Angel Acquistion (AGEL)

[ironman53]

Are these guys THIEVES? What is with the DROP? Where are the PROMISED shares?

[ghcnj]

From the BHWF board. Yep just as expected. Dump and reverse split. Good luck.


Posted by: ghcnj
In reply to: ghcnj who wrote msg# 353 Date:3/22/2007 7:49:25 PM
Post #of 360

That is about 130 million additional shares dumped over about 115 trading days or 1.13 million shares dumped per day. I would be willing to bet if you do an analysis on PLMA you would see similar results. Just all IMO. Good luck.

[davidam]

bhwf dropped because their os went from 25m to 160m almost instantly, PLMA just took the cake going to over 500m

[davidam]

from the 10K
Indicate the number of shares outstanding of each of the registrant's classes of common stock as of March 15, 2007: 523,048,758 shares of common stock.

Ouch!

[canestsal]

Sub-prime lenders getting hammered, foreclosure market hot

PLMA is a prime foreclosure play with subprime lenders imploding. Over next week, PLMA will outperform market. Heads up.

[ironman53]

BHWF dropping. PLMA rising..money flowing out of one into another?

[run4coverfool]

Palomar Enterprises Increases Revenue 70% as the Foreclosure Market Heats Up
Tuesday March 20, 2:27 pm ET


CARLSBAD, Calif., March 20 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Palomar Enterprises (OTC Bulletin Board: PLMA - News) expects to record a 70% increase in revenue from first quarter, 2006 to first quarter, 2007. The increase in revenue is reflective of the shift in The Company's business model, to take advantage of the increasing Foreclosure Market. Palomar Enterprises is staying ahead of the real estate cycle by actively pursuing residential foreclosures throughout the United States, which can be purchased at 30% to 40% below market value. The Company increases the value of these homes by providing cosmetic improvements and in some cases, increasing the square footage of the property. These properties are then placed on the market and sold at a profit.
Palomar Enterprises is a licensed Real Estate Brokerage and Mortgage Lending Firm, specializing in Coastal Development Projects and the increasing Foreclosure Market. The Company is on pace to record the best year in its history, in terms of revenue growth and assets.

[wireliner]

news coming any minute now

[NewBroker1982]

I see no news. YET!!!! They are buying like crazy. I got in again today at.017 and this baby is rising again... Hold tight and enjoy the ride.

[ironman53]

I'm still in PLMA and wish the company would release some news soon. Hanging in..waiting...

[davidam]

Thanks Shortfloat good advice!

[shortfloat]

Scottrade was also like that I was told but I never had a problem with it, but I think it may have something to do with the brokers allowable margin? I'm told this usualy only occures on BB stocks. One thing I ment to mention in the last note, when looking at volume you also should look at block sizes in pennys, it reveals more. Today would be good example of this, there was 25 total trades in PLMA and 30 total in BHWF and yet the volume in PLMA today was higher. If you keep notes like I do, in the long run it gives you a better idea of whats going on and the size of shares being used to trade and whats left over and held long term if any. Its extra work and doesnt allways tell the truth but I like to get every advantage I can. Have a good night.

[davidam]

Same to you shortfloat best of luck. I dont fear a selloff on divies because the current market cap even adding in 10m shares is at least ( conservatively speaking) 5 times too low. I think most will be holding or buying bhwf so much to come. By the way I went to by PLMA today and ameritrade still wont allow any new positions to be taken. Do you know why? Sometimes I hate Ameritrade

[shortfloat]

Just remember the general rule of thumb, they usualy have a 50% retracement with a lower midday spike that will take it down 10 to 20% further. If your lowball bid is big enough, usualy the M&M will walk it down to fill your order as long as it is within those limits. This is the norm but of coarse news/events could turn it on a dime. Personaly, I would wait if things dont go your way in the next week till after the 28th when there probably will be some selling presure from the traders that will sell BHWF when they recieve it from the dividend. I do wonder if they will time the release of earnings till the 28th to prevent a selloff in BHWF, they do have a good PR campain going and these guys are smart. Best of Luck to you!

[davidam]

shortfloat-I agree that both PLMA and BHWF retraced on low volume with little selling. Both needed to
Especially BHWF. It was trading at 0.047 average volume of 350k over about 3/4 days drove it down to 0.025
and I can tell you a majority of that small volume was buying. PLMA average was about 6m during its retrace still low but point is BHWF went down on almost zero selling. any solid buying pressure its set to move past 0.05 almost instantly at this rate. we will see how long it takes to get moving again I hope a little while I need more shares
best of luck on both

[davidam]

I will stick buying bhwf although may add some plma. I want to have a boat load of bhwf shares when they bring maximum impact public. I also think BHWF will trade higher than plma consistently
gl on both!

