9-11 was not a hoax (truth)

[decouverte d Elbe]

Obama commemorates 9/11 with appeal for tolerance
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WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama appealed to an unsettled nation Saturday to honor the memory of the Sept. 11 attacks by hewing to the values of diversity and tolerance. "We will not sacrifice the liberties we cherish or hunker down behind walls of suspicion and mistrust," the president declared.

Speaking at the Pentagon, where nine years ago a hijacked plane smashed into the west side of the building and killed 184 people, Obama conjured a solemn remembrance of that horrible day but also spoke strongly in defense of religious freedom.

"As Americans we are not — and never will be — at war with Islam," the president said. "It was not a religion that attacked us that September day — it was al-Qaida, a sorry band of men which perverts religion."

His comments came on a Sept. 11 anniversary unlike others. In years past, the day was devoted to remembrances of the nearly 3,000 who died in jetliner attacks here, in New York City and in Pennsylvania, and to vows to serve in their honor and continue to pursue the terrorists behind the attacks.

This year, the common bonds rekindled by the memory of the attacks threaten to fray amid growing suspicion of Muslims in this country and controversies about a mosque planned near ground zero in New York and a pastor's threat to burn the Muslim holy book.

As Obama, joined by Defense Secretary Robert Gates, laid a wreath at the Pentagon memorial where American Airlines Flight 77 crashed, New York City braced for protests for and against the proposed Islamic cultural center.

Rev. Terry Jones called off his widely denounced plans to burn copies of the Quran, but damage was already done. In Kabul, Afghanistan, protesters set fire to tires in the streets and shouted "Death to America." Obama and Gates had warned that Jones' planned Quran burning threatened U.S. servicemembers and interests abroad.

Against that backdrop Obama spoke forcefully."The highest honor we can pay those we lost, indeed our greatest weapon in this ongoing war, is to do what our adversaries fear the most," the president said. "To stay true to who we are, as Americans; to renew our sense of common purpose; to say that we define the character of our country, and we will not let the acts of some small band of murderers who slaughter the innocent and cower in caves distort who we are."

Obama did not mention the New York City mosque, or the Florida pastor, but his message was clear. "We champion the rights of every American, including the right to worship as one chooses — as service members and civilians from many faiths do just steps from here, at the very spot where the terrorists struck this building," he said. The Pentagon houses a chapel where people of different religions can pray.

Obama also has sought to cast Sept. 11 as a day of service to others, and he participated himself by traveling to the Ronald H. Brown Middle School in northeast Washington to take part in Armed Services YMCA: Operation Kid Comfort. At the school, Obama helped paint a multipurpose room, and chatted with volunteers making quilts for children of deployed troops decorated with pictures of servicemembers.

First lady Michelle Obama appeared with Laura Bush in Shanksville, Pa., where the fourth plane crashed after passengers rushed the cockpit. Vice President Joe Biden and his wife, Jill, were in New York for the ceremony at ground zero.

The White House said Obama began the day by privately observing a moment of silence at 8:46, the time when the first plane crashed into the World Trade Center.

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Associated Press writer Natasha Metzler contributed to this report.


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[chunga1]

the way our govt acts makes it easy to believe

[Briboy]

Boy...this is still a hot issue. I got some

hateful private messages after my post.

Why is it that the other side can't disagree

civily. Some do, but others really struggle

with this, like it bothers them to know end

that we believe (like the majority) that

terrorist flew planes into the twin towers.

regards

[chunga1]

the white house refuses to use that dreaded word

[Briboy]

Can we all finally agree 9/11 was caused by

Terrorist. I am not even going to say Muslim so
I don't offend anyone, or the color of their skin,
for fear of being labeled a racist.

In fact, I am sure the word terrorist offends some,
and for that I am deeply sorry.

[toddao]

Murdered Barry Jennings Describes The Explosions

Barry Jennings - 9/11 WTC7 Full Uncut Interview - 1 of 2

[toddao]

World Trade Center on 9/11 - Sounds of Explosions

[Gastrodamas]

9-11 2001

[jawmoke]

"Please do not compare the death of war time
individuals with innocent life that has no
say in their decision of life."

where did you get that?

[Briboy]

There can be no comparison

just as you cannot compare an intruder into your
house about to harm your family and you have to
take him out.

Please do not compare the death of war time
individuals with innocent life that has no
say in their decision of life.

