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wrong again, you can structure a sale in many ways, most often it is the assets sold not the corporation, but that can be reversed and the corporation sold but none of the assets. It's really very simple.
But what is your point? The company lost $18,178,000 in 2000, and they probably did sell at least some stock to cover it. So what? It's still a loss which means there is nothing to recover.
ROTFLMAO can't rebut a thing I've said, now that's a sound strategy. Still planning on loading up at .001?
You're hopeless, sometimes I feel sorry for your major loss, but then you open your mouth and I laugh at it, anyone as clueless as you is just a mark waiting to be conned.
Nobody's listening to you.
Hate to be the one to tell you that when a company simply changes names all the liabilities and assets go along with it.
How could you not know that ?
And you still think that the $18 million plus wasn't derived from something like stock sales ?
PERIOD ENDING 31-Dec-02 31-Dec-01 31-Dec-00
Total Revenue - - -
Cost of Revenue - - -
Gross Profit - - -
Operating Expenses
Research Development - - -
Selling General and Administrative 556 311 18,178
Non Recurring - - -
Others - - -
Total Operating Expenses - - -
Operating Income or Loss (556) (311) (18,178)
Income from Continuing Operations
Total Other Income/Expenses Net - - -
Earnings Before Interest And Taxes (556) (311) (18,178)
Interest Expense - - -
Income Before Tax (556) (311) (18,178)
Income Tax Expense - - -
Minority Interest - - -
Net Income From Continuing Ops (556) (311) (18,178)
Non-recurring Events
Discontinued Operations - - -
Extraordinary Items - - -
Effect Of Accounting Changes - - -
Other Items - - -
Net Income (556) (311) (18,178)
Preferred Stock And Other Adjustments - - -
Net Income Applicable To Common Shares ($556) ($311) ($18,178)
Me think$ the Canadian Government think$ otherwi$e !
Based on what demand??? The ONE vet who is performing this procedure has done 6 from 2004 to May of 2008. $15K to $20K per procedure is prohibitively expensive.
And NOW the Univ. of North Carolina is performing the same or similar procedure. They are much closer to the heavily populated and high income northeast than Washington state. Not to mention a better reputation that WSU.
You've been wrong on every point for over a year, your streak cintinues...
Your wrong on that note also.
The people that this will be marketed to will not have the privilege of meeting your aquaintance or the stories you tell.
They
And the shares will sell and the money will flow.
The question is how many clinics go into service during this.
I say at least one in every state of the union.
Numbers in parenthesis mean a LOSS!!! Don't you know anything about basic accounting???
So this shell in 2000 had an operating loss of $18,178,000.00
A. you're looking at Bach-Hauser's income statement, ABVG NEVER filed one.
b. There is no relation between the operations of the THREE separate companies that have used this shell.
c. It's a LOSS!! So what are you looking for???
d. You're lack of knowledge and understanding is scary.
e. Your "investment" is exactly as secure as it was. That is to say built on sand with the tide coming in. There are no gold mines and you know it. You refuse to contact Gary because he will confirm it.
I still want to know where the $18,178,000.00 went.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=ABVG.PK&annual
And the mines have not been forgotten.
My investment is as secure as it ever was.
It's liquidity is highly questionable.
Kinda like Tony Papa's piece of the action.
Nope, now comes the private placement selling. Lot's of little old ladies talked into buying shares at a penny or a little more per share. It's for the doggies you know. Little do they know the pps can drop to 1/1000 of a penny. That's where it's heading. The pump will not be good enough to get this to .03, let alone .45 LOL
It's a very thin story, full of holes and wildly speculative projections.
you need to update your web page, you now have 38,000 shares of ABVG. Didn't I tell you your "investment" was wiped out when they raised the A/S? By the way,what did Gary say about the Gold mines??Inquiring minds want to know.
You are right about current shareholders getting the shaft.
The good news is that the stock promo should begin immediately.
Also,Due to the nature of the new business;The pps should make some hefty jumps.
I have personally took notice that when penny stocks are talked about at medical establishments that they go up.
And this one should certainly fit the bill as one to talk about.
The bad news is for people that bought during the year of Dan Ryan.
As you know there are quite a few people that paid in excess of .03 and now have to wait and hope for .45 to get even or buy more shares to average down.
This is far from over.
A certain Canadian whose name is Italian for "father" and his wife in tax court in Montreal today. Court records, ect . . . did anyone go?
