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Now this is more than likely the TRUTH. Read between the lines
They get enough smell from the garbage they pickup,lol.
If you look back in my posts you will see that I said,.
"Fire DEMERS and the share price will double. ". "Hire someone with an IQ and the share price will double again."
It may not be all sales, but just more faith in management.
We were all convinced DEMERS would destroy the company.
The same goes for Littlefair.
Spoke to driver of Cng trash truck when he picked up in front of my home, said the truck is great. Quiet and no diesel smell.
Great post !
Another thing the driver didn't mention is the EXTRA COST for an NGV over a standard diesel truck.
I have said it before, we will see NGV's, just not as many as you hope .
That's why this is and should be a $2.00 stock.
what I found interesting was the driver comments. He said comparable power or even better performance. He also said it was quieter. All drivers will like those traits when operating a truck.
One thing not mentioned is the lack of a diesel smell. Many drivers will tell you that is one thing they really notice when operating a NatGas vehicle.
First GM says ALL Electric; NOW FORD !
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ford-details-plan-to-cut-costs-accelerate-move-to-electric-cars-suvs-and-trucks-2017-10-03?siteid=bnbh
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/02/technology/gm-electric-cars/index.html
I haven't heard of many new deals involving NGV's. Certainly not to this scale.
Another great article...
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/02/technology/gm-electric-cars/index.html
Wow Nice Find Krays. one more Big Boy stating the Long Distance Hauler with LNG, just imagine with all of CLNE Business with Municipalities and Buses, Trash. Here come those Long Hauler. It's all becoming Reality... Good Day...
Ndakota
Thanks Krays, Do we all know Volvo Trucks market share?
Don't worry,... no biggie.
Volvo weighs in on alternative fuel debate
http://www.primemovermag.com.au/news/article/volvo-weighs-in-on-alternative-fuel-debate
The price of oil continues to climb higher. Today it is almost $52.00 a barrel. Diesel is selling higher again while gas is down somewhat. Bottom line, no stability in pricing.
ALL this Instability will make truckers and companies that use heavy duty trucks lean more to stable NatGas powered trucks.
Totally great article Kray
Thanks
A great find indeed. Kray posts a great article on trucks and transportation and you counter with a HONDA CIVIC.
LMAO!!!
ZEV's do pollute unless they are being recharged by electricity that was generated in a way that doesn't pollute. ( I am not aware of any in existence ) Even solar panels, which may seem to be non polluting at a cursory glance cause pollution through their manufacture. Do ZEV's actually pollute less in a real sense through the full lifecycle of the vehicle and it's supporting systems for charging it?
NGV's pollute !!! ZEV's do not. From the Yahoo message board: PNGGGJONES:
75 % of the diesel engines in California could be replaced by ZEV engines/motors. We need to find uses for the natural gas that is produced by landfills and livestock. It makes far more sense to burn NG in power plants or convert it to Hydrogen which is then used to power vehicles.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markewing/2017/08/09/toyotas-hydrogen-fuel-cell-kenworth-can-revolutionize-heavy-transport/#73b6e646e487
Toyota's Hydrogen Fuel Cell Kenworth Can Revolutionize Heavy Transport
Toyota Motor North America’s “Portal Project” is an effort to develop a fleet of zero-emission semi tractor-trailers to haul freight from the world’s two busiest container ports, Long Beach and Los Angeles, to a railhead well beyond the densely popul
www.forbes.com
Says it all. When will free lunch end?
http://af.reuters.com/article/africaTech/idAFL5N1LR0LH
Has the rate of growth been slowing.?
We used to have double digit growth rates, now every quarter the rate of growth is less. SLOW ORGANIC GROWTH at these levels means SMALL NICHE.
This is a nascent business, and at this phase, growth should be exponential, but we have the opposite.
Bad day(s),
As you always say ng will be a small niche, and Quarter after Quarter it has grown for the past 2+ - Years. it has not stalled, it has not gone backwards. it has GROWN! slowly but surely it is growing from your slow Niche, to a Bit Bigger, and a Bit bigger again. That is the Truth. Good Day...
