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don't play games and don't know where you're
going...
just saying that way too many folks think
country = government
it doesn't
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=37037602
you should NEVER hate your country
your government... might be another story
Tell you what....if you can define
as best you can what Is, Is, then
I will do my best to define country.
You first
Just using my time more for the
benefit of mankind and not something
that is such a bloody waste.
Vexari: Love the couch reference
and the tv. You're funny,
Abortion and religion?
Did not think you would answer,
that's fine. Actually, you
did answer the question, so
thanks
so please indulge me.
sorry briboy
get off the couch
turn off the tv
it's time for you
to start thinking for yourself
this subject to which you speak
does not belong in politics
it belongs in one's religion
try practicing
what you preach..
can not help anyone
that is unwilling
to help themselves..
This is crazy, unadulterated propaganda
driven by blindness.
Question: Are you Pro-Life or do you
believe in the woman's right to choose
to have the baby removed from her womb
prior to the babies first breath?
This is important, so please indulge
me.
It has just as much to do with 9/11 as
that garbage you post.
Briboy
The Conspiracy that the Government caused
it, or Terrorists? Please help me out with
that one.
THIS BOARD IS FOR THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE THE CONSPIRACY THEORY
but have no logical reason why..
Hey, Stupid!
By Hari Heath
Sometimes we just don't look at what is really going on around us. In many instances we become too immersed in the distractions of the world to pay attention. In other instances the realities of the world may be too painful for us to face head on.
This is no accident. Modern media, its allies in the entertainment industry and the indoctrination we received from the public education system combine to create many illusions in our collective national consciousness. By design, our “realities” have been molded for us to such an extent that many Americans exhibit one or more of the definitions of stupid indicated above.
These manufactured illusions perpetuate the mental entanglements that have come to inhibit our ability to exercise otherwise common sense. Our modern virtual reality, which objective reasoning would evidence as non-reality, has become reality for those who let others do their thinking for them. In short, stupidity has become a way of life for the masses who fail to look, learn and connect the dots of the “realities” which surround them. Nowhere is this more obvious than the U.S. government's current campaign which is best referred to as “Operation Enduring Stupidity,” a.k.a. the “War on Terrorism.”
Three of our prominent buildings were bombed with airliners last Sept. 11, killing thousands of people and laying a hush of terror across the world. This is arguably the most significant act of terrorism committed on American soil, but who really caused it? The “Osama was behind it” mantra has been blasted into our consciousness by an all points media. The government's mouthpieces have laid a grand scheme of blame but,
hey, stupid -- where's the evidence?
Ninety days after September 11, and two months after we began a billion-dollar-a-month military campaign in Afghanistan the first hint of “evidence” emerged. The government “discovered” a tape in an Afghani apartment which they claim “proves” Osama was behind the “attacks” of 9-11. How credible is this evidence? According to a CNN poll, one third of Americans think the tape is a fake. The administration first called their war in Afghanistan, Operation Infinite Justice. Why the name change?
Hey stupid -- justice is something that happens after the evidence is in.
We have been told and told and told that 19 Islamic hijackers took over the four aircraft used as bombs on 9-11. But the passenger manifests from the airlines didn't contain any Arabic passenger names. Not to worry. The FBI corrected this little problem. The FBI's passenger manifests conveniently have about a half dozen more people on each plane than the airline's manifests. But then, there is another little problem with the FBI's version of the story. Amazingly, within a couple of days, the FBI knew who all the hijackers were. Names, pictures, everything we needed to know about them. But they also said the hijackers used fake ID. The same names that the FBI used in their list identifying the hijackers were the names the FBI also claimed to be fake. Some of them were names of people known to be still living in Arab countries or known to have already been dead before 9-11.
Hey, stupid -- just how did the FBI figure out who these hijackers were so quickly when the physical evidence (their bodies) was well shredded and buried in mountains of rubble with hundreds or thousands of other human remains? How can the hijackers be both correctly identified and using fake ID's in the same name? Were there really any hijackers at all? Was there some other means to accomplish the control of those ill-fated flights? Is the whole story of the hijackers a concerted media spin effort to conceal the real people, and their goals, behind the terror of 9-11?
We must remember the historical conduct of our main source for our current information/misinformation. The FBI has been exposed for operating an evidence manufacturing laboratory which has been used to concoct evidence and fraudulently convict innocent Americans. The FBI is responsible for truckloads of lost or missing documents and countless bungled investigations, especially when the investigations begin to reveal that those within government are responsible for criminal activity. They continue to possess 22 high quality video surveillance tapes collected from cameras which recorded the Oklahoma City bombing. The FBI still refuses to release the tapes, even though the federal law enforcement agency has been court ordered to do so. Experience has shown the FBI can't be trusted with the truth.