It's official according to Nevada, Gary Berthold is now President of ABVG. So now you can ask him about the Gold mines lol, I think the shareholders just got the shaft...
https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=TH1NrCVuL4dWwIypFOgqrw%253d%253d
Well first of all I don't have a 'crew'. Second I have no idea why you keep bringing up this company. I'm talking about ABVG, the one that scammed you.
So tell me why none of your crew has entered into a similiar Us gorenment suit like the one brought against PLYPF .OB ?
If you guys were right,it is worth at least $150,000.00 punitive damages.
Ummm I'd rather not. You appear easily distracted and confused so it's probably best that I abstain from furthering your confusion...
Could you articulate a definition or not ?!?!
It's not a scam if you refuse to admit it? LOL
Some people just can't face reality. You and those like you are the reason pink sheet scammers are able to continue to do what the do.
"you would know the time has not come yet."
Of course it hasn't. Pink sheet scam's success is always around the corner...just out of reach, while insiders and those 'in the know' get rich overpaying themselves and dumping shares...in the mean time
Keep dangling that carrot of success...while the con artists live high on your lost money.
---'When you control what will be seen, you will be seen for what you truly are'---
ibreken
Define how I,you or anyone else has been scammed by ABVG over the past year ?If you understand the the concept,you would know the time has not come yet.
Just read it. Wow, that thing reads like you wrote it. What does this have to do with you getting scammed by ABVG and not doing anything about it?
No ? Saint Anthony
Did you even read past the title of PLYPF.OB August 27 news ?!?!
It has nothing to do with Class Action Suit.
It is so much better.
Tony?? OK ya got me. What do you mean by that? It's not my name or any alias I've ever used.
"I haven't lost anything because I have not sold."
haha, a classic. I'm not sure what you are blathering or confused about now. You do realize class action lawsuits have a class action period, and base your recovery on the lost value of the shares during that period whether you sell or not? You could still own every share the day the class action is settled and it matters nothing. "Triple times 0 actual damages is still 0." obviously doesn't apply. I thought you would know this.
You were scammed. Are you not taking 'action'? Clearly 'adults' take action. Are you not an adult? Selling shares is not the issue. You don't have to have sold to be scammed and lost money. Class action lawsuits see it the same way.
"I haven't lost anything because I have not sold."
is the way someone in denial looks at it. Especially when it comes to scams based on lies.
"I'm not the one that is using the whining techniques to gather up shares."
haha, thanks for that confirmation proving my point about deflecting the blame, 'bashing' to get cheapies theory...hilarious.
---'When you control what will be seen, you will be seen for what you truly are'---
ibreken
No Tony you did not.
I'm not the one that is using the whining techniques to gather up shares.Not to mention the other dribble .
I haven't lost anything because I have not sold.
Triple times 0 actual damages is still 0.
Watch the punitive damages multiply and then triple them .
The funds will be provided by the Crown and confiscated from the appropriate parties.Do you understand now why there has been a large desire by some to accumulate ?!?!
lol, popped your little bubble did I? So are you filing a lawsuit? You might want to try doing a little research first. You get all my research wrong when you try to transcribe it. :)
Have a nice day
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies...
Fleetwood Mac
So are you saying since there is no lawsuit against ABVG and Ryan you aren't an adult? You take it dry? Now I'm confused.
I'm assuming you are illustrating that adults take action (ie file lawsuits against companies etc) when scammed. You were scammed. Are you taking any real action or just more letters begging for them to come clean?
You must think the 'LONGS' on the Aurus board are really children. They just sit back and say to the company "Tell me lies...tell me sweet little lies" instead of taking any real action after being clearly scammed and lied to.
While I agree suing these con artists is the way to go, since most of these scams apparently have no law suits against them it certainly does say something about the mentality and heart of the scammed. No balls, they just try to deflect the blame on 'bashers' and shorts, so they don't have to admit they were scammed and look like fools. It really should be a psychological study....
---'When you control what will be seen, you will be seen for what you truly are'---
ibreken
I do see you keep harping over and over again that all the mining P
R's are lies.
If you look at the news for August 27,2008 for poly pacific(PLYPF.OB)you will see how adults handle things.
Get it TOOL !
By KELLY's recent posts and confused blathering it is becoming clear that he may or may not have had a nervous break down.
Be gentle nosaint. He may now be living in a total fantasy land, with asparagas pillows and swiss chard blankets.....
