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I suppose that's a possibility.
But I decided to sell and use the loss as an offset to some of my profits in 2021. That was my "fallback" position from the beginning.
If this ticker does somehow survive and become a potential shell, I can always buy back some shares down the road.
In the meantime, its "sayonara".
Thanks for your time and work! Maybe the last hope will be that someone takes custody and uses $DESTQ as a shell looking for a Meger!
My final wrap up (almost).
Judge signed an order that will result in the final dissolution of the entity Destination Maternity (see docket 1229). Here is the "killer" statement from that docket:
Someone just made 50 to 1? Wow.
Theft of these shares, I don't even know how to buy shares of this at 0.0002 if I'd wanted to!
Quite the volume jump and all shares traded above .0001…any ideas as to why?Seems too large for tax write off and who’s buying above the dead price of trip ones??
Sorry, but I'm not following this stock anymore.
there is only this news.
file:///C:/Users/marco/Downloads/14122021023628DN1209AmendedAgendaReschedulingHearing10_8207_20211412142812644.pdf
what happens today in $DESTQ? News ?
Nice summary. And my condolences to all.
Sometimes when a company says it intends to cancel all shares, they mean it, NOLs not withstanding.
I still find it curious that when DEST transferred all their material assets to Marquee, they did not include their NOLs. That's originally what piqued my interest in this ticker and still does to this date.
I can only surmise that Marquee Brands never intended to become a public company. For that is the only reason why they might have been able to use the NOLs from DEST.
RIP DESTQ
Well, I guess that settles, once and for all, what was truly meant by the disclaimer about imminent share cancellation, in DEST's original chapter 11 filing, right? It was written in plain english. Therefore, those that read and understood the dockets continue to have the apparent edge over some folk that prefer to draw fictitious conclusions from "charts" like a crystal ball.
True, this was always a lotto play for us. I was always appreciative of chemist72 and the dialog that we were able to start here around real prospects, rather than fictitious book values and wishful thinking. I only wish that there'd been a resource for shareholders to have a say in what went down before the share cancellation. Had there been, perhaps all our early misgivings about the auction's "preferred bid" giveaway, duplicate claims and canceled hearings might have gotten some response on the part of the company. Instead, we were left with some false hopes and no outlet for keeping pressure on the company to drive any residual value to the shareholders.
"Dissolution" means DESTQ will no longer exist as a legal entity.
There are no NOLs; there is no shell; basically there is nothing left.
I will be surprised if anyone is able to do anything with any DESTQ shares that they might still hold.
I sold the last of my shares on 10/25 after DESTQ filed a motion to have their BK case dismissed. Was able to sell my shares for $.0001 - got back $1.05 after commissions. -LOL
Does this mean that it is the end of $DESTQ? No one will take advantage of the NOL'S? Or is there hope that it is a shell and some custodian takes control?
Its all over. Judge signed dissolution order 11/22/21*.
*See docket 1185.
Notice of Agenda of Matters Scheduled for Hearing Filed by Destination Maternity Corporation. Hearing scheduled for 11/22/2021 at 11:00 AM at US Bankruptcy Court, 824 Market St., 6th Fl., Courtroom #1, Wilmington, Delaware.
https://cases.primeclerk.com/DestinationMaternity/Home-DocketInfo
Thank you, I said it for a company that I have followed for a long time and that has not just stabilized ... specifically BYOC, I think it only has a debt of 5.5 million but 65 million in deficits I suppose that it is tax deductible, my knowledge of 10Q is limited
Depends on current corporate tax rates.
Before the recent corporate tax rate decrease NOLs were valued at about 30%. With current corporate rates about 20%, NOLs shouldn't be valued at more than 20% of their face value.
This is just an approximate rule of thumb. Would take a professional accountant to figure out a more accurate valuation.
chemist72 a question about tax benefits (it's another company), if it has a cumulative deficit of $ 65 million, how much would it be valued approx? Thank you
There were more than 4 claims, I just posted the links to the first group.
Nah, the aggregate amount of these four claims was $4,216.
Saw it, thank you.
I'm still concerned about the lack of cash to pay the claims in full by now. Could mean commons will be canceled. The withdrawal of a few claims does not make me feel more secure about my 20,000 shares, unfortunately.
I had signed up for the filing emails not sure if anyone saw this. Maybe I did give this up for dead too soon, but for those still holding...
