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From my experience it's quite rare, however, I don't generally follow Grey Market tickers very closely either. If I have one that gets suspended (I've had 3 this year alone) then I usually dump it or write it off as a 'worthless security'. I'm not going to hang around the message board to bash and/or complain as I have better things to do with my time, and a ton of other tickers on my watchlist to research.
EPTI is one of the few that I will continue to hold and follow, as I am very interested in seeing the outcome, if anything out of curiosity sake. IMO if a company like EPT is ultimately unable to resume trading on the Pink or OTCQB then it's prob unlikely that anyone will ever be able to again after suspension.
EPTI traded down 78% from pre-split prices in the first day, EXACTLY within the range of discounts that was mentioned on this board
I've never been invested in a company who has been suspended. I am pleasantly surprised by quickly this recovered. Big, how rare is it for a company share price like this to recover after suspension?
Big this rebounded nicely. Once those shorts started to cover it moved easily. It's obvious that the group or groups were smart enough to be patient...
Yes, so much for the bloodbath, this is back trading at pre-suspension prices, I'm still waiting on those 90% discounted shares that were being predicted by some...lol.
Curious as to what prompted you to invest in the first place? The spam pumps? The mailer? No need to reply but typically investment professionals know not to touch promo OTC crap.
I knew I was screwed going into today but for the amount of shares traded and the final price I'm pleasantly surprised.
I'd also add that on my E*TRADE app most of the volume coming in is green meaning buyers .
That means nothing. There's no bid or ask, so there's no way to tell what trades are buys and what trades are sells. They are just matched trades.
Yes, I heard from him too. I told him about DBMM. Probably you should give him a list of any others you may have.
just heard from warren. this ticker is now fixed, at least temporarily. there are many other tickers though that are still wrong.
Anybody seeing what I'm seeing. The ask is at 5 on i hub?
That's a problem we've been discussing on the Q&A board. The stock has no bid/ask, because it's Grey. But whoever provides quotes to ADVFN doesn't seem to realize that.
Oh, wait a minute... Evidently they do now; the bid and ask has disappeared. That's how it should be.
The guy is full of shit in my book but he mentioned that since the SEC didn't extend the suspension that was a good sign. Do they usually extend suspension?
No. By law, the SEC cannot extend suspensions.
I appreciate you and your thoughts on my knowledge. Have a great day
There is no bid/ask on greysheet stocks like EPTI
Anybody seeing what I'm seeing. The ask is at 5 on i hub? . I can't see this on E*TRADE app . I bought 2k at 185 back when things were good. Trust that I got a bit sick this morning and thought I'd dump but said to myself stay the course things will be good again. Is there anyway this thing gaps up to 5 like that in the anytime soon. Any thoughts on that?
I work for an investment management company and its just standard on any security purchased.
Why the hold did you violate more then 4 times in a 12 months. On reinvesting unsettled funds? Gotta be careful there, but they do give 4 just saying
I agree with you. The investor relations contact that I've been emailing has been feeding me a lot of bs. I wish the company would come out with a press release today. That would make me feel a lot better. Another issue I have run into is I have a mandatory 60 day hold on securities from my company which isn't making things any easier at the moment.
Yeah, I agree, this is trading better than I expected for now, in fact it's actually more liquid than many of the OTCQB's I follow, we'll see if it holds up over the next few days.
I was still able to put a bid in today through TDA as well, which was a surprise, I figured they would be blocking it as TDA is usually pretty restrictive.
Obviously the situation is not ideal but it's about as good as you can hope for from Grey market trading I suppose.
Yea I'm not gonna budge on the sell. I'm a heavy equipment guru. Not that that in titles me here around there product. But I know a good product when I see it. As I've said before I owned a trucking company for 10 years I lost in this last bernaky/ bush recession. I know freight , and the fact that this company can safely consolidate liquid products to ship is well absolutely amazing. I'd love to see them get a product approved by osha that can do the same for hazmat. I think it's in the cards but I like what they are doing. And pray to god they had no hand in the recent promo. But again I'm in it to win it. I havnt lost a dime of my money I invested right?? Because I havnt sold my position. So in my head it could drop to a penny but I havnt lost unless I sell right?? That's how I make since of it. Do I regret not protecting my profits when it was trading? sure but I liked the 5 dollar price point that was on the promo. Yea I would've sold at maybe 250 for sure at 3 because I'm accumulating CANABIS Plays and bio techs like kblb, but that was then and now here I am. I'll just have to find new resources until this rock star comes back 10.4?
I don't even know what the play is here? It would be nice to not lose everything but I do believe this company can come back.
I spoke with the trading desk at E*TRADE and they can sell my shares no problem there are buyers and some north of your purchase price but less then mine. Let's just hope EPTI gets this cleaned up, or they will lose lots of interest. But the action in the buy side today tells me good stuff even if it is shorts, but the bulls look to be bucking some bears. Let's go bulls let's go.
I'm with you on this, I bought 2k shares at $1.27. Not sure how difficult it will be to trade this. I'm am surprised at the action today though and the number of shares traded.