---'When you control what will be seen, you will be seen for what you truly are'---
ibreken
a 2004 report on Bach-Hauser, that seems to blow away your hope for the 2003 figures.
Investigative Reports
November 16 2004
Observers should not be surprised to learn that Bach-Hauser, Inc. (Pink Sheets: BHSR) has moved on, and apparently away from its futile bid to enter the motion picture and television business and acquire a company that specializes in producing films using computer generated images – like Pixar, perhaps. That might have been an impossible mission, even for The Incredibles.
As with the Company's previously announced business plans – a waste disposal operation, software development, and the sale of pre-fabricated homes – there is nothing to suggest that the movie venture ever evolved past the wishing and hoping stage, to a point where it was likely to produce meaningful revenues.
But, as StockPatrol.com readers have seen, Bach-Hauser has never been about revenues. From all appearances, this Company is all about issuing, and registering, stock. The Company's principal activity over the past several years has been issuing shares, filing S-8 Registration Statements, and compensating employees and consultants with generous share allocations. See Update: Bach-Hauser, Inc. – Another Day, Another S-8; Update: Bach-Hauser, Inc. - Still Doing Their Thing; Update: Bach-Hauser, Inc. - Plan C: Keep Issuing Stock; Update: Bach-Hauser, Inc. - Faceless And Nameless; Update: Bach-Hauser, Inc. - Double For Nothing; Bach Hauser - A Haus Full Of Consultants; Bach-Hauser, Inc. - The First Thing We Do, Let's Give Stock To All The Lawyers; Update: Bach-Hauser, Inc. - Everyone Makes Misteaks; and Update: Bach-Hauser, Inc. - They're Bach!; Update: Bach-Hauser, Inc. - No Stopping This Thriller.
The Company's financial condition has been a model of consistency – with no revenues and barely any assets. According to its Form 10-Q financial statement for the second quarter of 2004, as of June 30, 2004, Bach-Hauser had $4,500 in "intangible assets," $124,613 in "film assets" and nothing else. Despite its evident failure to establish meaningful operations, the Company insisted that it was determined to enter the film industry by securing an interest in a computer generated imaging business. Determination, unfortunately, will only take you so far.
In this case, it seems that the determination waned quickly. On October 20, 2004, Bach-Hauser signaled another change of direction, announcing that it had signed a letter of intent to acquire DM2 Technology, a private company specializing in the sale of Point of Sale (POS) equipment and software to handle bank card and credit card payments. Bach-Hauser said that DM2 has approximately 150 sales agents and 1,000 terminals in Canada.
On November 11th, Bach-Hauser issued a press release saying it had concluded the deal, acquiring DM2 in exchange for "stock and equity." Bach-Hauser also revealed that it would be changing its name, seeking to regain its OTC Bulletin Board listing, and ultimately "taking the necessary steps to qualify for small cap NASDAQ listing."
The Company will have to take quite a few steps before it qualifies for NASDAQ – giant steps – since its financial statements fall woefully short of the listing requirements. Before it can qualify for NASDAQ listing, the Company would have to satisfy quantitative standards, including stockholders equity and net asset thresholds that currently appear far out of reach since the Company has no cash and no revenues. It also would have to meet qualitative requirements that include independent directors and a proper audit committee.
The November 11th press release provided few details about the acquisition. A Form 8-K filed by Bach-Hauser with the SEC on November 12th, provided considerably more information, including the substantial price Bach-Hauser had agreed to pay. It revealed that Bach-Hauser would acquire 100% of DM2's outstanding shares from an individual named Martin Grenier, and to assume up to $120,000 of DM2's liabilities, in exchange for 10 million shares of Bach-Hauser stock and a promissory note for $1 million.
The deal is scheduled to close in early December 2004. While the acquisition agreement asserts that Bach-Hauser has received DM2's recent financial statements, and the Form 8-K implies that DM2's financial reports are "Exhibits," no financial information for DM2 was included with the Form 8-K filing. Consequently, there is no way for investors to determine what value Bach-Hauser has received in exchange for 10 million shares and $1 million, or what the DM2 balance sheets show, other than those $120,000 in liabilities.
Bach-Hauser offered further information on November 15, 2004, when it announced that DM2 had entered into an agreement to provide point of sale equipment to handle credit card payments for an entity called Taxi Diamond located in Quebec, Canada. The press release did not disclose the terms of that arrangement or any financial details – although it claims that DM2 is on a pace to have over 5,700 terminals placed by the end of 2004.