[shortfloat]

My point is basicaly, If you were to have bought PLMA before the X date, you would also own BHWF, for free and therefore, your cash would grow faster no matter which one goes up more or less. So telling PLMA holders that they should have bought BHWF is like preaching to the choir, we did get BHWF as a bonus when we bought PLMA. As an owner of BHWF I am glad it trades higher for now but that isn't really whats going on. They are cycling up evenly, just not at the same time. They hit just about the exact same high within a week of each other and just might have a very close bottom price with one following the other, for now. But, PLMA did have extra selling presure due to the traders that just bought PLMA for the divi then sold so BHWF might not pull back as far. What you saw today with BHWF trades was very close to the same thing PLMA did as it cycled down, very few sellers but it still went down as it should have after a huge run. I'm not trying to say that one or the other will go higher, I don't have a crystal ball. They will grow at different rates so eventualy they will each go there own way with respect to the share prices. As long as I own PLMA, I will own more and more BHWF and wont pay a penny for it so why buy it, but it will be a part of my holdings and I hope it does well. One thing to keep in mind is when BHWF is recieved into PLMA share holders acct's, it might be seen as extra and sold off on the 28th and a few days after so dont be shaken out. I wont be selling because I agree that BHWF and PLMA has more than most are seeing but others might sell that just bought PLMA for the divi of BHWF shares and sold PLMA after the X date and will do the same with BHWF.

[davidam]

Good post but I seen other stocks trade much higher than the parent companies stock. Usually because they are the one bringing in the bread which is the case with bhwf. They have everything going for them. Actually more than most are seeing . But soon will. I seen doc trade consistently higher then its parent adsx for example

[shortfloat]

The price difference is most likely due to the market not understanding that ownership of PLMA is also ownership of BHWF. PLMA holders just got BHWF as a divi and will get more shares of BHWF every qtr. as a dividend. If Ironman held PLMA on the X-div date of the 6th, then he got shares of BHWF for free and will continue to recieve shares of BHWF every qtr paid as a dividend. The nice thing about getting the shares this way is the tax rate, he can sell BHWF without holding for the full yr. and still get the 15% rate of taxation. If he plans on holding PLMA long term, it is the one to own as other co's get spun off. This is per CEO...

- Shareholder value will be established by ownership of Palomar which in

turn, will lead to ownership in the publicly traded Subsidiary

Companies.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070226/lam006.html?.v=83

At this point, owning either co. will play out well in the long term as long as they can continue this rate of growth. After a few qtrs of proving this growth rate both co's will also get a high growth multiple. The risk can be high, but the reward in this type of incubator co is/can be the kinda thing that could make share holders wealthy. Traders that are aware of incubator co's look for just this sort of thing. All just my oppinion.

[davidam]

read the filings of bhwf and the filings of plma. thats why i bought bhwf

[shortfloat]

According to Scottrade, they are going to pay a divi but they still haven't gotten the date confirmed. I would imagine once all this is confirmed the market will see this co in a better light and it will move. Also, earnings should be out soon IF I am getting the right date for their last reporting. I would expect something soon as Palomar seems to be doing everything in their power to build shareholder value.

[ironman53]

PLMA down. Will this stock move up soon? I see BHWF is. Any news out about the share dividend? Thanks

[ironman53]

Nice article written==> QUALITYSTOCKS DAILY.NET on BHWF. I understand about the dividend(more or less), but what I don't understand is why BHWF is going up and PLMA is retracting. I would think that it would be the other way around, or PLMA(0.025) at least would be closer to BHWF'(0.04) price.

[NewBroker1982]

I believe its in part of the dividend. This stock took off with the announcement of the dividend. However the nasdaq still has nothing posted yet about any dividend beig out there. I have looked into many other stocks and everyone that gave a PR had it listed with nasdaq.

[ironman53]

BHWF .04 , yet PLMA is .028? Hope we at least finish at .03 Why is PLMA lagging behind, and BHWF is rising? Thanks.

[NewBroker1982]

I agree Bucky... I expect to see something today. However I am in this for the long haul. In the mean time hopefully I will get a chance to add shares.

[Buckey]

Date not set. Here is link to OTCBB.com.

