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Hey … fyi to check out YCRM before she blows. Yeah it’s off topic, but I appreciate all the years of your solid DD on the N board :)
RE: the "expert market"
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The small trades are usually being done by the market maker just to keep it alive or else will be removed as a worthless stock.
Not sure, but traded 25 shares with their privileged access on the "expert market"
Which brokerages trade Lehlq? Thanks!
No ... It still trades in Canada. So... the answere should be it trades in the US. IMO
LEHNQ board is most active...
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172490255
Is this stock finally toast now?
Hi Camaro. Looks like a possible path. If infact That the trustee failed to file the trust's claim. Thats is a major fault/ or Fraud. if proven. Who knows maybe You should have been paid 1st. If so The next arguement will be
"Clawbacks". IMO.
ACCORDING TO THE MY KNOWLEDGE:
BANKRUPTCY CAN BE CLOSED ONCE ALL CREDITORS ARE SATISFIED BECAUSE THERE IS NO LONGER NEEDS FOR A PROTECTION AGAINST CREDITORS.
THATS WHAT BANKRUPTCY IS ALL ABOUT.
A PROTECTION AGAINST CREDITORS IF THE COMPANY IS IN DEFAULT. ( can no longer pay its debt)
CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG
ACCORDING TO THE PLAN. (Not according to me, not according to Swiss, not according to cotton)
6.6 Closing of Chapter 11 Case. After the Chapter 11 Case of a Debtor has been fully administered, the Plan Administrator shall seek authority from the Bankruptcy Court to close such Debtor’s Chapter 11 Case in accordance with the Bankruptcy Code and the Bankruptcy Rules
https://www.rns-pdf.londonstockexchange.com/rns/6391X_1-2022-8-30.pdf
WTF, LBHI YOU issued the subordinated notes to LP IV and LP V. You need to pay up LBHI!!! and... I want interest too for your shady accounting.
How do you issue something, but NOT have any responsibility to what you issued.
ACCOUNTABILITY is required here!!!
Claims by LP IV and LP V against LBHI
4.30 It was LBHI and not LBH that issued subordinated notes to LP IV and LP V in return for
the payment of the regulatory capital that was raised by the issuance of the Securities
by LP IV and LP V. The LP IV and LP V Partnerships may have a claim for payment of
a dividend by LBHI in relation to the subordinated notes that were issued. This is a
matter that the Joint Liquidators are continuing to keep under review. However, it is the
Joint Liquidators’ understanding that LBHI’s subordinated debt holders are currently
not expected to receive any distribution. The Joint Liquidators therefore understand that
the prospects of any recovery from LBHI in relation to these claims are very low.
Any new updates on these?
I have some in the POS pile collecting dust.
Any info appreciated
An excerpt from a document at “fdic.gov”
IM FULLY LOADED FOLKS!!!!!
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Excerpt:
At the end of the deferral period, then, the TruPS investors would be left holding a deeply subordinated note of the BHC, which would be likely to absorb substantial loss in the event of the BHC’s failure.
1. As noted, however, all cumulative dividend arrearages must be paid in full if the BHC is to continue to operate as a going concern.
2. As noted, however, all cumulative dividend arrearages must be paid in full if the BHC is to continue to operate as a going concern.
3. As noted, however, all cumulative dividend arrearages must be paid in full if the BHC is to continue to operate as a going concern.
Repeated to make Joe more jealous.. lol!
https://sec.report/Document/0001104659-07-037211/
These series 7 are called MCAPS and have FV of $1000....so the 6.2 million shares = a whopping $6.2 BILLION!!!!
Not sure how MCAPS (a capital trust) compare with CTs and ECAPS...should be in similar status.
Interesting indeed.
IMO GLTA
Or how about paying classes not we’re not guaranteed payment ahead of sub debt?
"Trust Preferred Securities - Trust preferreds represent most of the new preferred security offerings being issued recently. The trust preferred is a hybrid security consisting of a preferred stock issued by a special trust and a debt security issued by the company. The special trust is a subsidiary of the company set up solely for the purpose of selling and administering the trust preferred securities."
I hope you got the Drift as to where I am going... By Law, LBHI has to either re-instate our dividends and in conjunction letting us trade again 'at par' on the 'Big Board/NSDQ' OR Issue us NEW Equity 'In Lieu' of our CT preferreds, in the same 'exchange ratio' they are affording the Senior Debt 'in order to retain us as 51% (AKA 'Old & Cold' Equity)' in the NEW Lehman Equity Capital Structure, so that they will be "IRS Legally Compliant" to use the $60B+ NOLs as NEW Lehman...So, hold on Tightly to them CTs!.
We (meaning the "Trust Company' issuing the CTs, for each of the CTs) are a "Subsidiary" of LBHI & in September of 2008 ONLY LBHI & a few of the Subsidiaries Filed Bankruptcy, NOt all Subsidiaries filed for BK and CT trust Subsidiaries didn't either - this was 'By Design', so that the 'recoveries/income streams' of the Trusts/CTs, could be 're-directed' to the Sr. Debt-holders invoking our 'Sub-ordination' clause... OK, we Put up with that BUT bu that Action, LBHI essentially accepted that we (CTs) are NOT Bankrupt... So, Mr LBHI, now the time has come to 'Pay the (CT) Piper', once LBHI 'closes/exits' BK...
The question is do they have a subordinated guarantee? If they do, it is protected by Bankruptcy Code 510(a).
