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I'll be very happy if the PPS increases as we near the NHS launch in early April. BUT DON'T EXPECT IT!
I am not trying to be negative, but in reality, if there hasn't been any type of hype of the upcoming NHS, we're all just hoping for a miracle.
We need a highly energized PR campaign, that is just not possible IMO, because we don't have a highly energized team in place yet.
If it was up to me, I would have already been working on this PR campaign since January 5th (the day after the announcement). You can all bet the house that there will be a very high energy media tour showing off the product, the Dr's on our staff that can explain how it works as well as the real patients who found this product as amazing as we all know it is. BECAUSE IT WORKS!
That would have been more than enough time to organize a media tour. Have everything already in place to do LIVE REMOTE interviews (from a Baltimore TV studio).
MANCHESTER, LONDON, OTHER LARGE UK CITIES, and be super upbeat about how incredible this news really is. High Energy is what captivates the audience and rightfully so. WHY?
Because this technology works. It actually HEALS PAIN AT THE CELLULAR LEVEL. I would have had several before and after pics of swollen ankles and swollen knees. I would have before and after pics of road rash injuries, deep cuts and if possible, the people who were actually injured in this pics to have them speak in their own words to how amazing this technology really is. NOW WE'RE ADDING PERSONAL HUMAN INTEREST TO THE STORY.
I have been asking for weeks if we have any push going into this launch, and nobody really seems to know? That's why I continue to refer to this launch as EXTREME LOW ENERGY!
I will be the first to admit I am wrong if this takes off like we all hope it will. But I will really be amazed. The company should have been letting us all know about the upcoming buzz all over the UK. This technology will change the way people deal and heal pain and other injuries. Unfortunately at the pace we have been moving, we'll just here more excuses about what they had wished they had done differently.
Sometimes in business, especially with a game changing technology like this that has never been seen before, its all about a highly energized campaign can be the catalyst that changes the company once and for all.
WE ARE LACKING HIGH ENERGY imo!
This is not a negative post - it's just reality.
Management need to step it up big time.
Well done Pash !!!!
It never, ever hurts to try.....ActiPatch, Tsunami....now!
Thanks for being a Biel supporter. Let the good times Roll On Team Biel
I've also stayed proactive by reaching out to a Gizmodo Health writer and NPR's Biotech Nation to introduce the technology as an amazed user (which I am)... Moira Gunn replied that one of her producers was already using the Actipatch so I put her in touch with Sree Koneru at BIEL :)
Not sure how many listener/reader leads turn in to content but it doesn't hurt to try...
I have to command many of the posters on this board for providing the due diligence that kept my hopes alive as an investor since 2009.
It's been a long journey but it seems we are finally on the verge of mass retail adoption... This technology saves lives and money - It will be a HIT!
We, the retail investors, had to keep this company afloat for many years and we are about to be rewarded for our patience and our faith.
Cheers to you! Cheers to us!
Thanks mt, makes sense that anything with head (migraines) be separated from full body clearance. I like the idea of adding more clearances separately as to continue the progression of good news. That is what the 'market' likes, the continuance of progress with new products. And IMO this company is prime for just that with so many uses for their PEMF products. The 'head' should be watched carefully and scrutinized extensively for obvious reasons, as that is the control tower for all electrical (nerve) service to the rest of the body. But just think of the immense news it would be if this science could be beneficial for so many aging physiological problems stemming from the brain. A form of electrical 'shock' in a subtle way!
Hello All GGG's: A couple of years ago and sooner I asked for some Business cards from a desk or Office in Maryland! so when I showed the 2 or 3 patches on my back I could back it up with a business card as to what we had!
(So cal or Gramps wear a couple as I remember) (first time I talked to a live person at Bio... they Knew me well! The answer was Mr Paul you need to get a hold of so and so ??????? Wrong !!
I sent $$$$ many times and USPO came back!! It was only for a professional business card from them so I could pass it on...
And stated I would pay huge to pass cards to Pro Athletes. ( ex and current 49ers and sf giants I KNOW!!! I had Corporate cards for years and I was not trying to state Our patch was mine... solo by any means ..