I have yetto see a divvy issued thatw asnt on the daily list

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_search.asp?DirectSymbol=PLMA&OTCBB=True

[Buckey]

X date hasnt happened. nasdaq sets that date and its not set yet. REAGARDLESS of what company says

[NewBroker1982]

Very low volumn someone is driving the price down to buy more. Huge news yet again this morning this stock is a goldmine. If you can I think its safe to get more in the low 2's

Mike

[ironman53]

So, why do you think PLMA is falling? .025 this morning?

[NewBroker1982]

There has been so much confusion on this board. I believe all the dates that have been put are here are so others can buy your sell and gain market share. Remember to take the information from any board as advise use your own judgement to take action. I got in both PLMA and BHWF under a penny and couple weeks ago.Until I recieve word from etrade that I will be recieving my shares I am holding on. I may loose some profit, However I will hope the divided pays me good. There's also nothing in writing to say what the Dividend is for sure. All the PR said was 10 million being issued on a Pro-rata basis. Some people have said 1 bhwf for 5 plma and some have said 1 bhwf for every 100 plma. As of right now I will hold tight and hope for clearification today.

Mike

[ironman53]

Thank you "New Broker 1982" for replying to my inquiry. Bare with me, but do you mean that I can "sell" PLMA today for example and still "own" BHWF? I am a bit confused on that. Again..thank all of you who take a moment and share your knowledge with me.

[NewBroker1982]

Tommorrow is when you have to own the stock bye. You don't get the shares until the 28th I believe. You should be safe to sell them and still recieve the shares of BHWF. As for the price I see is rising again tommorrow. I expect it to double BHWF by week end.

[ironman53]

No comments on PLMA? What's up with this stock? A sudden rise and now a dip? Anyone have an opinion on whether PLMA will spike tomorrow, or wither? Is tomorrow(March 8) the day we get shares of BHWF? Will these shares appear in our accounts? I appreciate ANY and ALL answers.. Thanks$$

[diamonddavedc]

Agreed - I would like to reenter...but not here

GL

[squanderer]

DD...
And it obviously continues today to some degree. Wish it would drop like a rock so I can re-enter! Gotta be a reason for those huge sizes at the bid for ARCA and never showing up on the ask side. Hmmmm...

[diamonddavedc]

The sell off happens on the X date. It started towards the end of the day yesterday.

[squanderer]

Selloff after the X date which was yesterday I believe...

[NewBroker1982]

I see PLMA making a run back up. There wholly owned subsidiary is trading at a higher stock price at .033 and effective tommorrow they will be giving stock dividends of BHWF. I expect PLma to finish higher above BHWF which has great buyer power today.

[ironman53]

??? What's this BS with PLMA? It's dropping? Another SCAM?

[squanderer]

From the last PR...
Our shareholders deserve to own stock that is free from manipulation by entities that use the stock for their own gain. We have obtained our NOBO, (Non Objecting Beneficial Owner) and are in the process of an exhaustive process to account for every share issued of Palomar Stock. We believe that once the numbers are compared, it will show a significant short position in the stock.

Once this process is complete, we will take action against those responsible. We have a sound strategy in place that we believe will be a solution to the problem.

[squanderer]

ARCA appears to be sucking up a lot of shares for some reason. Huge size on the bid and no where to be seen on the ask side. Are they the short trying to cover? Is there something in the wind? Inquiring minds...

[Buckey]

NOT a clue on what is running these two.

and again there is no DIVVY yet.

I diont care what the Nrs say - the naz has not set the x date

[ironman53]

So exactly WHAT are we looking forward to tomorrow morning? Today PLMA ran fast , then pulled back after it reached 0.048. Does it appear to be back sliding or will PLMA again break out and pass the 0.05 mark? 11 million volume today. Any opinions on this? Also I watched BHWF explode up. Thanks for ANY insight on this.

[Buckey]

divvy not filed yet on otcbb.com

and record date means squat

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_search.asp?DirectSymbol=PLMA&OTCBB=True

[PENNIEStoSTACKS]

ECFL, PLMA, GMSC ***ALERT*** on this site yesterday.
http://www.stocktoolsforyou.com

[ironman53]

So, we looking at another up jump today, considering PLMA will issue their BHWF bonus shares on March 8th?

[marianothis]

woody,
whatever you(s) guys do I wish you the best of luck,
regards longs, buddy

[woody55]

Holy crap, I just read the PR and your are correct. I read the PR several weeks ago, don't know why the hell I got the 5th into my head instead of the 8th. I sold my half shares too soo. LOL...well it's actually not funny.

[conela77]

Where did you see March 5 as the record date? I was just reading the PR from Feb 26 and it says that the date of record is set for March 8. So how could people selling tomorrow still get the dividend? I'm new at this so maybe I'm missing something?