Hey, stupid -- with the FBI's previous history of either manufacturing, falsifying or destroying evidence in critical, high profile cases, aren't these passenger manifest discrepancies, which led to the quick identification of the 19 alleged Arabic culprits of 9-11, a little suspicious?
We have been told over and over again that the Flight 93 passengers rushed the cockpit to wrestle control from the hijackers. Two facts leave a reasonable doubt as to the “official” explanation of what happened. One, the plane crashed and two, there was an eight mile long debris trail of Flight 93 parts across Pennsylvania. The all-knowing media has informed us that the passengers who rushed the cockpit, crashed the plane to prevent it from being used as a weapon. Hey, stupid -- what Americans in their right minds are going to intentionally crash a plane loaded with innocent people, including themselves? If they regained control enough to crash the plane why didn't they attempt to fly it to a safe landing? And what about the eight-mile long debris trail? This evidence, which was quickly covered up after being well reported on the first day of the event, leads us to the obvious conclusion that there was some kind of explosion which occurred in mid air. Was it a bomb carried on by the alleged hijackers? How did they get it past the airport security system that was already in place before 9-11? Was Flight 93 shot down by our own military? Why were the original reports of the debris trail covered up and replaced with the stories about “the heroes of Flight 93” who fought the terrorists?
Hey, stupid -- we are being lied to by the media and fed a line of patriotic baloney to conceal the real facts? Again? Still?
How did Pennsylvania's governor Tom Ridge get ushered in to his new position as the Homeland Defense Czar? Was he rewarded for his efforts to hush the shooting down of Flight 93 with his new federal position? And how was that position created? President Bush informed Congress during his “War Speech” that Governor Ridge was now a member of his cabinet and the new head of the Homeland Defense Agency. Where does Article Two of the Federal Constitution authorize the president to create such an agency? How can he fill the top post and add a cabinet member without “the advice and consent of the Senate?”
Hey, stupid -- are you beginning to see that the Constitution no longer has any real force and effect and we are now living under an administrative dictatorship?
Have you not seen this administrative dictatorship grow by leaps and bounds since 9-11 -- under the guise of homeland security?
Is there anything left, that is worth waving your flag over, as we march off to be administered through our bio-metric National ID cards in gulag Amerika?
Safety and security?
Try stupidity and ignorance of our nation's founding principles instead.
What rights do we have left?
If you knew what they were you would know that they are gone.
Have you ever read the Bill of Rights and understood the rights we are supposed to have with a government established under the Constitution?
Contrast those rights with what happens at a post 9-11 airport. When checking in for a commercial flight, can you speak freely at the metal detector? Don't say, “Hi, Jack,” even if you meet your friend Jack. Can you peaceably assemble with your family and friends at the boarding gate? Passengers only are allowed beyond the security gate. Can you bear arms to secure your free state while flying? Hijacking would hardly be possible if gun owners weren't so infringed. Is there any warrant or probable cause to search YOU, when you board your flight? You are automatically being treated as a criminal just for being there and a bureaucratically employed person will simply take any of your property that they consider contraband, without just compensation. Does placing your baggage on the X-ray conveyor, compel you to be a witness against yourself? Where did the presumption of innocence and the burden of evidence go? Out the constitutional window along with any opportunity for due process or the right to challenge your accuser in front of a jury. Has your basic right to travel been eliminated until you consent to the surrender of your liberties? Does the Constitution convey any power of government to compel the surrender of your rights? To what part of government can you effectively petition for a redress of grievances, now that your rights have been violated?
Hey, stupid -- don't wave your flag and talk about how our nation is great because it is founded on a Constitution which gives us so many rights and then go to the airport and surrender them, because you must, before you can fly around in the land of the free. Your precious Constitution and rights are gone.
And what about that billion-dollar-a-month operation going on over there in Afghanistan? How are we going to pay for America's New War and what are we going to use to pay for it -- good old American “dollars?”
Hey, stupid -- there aren't any “dollars” in circulation anymore. Not even any “notes” which can be redeemed in dollars. Our economy is nothing more than debts and promises traded for more debts and promises.