Does this mean Bach-Hauser is finally poised to acquire an operating business? Based upon the Company's earlier announcements, the road from agreement to closing can be rocky. And questions remain concerning the value of DM2 and its financial condition. Those concerns are not likely to be resolved until the Company produces audited financial information for the acquisition.
No story about Bach-Hauser would seem complete without news of a Form S-8 stock offering. The timing of the DM2 comes closely on the heels of the Company's latest Form S-8 filing. On October 5th, Bach-Hauser filed a Form S-8 registering 19 million shares of stock for the Bach Hauser, Inc. Stock Plan. The Company did not say who would be receiving those shares – although Bach-Hauser reserved the right to hand them out to directors, officers, employees, consultants and advisors.
The announcement also came just days after Bach-Hauser filed an Information Statement with the SEC declaring plans to increase the Company's authorized common stock from 41,666,667 shares to 300,000,000 shares and to create 50 million shares of preferred stock.
Although Bach-Hauser did not define the rights of the new preferred shares, the Company reserved the right to establish virtually any terms, including those governing conversion of preferred stock and voting rights. Consequently, it is conceivable that each share of preferred stock will be convertible into many shares of common stock, and will be granted extraordinary voting rights – effectively giving preferred shareholders the ability to control all corporate decisions. (nosaint's note - thats EXACTLY what I've been saying about the preferred shares in ABVG)
In a further move that consolidates power in the hands of the controlling stockholders – and consequently removes it from the hands of public investors, - the Company also declared that it was amending its Articles of Incorporation to elect not to be governed by (i) sections 78.411 through 78.444, and sections 78.2055 and 78.207of the Nevada Revised Statutes.
This amendment has considerable consequences for the Company's public shareholders. Sections 78.411 through 78.444 of the Nevada Revised Statutes are designed to protect small shareholders. They limit, and in some instances prohibit the Company from entering into transactions with its controlling stockholders. Mergers, consolidations, reclassifications of shares, and the issuance of substantial blocks of stock all would fall under the restrictions imposed by these sections – except where, as here, the Company opts out of these obligations.
That's right. Nevada has adopted provisions to protect the public from a handful of individuals who may run roughshod over a company – and then given those individuals the ability to duck the statute.
Sections 78.2055 and 78.207 of the Nevada Revised Statutes also are designed to protect investors – severely curtailing the Company's ability to reduce the holdings of small shareholders, and proceed to reissue the same shares, again and again. The Nevada statute requires a company to receive approval from a majority of shareholders if it wishes to increase or reduce the number of outstanding shares (as it would in the case of a stock split or a reverse stock split) without a corresponding increase or reduction to the number of authorized shares.
Here again, the protection of the Statute is largely illusory since the company, acting through the individuals in control, can opt out of this obligation.
Is it any wonder that television networks recently had so much trouble deciding which way Nevada voters swung?
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I have no idea what "financial PR" you might be refering to. Gary Berthold has put out one PR that I am aware of. Please provide a link.
In any case, it's totally immaterial. In 2003, this shell was operating as Bach-Hauser. Any financial statements would be refering to that operation. What don't you understand??
ABVG came into existance in jan. of 2007. It never issued any financial statements, it never claimed any income, it only made completely unsubstantiated claims about owning mining property.
There is no proof or suggestion that these former "assets" still exit, except of course in your world. Berthold seems to have admitted to LRB that their are no gold mines. Why don't you call him and see what he has to say? Afraid he might tell you something you don't want to hear?
The hyperlink in the recent ABVG financial P
R directed my browser to a 2003 financial statement.
Do you remember the financial statement that listed $16,000,000.00 + in income ?If I remember correctly ,your rebuttal was that they must have derived that income from selling stock.
Nevertheless,What was that income used for if all the mining deals were none existing ? I'm telling you that no one is that careless with shuffling around money of that size.
Mining claims and real property deeds can more easily be transfered.
All the PR'd claims of ABVG ownership could easily been a secondary agreement with the title holders of the properties.
More than likely insiders.
Trust me,the Canadian government is all over this.
The increase in OS is likely a further attempt at getting back all the shares for when the assets are returned,willingly or not.
I don't have time for these trivial matters at this time.
Good luck at trying to keep your nose clean.