I know Now!! whatever... from the Operation desk i CANNOT SEND MONEY TO HELP US!!! (imo) because I did not think I could have them made up to pass around.... 4 of our GGG members asked me Paul do YOU want your name on these? What kind of answer is that! Oh my NO! i JUST GAVE AWAY MY LAST PATCH IN THE ENVELOPE SOME OF US GOT MONTHS AGO, REMEMBER! Please help me the few of you guys that we Instant message with ..What can I do now? I have sent several to an Orlando address I have for an Eldrick Tont Woods, (Gate guards) I really ! He never saw anything!!!! I
Hello All GGG's: A couple of years ago and sooner I asked for some Business cards from a desk or Office in Maryland! so when I showed the 2 or 3 patches on my back I could back it up with a business card as to what we had!
(So cal or Gramps wear a couple as I remember) (first time I talked to a live person at Bio... they Knew me well! The answer was Mr Paul you need to get a hold of so and so ??????? Wrong !!
I sent $$$$ many times and USPO came back!! It was only for a professional business card from them so I could pass it on...
And stated I would pay huge to pass cards to Pro Athletes. ( ex and current 49ers and sf giants I KNOW!!! I had Corporate cards for years and I was not trying to state Our patch was mine... solo by any means ..
I know Now!! whatever... from the Operation desk i CANNOT SEND MONEY TO HELP US!!! (imo) because I did not think I could have them made up to pass around.... 4 of our GGG members asked me Paul do YOU want your name on these? What kind of answer is that! Oh my NO! i JUST GAVE AWAY MY LAST PATCH IN THE ENVELOPE SOME OF US GOT MONTHS AGO, REMEMBER! Please help me the few of you guys that we Instant message with ..What can I do now? I have sent several to an Orlando address I have for an Eldrick Tont Woods, (Gate guards) I really ! He never saw anything!!!! I
When do you ask, I would say 2 meetings and a fax for body clearance minus the migraine.
Trust this helps..
>>>The back study will not go in as a new submission, it is included in the knee and ankle submission so this will happen quicker than most would believe. Well actually the back study will be added to the prior submission, I don't want to confuse you.<<<
That makes sense to me and should result in a much faster clearance. The question then is: When they are ready to clear the back, with knee and foot already cleared, will they give the coveted and talked about "full clearance" and NOT JUST back? Now that would be HUGE!
what ever happened to young Mr Staelin?
It does help a lot - thanks very much MT
Hi Simpsonly
The only person that may know this info is-Erin Sanders! Erin is the International Sales Manager for Actipatch. Between Keith and Erin, there is no limit how high sales will reach. I don't believe that Erin will stop and say much in the middle of the race, she is a winner!
Keep in mind partners are happening and licensed ones at that.
The back study will not go in as a new submission, it is included in the knee and ankle submission so this will happen quicker than most would believe. Well actually the back study will be added to the prior submission, I don't want to confuse you.
Trust this helps.
Hey MT.....any inkling in how Mundi and/or EvoMed are doing on sales in Australia? I vividly recall how sales went ballistic after a few minutes slot in Dr. OZ show here in the U.S. even before FDA OTC clearance.
There was another ActiPatch piece about a month - 6 weeks ago on 9NEWS TV in Australia, a major network. With Australians being very active, plus the 9NEWS piece, I will be amazed if sales have not taken off beyond all expectations......can you help?
Cheers
Totally with you on that issue mtoronto. Between Co-Branding and Licensing there are dozens of deals to be made.
I have been a fan of 'Pain Gear' since I first heard of it some 6 months ago. PharmEvo is promoting their branded product the right way with a symposium to introduce it to doctors, a clinical trial and video commercials.
Hi Srin
Watch how huge the Co-Branding gets. How many names besides Pain Gear?
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Talk soon
Biel is Recognized and is in Great Company
This is the third Bioelectric Medicine Market Report this month that has listed BIEL as Trending or Top Competitor. Do you think that these professional researchers know a few things that you and I don't??