Dollars haven't been dollars since the 60s when the government ended silver certificates and silver coins. The “Federal Reserve Note” in your pocket is three lies rolled into one “bill.” A dollar bill that only promises more debt. They are not federal. It is a privately owned banking system that was fraudulently “chartered” by Congress in 1913. They have almost nothing in reserve. They loan out more than they have, with a fractional reserve scheme, keeping only a fraction in “reserve” to “cover” the day's transactions. In 1928 alone, the Federal Reserve Bank made loans, of the then gold backed dollar, to its member banks, in an amount that was six times the known gold supply of the world. Since 1933 when FDR banned gold as a medium of exchange to prevent the imminent run on the banks, there has been almost no substance to our national economy. With the end of silver based currency and coin in the 1960s the remaining substance to our economy was gone. That's the third lie -- the Federal Reserve Note isn't even a note. Legally, a note requires four things to be valid: There must be a payer, a payee, something to be paid and a time when it will be paid. A “dollar” note backed by silver and issued by a bank or the government (payer), pays to the bearer (payee) and amount of silver (something to be paid), on demand (time when it will be paid). Hey, stupid -- the “Federal Reserve Note” pays nothing, to no one, at any time. It's not even close to being money, in any real sense.
The media hyperventilators blow life into our fantastic elastic “monetary supply” with their daily reports of how the economy is going. The “economy” is created and maintained by the pundits who are paraded across our viewscreens and journals manifesting reality on the force of their say so. “Consumer confidence” is what makes the wheel of unreal money turn. Our fiat, or faith based economy exists solely on the “full faith and credit” of the American people.
Hey, stupid -- it's “faith,” because enough people continue to believe that unreality is real, so we can pass notes that really aren't even notes, between ourselves under the collective belief system that it is somehow money. And “credit,” because it was all borrowed from nothing but a mostly empty bank in the first place. So how are we going to pay for America's New War and all our new security apparatus with an economy based on nothing more than the stupidity that paper and ink and digital account balances have value? Hey, stupid -- we are perpetually indebted to a fraudulent economic system.
Doesn't the thought of such economic slavery make you sick? Especially if your life savings are stored in a banking system that can inflate or deflate the value of your account at will, through manufactured inflation and expansion of the “money supply.” Consider the implications of having your retirement based on a “dollar” that lost 92 percent of its purchasing power between 1933 and 1995, all while the “money” in circulation increased sixty-fold, nearly doubling every year. Hey, stupid -- just what did you plan to retire on?
Better not let those facts make you sick. Allopathic medicine has taken over and monopolized “health care” with its pharmaceutical administrations. Your chances aren't too good if you read the allopaths' own reports. According to the Journal of the American Medical Association (Lazarou, J., JAMA, April 15, 1998; 279: 1200-1205), an estimated 106,000 Americans die from adverse drug reactions (ADRs) every year. The study specifically excludes adverse drug events (ADE's) which include the improper administration of pharmaceuticals and their abuse. These estimated 106,000 deaths are the direct result of FDA-approved drugs properly administered. That simply is bad chemistry and a national tragedy. ADRs are the fourth leading cause of death in this country after heart disease, cancer and strokes -- according to the study published in JAMA. Hey, stupid -- do you really consider the health care benefits provided by your employer a “benefit” when more people die from adverse pharmaceutical chemistry than from all kinds of accidental deaths combined? Think about it.
Depending on the report, an estimated 7,600 to 17,000 people die every year in this country from stomach bleeding caused by aspirin. That's significantly more than the numbers of people who reportedly died in the terrorist events of 9-11. Hey, stupid -- why aren't we waging a national campaign to go after the Aspirin Terrorists? Wouldn't a billion of those “dollars” a month going to root out those Aspirin Terrorists save more lives than bombing caves and civilians in Afghanistan? Instead, Bayer just recently became a publicly traded company that profited $billions in the sale of the antibiotic Cipro in the wake of the post-9-11 anthrax scare. You can now invest your 401K in the Aspirin Terrorists. It might be a better hedge than, say, a “secure” investment like a Certificate of Deposit at your local Savings and Loan.
As Hitler said: “How fortunate for the governments which administer them that the people don't think.”
For all of our God given intelligence, humanity too often validates Rule Number One: People are stupid. And that often results in the imposition of Rule Number Two: Stupidity is its own punishment. It appears that Rule Number One has been with us for some time and will naturally continue to provide our own punishment. Look at all the happy people around you that are flying their flags, eager and willing to trade their liberties for a little temporary security. Soon they will be asked to march right up, one by one, so their retina scan and fingerprint can be digitally imposed on their National ID Card/drivers license. This of course, will make us all safer. And more secure. And the administrative dictatorship which has replaced our former constitutional republic will have new powers of which Hitler could only dream.
