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no, im 'moosegullycutten'
You're not the olico (ERIK) on RB then.
Let's order incredible amounts of free samples and start our own retail outlet.
I've tried but I can't get past the free samples.
Go get Nestle back in with a juicy PR or something.
nope..
constipated pumper :)
I think they have a lotta of shares yet to go...that on top of Gregs 8000 or so, plus whats' her name the CFO at about 8000/mo.
Olico...Does your first name start with a "E"?
Or get that CEO's mug shot on a magazine.
got to get this seller DONE.
Nope.....what fun.
Raw.....
I'm flabbergasted....
you didn't buy at the low?
That was my understanding of their original intent...this plant here is only a pilot plant.
Was kidding too. I always prefer the royalty model (and used to be a big fan of IDCC, QCOM's competitor) for that reason.
It can become a nearly cost-free revenue stream, kind of like franchise royalties. Hell, MVL's turnaround was due almost entirely to collecting royalties.
LOL! j/k........just a comparison of business models in different situations.
CXN the next QCOM? You're thinking too small.
yes, and that fun...;). Look at what Qualcomm did........
In other words collect royalities. EOM
another point that I did not make. CXN is NOT trying to supply the world from THEIR locaion with Z Trim either. They want to design/build the plants in EXISTING food mfr's sites. That way they can get a percentage of the bulk materials etc, and profit that way.........
This plant WILL produce product, but its more to show a set up etc of how many larger companies can do the same thing in THEIR plants............CXN will derive profits from a percentage of materials used/sold by the mfr's.
well, actually the plant is not 100% ready, but it IS 1/3 workable........and within a month should be 100%
From old friends.
thanks olico..
can you comment on how you found out about CXN?
RAW..you sly trader you.
good luck
>> Rawnoc..why the big turnaround? >>
For starters, 50 cents and one year of progress behind them is far better than $6.00
I came within 5 cents of my entry last time and had to watch CXN sail from this level to $2.45 Nov/Dec last year. Got my gambling money back in. Made one trade from .51 entry, out at .57, and hoping this one will be a huge one.
that post was a reply from Greg, sorry that was not clear.
olico.
I've talked with Trevini and Greg myself. The plant just isn't ready yet...that's why I asked how you knew they could make as much as is required....it can't, at least not yet.
Thanks for your input although it seems you've used someone elses words in your post.
olico, may I ask how you found out about CXN?
Rawnoc..why the big turnaround?
Hotrod, here is your answer:
The plant has a full capacity of around 25 million pounds of gel fat replacement. This is accomplished with two lines running three shifts. The second line electrical was just completed except the Dryer is around three weeks from being fully connected. We are only running one shift currently so the current annual production capacity is around 3 million pounds. There are also interuptions from time to time for example, last week we were testing out by-products for a major food giant who has a large surplus they want to see if our process could be used to turn their hulls into huge profits. BTW, the tests were tremendously successful, and the finished product is even far better than what we already were making.
Yeah, Hotrod was pounding the table long at $3 to $5?
you got it! I did ask (Triveni Shukla) when we were there.........forgot what he said, 40K something or another...........I know they are packaging it down the street now by the truck load.......but will get you those exact numbers. At THAT location.....;)
olio..nope, not bashing...I own this stock..ask rawnoc, lol.
Unfortunately, he got me at a much higher PPS.
I'd be very interested if you could get me a total pounds of product they can make in THAT plant only.
Just for my info..thanks.
hey hot rod, you comin in to bash me. If so, I really dont have time for that............
Yeah, I actually met with the guy who design/built it........the total production per day does escape me, but I can get you that total again......
umm, oh olico...
is this your opinion?
Do you know how much they can produce?
Oh yeah, and they HAVE a plant which CAN produce as much as is needed. And perhaps those old Nestle folks may be coming back around now.....we shall see.
May 9, 2005 (FinancialWire) "Nick
Tracy," whom FinancialWire unmasked in an expose a year ago as no stock
hero, but rather a never-do-well individual named Timothy Miles charged by U.S.
Securities and Exchange Commission with stock fraud and charged by detractors as
being a sloppy investigator who despite picking some bad apples, has almost
never had his facts straight, says he's giving up his website,
"Our-Street.com."