Ndakota
Your absolutely correct Whas. All the truck manufacturers will tell you the same story on Electric vehicles. It may work and is currently being tested in the city delivery market. These units have a range of about 60 miles max. The technology is just not there and they all admit reduced cargo capacity due to the added weight of the batteries. Many are hopeful but I view their responses as part of the PC culture that we live in.
PS Diesel prices are bouncing around like a silly putty ball in my area. Just a few days ago diesel was selling at 2.80 a gallon and moving higher. Today its dropped back under 2.70. Believe the National average has retreated just alitlle @ 2.78 down 1.6 cents
Garbage Trucks and Buses...
Municipal vehicles within organizations which don't have shareholders, bottom lines or investment criteria. But they do have your tax dollars to waste.
As I have stated many times... There WILL be NGV's...they are and will continue to be a SMALL NICHE.
The same reasons that YOU don't drive an NGV are the same reasons others don't as well... the government isn't paying for your vehicle, the economics are NOT COMPELLING ENOUGH, and it is INCONVENIENT.
Ng trash trucks stop at my house twice a week
Every day, let me repeat, everyday ng trucks pass me on the highway
I see maybe 1 Tesla once a month.
Never see electric truck.
Whassup, again we agree.
In 25 years, the majority of OTR trucks will still be diesel.
There will be a SMALL NICHE of NGV's; and a growing segment of ZEV's including electric, Hydrogen, Fuel Cells, etc.
Who cares about China?
Every vehicle manufacturer cares about the LARGEST vehicle market in the universe !!
This is why they are building to meet with China's standards. WHICH DON'T INCLUDE FOSSIL FUELS !
Why would you tool up for an application which is obsolete ??
That's why vehicle manufacturers are going ZEV and DROPPING Natural Gas.
All customer not commercial OTR trucks.
If u think Zev battery trucks will dominate the trucking industry within next 25 yes, ain't gonna happen.
That's right. And ZEV's are ready today...
So why take the unnecessary intermediate step with NGV's?
We can go directly to ZEV's. That's what vehicle manufacturers are beginning to decide !
China who cares what they are doing
Didn't know clne had stations there
Zev will take 20 yrs to replace combustion engine
Aaaahh... I am glad you brought up RNG.
Can you enlighten Everyone on how many gallons of RNG are marketed?
With this knowledge we will be able to determine what the NG to RNG ratio is and how "green" Natural Gas really is.
For CLNE, California is much bigger and RNG is not a fossil fuel DJ.
Which is bigger ?
China or California ?
My guess is China banning fossil fuels has a bigger impact than clean buses in California.
Jid3294, thought you might have some insite as to what is going on with CLNE and the transportation world.
In my area diesel fuel is going back up quickly. This weekend it topped 2.80 a gallon and is going higher. NatGas is staying steady. A barrel of oil just broke thru fifty dollars today.
Any thoughts?
Oil pushes over FIFTY dollars a barrel. Diesel is 2.80 a gallon and going higher. All while NatGas price is steady.
TRUTH: The Future is ZEV's
Volkswagen is a "second mover" in electrified commercial vehicles, after lagging behind companies such as Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and Deutsche Post DHL (OTCPK:DPSTF), the head of VW's (OTCPK:VLKAY) trucks business, Andreas Renschler, told Tagesspiegel.
At the Frankfurt motor show last week, the automaker said it was stepping up its shift to electric cars by investing more than $20B in zero-emission vehicles by 2030.
https://www.sciencealert.com/new-research-takes-us-another-step-closer-to-a-hydrogen-fuelled-future
Natural gas was going to be at best a "bridge fuel"; until EV's and FCV's evolved. This is why natural gas was always going to be a small niche, and why CLNE is always going to be a $2.00 stock.
EV's and FCV's are now viable and much more convenient, without taking the unnecessary intermediate step with natural gas. This is why the UK, Germany, France, and China (and others?); all have plans to ban the sale of fossil fueled vehicles in the coming years, in favor of ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES (ZEV).
Nat Gas weighs less than diesel is true.