[jawmoke]

and I have no doubt that no matter how many times you watched
it and read about it that anything at all would sink in..

you think it is 100% false?

not likely...

it's probably not 100% correct either

do you think all of history has been recorded honestly?

see much honesty now? why would it have been different in the
past?

pro life or pro choice...
my personal belief is pro life... as you can not, imho, take a
strong stand for individual unalienable rights to life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness if you don't extend it to all
individuals... seems to me if they're human and they're not
dead, it applies..

[Briboy]

I have already watched this and read about

it several times.

What I find amazing is that you guys will

believe this stuff, but not Jesus Christ.

That is the fascinating part of it all,

you are trying to make more sense out of

paintings and writings on cave walls

thousands of years before Christ, and

make it believable.

Is it possible you are trying to debunk

Christianity? NO, not you!

Pro-Life, or Pro-Abortion?

[jawmoke]

[Briboy]

Thanks....I don't think they see it that

way,

They have the burden of proof, and so far
it has not been met.

[Briboy]

Here is the truth

Jesus Christ.....He is the Truth, the Whole Truth

and believe, me, Nothing but the Truth.

Put your Faith In Christ before anything else,

cause nothing else matters.

[Briboy]

Because it is not every day that
a large Boeing Airplane hits one
of the largest buildings in the
world x 2.

I have seen similar phenomena
whose intitial explanation appeared
plausible until other facts came to
light.

Look, if you are right, the Truth
will come out.......how many years
has it been now, going on eight...

I can see you with your 9/11 board
10 years from now, still plugging
away. Good luck

[Briboy]

Christianity is not a Religion

Religions were set up by Man
Man's doctines

That's one of the problems with 'Religions'

Just a child of God

Mr. copies my posts

later

[Briboy]

Blinded, bout all I can say to you

[Briboy]

I do all the time, so sure. What, am

I up against some expert on Life Beyond

this one?

[jawmoke]

sure you wanna go there. eom

[Vexari]

Is it just me?

that can not see..


This was not an inside job.

I am here to tell you flat out, that
you can hire any expert to say anything
you pay them to say.....so where is the
truth.

The bottom line is, we as a country
have to trust those we have paid
to do there jobs to do it..


It doesn't look good

for the home team..

[Vexari]

Christianity is not a religion?

interesting statement of denial

did you witness these things?


probably would have changed one's mind about 911 if you did


or would it have?

hmmmm..

[Vexari]

are you saying god cut the i beams?


what makes you believe

what you do?

[Briboy]

Sorry, but I am not part of any religion.

Christianity is not a religion, which is
established under man's laws and standards.

The Old Testament of the Bible contains the
Mosais Law, which was liberated (liberal,
there you go!) by Jesus Christ.

This is the only "Diety" that died, rose
again, and ascended into Heaven, and
was witnessed by.....

So, you either believe, or you don't

Which is it?

[Briboy]

Here is what I am saying

This was not an inside job. Yes, some
of what you call evidence...example:
the angle at which some of the I Beams
were cut upon alleged "Exposion"

I am here to tell you flat out, that
you can hire any expert to say anything
you pay them to say.....so where is the
truth.

The bottom line is, we as a country
have to trust those we have paid
to do there jobs to do it....find
the bad guy. I do not automatically
think "Conspiracy"

I promise you after the happened, there
were many of you (not saying you) that
we going in that direction.

Is this a perfect country....No. Would
you like to live somewhere else? I
wouldn't.

What insults me is that you think I have
to undertand everything you do...and guess
what, I don't. I can say what I am saying
and still not be an idiot. Can't I, or am
I a fool and and idiot because I do not
read all your stuff and come up with
something to debunk it.

I am much more interested in what is in
you mind, how you think and what you think
that what you call evidence.

[Vexari]

911 was a hoax

and it's spirit

will live on..


I do not die.

ok


My decaying body may be laid to rest

yes, in the dirt


but not my Spirit.

so, you don't have to take a shower?


do all religions exist solely to control the actions of people, by controlling their thoughts?

are all religions designed to erode the follower's connection to reality?

does the encoding of various belief structures make it easier to control that group?

can all religions be considered practicing sociocognitive warfare?

[Briboy]

huh?

What is that supposed to mean.

Death.......I think of it as Salvation

I do not die. My decaying body may be
laid to rest, but not my Spirit.

What do you think? Plausible, or not?

[Vexari]

why have life?

if all one can think about

is death..


one human life span

isn't enough?


waste not

want not..

[Vexari]

to what authority can one say?