Date Filed
Court Docket #
Document Name
10/26/2021
1149 Withdrawal of Claim(s): 845 Filed by The County of Brazos, Texas. Filed by Texas Taxing Authorities.
Link to .pdf filing
10/26/2021
1148 Withdrawal of Claim(s): 846 Filed by The County of Denton, Texas. Filed by Texas Taxing Authorities.
Link to .pdf filing
10/26/2021
1147 Withdrawal of Claim(s): 849 Filed by The County of Hays, Texas. Filed by Texas Taxing Authorities.
Link to .pdf filing
10/26/2021
1146 Withdrawal of Claim(s): 844 Filed by Central Appraisal District of Taylor County. Filed by Texas Taxing Authorities.
Link to .pdf filing
There are more filings if you want to look at the docket
The lack of transparency from this company throughout the bankruptcy process has been ludicrous. I should have known when they canceled the auction that this could be toast, since the only upside at that time, there being no assets left as of the sale, would have been if a stalking horse bidder had sunk millions of equity into acquiring "the brand name."
I appreciate the chemist for creating a positive dialog here and for allowing us to see both sides of the coin all along.
Kudos to the former mod who apparently took the money and ran. His only "diligence" being that he'd apparently had a horrible misread of the Chapter 11 terminology, and that he somehow believed DEST would outlast its claimants but instead they blinked first.
@corvatsch - I sold today too at 100% loss. I am however very curious to learn how this plays out for anyone that continues to hold. I hope you will update this board on how it turns out for you. I will keep watching and hope this turns out as a win for you.
in my opinion it's not over yet ...
You give her for dead, but DESTQ she's not dead ...
C B L A Q
Send me a post from one of the iHub bankruptcy boards linked below. We can discuss further there!
https://investorshub.advfn.com/Bankruptcy-Plays-Chapter-11979
https://investorshub.advfn.com/Bankruptcy-Q-Players-Bqp-15425
Thanks chemist72 no gains this year haven’t played much in years. I have done a little well in the past with bk plays but I always left too quick and literally left a few million on the table on a couple of them :( I thought this one would maybe get to 0.20-0.25 with the low float. Anyhow keep me in your thoughts if you come across any other bk’s I love playing them.
If you want to claim a "capital loss" on your 2021 tax return, the simplest and easiest way to do so is to sell your shares before the end of the year and, more importantly, to sell them BEFORE they become untradeable.
Today I was able to sell 2 lots of shares with 2 different brokerages. At Schwab, I was able to place a sell order "at the market". Those shares traded at $.0001; TDA would not accept an at the market order, only a limit order. So I placed a limit order to sell some shares at the same price through TDA. That is at a limit price of $.0001.
I wasn't going to play games and try to sell at a higher price. I was just happy that an MM was able to complete those trades for me.
IF I waited until I wasn't able to sell those shares (which may happen after DESTQ cancels their shares), then I would have to prove to the IRS that the shares were worthless. I don't know how easy or how difficult that might be, so I was happy to sell my shares at any price.
Below are a couple of links that explain somewhat how to claim a worthless stock tax deduction.
https://thelawdictionary.org/article/how-do-you-report-capital-loss-on-stocks-from-companies-that-went-bankrupt-and-went-away-like-enron/
https://www.irs.gov/faqs/capital-gains-losses-and-sale-of-home/losses-homes-stocks-other-property
If someone prepares your taxes for you, you may want to consult them to be sure.
But, in any case, good luck to you this year and next!
So to get the tax loss is now the right time to put in the sell order or just let the shares sit? I made profits other places so at the very least I would like to take advantage of the loss.
If you have some capital gains this year, you can use your losses from DESTQ to offset some of those gains and, thereby, reduce your tax bill.
My tax savings will amount to about $250 from my DESTQ losses. That's a lot more than the <$1 in proceeds I received from my last sale of DESTQ shares.
(To be exact the proceeds from my last sale were $.05 - yep, a lousy nickel. LOL)
Hey chemist72 thanks brother for the reply. It is what it is like you said a gamble and would of Being nice to have something go my way for once but that’s how the cookie crumbles. I would let my shares collect dust no point of even trying to sell now. All the best and thanks for the all the hard work
Thanks. Was a very long ride for me. Almost 2 years.