BUT... CNG is under pressure and the CNG cylinders plus the fuel weighs more than diesel.
AND.... LNG is cryogenic.... Soooo LNG cylinders plus the fuel weighs more than diesel on a BTU neutral basis.
I've seen and heard some things about this truck and what Elon wants to accomplish. One thing that I could not find anything on was the weight of this truck. Batteries are extremely heavy and it takes a whole lot of them to power a heavy duty truck.
so keep in mind for every pound that is added to the truck or trailer is a pound of payload that is removed. Truckers get paid for the freight that they haul. Of course if you only haul feathers or styrofoam no problem.
PS Something else to be aware of is NatGas weighs less than diesel which means a NatGas unit can haul more fright than a diesel powered one. Could be an advantage if heavier commodities are hauled.
Anybody know anything about the new Tesla semi truck supposedly coming out soon? It's up big today from the announcement...
Thanks for that...
Please note that China is the largest vehicle market in the universe.
Manufacturers will design and cater to the largest customers.
This is why Mercedes Benz is going ELECTRIC and HYDROGEN and NOT natural gas....
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=32912#
Kinda kills that theory.
CLNE does no business in China BTW
Your anti alt energy theories are getting slaughtered lately.
CHINA PLANS TO BAN SALES OF FOSSIL FUEL CARS ENTIRELY !!!!!
UH OH... Natural Gas is a FOSSIL FUEL !!!!
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-plans-ban-sales-fossil-160134949.html
Less
China plans to ban sales of fossil fuel cars entirely: GREAT NEWS FOR HYDROGEN and ELECTRIC VEHICLES !
China's big electric vehicle push is about to get even bigger: The country is planning to end the sale of fossil fuel-powered vehicles entirely, with regulators working currently on a timetable of when the ban will ultimately take effect, according to finance.yahoo.com
Good point
Hope your doing well in Jacksonville
Not to mention oil headed for $60bbl
IMO, favorable developments on the ports Clean Air Action Plan along with sizable truck replacement incentives ($1.5billion) from the California Cap and Trade legislation funds.
Any of you wondering why this stock has been going higher as of late? I was. Well, class 8 truck orders are up over 50% over last year.
As my dad used to say; "PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT"
GO CLNE!!
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Clean Energy (Nasdaq: CLNE) is the largest provider of natural gas fuel for transportation in North America and a global leader in the expanding natural gas vehicle market. It has operations in CNG and LNG vehicle fueling, construction and operation of CNG and LNG fueling stations, biomethane production, vehicle conversion and compressor technology.
Clean Energy (Nasdaq: CLNE) is the largest provider of natural gas fuel for transportation in North America and a global leader in the expanding natural gas vehicle market. It has operations in CNG and LNG vehicle fueling, construction and operation of CNG and LNG fueling stations, biomethane production, vehicle conversion and compressor technology.
Our Mission
Clean Energy is changing the way the world fuels its vehicles. Energy independence is an undisputed goal for our nation, and we at Clean Energy know just how realistic and attainable that goal is with natural gas fuel. Moving forward in our thinking as well as in our vehicles means a safer, healthier planet for all of us. This change is already happening. Natural gas is abundant and domestically available and is already used as a cleaner source of energy around the world. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/about-us/#sthash.xIy4zrGL.dpuf
Clean Energy Fuels’ company growth over the decades has been marked with risk and reward, and always defined by passion. Entrepreneur and energy pioneer T. Boone Pickens and current Clean Energy President and CEO Andrew Littlefair had a vision they felt could change this country for the better.
The idea behind natural gas fuel is two-fold, and Americans hear a lot about both of its main benefits: a greener planet and energy independence. Like all paradigm-shifting ventures, Pickens’ company started relatively small and grew with consistency that proved he wasn’t just “onto something.” He was putting in motion a company that is instrumental in making the change that so many of us talk about.