I appreciate you thoughts and input on said matters. Thanks bud
once again i have sent a p.m. to ihgeek warren. i have been fighting about this for months.
8500 shares was just purchased seconds ago
I guess all we can hope for is a return to OTC correct?
10.4 to that ihub anomaly
It is trading on the grey market. You won't see bid and ask.
the current ihub data feed will not remove the bid or ask. i have complained to ahub on many other stocks but apparently there is no fix. there is no bid or ask and the ihub numbers should be ignored.
I'd also add that on my E*TRADE app most of the volume coming in is green meaning buyers . There was a bit of red early but overall green. I'm feeling much better about this real company and what the future looks like for them .
Anybody seeing what I'm seeing. The ask is at 5 on i hub? . I can't see this on E*TRADE app . I bought 2k at 185 back when things were good. Trust that I got a bit sick this morning and thought I'd dump but said to myself stay the course things will be good again. Is there anyway this thing gaps up to 5 like that in the anytime soon. Any thoughts on that?
Not as bad as I thought it would be...
since the SEC didn't extend the suspension that was a good sign.
you are correct, he is full of shit. by law, the sec can suspend for 10 days and 10 days only. in order to suspend again it would have to be for a completely different and unrelated reason.
Looking for an answer from the group. The IR guy said the are trying to put out a press release today. The guy is full of shit in my book but he mentioned that since the SEC didn't extend the suspension that was a good sign. Do they usually extend suspension? I'm assuming they might if the company is a complete fraud.
good luck. i hope things work out for you, but don't be suprised if there isn't any trading for awhile.
Well when the market opens tomorrow morning will finally know what this suspension really meant
yes, it has not traded since the suspension was over. i don't know if i have posted the following links or not but you can see all suspended stocks and research them if you like.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=127559570
https://investorshub.advfn.com/SEC-Suspensions-&-Revocations-25334/
Yeah I tried finding a recent suspended stock, AIOM just was relisted and has had zero volume for the past few days.
ftssf was never suspended by the sec.
it might be very difficult. it wasn't heavily traded to begin with and it will be a matched market. it would not be unusual to see no volume for awhile.
How difficult will it be to trade this stock come Thursday?
Read my last post
Reverse merger with IMST on 6/8/17.International Metals Streaming Corp. Does anyone know what this means for EPTI?
well, as i speculated earlier, there was no meeting scheduled. it was merely someone's expectation. and even if they do get a meeting it can and will not effect the suspension in any manner.
Doesn't do us much good if the suspension hearing is basically concluding when the suspension is lifted.
SEC Suspense Update
All,
It was expected that David Skirloff - CEO - Environmental Packaging Technologies (EPTI), was to have a call with the EPTI Lawyer and the SEC yesterday. That call has been pushed out to early next week. David said that they are preparing all the supporting documents to substantiate their position that EPTI was not complicit in the development and distribution of the "Promotional Mailer". David will provide me with an update once the meeting with the SEC takes place. We thank you all for your patience's while we work through this matter.
Best,
Bud
C2 Partners
red, it was pointed out earlier that the picture was from another company that was mentioned in the same article as EPTI
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EPT believes it has developed-the an efficient and economical way to safely transport bulk, non-hazardous liquids, offering products that provide innovative solutions to meet growing global demand. It has created a patented transportation system that consists of a two-ply plastic tube encased in a woven material that can be filled with up to 6,340 gallons of liquid. EPT primarily has two separate products – the Big Red Flexitank and its newest product Liquiride, launched in 2016. EPT’s products have been used to ship hundreds of different products from bio diesel, wine, juice, milk, high-fructose corn syrup, and even liquid latex.
We are committed to providing our customers with the most state-of-the-art packaging solutions available in the market. Our products are engineered and tested to surpass the highest standards and requirements in the industry. BIG Red Flexitank® • BIG Red Wine-Pac™ • BIG Red LIQUIRIDE™ Our goal at EPT is to provide safe and quality products that help our customers reduce shipping costs and increase efficiencies.
The Big Red Flexitank is a large single bag that fits within a 20’ shipping container and is secured by bulkheads. It has certifications for shipping on most of the world’s railways, roads and ships – a very difficult and time consuming process. EPT believes that it has the premiere product as it has a long history of the fewest leaks within the industry, with substantially less than 0.1% of all tanks developing a problem. In 2015, EPT sold approximately 20,000 Flexitanks and generated $16.5 million in revenues from those sales.
The newest product, Liquiride, is believed by EPT to be the only liquid shipping product that works for use with standard 40’ and 53’ shipping containers. A unique feature of Liquiride is the capability to have multiple flexitanks filled with different liquids within a single shipping container. EPT also believes that it is also the only product in which temperature control can be guaranteed as it can be shipped within a refrigerated (“reefer”) container. Liquiride has recently received certifications from the US and Canadian rail and highway authorities.
EPT has recently reached a five year contractual agreement with one of the world’s largest shipping companies for the exclusive use of Liquiride within this company’s ocean-going reefer containers. EPT believe that this relationship will significantly increase revenues over the next several years.
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