I am here to tell you that there is no

Conspiracy.


how do people like you

define conspiracy?


not quite sure how one is using it..

[Briboy]

Well then, pick up The Truth, is

called a Bible. Let's talk Eternity?

This life is so temporal and like a
blink of the eye.

Have you ever thought about where
you go after you die, or are you
just returning to the dirt where
we once came?

[Briboy]

I am here to tell you that there is no

Conspiracy. Again, I do not need to
look over all of the facts as you see
them, although I have spent time on
it....

Look, I had not been on your board
for months, and I believe was responding
to someone's posts, that's all.

I do respect your right to say what
you want about it and have your board.

Anyway you can every once in a while
tolerate people like me on your board,
just for a change of pace?

Later

[Vexari]

then what are you doing here?

explaining this to me..

[jawmoke]

do you know anything about those things?
do you want to know? no, you don't

you may continue to bury your head in the sand

live a lie... that's doing something with your life?

not in my book... can't do that.. truth is too important

I believe in truth and honor

go back to sleep

[Briboy]

You don't get it....I play Backgammon

with her.

[Briboy]

jawmoke: He we go again. I know

something, and the "Have you ever

heard of" syndrome commences.

This is the problem. I do think for
myself. You guys are nothing more
than a wandering endless parade of
human debris, what a waste.

Do something with your life! Live
each day for Eternities sake,

Good luck

[jawmoke]

"Why in God's name would we want to kill our own people."

huh? what do you mean, WE?

thought you had done some research but that comment
tells me you are clueless and determined to stay
that way. Ever hear of Operation Northwoods, ever hear
the audio that the patsy for first world trade center
bombing made of his fbi handler, ever hear of Operation
Paperclip... Saddam Hussein? the guy we sold chemical
weapons to? How about Rumsfeld being involved in selling
the nuclear technology to the axis of evil, n. korea, then
months later being made sec. of defense

here's a little hint... it's not our government who is
in control...

you're living in a dream world courtesy of the rulers
of this world

we finance our own demise

[Vexari]

what is this game called?

seem to be missing something..


I would rather play Backgammon.

that would be less taxing

than spending more time with your daughter..

[Briboy]

You have played this game with me before

and I am not up for it. I would rather

play Backgammon.

[Briboy]

Why in God's name would we want to

kill our own people. You all who have
compared Mr. Bush to S. Hussein..well,
when I hear that, the conversation ends
it is so ridiculous.

Good luck with it all, but there is more
to life. If you are wrong, what a waste
it has been for you. If you are right,
which you are not, but what the heck, let's
for a second think you are, then let the
experts and lawyers who think they are right
handle it.

Passion is good, I feel that way about Abortion,
but I can have a direct impact on that, and
already have. What can you do about this...
rally America to your side?

[Vexari]

even if they know a lot about the
facts.

nothing you say is based in fact


I don't need to explain myself.

why not?


how about a debate?

let the audience decide..


briboy, what is your definition of conspiracy?

[Vexari]

faith is much more comforting

than truth

no time involved

at all..

[jawmoke]

some folks will believe damn near anything they hear

like everything alex jones says is true

or

19 arabs defeated the most sophisticated military on the planet

I believe neither and am quite sure vexari doesn't either

how about you?

[chunga1]

sweet response...well reasoned and on the point....tu briboy

[jawmoke]

then you now understand that believing 9/11 was an inside job
done by our own government in NO WAY requires you to hate your
country. In fact, just the opposite may be true.

if you DON'T love your country, then what does it matter if
the government did it

[FiremanDave]

Anytime...:)

[Crazy Money]

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[Crazy Money]

Thank you FiremanDave eom

[Briboy]

Good point, I agree with that

i.e. country is not same as government

[Briboy]

Sorry about that

Not smoking anything. I just don't
like the way you guys respond to
opiners.....as if we need to know
and understand Everything, and if
we don't, we are idiots.

That bugs me. Do you do a full
investigation on major crisis
that happens to this country.

For one, I have not the time,
and that does not mean I am
a frickin couch potato....

is insulting..

Then, you overwhelm your dissenters
with web sites. It is a well planned
path to frustrate anyone who disagrees,
even if they know a lot about the
facts.

I don't need to explain myself. In
fact, I do more than you guys. You
all never give opinions on what is
in your head...you only refer to
news articles. That is a sure fire
way to indoctinate someone into a
conspiratorial manifestation, especially
involving our government for God's
sake.

[Vexari]

what are you smoking?