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I don't understand this sentence: "I am interested in going after the products that Charles and Chandra because they each ran away and were taking these products with them which were created with ENZC shareholders monies." WHAT "products" did Charles & Chandra [run away] with?
BM, I was never a part of the Discord Cult, so I do not know what that group of people are doing.
1) What made ENZC attractive to other pharmaceuticals and to shareholders were the products that Charles and Chandra created during their employment at ENZC. These products must be returned to ENZC or the shareholders to make ENZC attractive or whole again or the shareholders must be paid for what they are worth if they are not coming back to ENZC. ENZC share price took a dump and ENZC shareholders lost monies after the announcement came out about Charles and Chandra left ENZC and started up their own new companies with products created or fine-tuned during their employment at ENZC.
2) Obviously there are other issues related to the SAGA deal, dividend shares etc. that are pending or not clear whether if they are going to happen or they are just empty promises that will never occur.
I am interested in going after the products that Charles and Chandra because they each ran away and were taking these products with them which were created with ENZC shareholders monies.
Don’t think they were using those labs anymore.
The only lawsuit I see coming is Charles suing Harry. Harry is a real piece of work after all the work Charles did to defend Harry and the baggage Harry brought with the company he repays Charles with a cheap shot.
Actually he confirmed first hand that ENZC has vacated the lab there and is gone. More writing on the wall (as if anymore was needed) that this is over.
I would seriously like to know IF the Discord Cult is really taking up a collection in order to file a lawsuit. But not sure WHO would be suing WHOM in that. Does anyone know about this?
No, I didn't see any Pic except the one of a door with Enzolytics on it. I will have to scroll back to find all your previous Posts to find the one with your other Pics. Thank you for going & reporting on this on this to us. So bottom line, you went there to see if the Company actually had a lab there, and you satisfied your curiosity that they DO, right?
Currently my Ihubs account does not have a private chat capability. Lets find a way to communicate in private chat. Ihubs has one happy hour on every Friday after 4PM EST where all Ihub account holders can use private chat. Lets start our chat there.
I am sure we will be talking about general things in the public forum for the time-being.
Any other shareholders who are interested in talking about going after Charles and Chandra and the IPs should be going back to ENZC, please private chat with me this Friday after 4PM EST or 1 PM PT.
Was Charles sleeping during all the late notification filings of quarterlies and annuals? Was he asleep during the audit and uplist? Did he fall asleep during the African trials? What work did Charles do to keep Enzolytics, Inc. out of the GLD v Sagaliam lawsuit? It's all Harrys fault and Charles did his best to save the investors. Let's all hope that Charles can pull a rabbit out of his hat, wave his magic wand, and make this all go away.
My opinion is that IF Harry screwed Charles after all the work he did to get Harry out of those law suits and clean the company up then there is no way he gives a crap about us. Right now thats the way its looking. Having said that there might be a chance Charles could pull the magic enzo monkey out of the hat and be the Phoenix.
I thought their main labs were outside of A&M.
docsetc, I think there will more undoing than doing…
Certainly. They have a lot of spinning to explain.
docsetc, I don’t see how the new entity will have any value greater than that of ENZC prior to the SAGA deal if the new entity is listed on the OTC rather than NASDAQ.
That's just it. Nobody knows yet. ENZC is still claiming SAGA owns BGEN and the IP's and we're still to get the dividend and the SAGA shares.
The visibility we have now from the skewed 45-dgree angled view, is that it could all be never-ending crap, or it may still come to pass.
IMHO, I'm sitting at 70-30 in favor of the crap, but will wait and see what happens by June 1st.
docserc. Which ever happened, yes or no, with Sagaliam, I expected ENZC to end up in the trips. The question now is will the ENZC shareholders participate in whatever entity the assets held in the two subsidiaries have been sold/transferred to… ???
my pleasure Wick. Wish I had better news to report. guess we'll see.
docsetc, All thanks to you for making that effort of visiting A&M… greatly appreciate the information. Much respect for you being generous enough to share it on this board. You are a great asset to this message board. Thanks, again.
That is correct, as of 2 days before the PR dropped about the new board election, ENZC shut down both labs and vacated the campus. There is no lab there for them or any subsidiary at this time.
Completely agree, not even a miss in all of that.