Leadership
Message from the CEO Clean Energy is working to change the way America fuels their vehicles. Energy independence is an undisputed goal for our nation, and we at Clean Energy know just how realistic and attainable that goal is. – Andrew Littlefair,
Andrew J. Littlefair Andrew J. Littlefair is President and CEO of Clean Energy, a company he co-founded with T. Boone Pickens in 1997. Previously, Mr. Littlefair served as Vice President of Public Affairs at MESA Inc., then one of America’s largest independent producers of natural gas. In this role Littlefair oversaw the company’s natural gas vehicle activities and served as special assistant to Mr. Pickens. Mr. Littlefair served as Chairman of NGVAmerica for 8 years from 2003 to 2011. In 2004, he was named an NGV Champion by the International Association of Natural Gas Vehicles (IANGV). In 2014, Mr. Littlefair received an Environmental Leadership Award from the California League of Conservation Voters for his work in renewable natural gas and building America’s Natural Gas Highway. Mr. Littlefair graduated from the University of Southern California with a B.A. in Political Science. He and his wife have two sons. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/about-us/board-of-directors-leadership/leadership/andrew-littlefair/#sthash.EEGOiMLZ.dpuf
Raymond Burke Mr. Burke serves as our Vice President, Business Development (Solid Waste). In this role, Raymond focuses on developing new strategic growth opportunities for Clean Energy in the solid waste industry. He leads outreach efforts aimed at educating waste industry leaders on the benefits of using clean-burning natural gas fuel for their trash collection fleets. Prior to joining Clean Energy, Raymond served as Southern California Area Vice President for Waste Management, one of America’s largest solid waste companies. He began his career at a 50-route disposal company where he held operational posts leading up to General Manager. Raymond earned an MBA from Chapman University, Orange, CA. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/about-us/board-of-directors-leadership/leadership/raymond-burke/#sthash.rOhaZrw5.dpuf
Harrison Clay
Mr. Clay serves as our President of Clean Energy subsidiary Clean Energy Renewable Fuels. In this role, Harrison is responsible for leading Clean Energy’s efforts to produce and sell renewable natural gas (or biomethane) that is derived from the anaerobic decomposition of organic waste. Prior to joining Clean Energy in 2008, Mr. Clay worked at the San Francisco investment bank WR Hambrecht + Co. Mr. Clay has extensive experience in structuring and trading environmental commodities, venture capital, corporate and project finance and the clean tech and energy industries. Mr. Clay has a JD from the University of Virginia and a dual AB in Anthropology and English from the University of Georgia. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/about-us/board-of-directors-leadership/leadership/harrison-clay/#sthash.4k2DvBTr.dpuf
Clay Corbus
Mr. Corbus serves as our Senior Vice President, Strategic Development. In this role, Clay helps develop strategic growth opportunities, acquisitions and financing strategies for Clean Energy. Previously he was Co-CEO of WR Hambrecht & Co, the firm that managed Clean Energy’s 2007 IPO. Prior to that, he worked with Donaldson, Lufkin & Jenrette from 1989. He graduated from Dartmouth College with an AB in Government and has an MBA in Finance from Columbia University. Clay serves as a Director with three companies: Alaska Energy and Resources Co., Overstock.com and Goodwill of San Francisco.
Mitchell Pratt
Mr. Pratt serves as our Chief Operating Officer. In this role, Mitchell initiates business strategy and oversees production across all of Clean Energy’s divisions. Before coming to Clean Energy, Mitchell was the General Manager of the Natural Gas Vehicle (NGV) department for the Southern California Gas Company. His 18-year career represents a diverse background of leadership roles ranging from customer satisfaction, financial and distribution operations, to public policy, and sales and market development. He has a degree in Engineering as well as an MBA..
Robert Vreeland
Robert Vreeland serves as our Chief Financial Officer. In this role he manages the finances for Clean Energy while seeking new revenue opportunities in the marketplace. Prior to this, Bob served as Vice President of Finance and Accounting at Clean Energy from 2012 to 2014. Before joining Clean Energy, Bob was a consultant at RV CPA Services, PLLC, a provider of certified public accounting services. From 1997 to 2009, Bob held various finance and accounting leadership positions including Interim CFO at Hypercom, a global manufacturer of electronic payment and transaction equipment. Prior to Hypercom, he spent twelve years at accounting firm Coopers & Lybrand. He has extensive experience leading global finance and accounting teams as well as deep tax and financial planning expertise. Bob earned a B.S. from Northern Arizona University and is a certified public accountant.