Top Competitors:
Medtronic,
Abbott,
Boston Scientific Corporation,
Cochlear Ltd.,
Livanova PLC,
Sonova,
BIOTRONIK SE & Co. KG,
Nevro Corp.,
SECOND SIGHT,
electroCore LLC,
Synapse electroceutical Ltd.,
BioElectronics Corporation,
SetPoint Medical, Inc.,
Bright Medical Ltd,
GlaxoSmithKline Plc,
EnteroMedics Inc.,
Alphabet Inc.,
The Medicines Company,
FRV ELECTROCEUTICALS
Valencia Technologies Corporation
https://thefinancialconsulting.com/electroceuticals-and-bioelectric-medicine-market-global-research-key-players-industry-overview-supply-chain-and-forecast-2024/199579/
Great Post. Can you venture a guess on what percent penetration Actipatch will get with the NHS? I agree with everything you said. I believe the market is going to get shocked by this stock.
Thanks Mtoronto,'The Handwriting is on Wall'
So many good things happening at once the crew in Frederick must be going Bonkers trying to keep up with it all.
Thank you for sharing some of the details.
That is terrific news and I hope it all materializes...
Hopefully no more need to create new shares and dilute. It would be a tremendous show of good faith to BIEL shareholders to surrender the final Billion authorized shares that have not yet reached the market. Cap it at 19B and the PPS may just go straight to Mars and bypass the Moon.
Cheers
Hi Srin
Trust you are well.
Increasing shareholder value=7 components of shareholder value.
• Revenue
• Operating Margin
• Cash Tax Rate
• Incremental Capital Expenditure
• Investment in Working Capital
• Cost of Capital
• Competitive Advantage Period
Within the next 120 days BIEL will have in place-
Full body clearance minus the Migraine, anticipated clearance at a later date based upon the fact that this is a preventative study and the patients must have signs of a migraine coming, this study is a little more complicated.
Licensed partners (Major)
Equity partners
At least 2 huge retail chains
Let’s add on a few more distributors. Why not? Lol
NHS-first week of April, keep in mind not the only week, this is lifetime!
There will be other EU States that will duplicate the NHS and this will be coupled with licenses being sold to partners. What price, how much in royalties will soon be determined.
The August financials will and should be the strength of evidence that a certain person has established a supply chain that will be second to none.
Talk soon.
Heart warming comment that illustrates the life changing effects of ActiPatch.
Lucas says:
2/23/2018
I'm in Australia and while picking up my prescription for 4x 80mg OxyContin a day....
https://fedupwithfatigue.com/actipatch-review/
Remember to print this post - Biel share price to be at or above 34cents/share by Xmas 2018!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted from the BIEL Board (not to my credit):
BIEL
Primary Product — ActiPatch
USPTO Patents - check
Up to date - check
FDA - partially OTC cleared foot and knee - check
FDA - working with company on back clearance - check
Trial supporting back clearance - finished - check
FDA asked for back data pre-submission meet - check
FDA relationship quality - fine
Signed deals with large U.S. distributors - check, do DD
Ongoing discussions with large U.S. retailers - check, do DD
ActiPatch OTC cleared 50+ countries - check
UK NHS Tariff approved for reimbursement - check
NHS support - trial data, efficacy, safety, price
NHS motives - public safety, efficacy, savings £100’s millions annually
Launch - Publicly announced April 1, 2018 Post-launch ramp-up, 90 days
NHS coverage - 100% insured patients with Rx
Estimated price on NHS Rx launch - $ .009 to $ .02
Estimated price on FDA OTC Back clearance - $ .04 to $ .06
Estimated price on FDA OTC General clearance - $ .075 to $ .09
Estimated price on U.S. retail (CVS, Walgreens) launch - $ .11 to $ .15
Is most of this factual? You bet
Is some of it speculative? You bet
p.s. ActiPatch is the only miniaturized, USPTO patented, drug-free, side-effect free, safe and efficacious (FDA says so), partially FDA OTC cleared, pain management device in the world and it works well. Fact
Frankly, with the stock market closed this coming Monday for Holiday, I was anticipating large "BUY" volumes today. People, what don't you understand about this stock? The waiting is over for those who were anticipating negative SEC news. My gosh, what do you want? Certainly, you'll always be able to buy in later. Right now, you're on the ground floor and with all this information you have, you are sitting pretty to buy at this level. This won't last for long. I repeat...THIS WON'T LAST FOR LONG.
I can't say it any simpler than that!
