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[rocketeer357]

I think the "hardly matters" part of your post is spot on and applies to every MLB team dreaming of winning a world series title before the 3 year owner lockout hits in 2027. The Dodgers are also playing wounded- no Snell, Glasnow, Smith, Treinen, Diaz (to name a few)- which goes a long way in explaining their paltry 61 win total and scant 14.5 game division lead in the NL west. All these guys are slated for a second half return, just in time to mop the floor with the rest of baseball in October.

Enjoy the regular season. That's all we're getting this year. At the end of the day, the Crew and their 59 wins and their bye slot are going to be watching the same parade as the Yanks and Mets.

[SSKILLZ1]

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[Eli's Gone]

Got no tears---we've been the worst team in baseball for a month

[SoxFan]

We are a wounded team. Contreras hurt yesterday and now 5 game suspension, Suarez on IL (no all-star game), Anthony out 2 months with pinky finger bruise, Early left elbow inflammation, Casas who cares, Sogard - starting rehab double A, Crawford - will maybe return Sept, Story - after all-star break, Mayer- after all-star break, kinear-falefa - after-all-star break, Houck late 26, Crochet maybe August, Oviedo maybe August.

That's 4 starters - Story, Mayer, Contreras, Anthony

That's 4 starting pitchers - Early, Crochet, Suarez, Houck

The Mets should dust off their broom

[Eli's Gone]

I just figured you were wearing one of your Yankee jerseys this last month or so...but we're on a roll now---one in a row...

[SoxFan]

the dead sox are trying to suck me back in and I won't do it.

[SSKILLZ1]

Savvy Pick 10 Contest #3 Deadline on Friday Before Market Close.

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[Eli's Gone]

Yanks struck out 17 times last nite and 17 times tonite---can't wait for tomorrow LOL

[SSKILLZ1]

I can't evaluate his hitting numbers, for weeks before he went on the il he basically couldn't move and was in excruciating pain, but the genius gm it took a while for him to figure out there is an il list. But he will probably be on the il back again, he is so injury prone another terrible disaster by the lousy gm who need two more year of outrageous damage to the organization for some reason.

Today is another example in what would do you not bring up one of the three young starters to start this game. instead we have a bullpen game with kodai senga being the bulk guy when you have a tired bullpen to begin with another example this gm doesn't know what he is doing.

As for Minter he is available, I like your farm system a ton so I don't need your top guys as their are things that interest me in the teens in your farm system. Raley is good to. Pretty much anything not named devin williams is good in that bullpen for the most part.

[OMOLIVES]

Anyone out there watching the Buccos' game...ESPECIALLY this freak https://www.mlb.com/player/ryan-o-hearn-656811

As of now 3 home runs and 10 rbi's ..lol...lol.. insane!

[rocketeer357]

I'll take Minter. Honestly, there's not much else to get too excited about in Citi. I'm sure you're relieved to see Polanco's back though. Hopefully he can up that BA to over .200 before the next IL stint.

[SSKILLZ1]

Typical mets get a big 3 run homer from soto with the last out to take the lead. I guess big is not the right word when your season is done. but still get a emotional comeback homer in the 9th by soto.

And another great acquisition by the immortal gm devin williams implodes again, he almost imploded last night as well. the gm bats almost 1000 with his acquisitions on how terrible they are, but he should get the extra two years according to the owner, this is comical.

[SSKILLZ1]

As for the mets they almost were the first team since a team in 2000 to blow a 10-3 lead in the 9th yesterday. This team shows you time and time again how awful the gm builds things but his job is apparently safe for two more years. Wow. Mediocre play, if that is mediocre what is bad play? Because they have not played mediocre, in fact they have play horrifically bad all year and very consistent at being horrifically bad in my opinion.

[SSKILLZ1]

Question is are the brewers gonna be aggressive this year, they have the farm system to do it. If they add the right pieces, they might have a chance at winning it all this year. of course the dodgers are the prohibitive favorites, but that doesn't mean when your in the top 5-8 teams you shouldn't go for it. I mean there farm system is loaded they could give up a couple of guys and as much as I would like to trade you freddy peralta that is not the guy I'm talking about, why not go get skubal, you want to give yourself a chance to really win, put him and miz up against anyone and you have a decent shot as your 1+2 in my opinion.

