InWith

[H8ster]

Good article about more science being put to use for smart contact lenses. They are a long ways out, but who knows. There are many, many companies clawing to get into this coming market. Some are further ahead than others.

In the future, your contacts lenses may do more than help you see clearly — they may help save your life.

Engineers at Oregon State University are working to embed transparent sensors into contact lenses, which could then monitor biomarkers to track drug use, blood glucose levels, or even detect early signs of cancer.

Oregon State

[H8ster]

You mean the lens shot I put up next to J&J's. I simply did an image search and snagged one. Lol. If you want me to put up another one, send me a link.

[AJCash]

Image of Lens taken from the " Fire Upon the deep "
http://thisrecording.com/today/2011/12/29/in-which-we-stoke-the-fire-upon-the-deep.html
What a total scam

[franck92]

In the same time they tested their technology on rabbits, it seems to be a success so it seems possible. But it is curious that they have not tested this with the best current contact lenses that are made with silicone hydrogel. Maybe soon they will.

[H8ster]

Nah. Its a company that really doesn’t have a shot.

Their lens does not yet meet the standard required for current commercialization.

Their lens is made of silicone rubber (elastofilcon A) which is not ideal for hydration and oxygenation on the human eye and the structure of the designed substrate presents clarity issues and as constructed, so basically, it can never work within silicone hydrogel

That’s all they got. I really don’t see them moving forward in any time frame that would allow them to have any success.

[franck92]

Maybe we should add the Ulsan National Institute of Science and Technology in South Korea who have prototyped and tested their device on rabbits - and reported that it causes no adverse reactions.

https://www.sciencealert.com/smart-flexible-contact-lens-monitors-glucose-real-time-diabetes

[H8ster]

Remember Sony's widely reported patent app for it's smart lens?
Sony Smart Lens

It got denied as well. Got its Final rejection notice last december, yet they are still trying.
As long as the USPTO can make money on appeals and and reexamination, anybody can keep trying.

USPTO Sony Final Rejection
Application number 14/785,249

[Stock_Barber]

I respect that!

[Stock_Barber]

I assume so... but I have to read the wrapper!

[franck92]

That is why I wondered in my post if they could continue in spite of the final rejection. But it was in 2016. did they continue the process knowing that epgl has prior art, priority date?.

[Stock_Barber]

"Final rejection is final rejection "

A Final Rejection means anything but final!

It pretty much mean "Final Free Rejection"...

I have had MANY Final Rejections that turned into patents...

I haven't read the rejection but I will if there is time!

"“Final” is a misnomer, however, because a final rejection does not mean that prosecution of the patent application is over."

Read this, for example:

https://ptslaw.com/2016/04/a-final-rejection-is-not-the-end/

[franck92]

Final rejection is final rejection lol.
could Samsung solve their rejection ?. Seems too late.
Once thing seems sure, they are not ahead in this field. good job for Inwith.

[H8ster]

A look at Samsung's Smart contact lens patent app from 2016. In february, it received it's FINAL REJECTION from the USPTO. Will they keep pressing?

SMART CONTACT LENSES FOR AUGMENTED REALITY AND METHODS OF MANUFACTURING AND OPERATING THE SAME
Samsung Patent

[franck92]

well, well, in fact I am not against this idea and I am aware of the race and of the multiple future applications but it is frustrating to see the developments and partnerships of the competitors.
I am so curious and impatient to see the next developments and partnerships of Inwith thanks to their breaking technology.
Go InWith.

[H8ster]

This board is about the technology and industry that EPGL Med currently resides in. Wether or not somebody believes the company is real or if ithe company that is absorbing it will become operational once it leaves the public markets is irrelevant to the mission of this board. That type of discussion is for the company's main ihub board. If the company whom is absorbing EPGL fails to materialize, then the company will not be featured on this board. For now, there is no evidence that it won't materialize. Only evidence saying it will.

EPGL MED

[Koog]

It was only dealing with that one company because thats what the posters were more focused on and they weren't posting on anything else, so i updated the page to make it more inviting to discuss all the major players.

That's a very good idea because "InWith" (the private not-yet-real company which is purportedly to become the reincarnation of EPGL, the penny stock) may never really become real. I've figured this since the "free" shares were announced.