Whether that is true or another subterfuge, the irrepressible self-appointed
"scam cop" has his SEC trial coming up in June. The other two
individuals charged with him have also reportedly left the country. He is
appealing a ruling against him in a case involving Circle Group Holdings (AMEX:
CXN), and he continues to claim credit for "discovering" a phone scam
involving six companies, including American Multiplexer Corp., Donini Inc.
(OTCBB: DNNI), 5G Wireless Communications Inc (OTCBB: FGWC), Innovative Food
Holdings Inc., and Power3 Medical Products (OTCBB: PWRM) and their shareholders
which the SEC recently said was in reality "discovered" and reported by
the largest number of investors in its history.
True to his history of questionable diligence, the now apparently
"former" Our-Street" proprietor has continued to suggest that the
companies themselves were involved in the scam long after the SEC had said none
of them were found to have been involved.
Although Miles had reveled in his oft-stated position that he is
"judgment-proof,: in an essay entitled, "Thinking of Suing Our-Street?
Read This," he stated that on May 5 he had handed off his ownership to
"new owners." Like "Nick Tracy" before FinancialWire unmasked
Miles, they are anything but transparent.
A search of the site did not turn up any information as to who the "new
owners" are, or their respective agenda or backgrounds. Perhaps more
interestingly, the site still continues what many believe are actionable,
libelous content, and if there are indeed "new owners," it is not clear
if these "new owners" enjoy the same apparent lack of assets that
emboldened Miles to claim he is judgment proof.
After the Illinois court loss, Miles had taken down most of the comments about
Circle Group Holdings and Halpern, as well, although he did add a statement
after the judge's decision, when Miles had posted "Freedom of Speech IS
DEAD," that could be considered libel anew: "That the courts would allow
someone to invade and silence this home of unbiased and independent due
diligence simply because some corporate criminal doesn't like the truths being
told about him is wrong on many levels and has consequences beyond this
website." It appears that he is still referencing Halpern.
Illinois Judge Susan Zwick, in her ruling against Miles, however, pointed out to
Miles that "the same constitutional principles that guarantee free speech
also work to insure that one who engages in such speech will stand behind
it." The judge's order also pointed out numerous conflicting claims and
statements made by Miles in filings and affidavits that were not supported by
facts or evidence.
Miles has since publicly solicited help on legal fees via PayPal or credit card.
He did not state in his solicitation whether any of the funds might also be used
in his defense of fraud and corruption charges brought against him by the SEC.
He also did not indicate whether he would provide any reporting to the public
regarding received contributions.
Meanwhile, Miles said he plans to complete a religious novel on "the meaning
of life," which he links off http://www.themeaningoflife.net , and has a new
financially-oriented website, http://www.scamspotting.com , which lists among
his credits, purported exclamatory statements from FinancialWire, and even the
SEC: "Thank you very much." The latter is the statement that the SEC
makes in its canned response to anyone who writes its enforcement division.
One year ago, FinancialWire unmasked the elusive, mysterious proprietor of
Our-Street.com, who had claimed to be Nick Tracy of London, as Timothy J. Miles,
of Klamath Falls, Oregon. A day later, Miles posted his admittance to his true
identity, and a more or less confession, including the fact that he was being
sued for fraud and corruption by the SEC.
"Securities and Exchange Commission v. C. Jones & Company, Carter Allen
Jones, Timothy J. Miles, Gaylen P. Johnson, and Jonathan Curshen, Civil Action
No. 03-WM-0636(PAC) was filed in the District of Colorado May 9, 2003.
Sources tell FinancialWire that Jones, Johnson and Curshen have left the country
ahead of the trial currently set for this June, and now it appears Miles has
followed their lead, although he continues to exist somewhere in the ether.
Observers are now wondering if Miles will appear in the SEC trial or any of
those that are now closing in on the man who boldly posted "Thinking of
suing Our-Street?", suggesting he was somehow prosecution proof and could
say anything he wanted to about anyone, whether libelous or not, under the guise
of "Freedom of Speech."