[rocketeer357]

Coming up on the all star break it's never been clearer how much world cup soccer dwarfs every other sport going. Even with the Brewers 22 games over .500!

FIFA has definitely capitalized on tapping into a global audience but I don't think they did themselves or the game any favors by letting Trump bully them into overturning the Balogun red card.

Both NYC teams limping into the break. The Mets have never looked this bad, even in the revolving door GM days when Wilpon and family called the shots. And unlike a few teams that started slow and have played up to expectations (Phillies), the Mets have been consistent in their mediocre play. 2 for 1 tickets and free beer coming soon to Citi.

And the Yanks? Hopefully it's just a tough stretch, but it did seem like Goldy, Rice and Bellinger were playing at unsustainable levels based on past performance. And age. With Stanton and Judge out, this is a line-up that better hope the pitching keeps on winning games.

[SSKILLZ1]

Read the owner said sterns is staying for his 5 year contract. Have to say that really stings, I thought he might allude to him being safe next year but for the whole contract. i get nothing he said today is set in stone, but geez, what does this guy have to do to lose his job. Yikes.

[SSKILLZ1]

I'm not exactly breaking news here, somebody having a similar point of view, should be the overwhelming majority (Like 99.9%), I mean he terrible there is no debate, his philosophy, his moves, his press conferences, this is the worst GM of any team I root for I have ever seen, yes he is this bad, to have this kind of advantage to have a 370 million payroll and build this, he never should hold another job in baseball again for this. They should even ban him from fantasy baseball after this, ok now I'm getting absurd. But he stinks. He scream about defense, and the team he build has guy in wrong positions and sloppy as could be. he is an unmitigated disaster and anyone who doesn't see it is litlerally got no clue. it really is that simple. All is just my opinion of course.

[Eli's Gone]

Are you sure you don't write for The Times

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7398052/2026/06/26/mets-david-stearns-job-security/?unlocked_article_code=1.tFA.KOs6.IkL_JueJKMXn&source=athletic_user_shared_gift_article_copylink&smid=url-share-ta

[SSKILLZ1]

heck it could be worse you can see a guy try to beat his teammate in batter box with a bat because neither player is paying attention to each other. Mets are saving their bullpen so let use warren who has been in there till his arm falls off when he is leaking oil it is a 1 run game why not give yourself a shot instead wait for the guy to give it up, once again not on warren, this team doesn't care if they win games it is painfully obvious today with leaving warren out for another inning, and lindor not ph yesterday. This is the kind of complacency you see in a losing organization I guess I shouldn't be surprised at this point with much the errors the mistakes. but trying not to beat up your teammate with a bat in the batter's box that is a new low for them. LOL.

[Eli's Gone]

Yanks are 10 for their last 112 at the plate---good thing there are World Cup games to watch..

[SSKILLZ1]

Yeah but Milwaukee has been better without him, if they make the right moves here, they could win a WS this year. They are a long shot, but to be fair that is somewhere between the 4th and 6th choice in my world with their payroll right now. Look plenty of teams can buy guy in FA, as well as develop and trade you have to do all these things to build a successful team, the best part of this story has been the development with AJ Ewing and Carson Benge, Christian Scott, need to see a lot more from Nolan Mclean considering the expectation he has been a huge disappointment, having said all that he is still been a competent starter. I mean I would of liked to see more of Thornton but for some crazy reason he makes a great start and than they sent him back off to the minors he went 6 innings on just 78 pitches and because this organization preaches accountability I guess you send that guy back down, and keep tobias myers another acquisition that has been a disaster for sterns here.

Thing about this Don't trade for injury prone robert jr. Don't sign Polanco never played 1b, and is very injury prone. Don't trade for semien who was washed up. Keep Nimmo who had a career high in rbis last year, Resign Alonso he only drove in 126 last year and sign Ranger Suarez in addition to trading for peralta, and not fire the managers staff underneath him. This team might be over .500 and in a playoff race. The salary would of practically been the same. In a world coming down the stretch where you have 3 rookies making 60% of the staff one of which you traded away for peralta, in what world do you need just 1 starting pitcher. His ineptitude is off the charts.

Mets fans only hope is it gets so bad for sterns that the owner is practically gets forced to get rid of him, once again a longshot, but would love to see everyone chanting pete and some combo of fire stern when the o's come back in september that might be an environment the owner might not be able to overlook in his ballpark, because in my opinion those games the stadium will be far more packed than all summer, for the simple reason is the people will want to root on pete, he is also become the symbol of david sterns failure, along with sterns signing, to let a guy go who drives in 126, you have to be out of your mind.