Although there were a few "pops" above $.02 (not long lasting). DESTQ was mostly pretty flat, trading between $.01 to $.02.
The biggest drop came recently when DESTQ was moved from Pink No Info to the so-called "expert market" and real-time quotes became unavailable.
Best of luck to you in the future.
@Chemist72 - I would hope everyone knew it was a 'gamble' stock. I know I did but thought this one might have a better outcome then what it appears like will happen in November. One small silver lining is that the loss can be used as a write-off on your taxes. Thank you for all the helpful information you provided along the way during this bumpy ride.
Sorry to say its almost all over.
DESTQ has asked the judge to dismiss its BK case. If that happens in November when the hearing is scheduled, DESTQ will then proceed to dissolve the company and have all its equity cancelled (all outstanding common shares and any outstanding preferred shares).
This will make DESTQ shares "worthless" and likely untradeable.
I would like to apologize to any of my followers who may still own DESTQ shares. This stock was always a gamble for me, and I lost everything in the end.
Was hoping for a different outcome, but that is the chance you take when buying shares in a company that is in bankruptcy proceedings.
c'est la vie
I have/had to read legislation as part of my job and can try to breakdown what is being said.
Essentially, DESTQ started their bankruptcy proceedings as a way to identify and liquidate the various assets the company managed. Now they are saying that they have liquidated EVERYTHING that can be liquidated (Even bonds with Customs/Border orgs. for importing.) Due to this they cannot put together a PoR as there is nothing to reorganize (<$5M afaik.) compared to the claims.
From my understanding they would like to dismiss the case instead of moving to chapter 7 proceedings mainly due to the costs associated with chap. 7 being too high:
"After considering all potential alternatives, the Debtors have determined that a
dismissal of these chapter 11 cases is the most expeditious and cost-effective process to wind down ... Secured Claims and
Administrative Claims. A dismissal will result in greater recoveries for such holders by ensuring
a faster and less costly completion of these chapter 11 cases as compared to a conversion to
chapter 7. The fees and commissions incurred by a chapter 7 trustee and its professionals alone
justify dismissal of these cases. Moreover, conversion to chapter 7 would further delay distributions to holders of allowed Secured Claims and Administrative Claims, as a chapter 7
trustee and its professionals would need to spend time familiarizing themselves with these cases.
(emphasis mine)
Also, there was this little nugget:
"Because the Debtors have sold substantially all of their assets and ceased
operations, the Debtors intend for their corporate entities to be dissolved as soon as reasonably
practicable upon entry of the Dismissal Order."
Chemist72 thanks brother for all the post you bring to the board. Now if you could dumb it done to a 5-6 year old comprehensive iq it would be perfect lol sorry man it’s like I read it and read it and I’m like what does it mean lol wow I’m beyond lost
Some edits to previous post:
Looked more closely at docket 1139. Below is a more accurate breakdown of the various sections of this docket.
1) The first 14 pages contain technical lawyer stuff that I can't interpret easily.
2) The first section of claims is called, "RECLASSIFIED CLAIMS" and is 4 pages long.
3) The second section of claims is called, "NO LIABILITY CLAIMS" and is 50 pages long.
4) The third section is called "REDUCED/MODIFIED CLAIMS" and is 57 pages long.
5) Fourth section is lawyer justification stuff. (4 pages)
6) The last section seems to be a repeat of the first part of this docket, and seems to be part of the order that they are asking the judge to sign.
Holy cow. DESTQ just submitted a list of modified claims that runs 230 pages long!
See Docket #1140, just filed on Friday.
THIS MATTER IS DUE TO BE HEARD IN COURT ON NOVEMBER 22, 2021.
The judge has already signed an order approving the date of this hearing (see docket #1138).
DESTQ has also submitted an order to the Court, to have their case DISMISSED!!!!
See Docket #1142 (haven't looked this one over yet).
More to come.
POR deadline extension basically a foregone conclusion.
That is because DESTQ announced that some sort of agreement was reached (though not yet specified) between DESTQ and the objector to this extension.
This raises the following questions in my mind:
1) Will DESTQ finally present a POR to the Court by this latest deadline?
2) Did the judge have anything to say about all the deadline extensions and if so, what did he say??
3) If DESTQ asks for another deadline extension, will Pan Pacific or another party object to another POR deadline extension?
4) Will the Court release any info regarding what went on at the Hearing today?