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-- James Hooley Vice President, Federal Government Relations Don Horning Vice President, National Truck Team
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Airport Service Vehicles
Price-Stable Efficiency Ready For TakeoffWe understand the logistic and economic pressure airport authorities face when supporting thousands of passengers a day. Stabilize your fuel budgets, potentially increase non-aviation revenue, and offer your community cleaner skies with clean natural gas fuel.Fueling taxis, parking, hotel and rental car shuttles alongside service vehicles at North America’s busiest airports, Clean Energy has built over 37 airport-serving natural gas fueling stations to create a greener transit environment and control costs for drivers and airport authorities alike. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/airport-service-vehicles/#sthash.lO4XCjfr.dpuf
Construction
Your construction fleet must be efficient, clean, and cost-conscious on the job site and on deliveries. Manage your bottom line and distinguish your business as a community leader with price-stable natural gas, abundantly available in North America. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/construction/#sthash.O6AdGI06.dpuf
Government Fleets
The pressure to enhance your community and balance budgets can be daunting. Switching your local fleets to natural gas is an easy way to win community support, clean up the environment and control costs. Clean Energy is already serving cities and municipalities across North America, which are now enjoying the benefits of natural gas. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/government-fleets/#sthash.DMHyDhWd.dpuf
Heavy Duty Trucks
Carriers looking for cost stability and reliable fueling, choose Clean Energy as their natural gas fueling partner. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/heavy-duty-trucks/#sthash.IU7BCSy8.dpuf
Industrial Facilities
Switching to a reliable, cleaner-burning fuel is not only good for the communities where you do business, but it’s also smart for your bottom line. We deliver CNG and LNG to facility owners today, providing all the benefits of natural gas without the hassle of supply, logistics or price negotiations. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/industrial-facilities/#sthash.VHkzzrBb.dpuf
Light & Medium Duty Trucks
Switching to a reliable, cleaner-burning fuel is not only good for the communities where you do business, but it’s also smart for your bottom line. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/light-and-medium-duty-vehicles/#sthash.SmVAgs0T.dpuf
Marine
We’ll take care of everything you need to accommodate the LNG fueling process, from fitting plant-to-dock pipelines to modifications and upgrades to both your yard and dock. And of course, Clean Energy will help you navigate through the necessary permitting to make this change happen. It’s a part of the process we know well, and our experts will help make it quick and worry-free. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/marine/#sthash.DKavLjDu.dpuf
Mining
Your mining fleet must be efficient, clean and cost-conscious on the work site. Manage your bottom line and distinguish your business as a community leader with price-stable natural gas, abundantly available in North America. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/mining/#sthash.Hrl7XDO4.dpuf
Rail
In order to stay competitive in the evolving transportation industry, railroads are choosing Clean Energy as their natural gas fueling partner. We have pioneered the use of natural gas fuel in other transportation market segments, and we’ll use this depth of knowledge to help you forge the way forward in LNG-fueled locomotion. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/rail/#sthash.4aP13J6C.dpuf
Refuse
You are in the business of managing waste and budgets while making the world a cleaner place. Natural gas fuel for your refuse fleet can help you reach every one of these goals. That’s more than gasoline or diesel can say. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/refuse/#sthash.3Ksq5BHg.dpuf
Shuttles
Win customers, build loyalty and manage costs by going green. When you team up with Clean Energy, your fleet starts controlling fuel costs from day one, and customers who ride with you will feel good about their sound, environmental choice. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/shuttles/#sthash.2fZ7HDru.dpuf
Taxis
Your customers rely on your fleet to get them where they need to go, and to do it responsibly. Gain loyalty and repeat business with a more cost-effective, environmentally friendly fuel for your taxis. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/taxis/#sthash.CKcFw1Wf.dpuf
Transit
Build a cleaner, more cost-efficient transit system for your community. - See more at: https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/customer-solutions/transit/#sthash.HG3nU4CT.dpuf
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