Just because we don't know any different at this time, there may be another reason they've split from ENZC: In short, the work's done, rewards are on the way via a pending deal on their IP and it's time to retire (or go it alone) and let ENZC (or SAGA if still alive) have the deal on those 3 patents. They get their royalties and have stock in both companies (assuming SAGA survives). There was probably an absence of cohesiveness between them and Harry anyway. JMHO.
ENZC hasn't said anything about the Cotropia's yet, only that ENZC wanted Chandra as their CEO, and that he didn't want it. The Cotropia's and Chandra either have something with their IP or they've got nothing. Based on the information you gathered, which I greatly appreciate, I think it bolsters the argument that they're on to something and have made a strong effort to research and patent their results. Has it failed in the end? Don't know. The suddenness of the move without any comments is disturbing. JMHO.
I'm wondering if the Cotropias' actions could be an indication that they know there's already a deal on the table that will commercialize those 3 patents when granted. They assigned those patent applications to Biogenysis in 2022 and 2023 and will receive a 15% royalty (5% each) on each patent. IMO, that is a substantial royalty. It's been very curious/suspicious to me why they've been very quiet about them (and additional research) for a year or so. They have also made recent amendments to the patent applications with comments that they believe those amendments answer all examiner issues. That is public information. They've either got something and it's close to paying off or they can't work with Harry any longer or they've got nothing. JMHO.
So, maybe they believe the patents will be granted and a pending deal IF THERE IS ONE, which should be between Biogenysis and a 3rd party, will be executed and that's enough for them to walk away and do something else. If this is the case, they could also continue with research and cut a deal with Harry (or a 3rd party) for more royalties on new patent applications or do contract research. JMHO.
Like everybody else, I want some thorough, honest information and explanations from ENZC, SAGA and the Cotropia's. They owe it to us.
I wonder if going in with a small group of shareholders is better than going with KOP ion a class action suit? I am heading out somewhere now but will resume this conversation when I get back. Thanks
Hey, what's a few dollars more? 🤣
Just adding here for some crazy reason while listening to all the great words of wisdom on these board lmao 🤣
docsetc, Dont waste your energy argue with you know whom. Talk to KOP who I will be speaking to as well. Let the lawyer and judge decide. You are wasting your time talking to nothing here.
I strongly believe that all the patents that Charles created or fine-tuned during his time at ENZC belong to ENZC and shareholders.
Thank you again for travelling there
LOLOL....Sure, give away more $ 😂
Into Somebody's pocket. Gullible fools.
The only thing anyone could really try to go after is Chandra’s Twitter posts. The PR’s all have safe harbor statements for a reason. So going after ENZC for anything in any press release ever put out will get no where. Going after Chandra for his pumpy, hopeful sounding Twitter posts is never getting anywhere.
Yeah, but that's the kind of 'defrauding investors' situation where those complaints must be registered and sent in. I need to go look up that URL someone here posted to do just that.
BTW, that last PR on Accesswire, that's what Sharabura did in his failed company, tried to be a sales, distributor and assembler of semi-rugged tablets and laptops, and he crashed out of business. He used crap core components for tablets and laptops, then covered them in bad case shielding. Boom no more company. Now, he wants to do the same for medical diagnostic hardware and devices under ENZC?
Emtpy shell of crap then. I'm putting in a sell order at .11c pps, set it for annual, and put this one to sleep. Will check back on PR's to see if they have anything decent. Can't believe they didn't mention the patents pending for a wisp of relevant good news.
These weren’t run of the mill everyday 9-5 “employees” sitting in a lab working on the hiv progress under Clone 3.
We’re talking about the company CEO who brought his families previously developed Clone 3 under this with the merger. Patent apps were under the Cotropias names. Any work which further developed Clone 3 into Clone 7 or whatever they are calling it would still not belong to ENZC. And it sure as hell would not belong to shareholders in any sense regardless lol. You don’t just throw some money into Tesla stock and suddenly own the patents and asset rights under Elon’s name or the companies. Lmfao. These assets were also under BGEN which was a subsidary. That was sold to SAGA in the deal which was completed and even the new CEO confirmed as much just two weeks ago in the PR stating that they were still going through FINRA to issue the dividend shares.
For not having much good to report, that's a better-written PR than what Charles usually dumped online, with grammatical errors and sometimes conflicting statements coming out of a lawyer like Charles.
What sounds bad is that they are not addressing Clone3 or Clone7, are they giving up on mABS completely, after having a 100% success in initial toxicology reports and 95% efficacy on early tests of Clone3? What happened to IPFImmune? the African Trials of ITV-1?