I don't have any answers right now. But the answer to the most important question (#1) will be known by Nov. 13, 2021.
Nothing to do now, but wait another month :(
"the Debtors’ Exclusive Plan Period is extended through and including November 13,
2021 and the Debtors’ Solicitation Period is extended through and including January 15, 2022"
See #1132
Omnibus Hearing agenda published. See Docket 1129.
My comment: Appears Hearing will be held via ZOOM. Docket 1129 states the following -
So you're telling me the entire market cap of this company/shell is less than the retail price of a laptop computer? I'll buy the whole thing.
Is there any shred of hope left that they're putting some efforts into emerging from this BK? I don't know, but would think some insider would be incentives to get it back into compliance.
There is always a risk that a bankrupt stock will go to ZERO.
In this case, it is almost there already, even before the company has filed a POR.
Seems a bit "unusual", but heck, what do I know.
Sears has been in bankruptcy for about 3 years and still trades in the pennies. They filed their POR about 2 years ago.
The motivating factor behind new SEC rule concerning other stocks like DESTQ seems to have been to avoid any opportunity to take on any risk. Unfortunately for existing shareholders, we are left with 100% of said risk. This is awfulness.
it happened that if you had entered SIRI in December 2008, you would be a millionaire ...
at least ten Lamborghinis you would have bought ...
in 2008 SIRI had practically gone bankrupt, then came a debt loan, and a great relaunch of the company ...
Hi corvatsch if you don’t mind what happened to Sirius radio back then? Not to familiar and looked around can’t seem to find any articles maybe because I’m in Canada which is weird thanks
Gonna be long, cold, volatile winter for DESTQ longs.
Probably going to bounce between .0001 and .01 several times. Market is very thin obviously and bids above .0001 will be scarce as well as buyers at .01. So up sometimes maybe as much as 10,000% and down 99% some days (like today).
Good luck to all the brave souls left here.
Try not to look too frequently at the trading. It will generally be meaningless until DESTQ files a POR with the Court.
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The nation’s largest retailer of maternity wear has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection amid sagging sales, increased competition and changing customer tastes.
Destination Maternity listed $260.2 million in assets and $240 million in debts in its filing with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware.
The company, which in August announced it was reviewing strategic alternatives,
including a possible sale, said the process has “already yielded indications of interest from several credible bidders.”
To fund its operations during the Chapter 11 process, Destination Maternity obtained consent to use cash collateral from all of its prepetition secured lenders.
In connection with the agreement, binding bids for the company must be submitted by December 5, 2019, with an auction to be held on December 9, 2019.
The bankruptcy court must approve the sale by December 12, 2019.
Destination Maternity said it intends to use the Chapter 11 process to optimize operations, including right-sizing its brick-and-mortar store footprint.
“In a challenging retail environment, we have had to make some very tough choices, but we are confident that the steps taken today provide an opportunity
to continue a marketing process that provides the most efficient means of maximizing value to our stakeholders,” said Lisa Gavales, chair of the Office of the CEO,
which was created in June to oversee the chain during its search for a CEO.
“Throughout this process we will be focused on developing the promising interest already shown by potential bidders, and maintaining operational momentum toward a stronger business.”
As of August 3, 2019, Destination Maternity operated 446 stores in the U.S., Canada and Puerto Rico under three banners: Motherhood Maternity,
A Pea in the Pod and Destination Maternity, along with 491 leased departments in department stores and baby specialty stores throughout the U.S. and Canada.
It also operates international stores via franchising. Net sales for the first six months of fiscal 2019 decreased 10.3% to $179.1 million.
It reported a net loss of $14.3 million in fiscal 2018. Kirkland & Ellis LLP is acting as the company’s legal counsel, Greenhill & Co is acting as investment
banker and Berkeley Research Group is serving as Destination Maternity’s restructuring advisor. BRG’s Robert J. Duffy has been appointed as the company’s chief restructuring officer.
Nov. 30, 2019 8:04 pm ET
Bankrupt retailer Destination Maternity Corp. will shut down its remaining 235 retail stores under a deal
that would see a licensing firm buy the company’s brand name and other assets for $50 million.
A licensing platform backed by Neuberger Berman Group LLC has agreed to acquire the e-commerce business,
brand name and intellectual property of bankrupt retailer, according to a filing in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Del.
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