Our-Street has made some "believers," mainly by picking small
questionable penny stocks with a boatload of promotions behind them. Over time,
many invariably went out of business or ran into regulatory trouble, which
Our-Street then claimed responsibility for. Some were shorted to death after
becoming a "featured" company in Our-Street, meaning Miles seemed to
have found a way to turn his sloppy investigations and questionable reports into
self-fulfilling prophecies.
Something like throwing blindfolded at a dartboard with a giant center target
which someone moves in front of the dart when it doesn't just accidentally hit
the middle.
Such candidate companies are plentiful indeed. In just over two weeks,
FinancialWire has unearthed and published reports on almost 60 small public
companies about whom unnamed "third party" shareholders are running
promotions, often pocketing profits on their own stock sales as unsuspecting
investors ante up in a kind of pyramid stock scheme.
A year from now, how many of these will still be around? It isn't
rocket-science.
Picking "losers" is easy, however, using Our-Street's methodology,
according to observers: just throw manure and see where it splatters. Miles
welcomes responses from his targets, but invariably brands them as
"lies."
Before heading to the relatively safe haven of Slovenia, Miles' unmasking
included revelations that he is a former broker and self-professed failed public
company executive, who also operates websites devoted to art auctioning and a
mysterious otherworld crystal his site says has revealed to religious leaders
around the world "the meaning of life."
Slovenia, a relatively new country, is said to have only minimum The Hague
conventions, meaning dealing with or extradicting individuals in that country
are difficult if not virtually impossible for anything short of a capital crime.
In his recent post admitting to his move to Slovenia, Miles said one of the
things on his list of "things I want to do before I die," is "live
in Europe." He said other things on his list, like "preach sermons and
touch people with them including in a Pentecostal church, and "become an
international crime fighter," are now "done."
The ex-stockbroker and campaigner against "corporate evil-doers" is anything if
not versatile.
After acknowledging his "mistakes" that resulted in SEC charges of fraud and
corruption, and his failed efforts at running public companies and trading
stocks, Miles/Tracy inexplicably stated that this background led him to believe
he has the "skills necessary to conduct superior due diligence."
In his confession and acknowledgement, Tracy/Miles stated "there is more and
more speculation on the message boards about the person or people behind
Our-Street.com and a lot of speculation about who controls or influences it as
well.
"My name is Timothy Miles. I am in my mid 50's so I have a lot of experience to
draw on as I conduct my research.
"Since the early 70's I have been involved in business management in a wide
variety of industries, and almost always with companies grossing less than $100
million per year. I have been involved in turn-around situations as well as
start ups and been both a consultant, a hired gun and an entrepreneur. As a
result of my experiences, I have developed the ability to analyze a company, its
personnel and its activities with a certain degree of accuracy.
"I have been an investor since the late 70's and in 1988 I entered the
securities industry on a full time basis as a stock broker. I had a pre-existing
idea of what the brokerage business was like and was shocked to discover it was
nothing like I imagined it to be. I innocently walked into the offices of Power
Securities, one of the more notorious penny stock brokers and was both shocked
and horrified to discover what this end of the business was really like. I left
there within about a month and found a more suitable firm where I could actually
work for my clients and not against them.
"I discovered over time that the best way to make my clients and myself money
was working with companies as they were going public and in 1993, I left the
brokerage business and started Pratt, Wylce & Lords, a public company that
focused on helping small companies enter the public market. Through this company
we helped several companies enter the public market, among them Applied Cellular
Technologies (now Applied Digital Solutions NADSAQ: ADSX) and Gaming Venture
Corp (now Casino Journal Publishing OTCBB: CJPG). I also worked with a not so
successful company, Level Best Golf LBGF.
"In 1996, I shut down the company's operations as a result of my personal
failures due in large part to my inability to comply with the SEC's stringent 40
Act requirements. Organizationally wise, I had bitten off far more than I could
chew and I knew it. "Throughout this entire period, I never had a blemish on my
record as a stock broker or as a consultant but it was in 1999 that I made a
mistake I am not at all proud of. I was working with a company called Auric
Enterprises, Inc. and had structured a 504 offering for the stock. A number of
my friends wanted to invest but lived in California and Ohio, states that had
not been approved for the offering. I was told that if they drove to a
neighboring state like Nevada where the offering was approved, they could
invest. Rather than having them do this, I made the mistake of telling them
instead to put down addresses in approved states and filed these inaccurate
documents with the NASD. I also was not accurate as to the relationships of some
investors as well. This was wrong to do and I deeply regret having done it. I
have admitted this to the SEC in testimony and stand fully accountable for my
actions.