Still so much to answer for. Sounds bad overall, but a better attempt at putting out a PR in any case.
GLTA
No, I don't agree with that user (so no on personally and agreed). If another user on this board wants to contribute to his class action lawsuit that is on them. I wouldn't give him a dime. Supposedly being a lawyer and not seeing through the SPAC BS I have a hard time believing. Why is he looking for $100,000? Simple, if he can get users here to advance more funds to fight against the perceived deception of the company then that is more that he can claim.
Docsetc, so from your tour, ENZC does not have a lab in T A&M. Correct?
Zero and I mean zero chance that Charles just left the rights to the Cotropia’s “life work” to Harry Z. Not even a possibility. Whatever they want to call it now. Clone 3, Clone 7. Clone 101003828171. Doesn’t matter. Those valuable assets are gone. It’s just something people have to come to terms with here.
Count me in Archilles.
I worked for a major oil company. Any ideas that I develop while employed belong to the company.
Don’t even get me started on that and the one behind it…
Didn’t mean you personally and agreed. That guy is supposedly a lawyer himself. So why’s he looking for $100,000 to “retain a lawyer”. I’d assume out of his realm on this one, but I wouldn’t trust that guy either with a penny let alone what he’s telling people he needs.
No, just the point that ENZC probably owns the rights to Clone3 at this point.
I didn't say that I would be one of them. I don't trust KOP based on what that user has posted. If a user wants to donate to KOP for a lawsuit they believe will retrieve pennies on the dollar that is up to them.
Might as well donate to the Enzolytics GoFundMe while you're at it hahaha https://www.gofundme.com/f/enzc-awarness-twitter-promotion
Where'd this money go to?
He ballparked needing over $100,000 just for starters to get the ball rolling. Majority of shareholders here took major losses. Who the hell is going to risk more of their money at this point and pony up over a hundred grand after already losing their asses on something that has little to no chance of ever going anywhere. The lawyers will be the next ones to walk away with all your money. Smfh.
You didn’t help them with anything. You invested in a publicly traded company and risked your money voluntarily. You do know what safe harbor statement are correct? Every PR they ever issued had one at the bottom informing you that basically nothing stated may pan out and any investment is a risk that can lose money.
Investing in a stock doesn’t give you control of their assets or patents in any way shape or form. Any lawsuit would be over other aspects of shareholder rights. And there’s less than a 1% chance anything would ever come of it.
Clone 3 was developed previously and brought here in the merger in order to combine with ITV.
Are you talking about the recombant Clone 7 or whatever new combo they worked on under ENZC and patent applied for?
Bottom line, it’s moot. You simply do not as a shareholder own company assets or patents just bc you invested in a companies stock. Get real. Are you actually entertaining this bullshit?
Thanks. I will contact KOP about this.
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Press Release July 20-2021
Enzolytics Announces the Signing of a Letter of Intent with Creative Biolabs, Inc.
for Licensing and Commercialization of anti-HTLV-1 Monoclonal Antibodies
https://www.creative-biolabs.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/enzolytics-announces-signing-letter-intent-113000339.htm
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Press release July 21-2021
Enzolytics and Lonza Bioscience Combine Technologies to Fast-track Development and
Production of Anti-HIV and Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Monoclonal Antibodies produced by Enzolytics
https://www.lonza.com/
https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2021-07-21/enzolytics-and-lonza-bioscience-combine-technologies-to-fast-track-development-and-production-of-anti-hiv-and-anti-sar
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July 22 INTERVIEW
with
James Hicks, Charles Cotropia and Gurav Chandra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdljO9VLgj0
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COLLEGE STATION, TX August 25, 2021
Important Excerpt from this news progress update.
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"The monoclonal antibodies being produced by Enzolytics against the CoronaVirus target 19 conserved immutable sites on the virus, sites which the Company has now confirmed are conserved sites not only on the initial virus strains but also existing in the Delta and Lambda variants, as well as in the Alpha, Beta and Gamma variants."
Enzolytics Inc. and Samsung Biologics Announce
Development and Manufacturing Agreement for Anti-
HIV and Anti-SARS-CoV-2
Important Excerpt from this news progress update.
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"Samsung Biologics (KRX: 207940. K.S.), a leading contract development and manufacturing organization and Enzolytics (ENZC), a drug development company committed to commercializing multiple proprietary therapeutics to treat debilitating infectious diseases, announced the signing of a strategic CDMO partnership agreement."_______
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