OmniaLuo Inc fka OLOU

[Renee]

OLOU: one for 1,100,000 Reverse Split cashing out fractional shares at $0.06; Going Private

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=11/26/2012&mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB

[kimzerfantastik]

OLOU ~ 15-12G received 03/29/12,
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/OLOU/financials

.02...015X.02, -67% today@close

[Nikodemos]

3 months later I think we have our answer as far as how the market
values this stock, still watching though. Looking for a signal
& good entry as I continue to research the company.

Any updates anyone cares to share? TIA

[Nikodemos]

ok thanks for the honesty. I hope it wasn't me that pissed you
off on a stock you were invested in. If it was I apologize in
advance...

PS- I am not an investor here, just looking for new opp's is all.

Take care,
Niko

[jeffn]

i have no idea if it is undervalued. like i said, i got carried away in my last post. it was probably one of them deals based on the unspoken rule of ihub, you piss me off enough by posting negatively about a stock i own, i will return the favor. one thing i do find interesting here is that their auditor is located in australia. not sure if the company's operations are going on there, but if they are, this may be a good one. the chinese have made a big investment down under from what i understand. jmo

[Nikodemos]

Oh no, believe me I get it & understand fully. There has to be
a reason for the apparent inefficiency particularly with this
stock so the question becomes simple, is this a(n):

Undervalued stock that will eventually find it's proper valuation?

OR

Perfectly valued, as is (for whatever reason)!


I don't see how a determination can be made that it ISN'T undervalued according to the information we have, & hence my
question to you; namely, how do you know? On another note, there
is also no compelling reason to take risk here & BUY, yet!!

However, this stock does go on the watchlist imv & we follow how
it goes. GL2U.

[jeffn]

i may have went a little far with my opinion in that post. many traders just have little confidence in these chinese companies trading in u.s. markets. here is a post that may help explain what i am talking about:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/replies.aspx?msg=64437017

most chinese companies trading on u.s. markets trade at a much lower P/E than american companies. that's just the way it is. you may see it as very undervalued, and you may 100% correct, but if the rest of the market doesn't agree, it just isn't gonna move up. jmo

[Nikodemos]

How do you know this?... curious-- if your claim is factual & how
you would know? Have a quick look at the 2008 expectations, where
the price was for this stock, & this authors comments:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/92860-omnialuo-wants-to-be-the-chinese-ralph-lauren

Pay particular attention to his OTHER RECOMMENDATION & take
specific note about how that investment fared:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=61767364

Now, according to PS the Market Cap for this stock is ~1Mill$'s:
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/OLOU/company-info
which is nothing for a company that has 115 retail locations
generating a profit with over 8Mill$'s in gross revenues in a
superb market with incredible potential.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=7937529

If these reports are to be believed then the stock is severly
undervalued & has not met it's expectations:
http://vimeo.com/1877484

...but is still growing & showing positive momentum. BUT why is the
market valuing the stock at $0.05 when in 2008 it was trading
at around $1.20-$1.45...

So, I want to know how you came to your conclusion. Is this an
investment opportunity for a severely beaten, relatively unknown
equity or are some people going to die from having committed
securities fraud? Or, at least, if it is legit, why the beaten
up price?


Thoughts, anyone?

[levelnever]

When you don't present any OLOU DD to the board besides making a sensationalist statement, I do accuse you of not doing the DD. How exactly would I know that you did your DD otherwise? Look, you know people can't see through your eyes what you are seeing. As far as I'm concerned when people make blanket statements on boards like this, such as this stock is a scam, then they have an obligation to investors to explain why. Especially on Ihub where we are only known by many as our screen names and we do our due diligence in as untrustworthy an environment as penny stocks. So, why should I take anyone's word for anything in this environment? Do you? The only thing that speaks to me is data and evidence, not people's opinions. There are certainly a few trustworthy people I have grown to listen to, but it has taken years of earning that trust. If people don't present any DD and simply throw out key words like scam or on the flip side, they say big move coming with no DD, there is no difference between that person and other suspect penny players who operate on rumor and conjecture, without evidence.

Sfly, you have done very good DD in the past, but occasionally you throw out unsubstantiated zingers like you have here without presenting your case. If you want to be respected as a solid DD'er then back up your comments with more evidence than all Chinese stocks are scams. Personally, I do not see any proof for your scam comments with regards to OLOU, show me what you are seeing and it at least gives me something to look at and work off of. I say this as someone who is all about getting to the bottom of the story without sensationalism.

[Plague]

Name two pieces of evidence for OLOU being a chinese scam stock. Just two.

