hear that?
:=) Gary Swancey
They are evacuating the Sears tower in Chicago.
:=) Gary Swancey
AGREED! I just heard Palasinine organization claiming responsibility.
I believe we are going to be at war with someone by the end of the day. This is an organized strategic attack to harm our economy. We are at a low 9600 with compitulation and mergers combining at this happens at the open.
No telling how many lifes have been lost in this vicious terrorist attack. This is heart wrenching.
:=) Gary Swancey
Yes lets bury the hackets and look at what is happening. Our economy is being attacked ... Perfect timing. We are in another Pearl Harbor.
:=) Gary Swancey
I hope we can all forget our differences and say a prayer for who knows how many people have been killed! One tower just fell!
They are saying third plane hit south tower and level the tower.
:=) Gary Swancey
One of the twin towetrs has collapsed. Whoever is attacking Wallstreet.
:=) Gary Swancey
Caapitol , treasury, pentagon etc. being evacuated. All NYC subways are closed. We could be at war by the end of the day and now there is a third exposion at the World trade center.
:=) Gary Swancey
Georgia: just wanted to know if there was some other offence that I was missing!
Mach
FAA has grounded all US flights
:=) Gary Swancey
Plane hits Pentagon, and explosion close to the white house. Organized terrorist act. Perfect timing.
:=) Gary Swancey
Bomb expodes at pentagon white house being evacuated!
NYSE is closed according to CNBC.
:=) Gary Swancey
rager, I agree and may laove balnket you and yours and keep you warm. (Mis-spellings have been my signature for years. Bardology)
:=) Gary Swancey
You guys picked the wrong guy, no skeletons in my closet. I am who I am and I do a lot for nothing. I get satisfaction for help the good guys and exposing the opportunist who try to capitalize on the good intentions of others.
Do I take heat. Absolutely form the opportunist. DO I care nope I expect in order to confirm they are ticked because I mess up their opportunist play.
Typically I get a few thank yous from the good guys and at the same time I get the opportunists and their cronies spinning.
No good deed goes unpunished.
Oh and the rest of your rethoric on that post was the possible outcome SHOULD legal action be made. My whole point is who wants to do a good deed and then have to pay all legal expenses to fight their innocence. You can;t sue the government to recoup whne you prove your defense. I paid $3000.00 in legal fees to go before the SEC and expose evil and prove myself innocence.
I have always and sjhall always be an advocate for the good guys.
:=) Gary Swancey
'Georgia Bard', I want at this time to truly wish you the very best, with all the hatred in this world we need to work together and get along.
peace be with you and a prayer for those that lost their lives this morning in the world trade center attack
Oh I see if I see good intentions misdirected I should be silent. Let the chips fall where they may regardless of possible legal risk.
You can spin what you want I am not like you and do nothing like you. Nothing.
I am also not here to win a popularity contest and never have. I say it just as I see it. PERIOD.
Spin I do not care this is not the first tiem I single handedly exposed a legal risk and the ones looking to capitalize got ticked.
Knock yourself out.
:=) Gary Swancey
I am a Contracted Independent Investor Relations. It is how I make a living being a target for the SEC. I can;t do anything but tell the truth. I do not send out emails and I do not run around touting.
Also that is not on the Studied Stocks site and will not be.
I remember se=itting in front of the SEC when I was blowing the whistle on several evil and they asked what compensation I was getting for Bardology (my first site profiling fundamental data on stocks) Heck I was even an CIIR for the stock I was blowing the whistle on. When I said Inothing the SEC attorney raised an eyebrow. I furnished everything and I mean everything. Trading records, telephone records, emails. and I even pulled every post made on the internet.
Nothing to suggst comoensation or anything. Heck a lot of them I did not even own. If you read Studied Stocks you will see I donot own the stocks at the time of profile but I researve the right to invest in the future.
I love this ... been through this numerous times.
Oh and since I am a CIIR I prefer to get restricted stock and knock off a lot of the cash. I am cheap.
LOL ... go for it rager this is nothing new to me. That is why understand and do what I do like I did here. The risk for the good guys was to great and they needed to understand there was a risk involved.
Spin it, twist it, do whatever you want ... I am ready and been preparing for this.
:=) Gary Swancey
Bard... This is only too sad...
Let's see... you work tirelessly all weekend long pushing your apparent superior knowledge of the SEC, the law and market maker manipulation and, along the way, you promote yourself, your web sites, take advantage of the opportunity to set up your own board on IHub on the same topic and put up pages on your sites offering for people to get involved via your own vehicle.
On the other hand... I registered a domain at my own expense, supplied a web server and bandwidth that I pay for and stepped away. I did nothing else other than offer to install a message board on the server if they wanted one. I had nothing else to do with this and asked nothing in return other than to say I would appreciate being acknowledged for hosting the site.
And I'm the opportunist. Oh, that is rich.
As for your site... if you sent one e-mail with a stock opinion to five people that is still one more e-mail to five more people than MarketBeasts has done.