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20020214.htm
stupid: adj. [L. stupidus, fr. Stupere to be stupified.] 1. Wanting in understanding; in a state of stupor; stupefied. 2. Sluggish in understanding; slow witted; crassly foolish. 3. Resulting from, or showing mental dullness; foolish; witless; as a stupid book. -- Syn. Stolid, obtuse, doltish. See BLUNT -- Ant. Acute, keen, alert, bright, sharp, shrewd, intelligent. -- n. A stupid person. ~ Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 1947
"I also will never forgive the folks that plotted and carried out the plane attacks that day. I will never forget my 343 brothers or their 1500 fatherless children."
amen to that!!!
define "country" eom
can not deny the reality in numbers as they tell the story of this planet http://www.crystalinks.com/wtcmeta.html
God bless you and all the men who sacrifice their
lives for our country, America,...The United States of America,
still home of the free, cause of men like you and many others who put their lives on the line.
We take so much for granted here, and my family and I stop sometimes, pray, and give thanks for all the provisions God has given us..........we have all we need in Him, and tenfold.
What a country! It amazes me at those who live here and enjoy the fruits this country gives and yet hate its name.
Your a good man and a friend. Once a year I will post on the anniversary (I also got a huge tattoo on my right shoulder to remember my brothers right after it happened)
firemandave: you are welcome. Come post
here anytime. Yes, it gets lonely here sometime,
but it is a safe haven for the righteous.
thank you fireman....watching the coverage last night not only pissed me off again at what those bastards did but also reminded me that these conspiracy nuts ARE really nuts
Thanks to chunga and Briboy for creating and moderating this board. I don't post here as I will get permanently removed from IHUB as I cannot debate this subject without thinking of all of the innocent men,women, and children that perished this day 7 yrs ago. Whenever I start to have a quiet personal doubt about America I always think of how Americans like Todd Beamer and others rose to the occasion on 9/11. I also will never forgive the folks that plotted and carried out the plane attacks that day. I will never forget my 343 brothers or their 1500 fatherless children. God Bless America.
Elvis also predicted 9/11, and even
said the government caused it. He
even said, without knowing who would
be president, that is had something
to do with a Bush and Chain.
Wow, fascinating stuff.
Briboy
Texas Christian University
Home of "Slingin" Sammy Baugh and 2006/2007 NFL MVP LaDanian Tomlinson (LT)
The Truth 1:8
woofer: been meaning to thank you
on the compliment....."Brilliant"
hehe
Briboy
Brilliant, Briboy, absolutely brilliant......
I need to hate this country first,
then I might start believing our own government caused
two airplanes to fly into the Twin Towers in New York,
New York, on 9/11/01.
Check this out. Even the 9/11 Commissioners have their doubts:
http://www.911summary.com/
And you think that all these architects and engineers hate this country, and that's why they keep signing up?
http://www.ae911truth.org/
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I need to hate this country first,
then I might start believing our own government caused
two airplanes to fly into the Twin Towers in New York,
New York, on 9/11/01.
Briboy
hi barry, nice to hear from you. i think jesse is mistaken. i refuse to believe it was a set up. i need a rat first. show me some witnesses.........peace bro
hi chunga my friend, been busy for a while but wondering what you think or feel about this http://www.send2press.com/newswire/2008-04-0403-004.shtml
take care...........
barry
Creating legends in thier own minds.
hmmmmmmmmmmm maybe that other board is on to something..............NOT!
and damn proud of it!
you must work for the govt.
Okay...I did it....I planted the terrorist in the cockpits and put them on auto pilot. LOL!
Blasfimy if I ever heard it. LOL!
Welcome Da Chief. Simplicity exists
as well as Freedom. You have a place to opine here. No, I will not call you an idiot, or insult your intelligence, you can state your claim and be respected. We are Americans here, and not everything is a 'Conspiracy' I don't have to read every link about it to say 'you're wrong'
but, it does intrigue me and I respect the ability to say what you believe about it, and post whatever 'evidence' or 'facts' you have.
Briboy
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!
secret handshake
we have to keep it a secret....security ya know........
Do ai get a membership card?
your already a lifetime member
Oh heck....you guys are the anti-christ to the CT's! LMAO!
Where do I sign up at?