As for leadership cora will not want this job, he will have much better choices. As for Beltran I think he is the best choice they will be able to get. as for mets leader ship with the way this guy turnover the roster what leadership, he changes like 35-40% of the roster every year, hard to build leader ship that way, but that is also part of his terrible strategy as well with the short-term deals, etc. All is just my opinion of course.

[rocketeer357]

Sadly I think you're right. Stearns ain't going nowhere. At least not this year. 
In Cohen's defence, LA has known nothing but success since plucking Friedman from Tampa. And while Stearns made some bad moves in Milwaukee, the Crew was always competitive under his guidance. And the staff working under him were excellent.
I don't buy the idea that he's a small market guy- honestly, the culture in LA has made it far and away the choice of A-list players from overseas and free agency. 
It's worth noting that Friedman took the reins in 2024 and didn't win a WS for 6 years (trash can banging not withstanding). Stearns definitely has tried to shortcut that 6 year time frame, and that's been at the heart of all the bad choices.
The Mets lack of clubhouse culture and leadership has been well documented. Putting a first time manager into the fire to try and fix that was flat out fantasy. IMO Cora would be a much better choice than Beltran to try and get the Mets moving in the right direction.

[Preciouslife1]

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[Preciouslife1]

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[SSKILLZ1]

Not saying mendy was great, in fact he should of been fired over a month ago to see if it could spark the team at this point it really doesn't matter that he fired him too little too late as they were buried when they did fire him. and forget the lousy roster for a second he did mendy no favors by firing his coaching staff underneath him and putting his guys in his place undermining the manager every step of the way. this is mostly on Sterns I am a believer he will not get fired next year as well as much as that makes me as a Mets fan hugely disappointed, I doubt they fire the gm into a potential lockout although they really should if the owner opened his eyes he would see a guy who can't be any worse at his job.

In a season where you miss the playoffs by 1 game last year with horrible pitching specifically sp, and great hitting your response, is to get rid of the hitters and keep the pitchers while increasing payroll. Furthermore you fire coaches like the 1b coach which led to a great sb % last year, they actually have more speed this year and they get caught a ton. How is that possible? If you are gonna bring back a manager, don't fire his entire picked coach staff underneath him and bring in your own guys. As much as I thought mendy got worse, a lot of that is thanks to David Strens setting him up to fail.

Every move this gm made in the off season, pretty much has backfired even freddy perlata has been disappointing, his trade deadline last year was a disaster, every move this guy makes is a disaster. He is horrible, and dreadful at his job, and what scares me is how much more damage will the genius be able to do before he is relieved of his duties. Because hiring this guy is the guy that sets your franchise back 5-10 years depending how much rope you give this guy. His evaluation that he didn't want to sign Pete for his defense, and his response is to sign a injury prone player who has never played the position to me shows you the insanity of the decision making here. who needs 35-40 homers and 126 rbis. Lets keep senga, david peterson, manaaea, not add enough sp, but spend absurdly everywhere else. This guy was a much better gm in Milwaukee because when he spends he spends absurdly, he is under the opinion of you give a 3 year of less deal you cannot over spend on a player to absurdness, which means your overpaying for mediocre at best roster. I go on record this guy doesn't know what he is doing in Milwaukee that was hidden because he wasn't allowed to do many JBJ, if he was everyone would of seen the horrific flaws of this gm. Not to mention he gives off like he thinks he is the smartest person in the room that would work if he actually was, but in what world where pretty much everybody in NY could of told him frankie montas on a 2/35 million deal is bad, but he thought he was smarter. spoiler alert. he is not. All is just my opinion of course.

[rocketeer357]

That one was a shock. Lindor has to PH on that situation if this is as competitive team looking to win. 
I think you're struck with Stearns. I've certainly not heard any acknowledgement from the guy that Mendy was his fault....a bit like Posey signing up his college manager for the Giants. A "smartest guy in the room pick" that, like most if those choices, never had a chance. 
Petersen sure looked good against the Crew in his first start the other day. Maybe he's feeling a bit more relaxed not that he's out of Citi.