22837 on medical devices
Over 71,000 posts by the Wisdom Triumvirate wanting nothing more than to lower the price so as to buy shares lower .......common sense has no place here at the moment. Go BIEL
And they sure don’t like it when you call them on it a few times, trying to manipulate the medical devices space....
Biel 2580 By the content of that post, you’re busted dude! - gone
Biel 2582 Sure you are.....too funny Go BIEL- gone
Biel 2583. Of course you will, busted.......too funny- gone
Biel 2585 Don’t bother Erbb - complete nonsense......he’s busted! - gone
Biel 2587 Blatchford - they don’t care about knowledge or potential, comprehension or DD, they simply want to pound the stock, by, talk about adoring the company and grabbing some quick cheddar, nothing more......GO BIEL!! - gone
Biel 2589 Love it! Based on all that is happening and the new interest in BIEL, it is about to fly! - gone
On the new interest, by a couple of prolific traders, in the medical devices of BIEL, it is interesting to watch the extraordinary negativity, designed to hopefully drive prices down, pick up a few million shares, pump and run to the next one......Go BIEL!
Hi Chompiee: I am so positive about Biel products and the direction they are going is because I found this sub-penny stock with proven great pain relieving properties and at such a steal of a share price. It will not take much to make this company skyrocket - products being sold world-wide today EXCEPT for temporarily lagging in the US and that is going to change quite rapidly and so will the share price. I have been told that I am not too smart to put in so much money in a sub-penny and soon those folks will not be laughing at me and my millions and all other shareholders that believe in Biel's potential.
Bob- Love your posts and enjoy reading about Biel immensely. I’m just wondering how .32 is possible this year without some sort of reverse split? I get there are many great things in the pipeline and I have no doubt we will be moving in a positive direction this year but that’s a huge jump from where we are.
I just hope this SP gets as high as it can before Andy decides to do a reverse split. What will be the next piece of news we hear? Maybe CVS or Walmart?
Get ready Biel investors things are going to hit bigtime this year and it does not look like we will get to 34 cents/share from our current .0009 but the big news will take us there by Xmas 2018 watch closely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks mtoronto, excellent point re revenue being more than just sales.
I had expected some revenue from the 'Pain Gear' Deal but did not consider money received from a partnership.
Several posters have commented that they could not believe that Dr Scholls, now owned by Bayer, has not done a deal with BIEL yet. IMO there is a strong possibility that they have but the cat is not out of the bag.
Rooting for Philly!!
Hi Srinsocal
Trust you are well and hope you are looking forward to the Super Bowl.
Great predictions on Q4, Q1 and Q2 sales predictions on the BIEL board. There are a lot of positive posters on the board that make reading very interesting.
I should mention that sales make up only one component of the revenue stream, this is where my opinion may differ from the good posters on the BIEL board.
Revenue is the total amount taken in by a business in a set period of time.
This can include royalties, license fees and equity from partners and sales.
BIEL cannot have millions in sales without including the other revenue streams mentioned above.
My revenue forecast including sales may be different than others.
Talk soon.
Back at you. The overall picture is coming into focus. All the years of wondering if this company would break through, and it looks like we are ready to walk through the door. The fda news was great but right now, the nhs news looks even bigger for the moment because this will result in increased sales numbers in the near future. Good luck to you.
Hi Coach
It's been a while, trust you are well.
Great rewards will follow in due time. Waiting on the FDA protocol. Which means pre-submission. Guidance, rules and timing will be part of the protocol.(Looks like May-June clearance.)
Migraine clinical results will still be the huge one for the FDA protocol.(August-September clearance on positive results.)
NHS is the first of many EU States getting on board. Pretty good health systems across the pond. Sweden next!
You kind of think that a partner has to be on board before a big chain?
Keep well Coach.........
Ha! Go back to 1412 on medical devices and then come forward - there may be documentation tucked away you don't have access to . . . . it would clearly show why I am conflicted . . . . because of, rather than in spite of . . .
It's too bad that you have a conflict of interest!
The back pain study will obtain US FDA clearance for relief of musculoskeletal pain. Migraine headaches are not musculoskeletal. Migraines and musculoskeletal pain are both neurological disorders. Two FDA clearances!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SEC-much ado about nothing!