And then you admit that you are being paid for advertising and claim it is not stock related. Please... who are you trying to kid here? It's really quite simple: You set up this site offering free stock advice which you expect to be good advise. You make the site free and collect e-mail addresses to mail your advice to. You put paying advertisement on the site, as well. The more traffic you get, the more you make from the clicks. That is profiting from stock advise. Period.
It was obvious from word one that you were not so altruistic and that you were here with a mission/motive other than the one you presented to the board. You worked way too hard for that not to be the case.
You made false claims about myself and the MarketBeasts and your touted your sites which do exactly what you accused me of doing -- which I was not.
Then where did those restricted shares of yours come from, too?
Bard -- you're a liar and your attacks on me with false accustations and slander clearly demonstate your total lack of character. I don't give a squat what you claim here... it is so painfully obvious what you are about it's laughable.
You don't have to like me and I could care less if you did. But I will take exception to your lies and slander and I will call you on your false motives, overinflated ego and your opporuntistic ways... In the end, DD shows that everything you accused me of doing is really just what you do. I do none of the things you claim and see see pure factual evidence that you do.
It's really that simple.
QED
To all, my last post here.
It is not over, to those that followed suit and joined in this amazing effort to come together and stand up for our rights.
I am of the belief that this was a good event in as much as we all felt the power of how quickly the power of the internet
came together to stop MMM, and though it could have been better worded the real point was we have had enough.
Sadly there are always thorns in the rose bush that prick out and say hey I want attention, well this was never about
any one entity but all of us together.
Wish all the best.
AAhhh finally something we agree on, I hate P&D'ers
but curious in your statement,
"Yep we make money from advertising and nothing stock related. I doubt I will make a dime. I am not expecting to make a dime."
oh really.... you have CBQI cash 150K restricted / DTGI 200K restricted...did these fall out of the sky or the road to hades
I am not charging anyone and only sent out one email I think to 5 people. LOL ... I donot charge anyone anything, I have not listed it on search engines either. It is totally free, all the work I do on the profile is not compensated.
LOL ... I been chomping waiting on you guys. The internet evil is so predicable.
You posted the chance of legal risk. I posted it first but you are spinning now. Kudos turns to bricks by the evil. The WSj did an article on me and fully uinderstamds the evil always shows themselves attacking personally anyone that dares to hold the line and show where a danger may be.
Why don;t you guys do it?
Yeah Spiel you are the bad guy in my opinion. And thus as I told others last night giving me KUDOS I told them to weait the evil has not hit yet to punish me for warning people of possible legal risk. Also this evil will stop (not Patsy, bb, toshac)and throw up their hands knowing I have been an advocate so I would do something to get the comments. My punishment is just beginning by the evil of the intenret.
Been through too many times.
:=) Gary Swancey
Hey Rager I been waiting very patiently on you and spiel ... everytime I expose a website I go through this. Been happening for years. Hey some have even made it to court and they lost. I am in scam dogs and momo mamas for taking on the P&D websites. Now to your concerns.
Now we can all go to you web site where you not only are building an email list, promote stocks....But advertise everything from toilet paper to cell phones
Yep we make money from advertising and nothing stock related. I doubt I will make a dime. I am not expecting to make a dime.
And of course in your discourse deride everyones effort to come together and make changes. and then say go ahead you wont say nothing?
Nope not if you and spiel and your cronies fdo it. Heck no not one word. At least now people that sign will do so knowing there is a chance it is over the line. But no one will know until you do .... I just did not want Patsy, bb, Toshac and some of my friends that signed it to continue it until they at least look at the legal risk they were taking.
Is this all been about your dislike of spiel and his cronies?
which I might add have never had the ulterior motives that you claim, can you say the same?
My dislike you spiel and cronies was trying to capitalize on the petition. That ticked me off. I tied up with you guys on that ridiculous stock awarding crock you came up with.
You do not like I am trying to get comments which is my mission out of all of this and protect some people I happen to like that went into a IQ laspe and signed that petition. I really do not care.
I would suggest you guys that are the opportunist just take up the banner and do it. Wish you luck.. (not really)
:=) Gary Swancey
Yep, remember this?
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=179754
RunninAmuck
You know... it's almost funny at this point...
MarketBeasts.com has never sent an e-mail to anyone offering any opinion on a stock or anything else. We do not tout stocks either. There's not a single advertisement on the site and we charge nothing for someone to be a member. We haven't even listed ourselves on search engines or banner swaps.
Then along comes Bard who doesn't like me because he thinks I'm a tout and outright accuses me of collecting e-mail addresses to spam and come to find out he runs a site plastered in advertisement (which he is no doubt paid for) that collects e-mail addresses to send stock alerts on "quality companies" to.
And I'm the bad guy.
Lord, I don't know if I should laugh or cry.
Well finally the truth comes out, right Georgia Bard? You blasted every element of what was being done here, including calling the
kind folks that started this movement "ring leaders"
You laughed at the petition and the way in which it was constructed, you put fear in those that signed the petition by stating
they are forming a cartel (in which you alluded to the mafia)
You then right off a second legal opinion as “nothing but rhetoric”
completely ignoring the fact that your biggest claim was shot down.