[SSKILLZ1]

In a game you would think you want, have lindor on the bench, but will not use him no matter what including bases loaded down 5-4 with maurcio up with 1 out. showing us what a joke the mets organization has become in my opinion.

[SSKILLZ1]

why must they continue to keep going to a 2nd inning for myers he is lucky if he doesn't get destroyed the 1rst inning, new manager same results asleep at the wheel. outside of senga only bad bullpen arm out there. I guess they got their win should be good for a week I guess. shaking my head.

[SSKILLZ1]

They win a game so the response is to rest lindor, sit aj ewing, and start mark vientos because he is so good defensively at 1b, at 3b he should even be better at this point, wagaman at 1b, baty at 2b, they could get the same result by simply forfeiting the game. And Kodai Senga who should have been dfa'd a long time ago is gonna be pitching this game and your gonna blow out your entire bullpen. I get the season is over, but are they trying to tank for draft position.

Meanwhile david peterson pitches well in 1rst start with cubs. what a shocker.

[Preciouslife1]

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[SSKILLZ1]

Zack Thornton Pitches well for a start, and they send him down, shaking my head. Maybe the gm thought he pitched too well. maybe he didn't like that 78 pitches covered 6 innings, normally 78 pitches for the mets are lucky if they get through 4 innings. wow.

[SSKILLZ1]

Even when the mets play well they can't catch a break. That is why change the manager end result is they still lose on a positive note I liked what I seen from the young pitcher if they send him down because Kodai senga who has to be on this team for some reason for a roster spot, that would be insane. If he doesn't get a start in 5 days that is insane, equally insane is the next manager taking him out while he is coasting with less than 80 pitches, when is the madness with PC gonna end I get you don't want a guy to throw 125 every starter, but pretty soon why not just have 13 multi inning relivers on your team if you keep going. If a guy is pitching well and is under 80 why not let him continue I simply don't get it. All is just my opinion, and I could always be wrong though

[Preciouslife1]

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[Preciouslife1]

WHEW, WAY OVER THE FENCE ROBBERY!!! . . . .https://www.mlb.com/news/derek-hill-robs-juan-soto-of-home-run

[SSKILLZ1]

you have to figure he would get an more appealing job than this. especially if the gm is still here, I mean who would want that job. The gm is dreadful and I'm not even sure he is gonna get fired. The roster is awful and they have a ton of bad contracts on their roster, and the development of the minors has went horrible this year. Best case scenario Carlos Beltran, reality a much worse option is walking through the door. The manager doesn't matter until the gm is fired in reality in my opinion.

[Eli's Gone]

So who's next after Andy Green--Alex Cora?

[SSKILLZ1]

It is about time. Should of happened over a month ago, maybe that would of sparked the team. too late now, but as usual the gm doesn't do anything right. But if you want to watch a complete mess that is what mendy was in charge of, too be fair mr genius gave him the roster, that stinks. But that doesn't let mendy off the hook of one of the most sloppiest teams I have ever laid eyes on. And his answers after the end of games were hilarious, because he didn't have any and it was painfully obvious.

[SSKILLZ1]

I would of enjoyed the mets not constantly giving up unearned runs, and not being a complete joke this season (Especially when we were given absurd reason of why not to sign pete because of his defense and get to watch on a daily basis a guy who can't field the position and I keep saying pete would of made that play), but I really do feel for all Yankee fan who constantly make the playoffs, and perhaps have the best chance to win the WS in years, because I love your pitching and have been saying it for years, you see when you invest in pitching you can actually win, when you do what the mets do and bring back david peterson off an awful year, bring back Kodai Senga, and just run the pitching back that stunk for you last year, and think investing pitching is signing bad pitchers to short-term deals with big money like frankie montas, and that gut your offense that produced last year you get this. there is no reason to worry for the coasting yankees, and guess what Aaron Judge isn't even playing it doesn't matter the team is still excellent in perhaps one of the worst levels of competition in the AL I have ever seen, I have a hard time finding a team I like to beat you guys in the AL, can find it in the NL, but the AL absolutely not. Now that doesn't mean a team can't get hot at the right time (nature of baseball playoffs), which is why I think yankee fans are insane when they complain about making the playoffs every year, you put a good team in the playoffs every year and take your lottery ticket and get in, and hope it pays off. You know how that doesn't payoff when you have a 370 million payrolls and build a team that willn't make the playoffs and is one of the worst in the league, and quite frankly it is gonna be years before they build a winner with this gm running thing who is brutal at his job. Just brutal in my opinion.

