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Within the next 2 weeks if there's no settlement between Andrea and Apple does that mean a judge decides on the merits of the case or the merits of case and monetary awards/damages?
Actually a licensing agreement with Apple would be better, because that would lead on to Google, Amazon and others...... but that will never happen, because the legal team wants the buckets of shrimp, lobsters and oysters NOW!
If there is a settlement, I would only assume and expect ANDR lawyers to pressure the Doug Man to settle for the smallest amount, as long as the legal fee's and some peanuts for Doug (not shareholders) are in the deal.
We wont' know the amount of the settlement either, because that is supposedly confidential... Not sure why, but that's how it goes
I suspect any amount of a settlement between Apple and Andrea would surpass $14 million due to the fact the patent infringement is with the Iphone not Airpods. Would you agree? That assumes the PTO ruling is favorable to Andrea.
lets see.... looks like Koss and Apple settled their case for 14 million, related to patent infringement on ear buds.... 14 million is chicken feed for Apple... assume Koss didn't want to spend the legal fees for the next 8 years.
Expect PTO ruling within next two weeks.
Somebody obviously looking to get out of their position today. No news, no earnings report just high volume to the downside…. Lots of fills at the bid. Couple new products on the website.
Dog Days of summer are here...not much happening in Andreaworld these days....looking forward to the annual shareholders meeting at Melville Bowl-a-rama.... always a fun event..
Well the good thing about all this, is that all of the attorneys will be paid in full. I would guess that between Andrea and Apple legal team fees to date would be over 5 million..... Current market cap of ANDR is 1.5 million...... What is wrong with this picture....
Good question - based on history - this is in the legal proceedings section of 10Q -
The Federal Circuit held an oral argument on October 1, 2019. On February 7, 2020, the Federal Circuit issued its decisions on Apple’s appeals.The Federal Circuit affirmed the PTO’s findings in one of the ongoing IPRs. In the other ongoing IPR, the Federal Circuitpartly affirmed the PTO’s findings, but also partly vacated the PTO’s findings, and remanded the case back to the PTOfor further proceedings. On remand of the ongoing IPR, on October 28, 2020, the PTO found that claims 6-9 of the Company’sU.S. Patent No. 6,363,345 are invalid.
Based on that - could be 10 months or longer!
Have no idea how it will come out but at 2 and a 1/2 cents a share way more upside potential than downside
So the next episode in this on going Soap Opera is to have a ruling from the PTO? Any opinions on that, and how long that takes?
"Increase" is the operative word - that's certainly not a given.
Doesn't it really come down to this -
1. Apple waits out the PTO ruling - (and appeals again). It just keeps going on and on and on.
2. Apple settles before the PTO ruling with some sort of deal.
3. Apple waits out the PTO ruling, if its unfavorable and can't appeal settles with some sort of deal.
+85k is not a significant increase !!
What about the increase in product revenue???
10q says it all. Hardy any interest in Andrea products.
Yes, but good news travels fast :)
Normally between May 15 and May 31.
I think it will be after close today. Yippee ki-yay!!!
Imo, it will be a bad one ..... again !
Next 10q will be out within approx two weeks.
Real news would be a significant and structural increase in revenues/profits.
You may have new products and/or even innovative products. Its all worth sh*t as long as nobody is willing to buy them.
All imho!
I see a new product with axis technology on Andrea website more positive news
It means are ship has come in my man.....Happy Days are here again!!...we're gonna rock this share price like it's 1997 again!!!!
That's Troutman Pepper's press release - good for them doesn't tell me jack what it means for Andrea.
And even after two decades of Andrea misery some still keep the faith. It truly beats me.
I wanna see cold hard cash first. Some solid indisputable evidence that things indeed have changed for the better.
All imho !
I believe this could be reason someone took out 176K at closing yesterday. More to follow.
It's on their web site under Shareholder Info => News Center
https://andreaelectronics.com/
Where's Andrea's press release? Show me the money - "requesting monetary and injunctive relief"!!! Anytime in my lifetime?
Did anyone noticed that they place this news on their web site under shareholder update section?
Troutman Pepper Notches Federal Circuit Win for Andrea Electronics Corporation
Looks like Doug coin held up today..decent volume ..I think we are are looking at a ticker tape parade at the Melville bowling emporium sometime in June or July with a tailgate party and bbq
A little sizzle then a lot of fizzle but at least some hope
Hmmm, apparently huge trust issues among Andrea investors/traders. Hence the selloff, again !! Lost count of all the selloffs we have witnessed in the last decade.
Remember the story about the Bay, the empty one ? Still a possible outcome, imo !!
lol...thankgoodness I checked,lol
Well that was fun, for the 38 seconds it lasted
No doubt...Doug's probably working on PR right now......
We might see some news from company. Once it happen then sky is the limit.
I already did. Might add more based on opportunity.
No doubt...but we need you to buy a tad more....please slap the ask will you.
This can start to fly soon. We are looking for 100x return here based on win from Apple.
They must have gotton lots of $ since it multi billion $ company Apple.
No clue to be honest
How much did they win?
Is this what you are talking about?
https://www.troutman.com/insights/troutman-pepper-notches-federal-circuit-win-for-andrea-electronics-corporation.html#:~:text=Troutman%20Pepper%20Notches%20Federal%20Circuit%20Win%20for%20Andrea%20Electronics%20Corporation,-05.10.22&text=NEW%20YORK%20–%20Troutman%20Pepper%20has,microphones%20and%20noise%20reduction%20software.
Whats next ?
They either win the lawsuit, money gained is for Fortress and Doug.
Shareholders are left with an empty bag.
Or
They loose the lawsuit, in which case Fortress, Doug and shareholders are left holding an empty bag.
Ok thanks... so what is the next step.??.. I think they had a civil suit against Apple in the New York Courts pending the outcome of this.
Does that civil suit move ahead. I can't even imagine what this case has cost in legal and court fees. A civil suit with a jury would be a joke...imagine trying to explain these patents to Joe and Karen Sixpack.
What a F'd up system
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lol...I can't argue with you there....and think price reflects that sentiment also.
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