You boast how most would not honor the petition. By the way....
“There’s no way the SEC would expend its resources trying to find a couple dozen people among thousands involved. It would just plain be too expensive with too little return.”
but in the end the truth comes out
Now we can all go to you web site where you not only are building an email list, promote stocks....But advertise everything from toilet paper to cell phones.
And of course in your discourse deride everyones effort to come together and make changes. and then say go ahead you wont say nothing?
Is this all been about your dislike of spiel and his cronies?
which I might add have never had the ulterior motives that you claim, can you say the same?
Dont bother with a reply to me for I am done with you.
(this is in my opinion only)
Then do it taxan. You spiel, anyone else who wants to do ... Quit screaming about, just go for it. Again I wont say a word.
Beside after the 18th the ECN comment will be over and comments to be reviewed will be in.
Then only the Manning Rule and decimalization will be the comment. Hoppefully others will still comment on shorting since even this morning the European market is trying to curve shorting today.
Shorting is out of control and the SEC needs to see that though the comment is over and has been for some time people are still raising sands.
But you guys go ahead and head up the movement and then submit it and implement it. Knock yourself out.
:=) Gary Swancey
Look I stated legal comment. SPiel (who I do not like)stated legal comment. Why don't you step to the plate and do a boycott. Hey, I will leave you alone completely.
I do not like Spiel and his scenario, But I do like Patsy bb, and toshac and especially some of the petitioners. I do not think they thought it out very well.
Thus "No good deed goes unpunished."
Better yet why don't you and Spiel and his cronies start one. Not capitalize off of someone else's effort who will be the target should it be over the line with the SEC.
Go for it. Again, I won't say a word.
:=) Gary Swancey
Georgia: the risk would be in if someone was to trade on boycotted days after stating they would not! If these people are signing this and sticking to the boycott than WHAT is the legal issue you keep trying to scare everyone with???
Lets still go on with a boycott/one wek a month for the next 2 months!!!!Guarantee it will get the mm's attention!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree bb ... the risk was too great and it is a shame that those with such noble intentions and admirable efforts have decided to abandon the focus. That saddens me because in order to get OTCBB refrom people must voice their concerns.
I have created a neutral webpage on my site for people to go to and easily respond to the SEC. http://www.studiedstocks.com/sec_comments.htm
There is no monitoring of IPs, no tracking, no accumulation of data, no registration, no request for anything, no email tracking or request, no nothing. No way to link to the home page or the site. Only typing in the url will anyone being able to go to the main site if they want to. However, there are four seperate issues that do affect the OTCBB and I have them there.
1. Short Selling
2. Request for Comment on the Effects of Decimal Trading in Subpennies
3. ECN & ATS for OTCBB
4. Manning Rule
I do not care how the people realize they must respond to the comment process of the SEC in order to affectively get any vote or consideration in leveling the playing field. I just hope people can get it done.
I created this solely because the honorable people behind this have thrown up their hands. I know the feeling but I press on ... We need people to send in their comments. That is the bottomline.
:=) Gary Swancey
re:"can't we all just get along!"...
The only way "WE" can get along is to maintain individual independence...
"WE" becoming a single voice is almost always asking for trouble...
It's called "RIOT"... enough said... :o)
Best'o'Luck to You and ALL(always and all ways)
George
I appreciate everything that all involved here achieved. And yes, we did achieve a lot. Before the petition was taken down, there were over 3000 signatures, and the # was consistenly growing by 700/800 signatures/day. An amazing statement IMO, even without it going through to fruition. The plug on this wouldn't have bene pulled, if the risk weren't so extreme. It simply isn't worth the risk. If we had simply focused on the changes in the rules/regulations rather than the boycott, things would have worked out differently, but Shac as the owner of the petition has bene bombarded terribly by E-mail, to the point where he just wants nothing to do with it anymore. And I honestly, do not blame him. This is the kind of thing that will quickly make you think twice before you even make a post anymore. As Patsy posted with her last post here, it is a shame that the innocent have to suffer the same consequences as the true criminal, but unfortunately, the laws in our country, don't always protect the ones it should.
Just my 2 cents before I go to bed. I am so tired!
Let's continue to be a positive force. Must has been said over the past few days, and some of it has been not so good, and I would rather us try and attack this together and united as one, rather than continuing to drudge up the problems from the past, i.e. pet peeves with each other.
Have a good evening all, and as Rodney King once stated, can't we all just get along!
Second, he fully agrees that to sign the petition and subsequently trade was a huge legal risk. However, unless the petition was actually submitted into the record, it was meaningless.
That is exactly what I was told by my legal counsel. The rest of the long post is just rhetoric ... I would have stated the risk all the way till the 23rd where I would have really gotten persistent. Once submit and implemented there would be no turning back.
:=) Gary Swancey
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