"Subsequent to these actions, Auric executed a reverse acquisition with Freedom
Golf Corporation and when they became dissatisfied with their investor relations
people they called me and asked me for referrals. I didn't have any but asked
around and was given the names of two people who were supposed to be honest who
I then referred to Freedom Golf. What followed was a significant promotion based
upon false and/or misleading information and an SEC investigation," he noted.
The SEC's charges disagree, saying that Miles/Tracy actually paid for the scam
hype, and failed at the time, as apparently he fails yet today, to divulge that
fact. The SEC also said Miles/Tracy and his co-conspirators "reaped profits of
more than $500,000" out of the fraud.
The case is used as "class materials" in presentations on stock fraud by John
Reed Stark, Chief of the Office of Internet Enforcement in the Division of
Enforcement of the SEC, at
http://www.johnreedstark.com/ClassMaterials/LitigationReleases/freedomgolf.htm
As to his other activities, he admits to having "built a website which deals
with another love of mine. It is OTCart.com. I have developed a real time
quotation system for limited edition art. It is very slow catching on but I
remain optimistic," and to "have built another website which is connected to a
novel I am writing. I have been an ordained Christian minister since 1970 and
the book is spiritual in nature. It is about the meaning of life and the website
is appropriately titled www.themeaningoflife.net It was at this site where he
revealed his "insider" knowledge about the mysterious "crystal."
Miles / Tracy says he is "disillusioned about the corruption that continues to
infect the market and those who involve themselves in it and I certainly am not
proud that I found myself swept up in it to the point where I personally did
things I knew were wrong."
In February, Miles last wrote to FinancialWire, after first berating the
newswire for covering his (short)comings, and as now seems to be the case, his
goings, "I am empowered and inspired to do good for the market and to expose
stock fraud and corruption in the market.
"I genuinely want to suggest you find a church and get in touch or back in
touch with God and Jesus," adding it's a "good thing God forgives me my
shortcomings."
FinancialWire replied that Miles' irrationality was mindful of Judges 15:16,
"inasmuch as we feel as though we have been slain by the jawbone of an Ass."
Our-Street's publisher didn't respond, leaving reporters to infer the site's
proprietor has no sense of humor that we are aware of.
Observers believe the market hasn't heard the last of Miles. Whether the SEC has
heard the last of him will be determined when his trial comes up in June, or if
and when his appeal of other lawsuits runs out.
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Heard that A 'magazine' was there, and that they are very well known.........they were told that a cover story was coming in June........;)
Nice stuff! Thanks. Any word on the Forbes mag?
I hope your big hitters are going to put this thing on roids. ;)
I may be adding myself next week.
I saw the pics on the walls........Forbes sent him a tie as well with some caption I cannot remember, but he does know him..........and others as well.
There lobby is huge, and the plant is extremely impressive. It was up and running when I was there.............chuggin away........we were served lunch, dessert, and I went to Greg's house and met his wife and kids....
This guy is very busy, and has a ton going on. I was there with another long time friend who has some serious money....things gonna heat up soon enough imo. Just pay attention, and lets get this little seller out of here....once he is gone, we should begin to do a steady lift UP. Greg has made himself VERY accessible to me, this is very UNCOMMON with any ceo.
We did a complete tour of the building, and all the goings on. They also have a gym in the building that they do charity events and various martial arts training at. There are several athletes working there, and the place really was abuzz with activity. Phones ringing etc.
If I were to have a building/plant, this would be exactly like I would construct it. VERY CLEAN, and not some small office in the back of another building............AGAIN, unlike many other types of companies that are public and just playing the sell the stock game.......this is not it.
The guys that I know are coming in are big hitters, and this product, and I can say I had it on Lasagna, salad, brownies, cheese cake, strawberries, and cookies.............IT TASTES NO DIFFERENT THAN THE REAL THING.........I could not tell what the Z Trim was in, or what it was not in. The food was excellent!