Flight 93 Movie on Cable TV last
night. This was a work of Non-Fiction, or The Truth.
There is a conspiracy that Flight 93 was shot down as well,
who is responsible: Likely some rich American white guy
briboy
Man, I didn't know Flight 93 was 'shot down'
It amazes me how it all ties in to the conspiracy,
I am flummoxed why our corrupt major news media
does not pick this up on the front page though?
Am sure the conspiracy emissaries like Pastor Wright and
his comments about the USA, his comments were all right on!
Once we get rid of the rich white guys, all will be well
in this country.
briboy
I just took some good advice and removed
the 9/11 boardmark. That will facilitate me not posting there.
Good luck with your board there, you really got something going there.
Also, thanks for taking my statements and always posting them on your posts.
briboy
you guys do know a lot to support your theory, but
there is no debate or healthy exchange......
Uhhhh, whose fault is that? Not once did you ever post something to support the government's story.
too, I'll stand by my previous statements, there are a lot of reasons why you guys think the way you do, and that is fine, I am just thankful I am not one of them.
The reasons why we think the way we do is because we did research. You claim to have done research but your posts have never indicated that you've done anything more than say that you have done research. If you actually did some research, you'd be able to say something, anything to support your beliefs. And for the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would claim that he's thankful that he doesn't think.
You are right, I waste your time, and should have never gone on that board, let's just leave it like that, and move on...
You have repeatedly said that you won't post on the 9/11 board anymore. In fact, you made that promise on the first or second day you started posting there (July of last year). Your word doesn't count for much.
Did you read the Gospel according to John, like we agreed.
Yes, and I told you this twice before.
woofer: You are absolutely right
but there is a reason why your board is so limited,
you guys do know a lot to support your theory, but
there is no debate or healthy exchange, it's more like a lecture, even if I knew more I would not go at it with you guys, you are on a mission, and it's not healthy, at least to me. I could go on, but then this post will be copied and I'll get a bunch of nasty PM's and personal attacks, which is fine, but like you said, wasted space.
too, I'll stand by my previous statements, there are a lot of reasons why you guys think the way you do, and that is fine, I am just thankful I am not one of them.
You are right, I waste your time, and should have never gone on that board, let's just leave it like that, and move on
It's been a good experience, I have read a lot and watched much of what you asked me to, I just don't think our government caused this...call me blind, or perhaps your evidence is not evidence at all, but blindness as well, to much more than 9/11. Did you read the Gospel according to John, like we agreed. I do hope at least you did that.
regards
briboy
Briboy, I reread many of your old posts today, and the underlying theme is that you don't want to really look at the facts presented to you. You would rather trust our government.
Although I disagree with easymoney101 on a number of major points, on this one, I agree.......
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=20986275
These were your two responses:
"I don't want more knowledge."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=20996582
"Sorry, don't need to read it..."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/replies.asp?msg=20986275
Stop pretending that you are interested in learning the facts. Anyone who really researched would know that there was major government involvement, and by that I mean that even if there weren't many players, the cover-up has involved many more. There is good reason for that though. Imagine if it was disclosed to the world at large that rogue members of our government carried off 9/11. The disclosure won't happen.
Every single week more architects and engineers have been joining this website which was started in 2006. I finally came to the realization that if every architect and engineer in the US signed up, it wouldn't matter. Nothing is going to be done about it.
http://www.ae911truth.org/
There will never be an independent investigation.
woofer: regarding engineering reports
One of the problems is relying on a particular engineering report and what they say.....your side goes with what makes this a non-terrorist attack.
Look, no big deal, but I used to be involved in insurance litigation, two reputable engineers on both side of the issues with two COMPLETELY different analysis of cause and origin.
The fact remains that ultimately one has to decide what they believe. Just my opinion, but I think, for the most part, there is more that goes into your sides decision that "just the facts" as you see it.
I respect your decision and what you think, what is the problem when I do not agree.....just because I have not looked at 100% of 'your facts'
So, the issue becomes whether you trust the government and our military, and our president. If you don't, the higher the percentage of doubt, the greater the degree that one will believe in a "conspiracy."
You have to be able to put two and two together, chunga.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?Message_id=24723484
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?Message_id=24338186
fire
chunga, I have to assume that your response is meant to be humorous.
disgruntled officers passed over for promotion
Maybe you should read their bios though........just in case you were serious.......
http://patriotsquestion911.com/Article%20Military%20Officers%20Challenge%20911.pdf
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