[H8ster]

Elastic Circuit patent and all if it's art.
ELASTIC CIRCUIT PATENT W/ART

We are now starting to see all sorts of companies coming up with applications for smart contact lenses. The amount of applications will end up being endless. To get the applications into the circuitry, the circuitry has to survive the manufacturing process that all silicon hydrogels must go through. So far, EPGL has the only technology to do so with the elastic circuit patent. not to mention all of their other intellectual property.

There is good reason that EPGL is mentioned among the main, yet small group of smart lens innovators.

[H8ster]

Its the way its always been. And thats whats been on the title page since day one. It just wast in big bold letters like it is now. It was only dealing with that one company because thats what the posters were more focused on and they weren't posting on anything else, so i updated the page to make it more inviting to discuss all the major players.

[H8ster]

This is a big race with a ton of players. We are going to start seeing all sorts of ideas emerging. There are really an endless amount of applications that be used in smart lenses. But for now, they are just ideas all in development. Its no wonder that this is going to be a multi billion dollar industry in the future.

Right now, EPGL is a leader in technology that powers the lens as well as technology that allows circuitry to effectively and safely be mass manufactured into hydro silicon contact lenses.

[franck92]

I am glad to see that the iot is working for some companies but they are competitors of epgl/inwith; I prefer to see the progress of inwith.
JNJ has had a partnership with Transitions Optical company ; how about epgl/inwith. curious to know more.

[franck92]

"This board is a discussion board about companies that are working to put BioMem technology into the human body within the next few years. Currently, the main focus is on SMART CONTACT LENSES."

so it is not anymore a board concerning only Inwith ; it is more general ; why this change now.

[Stock_Barber]

The prototype that they made and plastered the picture everywhere is not of the elastic circuit...

It is a simple well-known stretch circuit pattern!

They even state that it is just an example of the flexible substrate embedded in the lens. Nowhere do they claim that it is their "elastic circuit".

See the difference in the pattern?

Basic stretch circuit:


Elastic circuit patent:


Prototype:

[H8ster]

The technology outlined in the patent has been proven to work in a lab. That their elastic circuit can safely and effectively go through the manufacturing process of silicon hydrogel lenses. They are now working on a prototype lens with specific technology within an elastic circuit, designed to perform a specific task for another company. While the circuit itself will work, they need to make sure the technology that the circuit is carrying for the company they are building it for, works as well.

[Atlanta1]

proven to work in a lab or in a commercial application?

[H8ster]

IOT Launches inMotion Daily Driving Lens

IOT has introduced inMotion, a daily driving lens that minimizes night myopia. inMotion provides wearers extended areas of peripheral, intermediate, and distance vision, making it easier to focus on the dashboard and road ahead, according to a company news release. inMotion is fully personalized utilizing IOT 's proprietary Digital Ray-Path technology.

“There are other progressive lenses on the market that are optimized for driving, but inMotion is unique in that it incorporates a special zone that compensates night myopia," Daniel Crespo, CEO and president of IOT, said in the news release.

InMotion

[H8ster]

Johnson and Johnson with an interesting development today.

acuvue oasys

Johnson & Johnson Vision Announces Revolutionary Contact Lens Innovation with ACUVUE OASYS® with Transitions® Light Intelligent Technology™
Developed in strategic partnership with Transitions Optical, this one-of-a-kind contact lens corrects vision and adapts to changing light conditions

[H8ster]

Yes. When they developed it with Coopervision. In the lab where they developed the technology. A long time ago.

[Stock_Barber]

"The elastic circuit technology has been proven to work."

Really? How? Where? When?

[H8ster]

EPGL is a start up company that is currently working on a prototype using their patented technology, which is real, with a major blue chip. The elastic circuit technology has been proven to work. Now they are working on the prototype of a smart lens, with circuitry that will have to perform a specific task, as outlined by the blue chip, embedded onto a lens successfully. Not just a 'blank' circuit that was proven to survive the manufacturing process.

[Stock_Barber]

" Elastic Circuit technology. "

The same technology that has never been prototyped and exists is theory only?

Good luck with that...

[H8ster]

Many companies working to put BioMems inside the human body. That company, EPGL, could partner with anyone of them to incorporate their leading smart lens technology into the partners product's. As time passes, more and more companies are looking for other companies to help them bring their smart technology to life.