I walked out of there very impressed..........we talked about how they were marketing it, and about how much they can deliver. They want to produce at their plant, AND set up plants within other food manufacturers building and get a percentage of the product produced etc. Then these large food distributors can produce it directly themselves, and we can make the bling on the Z........workable concept. They said there were many pilot programs going on now to develop this with some large food companies etc.
I have more, but am rambling............good times coming ahead here imo. Funny thing is, they HAVE a product, hell, they have a LOT of products, they HAVE recently set up a marketing team on both the internet, and paper fronts, they HAVE many connections, INCLUDING OUR OWN GOVERNMENT, now pushing this on a daily basis.........Oh yeah, and they HAVE a plant which CAN produce as much as is needed. And perhaps those old Nestle folks may be coming back around now.....we shall see.
The time is coming quick for this to catch on, and according to Greg, they are going to get the name Z-Trim in front of everyones face this year in American, and the outside, well, this is already happening, outside the USA.........
Pay attention..............Im adding on any and all dips here. This seller has some shares to move out, but with some steady volume, they should be gone soon enough. Im catching em down here..........
Yup, but i wouldn't call it "full time" yet.
Know more next week.
Are they even running 1st shift?
Well, if they're running 3rd shift go for it....Just ask for the washroom, pics are about 50 feet away. :)
That might get me in trouble at 3am.
Yeah, go to the physical address, walk thru the front door and look around.
Link to the pics you refer to? TIA EOM
Wouldn't surprise me, if you go into the lobby he has pictures of himself and Forbes on the wall. Buddies?
Unfortunately that idiot Gore and him are also on there...lol.
they should be cranking up production here shortly. Hopefully the bugs are worked out.
Rumor on the boards is, ceo of cxn to be on cover of forbes in may with story inside
well it's about time
we have an order...
Circle Group Holdings' FiberGel Technologies Expands
Distribution of Z-Trim
Company Enters into Agreement with a Nutritional
Superstore Tuesday April 19, 9:05 am
ET
MUNDELEIN, Ill., April 19 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ --
FiberGel Technologies, a subsidiary of Circle Group
Holdings (Amex: CXN), announced today that it has entered
into an agreement with a nutritional superstore and
has commenced selling Z-Trim products through its
catalogue and web channels.
"We continue to rapidly expand our distribution
network," said Rick Harris, FiberGel's VP of Sales and
Marketing. "In addition to recently entering into strategic
relationships with key marketing partners, this is an
excellent opportunity for us to market Z-Trim to
another large customer base that is committed to a
healthier lifestyle."
About FiberGel Technologies
FiberGel owns the worldwide rights to Z-Trim for all
fields of use. Invented over many years by Outstanding
Senior Research Scientist Dr. George Inglett
http://www.thesoydailyclub.com/Research/ars2132002.asp
at the United States Department of Agriculture, Z-Trim
is protected by three-issued U.S. and International
patents with more than 30 additional patents pending.
Currently made from corn and wheat, Z-Trim is a major
breakthrough in the war on obesity that gives consumers
the ability to lose weight without giving up the foods
they love and eat more of what they want without fear
of weight gain. For more information about FiberGel
Technologies, visit http://ztrim.com .
About Circle Group Holdings, Inc.
Circle Group Holdings, Inc. ( http://crgq.com ) is a
pioneer of emerging technology companies. The Company
provides small business infrastructure, funding and
substantial intellectual capital to bring important and
timely life-changing technologies to market through all
early phases of the commercialization process. All
Company press releases are available at
http://www.crgq.com/HTML/breakingNews.html .
Forward-Looking Statements
Statements made in this news release that relate to
future plans, events or performances are forward-looking
statements. Any statement containing words such as
"believes," "anticipates," "plans," or "expects," and
other statements which are not historical facts contained
in this release are forward-looking, and these
statements involve risks and uncertainties and are based on
current expectations. Consequently, actual results
could differ materially from the expectations expressed in
these forward-looking statements. Reference is made to
the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange
Commission for a more complete discussion of such
risks and uncertainties.
Contact: Steve Cohen
Voice: 847-549-6002
Email: ir@crgq.com
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