I've got to ask, WHAT did you misread that lead you to think that Gary PR'd ANYTHING about past financials????
and the only "evidence" for your gold mines is the statement of a liar, who is associated with criminals. I think in this case, the absence of evidence of existance speaks clearly. There are no gold mines, there never were. Feel free to call Gary, lil red did, it seems LRB got the impression that the gold mines were fiction.
Stop flattering yourself on post 18838
If I was stalking you,you would know I am not a she.
And as far as you proving there was no mines.
Your lack of ability to gather evidence does not prove anything other than your lack of evidence.
I have been busy landing contracts.
This aspargus plant is going to take time.
Funny how Gary pr'd an old financial and it was not the $16,000,000.00+ income one.
Some things cannot be buried.
But you would know that being the super slueth that you are.
I have to get busy on Federal repairs.
Chow Baby !
Is this number current for Tony, (514)288-8883?
DOS
For $400 I could put out a PR with any company name I want.
You seen the coverage I got using my company name with ABV Gold in title.
I'm waiting for change in corporate officers list to happen.
Until then it is not official enough for me.
Mr. Berthold is certainly acting as if he is the president of ABVG. Putting out PR's and all. I think you should redirect your questions to him. Danny boy has flown the coop.
I would love to see you get an accounting, but I think your chances are slim to none(and slim's in Texas) There are no gold assets, there never were.
Don't forget the SEC's complaint form. It might be most closely related to a garbage can, but there is a slight chance they would give a d###
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies...
Fleetwood Mac
I have a picture of you and would have known you if you had dropped by.
DOS
That written statement you talk of could be used to update Officers list in Nevada .One does not have to wait for due date.
I think it funny all the posters saying that the mining is out.
Those assets still have to be answered for.
scammed perhaps, but perfectly legal.
i should know....;)
hey, i dropped by your shop in the last month. remember me?
yikes i actually know someone running a pump and dump!
A valid point perhaps, but they didn't change the name of the shell to accomodate him. And as I said, a written statement in the minutes of the corporation would stand up in court. Besides you don't have to list all of the directors, so it's entirely possible that he was for awhile a legal director. It's also entirely possible that the PR stating he was a director was a lie. With the crew running this shell, I really can't make the argument that their PR's are truthful.
Remember that Enzo was pr'd as a director and he did not make the list even when it was updated.
As far as Nevada is concerned you are absolutely correct, I basically pointed the same thing out last night on the ABVG board. But the name change does lead me to believe that this is more than just lip service. A simple entry in the minutes of the corporation naming Mr. Berthold as the president is probably all that is required in a court. The list of officers is not due until 9-30-2008, at that time, assuming they bother to file, I would expect to see the changes reflected.
My guess is that everyone may as well consider ABV Gold history. I would further assume that Mr. Berthold is indeed the new president of the corporation, or the new front man as I prefer.
At this point, I'm not sure how much control Danny boy ever really had. Those new class B shares of stock make me very suspicious that Amyot/Papa/(?)Ryan(?) are still in control of this shell.
At this point pharmacom Biovet of Nevada (formerly ABV Gold) is still 100 % in control by Dan Ryan.
There has been no officers changed.
The way things have gone the past year.
It still may be lip service.
If the officer change does occur,I will be contacting Gary to get answers about some of the other deals touted by Dan.
Wow, I go out of town for a few days to come back and the Board is on Fire.
Let's see. We go from: " may not be in the correct order "
1)A topic of underwear. Not even going to touch that one. Weird to say the least??
2)Laser lights, a Trinket Store?? " They call me Soap Man " counting, "how many Leafs are on a Tree", WHAT ?? I have seen on TV the spread of Meth Labs thru the upper northern states slowly spreading to the east. Perfect place to cook up some Soap, I guess??? If thats the new term??
3)Yes, a person would have to be Brain Dead to put their Name on a message Board. The obcession of wanting to know a persons real name. Scary!!
4) "Trees", a term used sometime back for smoking pot, however, I think the kids still call it a "Blunt" I think a little something " stronger " than pot is causing the rambling ". Hallucinogenics, are known to cause, periods of Psychosis, as are not staying on your Meds. However the ZZ Top look sure fits the profile.
5) I guess with the right " Medication " on board, or lack there of, and Laser light shows in the Trees one could really get into counting just how many Thousands of Leafs "are" on a Tree. Glad I never expierenced those types of people in person.
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