Harley’s new LiveWire Del Mar electric motorcycles begin deliveries in US:
"I liked a business where customers tattoo_your_name on their chest," he continued. "But figuring out the economic value of that ... I'm not sure even going out and questioning those guys I'd learn much from them.""
"'I knew enough to lend them money'
Buffett struck a bunch of similar deals during the crisis. For example, he invested $5 billion in Goldman Sachs and $3 billion in General Electric in the fall of 2008.
"Credit remained virtually nonexistent," Alice Schroeder said about that period in "The Snowball: Warren Buffett and the Business of Life."
Schroeder added: "Buffett lent at interest rates that in some instances bordered on usurious."
The famed investor also displayed his ruthlessness when he refused Harley-Davidson's request to repay its loan early. Berkshire said it was happy with the agreed terms, the company told Fortune.
Buffett likely netted a solid $150 million in profit from the loan. Yet he could have raked in over $1 billion by investing $300 million in Harley-Davidson stock instead, as its shares more than quadrupled in value between 2009 and 2014.
A shareholder asked Buffett why he opted for debt instead of equity during Berkshire's annual meeting in 2010.
"I knew enough to lend them money; I didn't know enough to buy the equity," the investor replied.
"I kind of like a business where your customers tattoo your name on their chest," he continued. "But figuring out the economic value of that ... I'm not sure even going out and questioning those guys I'd learn much from them."
Buffett added that he made the loan because he felt confident at the time that "a) Harley-Davidson was not going out of business, and that b) 15% was going to look pretty damned attractive."
Buffett's little-known role in saving Harley Davidson
"Warren Buffett loaned about $300 million to Harley-Davidson during the financial crisis.
The motorcycle maker needed cash in the face of softer demand and liquidity drying up.
Buffett made about $150 million in five years, but could have raked in $1 billion owning the stock."
"The pair effectively loaned it a combined $600 million for five years at a hefty 15% annual interest rate."
"The high-interest loan was its only option to borrow money without giving up a stake in the company, he added".
Over 50% of Harley-Davidson’s electric revenue came from selling kids’ e-bikes, not motorcycles:
Harley-Davidson’s Serial 1 electric bicycles expand into Canada after rolling out in EU, US:
Harley’s "ELECTRIC" motorcycle goes public via $1.7 billion SPAC deal:
Harley-Davidson’s LiveWire to become first publicly traded electric motorcycle company:
Harley-Davidson’s "electric" bicycles roll out all over Europe in latest expansion:
Harley-Davidson is now building custom "electric" bicycles
I havent paid attention to this until the divy check arrived and its MUCH lower than usual, when did they cut the dividend?
BREAKING NEWS: $HOG Why Shares of Harley-Davidson Are Roaring Higher Today
Shares of Harley-Davidson (NYSE: HOG) jumped 20% on Tuesday morning after the motorcycle manufacturer reported third-quarter results that came in well ahead of expectations. There are some reasons for caution, but investors are focused on the positive after the strong release. ...
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NEWS: $HOG Harley-Davidson & Hero Motocorp Announce Agreements for India Market
DELHI, India, Oct. 27, 2020 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Embarking on a new journey together, Harley-Davidson, Inc. (“Harley-Davidson”), the legendary motorcycle manufacturer and Hero MotoCorp, the world’s largest maker of motorcycles and scooters in terms of unit volumes, today...
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BREAKING NEWS: $HOG Harley-Davidson Sharpens Focus and Reignites Culture; Delivers Best Third Quarter Net Income Since 2015
Harley-Davidson Sharpens Focus and Reignites Culture; Delivers Best Third Quarter Net Income Since 2015 PR Newswire MILWAUKEE, Oct. 27, 2020 MILWAUKEE , Oct. 27, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- Harley-Davidson, Inc. ("Harley-Davidson") (NYSE: HOG) today announced f...
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I think you'll see an uptick in share price, WGO beat the hell out of estimates, people want to see the open road, what better way then on a Harley.
Time will tell. GL
See there are some long term holders of HOG
Knowing the history of the company and stock,
can they reverse the trend of the last few years?
Stock had slid to about 60% of what it was 4 years ago, and that
HOG had issues before the crisis, now they really have some problems to
overcome short term.
.. I think they weather the storm but emerge quite a bit smaller, leaner and meaner?
How do they deal with traditional riders "aging out", ebikes competition,
So far havent been overly impressed with their new bikes, especially the ebike.
Thoughts on how they manage the next few years, and when the stock will take off again?
I originally bought this stock in the late 80's, when it went public.. It split 2 for 1, 5 times! After 9-11, like all of the other companies, not so much.. I am far more ahead with this company from my original purchase!! I will forever be a share holder, and rider!!! USA , and HOG!!!!!
So no basis to thinking its headed up further?
Toured the Milwaukee factory, was pretty impressed.
.. really liked watching bikes get put together,
but I seperate the bikes from the stock.
Harley, decent bike decent company
.. but right now Harley has a bunch of headwinds
and the stock wont do well for the next year or so
"I was born to ride."
I was born to ride.
Trouble in paradise.
The Harley-Davidson LiveWire is making the headlines yet again. After media outlets reported that the premium product meant to attract younger people to the brand failed to live up to the expectations, it is now victim of a false start.
The Motor Company confirmed in a press release published on Monday that production of the LiveWire has been halted. This isn't linked to the models underwhelming sales, but rather due to a glitch in the quality controls, resulting in what the company describes as a "non-standard condition".
Deliveries of the new model that were expected to begin in August have now been delayed until further notice.
bought 250 units today for dividend. if it goes up another 2 dollars tmorrow would be great.
News: $HOG Harley-Davidson Is Going Whole Hog on Electric Bicycles
If there was any doubt that Harley-Davidson (NYSE: HOG) was going all-in on an electrified future, the U.S. motorcycle leader just dispelled it by unveiling three prototype pedal-assist electric bicycles designed primarily for urban riders. As it prepares to officially launch its high-perfo...
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News: $HOG Harley-Davidson Announces Second Quarter 2019 Results
MILWAUKEE , July 23, 2019 /PRNewswire/ -- Harley-Davidson, Inc. (NYSE:HOG) today reported second quarter 2019 results. The company made progress towards its plan to build more riders through its More Roads to Harley-Davidson accelerated plan for growth and expects to substantial...
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15 days later (part way there)
15 days ago :
Re : Earnings impact ?.....I dunno : When do they report ?
Probably soon (if they've not done so already) and yes, could have quite an impact.
Doh - I just seen - They reported on the 18th - 3 days ago - and that that is the reason for their swift little drop.....
Target should still be the ruler-line (45-ish within a few months) imho
Any thoughts on earnings. Call vs put
Technical Take For Harley Davidson
Leading motorcycle manufacturer Harley Davidson (NYSE:HOG) has been steadily declining since March 16, 2017. At that time, HOG stock was trading above $63.00 a share. Today, HOG stock is trading at $52.16 a share which is roughly a 17.0 percent decline from its March top.
So where is the next level in HOG stock that looks attractive to get into this equity? Traders and investors should note that the $50.00 level look very solid for a bounce. This is a whole round number which is very appealing for traders. It is also a major retrace level from the highs and an area where most institutional traders and investors will support the motorcycle giant. So here is the trade, buy HOG at $50.00 and look for a first target around $55.00. Traders can place a stop loss below the $47.00 level using a weekly chart close.
Trump is dumping Epa regs your in the wrong cycle!!
May have gotten that yesterday after President Trump's mention of 5 HOGS on White House lawn that day... Stock soared over $2.00/share yesterday...