So far, of the major players involved….EPGL Med, Google, Sensimed, Samsung, only EPGL has the technology that can get ANY technology safely manufactured onto a smart lens with it's Elastic Circuit technology.

For anybody invested in the above companies, I would recommend visiting those company boards. If you want to discuss the technology of this industry on a whole, then by all means stick around.

[franck92]

updates after the buyout and conversion because we should have some news and name of partner.

[franck92]

once again the website should be updated once the buyout and conversion are done, not before.

[Hank Kerchief]

You have to vote and pass the bill so that you can see what’s in the bill. Lol. They have been fumbling and bumbling and crumbling throughout this process. Website was supposed to be up March 15.

[franck92]

I guess they wait for the buyout and conversion are done, then they will give us updates and will show a website with informations.

[Hank Kerchief]

Just going by what Hayes tweeted back in the fall of 2017. Amazing how much the InWith website improved. I love the part of the website showing what member of wsgr talked so highly of InWith. It gives us all so much hope.

[jhnvtjll]

Go InWith!

Maybe because she forgot to wear a bra?

Why would there be a big bounce?

[H8ster]

Whenever. Why would there be a big bounce? The company won't be on the public markets.
Just glad I got to hear WSGR's opinion on the matter.

[Hank Kerchief]

Yes the prototype will be ready by the holiday season right? Big bounce in January right? .098 right? Buyout at .88 right? Maybe .25??? Right. Poo poo. IMO.

[franck92]

agree, once the new partnership will develop prototype of new smart contact lens the epgl inwith technology will be at the heart of all the attention of the big companies, Will the big companies be ready to buy at the prototype step or will they wait for an Ipo ?

[H8ster]

Google abandoned their plans for a smart contact lens because their technology was highly insufficient and simply never worked and will work. Their attempted partnership with EPGL went up in smoke because they were too stupid and Coopervision snagged them first, which resulted in EPGL retaining all rights to the tech after COO got greedy. Google then failed to come up with anything partnering with a company that is no wear close to being in the race. fact is, Google realizes that their money is better spent on other projects that they can succeed with. They will simply buy a company in the future that has been able to do what they couldn't and save themselves a ton of money and time in the process.

[H8ster]

Many people are very excited for EPGL's partnership with this major bluechip that will see the particular bluechip's passion put to work inside of a smart contact lens, manufactured using EPGL's groundbreaking technology.

[franck92]

GO EPGL-INWITH

[franck92]

??? lol, I talked about a prototype and a big partner, it is written in this article, that is all.

[Stock_Barber]

Clearly that is far different than what was written in the Indian article...

[franck92]

Lol do you prefer that ?
"EP Global Communications, Inc. (OTC: EPGL) In a first for EPGL since acquiring 100% of its ophthalmic IP portfolio, one of the world's leading multi-billion-dollar public companies, in a brand-new relationship for EPGL, has made EPGL technology and its patented Elastic Circuit technology as the choice for a closely guarded and proprietary development of a new contact lens prototype to undergo FDA testing as early as next year.
"

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/epgl-contact-lens-technology-chosen-for-development-by-first-major-public-company-otc-pink-epgl-2236992.htm

[Stock_Barber]

That article is written and published in India and has obvious flagrant errors in it...

Did any US "news" sites link to or quote that nonsense? Nope!

"the EP Global Communications (EPGL) which last year acquired 100% stake of ophthalmic IP portfolio"...

Does one really need to continue reading the article after reading that nonsense?

[franck92]

prototype this year with Inwith and big partner.

"Without disclosing the name of the public company, the EP Global Communications (EPGL) which last year acquired 100% stake of ophthalmic IP portfolio said that “one of the world's leading multi-billion-dollar public companies has made EPGL technology and its patented Elastic Circuit technology as the choice for a proprietary development of a new contact lens prototype to undergo FDA testing as early as next year.” "

https://techobserver.in/article/enterprise-it/new-prototype-based-on-epgl-contact-lens-technology-to-undergo-fda-testing-next-year

[Stock_Barber]

There will be 100's of patents on smart contact lenses by many many companies by the time they become a reality... IF they do become a reality...

[franck92]

did you see the priority data of every google patents about contact lenses ? it would be interesting to compare them with those of Epgl technology ?