Don’t believe it’s too late
Email Rex
Is it too late to join the class action suit? Thanks
Share Count As of July 20th 2021
LBHI Capital Trusts III - 37 participants
LBHI Capital Trusts IV - 44 participants
LBHI Capital Trusts V - 44 participants
LBHI Capital Trusts VI - 46 participants
Class Action Lawsuit Against the BNYM, as Trustee
They are looking for shareholders who are interested in joining a class action lawsuit against the BNYM, as Trustee, for breaching their fiduciary duty to require Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. to file the subordinated guarantee certificates annually. It is the responsibility of the Trustee each year to make sure the certificates are filed.
Quote:
Lehman Brothers Holdings, as guarantor, will be required to file annually with the guarantee trustee a certificate as to whether or not Lehman Brothers Holdings is in compliance with all the conditions and covenants applicable to it under the guarantee.
The failure to file the certificates allowed LBHI to ignore their obligations under the subordinated guarantee resulting in a combined loss to shareholders up to $1.2 billion dollars.
If you are a shareholder and you feel that you are harmed by the BNYM, as the trustee, for their failure to require the filings of the certificates, include the following information in an email and send it to
lbhict34566investorsunited@gmail.com
Information to be included on the email
Name
Address
Contact number
email
Number of shares
Date Acquired
They aren’t in trust anyway
Look at the next balancesheet shareholders in the last got no more than 10 percent in lamco or lbhi next
I took you and joe aff ignore to read your posts. And this is what i get.
Why did you huy this? Same premise, you made your money, "so you say".
Hrumppph... TBD.
I am making money now, always had noney, always will. This stock, Lehman was just a side play.
The numbers in real estate we flipped, in just months, frankly you wouldnt believe. Its just your nature. But thats ok. I will use the term millions, but one omer went for 1.4, in 2 days.
Anyway, whether this wins, looses, or draws. As long as its done.
Some friendly advice, I would try and work on thst snarky attitude. It really does t work among adults.
No hard feelings, may your ship come in.
Were killing it up here. Out of there park.
And to everyone else, all the very very best. May we meet in Vegas, in the winners circle.
Joe to, your invited, as my guest.
All the good and right and proper points that Waske and Wu bought up.
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What do you know what is right or wrong Jersey boy?? All you know is that cash is suppose to come to you by buying a “25 dollar face value stock” in cents from a “BANKRUPTED COMPANY”
And you think you deserve it... lol!
No access until September 21 just before the next distribution....interesting.
IMO GLTA
Hey Joe. You know what they would redact.
All the good and right and proper points that Waske and Wu bought up.
Both of them got railroaded by the court.
I was a fly on the wall that day.
The judges decision, was pre determined by her.nit was complicated, besides the fkn no a swer. It was full of case numvers, docket numbers etc. She rattled them right off.
How could she do that?
Because ahe knew her decision EVEN BEFORE hearing them.
Filed Jun 23 2020
Transcript regarding Hearing Held on 6/3/2020 at 10:01 AM RE: Motion to Reserve for Motion to Reclassify; Motion for Summary Judgment. Remote electronic access to the transcript is restricted until 9/21/2020. The transcript may be viewed at the Bankruptcy Court Clerks Office. [Transcription Service Agency: Veritext Legal Solutions.]. (See the Courts Website for contact information for the Transcription Service Agency.) (RE: related document(s) 60448). Notice of Intent to Request Redaction Deadline Due By 6/30/2020. Statement of Redaction Request Due By 7/14/2020. Redacted Transcript Submission Due By 7/24/2020. Transcript access will be restricted through 9/21/2020. (Ortiz, Carmen) (Entered: 06/30/2020)
Geeze, what would need to be redacted?
Joe K.
LEHLQ
I will take those extra ones, thank you.
Surprised how I am getting fills. Not much, but give me what you got.
BTW, whats with the squabbles today?
This lehman pref stock could easily go to 1.00, I am in for long run, now at .189, I hope they can get clean and establish a financial firm.
Did you read the prospectus? I dont think you did. Read it in its entirety and get back to me. Everything I say and my peoples DD started with the PERspectus. Then we DD and look at title 11 cases with CTs and research their prospectus and how they ended. We read case studies joey.
Do this as I dont want to be seen as stepping all over your ignorance of this bk, READ THE PROSPECTUS. Because if I go back and quoted it and explain it with numbers from case studies which you will have to DD too, then you will look mighty stupid AGAIN. Answer this,
DID JOESTOCKS READ THE PROSPECTUS OF THE LEHMAN CTs?
As of now, I can tell by the way you post the answer is no. Lots of things in title 11 dont make sense to you because you dont understand it or know it's there or how it works. So, what you think is irrelevant is funny to me. When you say it dont makes sense, it's funny to me. Why, because you failed at the basic DD. The law is relevant not your opinion or if it makes sense to you. Do yourself a favor and READ THE PROSPECTUS after 10 years of posting blindly and people smirking at you.
READ THE PROSPECTUS NO MORE FREE DD FOR YOU so
Thx to the one that snagged some of those. Cheers
Still dangling some Ls out there.
If anyone need a topper
Cheers
4 LEHMAN CTs. Lehlq, lehnq, lehkq, lhhmq.
One reason of the increase of distributable asset was the 1.4B JPM
Settlement.
FROM JUNE BALANCE SHEET
21.289B....Asset
209.840B..Liability
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-188.551B
192.389B...Subject to compromise
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3.838 ... Remining asset for disribitions
If I understand you correctly, I'd call that...well at the very least...very perceptive in hind sight.
Everyone was paying attention at first, especially the regulars we have all come to know here, and it was building rapidly. Does anyone here remember how active the Google stock boards were on all the banking chaos...then they deleted everything and purposely broke the interface so no one would want to use it. Most of us diehards ended up here. Most of the population ended up in FB distraction land.
No, I have tons of preferred to. Whether NOL "or" some other vehicle to paying us, I don't care how. Just get us paid.