[Eli's Gone]

down 3 we loaded the bases in the 9th vs Chapman---I would have enjoyed a big fly right there...

[SSKILLZ1]

Mets finished this game with another season high 14 left on base. this team is on a role, can't wait to see what they can do tomorrow. LOL.

[SSKILLZ1]

yeah you guys have the best team in the AL and have a good shot to win a ws I think you'll survive if this game which could easily still work out in your favor at some point, but even if it doesn't the yanks are by far the dominant team in the AL nothing to worry about if your a Yankee fan, they are gonna win 100 or close to it and am not convinced a team in the AL will win much more than 90 this year in my opinion not named the Yankees, who in my opinion have the best team they have had in years in my opinion.

[Eli's Gone]

not too thrilled with the Yanks in the field tonite either...3 Es including a catcher's interference on an 0-2 pitch---a pop fly that dropped between the pitcher and catcher---a DP ball right thru Rosario's 5 hole at 3B after he failed to catch a pop up foul off 3rd----all leading to a ton of extra pitches for Schlittler which led to 4 runs---plus a 200' "sac fly" to Caballero in LF whose throw was halfway up the 1b line...

[SSKILLZ1]

Well mets today were in a 0-0 game until they rectified that with 2 errors in an inning to allow 3 unearned runs so far. I have to give credit they have entered comical territory.

[SSKILLZ1]

Now here goes the trading, how many times does the gm get to tear this down and rebuild I don't trust this guy. David peterson gone, to be fair considering how he has pitched to get the cubs 13th best prospect for that is actually a good deal, but still I have the guy I want too see for both of these guys (Manager and GM) to be fair they are real hot names, but even the Mets I think can pull this one off.

Anyone But Him

[Eli's Gone]

6 errors on the IF---brutal

[SSKILLZ1]

I thought I have been watching lousy baseball all season apparently I was wrong, the 2nd game of the DH they committed 6 errors and I think the scorer could of given them 1 or two more to be honest. Glad the brilliant gm focused on defense in the offseason I don't think I seen a team play a sloppier game than I watched tonight and I have watched countless thousands of baseball games in my lifetime. shaking my head.

[SSKILLZ1]

Another lousy start by nolan Mclean, even he has been a huge disappointment this season, handed a 3-0 lead and give it right back and more. shaking my head.

[Eli's Gone]

Never saw this one before:

Pete Crow-Armstrong (PCA) was controversially ruled out at second base after attempting a steal during a walk. Because it was Ball 4, PCA was entitled to the base; however, after sliding into the bag, he briefly lost contact with it and was tagged

[SSKILLZ1]

Lindor activated for the 2nd game, and now soto is down, can soto and lindor stop tag teaming injuries it is getting comical at this point. Furthermore Kodai Senga to the bullpen. wrong. DFA him. He is done here. shaking my head.

[SSKILLZ1]

So let's say Cohen checks his bank book and decides it's time for your boy Stearns and his team to head for Anaheim. Who would you want to head up the Mets? And who would you want in the dugout?

Lets go with the answer anybody but them

Senga has got excellent stuff in the first inning he blows the cubs away using his fast ball and placing it he was throwing a ton of FB in at 98-99 mph. Than inexplicably throw a ton of secondary pitches in the 2nd inning when they couldn't hit his fb, gets behind and walks the ballpark, than makes a mistake because he has too pitch too a guy and there goes a homer. and before long your down 5-0 and down 7-0 and can't get out of the 4th. he cannot pitch again. I can't take the gm seriously anyways but after going on a speech that these guys are on evaluation and start to start if he pitches again my question will be what is he evaluating. Senga is a headcase (and made comments that he felt confident that he was gonna pitch well before this start, and that he thinks he has figured it out no less) and doesn't know how to pitch at this point, combined with where he just loses command at times, and can't throw a strike. I just can't watch anymore of him, for my sanity he need to be dfa'd. a guy with this kind of stuff shouldn't be this bad, I mean senga only gave up 3 hits and gave up 7 runs, there is something wrong with that picture it is calling walking the ballpark. He cannot make another start and take the gm serious after the press conference today with what he said, because to never to find the strike zone is a hard watch I rather watch a guy get hammered than constantly walk people and hit people like senga. All is just my opinion of course.