Partners-much ado about something!
Not that I would tell you what you already know and if I did know anything, I wouldn't be here. lol
Are you making any plans to visit any huge chains in the future????????
Pearsby appreciates getseriousok and his balanced opinion. See what I mean?
A resounding ‘Yes’ to all 3P
Totally agree. Unfortunately sometimes emotion gets the best of people. They are attacking our investment and that makes people angry. It would be better if no one responded to them because we already know the game but not always the motives. What is happening here has made me the most optimistic I have ever been regarding this company. It seems we are on the cusp of major events increasing the value of this company. With share structure as it is however, I think 32 cents is a bit unreasonable. I think 10cents is very reachable. Having said that, when and if this makes national news, sentiment could make it go higher. The prospects are exciting. We shall see.
Leave up negative messages and stickies on medical devices and never complain about them or respond to such things, ever! The absurd negativity labels the author with a huge red flag, not The medical device and allows entities to continue moving forward and upward based on successes.
Sure....relating to how to effectively deal with negative feedback on SWT medical devices cleared by FDA....by complete removal of that information from your spectrum. By ignoring a nuisance or bully and not reacting by responding denies that individual the attention they so crave, or seek, as their underlying psychological issue - still having that undatified underlying issue then drives them to seek the attention they crave elsewhere. ..... if no one reacted, they would deteriorate further emotionally.....
Thinking of BIEL, President Trump declared 2 minutes ago X3 that they are going to take a long look at defamatory libel laws - no longer will it be that people can say things they know to be false about others and the intent to make it easier for victims to hold others responsible for what they say and write. Can’t wait!
Go BIEL
Good Afternoon: A pet peeve of mine has always been some one with a negative answer or comment right or wrong. Especially when he or she cannot be placed elsewhere!! Any way a Particular Moderator can be removed?
Dilly Dilly!!
Well done Paul!!!
Very nice read Lee, If anyone else has been in his shoes? We, All of us would never had come this far!!! I wore a loop on my lower back today and during the Ncaaf Championship game and forgot I had not moved comfortably for a week... It works!!!! I personally forgot, giving more than 100 Patches away... I get mad real easy but I have never ever been negative towards Our founder thru thick and thin.... Next June 17th my brides 73 birthday I will have been here 13 yrs, and I bought then! Anyone else bought that long ago? Last month I bought huge and after finally being even Im still extremely positive! Only on this board would I ever tell! Ok positives lets have a fab year!! Dilly Dilly Franci and Paul
Well said 3 pointer- I know this man and there is much, much more to him than initially meets the eye....in over 9 years have not seen him miss by much on anything....regulatory learning curve? Yes...but he learned and didnt quit or even falter in the face of overwhelming barriers and pressures and morons. All while having NO money for things that were desperately needed with crucial timing....so always clawing and scratching for $$$, with the money late and in the Pharma game which is fraught with killers who have 100’s of millions in cash and powerful lobbyists.
All credit to Andy Whelan and every past and present good BIEL consultant and service provider. Only wish legal counsel, who died so suddenly last year and Ed Whelan were here to see NHS and the rest of the end game unfold.....
Respectfully - he is 80+ years old.
COME ON MAN!
We may never have a chance like this again, especially with a product that works so well - WITHOUT ANY SIDE EFFECTS!
Just this once I sincerely hope he can turn his over to a seasoned CEO.
DO THE MATH AGAIN, when you get one of these REALLY experienced CEO’s to lead the way.
The best cutting edge technology hooked up with a top shelf CEO = no more mishaps, no more unforeseen mishaps, partners with really deep pockets to distribute all over the world, coupled with an unbelievable Worldwide marketing campaign. This all adds up to a VERY SUCCESSFUL RETAIL LAUNCH here in the US, that will eventually works it way all over the world.
This would be a no-brained. Better have tons of wheel barrows, cause we’re gonna need em’!
Nhs, sounds almost like a prognostication! I agree about ceo. The animosity is like a virus. One starts it and before you know it you have a waterfall of complaining. Whelan had the ambition to bring this to where it is. I challenge anyone to do better. We’re on the cusp of profitability. No complaining here. Hopefully we will be rewarded royally for our patience.
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