[Superfly15]

I'll also note I am one of the riskier investors out there, but this is beyond risk.

[Superfly15]

Accuse me of not doing my dd? If you believe this isn't a scam you clearly have not done your dd yourself level, you should know better. Have you not noticed lately that every single Chinese stock, even bidu and sina have been trading like a scam (and just may be one)? if you want to buy this it's up to you, not my portfolio, but I view it as throwing money into the toilet. I'd rather buy for 50c and know ts not a scam.

[levelnever]

No investors watching it IMO and also retailers who shout "another Chinese scam stock" without providing proper DD to back up claim certainly doesn't help interest. In a thinly traded stock, with the spread that it has, up 80% and down 80% in a day is not unusual, so citing that as evidence it is a scam is pretty poor IMO. You should know better than that by now Sfly.

At .02 I don't see any justifiable reason for it to fall any further especially with an OS less than 30 mil, unless other news comes to light. On a macro view, it is my thought that if the European debt crisis builds further and the US markets and European markets take more of a dive as a result, that much like the drop a couple years ago some investors eyes may look to China once again and realize that the broad claims that Chinese stocks are scams are incorrect. While some are, there may be diamonds in the rough as well. Just an FYI, I have yet to take a position, I continue to look at quarterlies and watch for any behind the scenes news. We will see, but certainly at this low PPS it is not a bad gamble.

[levelnever]

Jeff, I am all for that, if you can show me the proof or provide evidence that this is likely, I operate on DD, not pure speculation and looking at the financial statements for PPS, the internal structure of the company, the low float and high inside ownership at this level and it catches my interest. I have looked at for year and a half now and have yet to see any proof that this is the case and the only person who has mentioned that is Sfly, who likewise has not shown why. I don't operate based on fear on the one hand or wild exuberance on the other. Statements that people throw around without DD to back up their claims don't mean much as far as I'm concerned. Generally from what I have seen on a basic level Cosmo doesn't give out designer of the year awards to scam companies, but that's just me.

Here is an interesting take from James Altschuler posted today, out of the box thinker that he is:

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thisisinsane/2011/06/20/its-china-not-greece-stupid/

We'll see if this applies to OLOU as well. As I've said many times before time will tell, there is no one pushing this stock and only a few investors following at moment, so let's see, the wave of accusations of "chinese scam" has been justified in times over the past couple years, but I see no strong proof yet to justify that here. People lumping together every Chinese company may be providing a good buying opportunity for some of them in the year ahead. We'll see, either way all for DD whichever way it goes, but not for blanket statements without proof.

[Plague]

Not to mention they took part in a New York fashion show which you can google and see their clothing, popular event too. Can't scam quality clothing.

[Plague]

Check out the website, you can't fake stores like that. Check them up with chinese google too. Locations check out. Real stores.

[jeffn]

just another chinese scam company.

[Superfly15]

Well...its down another 80% since I posted that, so I will stick to what I said. lol

[levelnever]

Yeah, that along with her presence in past at NY Fashion week and award in 2008 from Cosmopolitan Magazine tells me she has legitimate products that the industry has taken notice of. Also, unlike many of the other scams I have seen, she has not increased the share count, no dilution, appears to be paying for things (making loans) when necessary out of her own pocket and bank loans. Has not been using equity financing at moment to build company. May have something to do with the fact that she owns 29% of the OS and her sister owns 23% of the OS. Either way, we'll see.

[Plague]

My bid is at .03, their website allows English users to buy, so that's a great sign of legitimacy

[levelnever]

Basically defrauded Chinese investors, they don't mess around when they end up going after CEO's over there. Definetly a little harsher than the treatment Wall Streeters get. Imagine CEO's getting death penalty here for defrauding investors. That would change things :)

http://template2.lawsuitnews.info/2011/04/23/death-sentence-fraud-illegal-corporate-fund-raising-lost-political-rights/

That said with regards to OLOU, I believe they may be one of the legit ones and doing things the right way, time will tell, will continue to watch the quarterlies, I think at that .02 bid price definetly keeping my eye on it.

[Plague]

http://www.omnialuo.com.cn/

does that look like a scam?

Looks pretty legit

[Plague]

Death?! Holy crap what did they do?

[levelnever]

As for CYXI, that other company they mentioned in that article, very sad story with that one, been non reporting for over a year and yes bad things happened. Company executives including Chairwoman were sentenced to death.

[levelnever]

I have been following this company for a year and a half and have been careful for just this reason. There is nothing that says scam to me here at all, unless you want to lump every China stock into being one big scam, and that's a whole issue on its own. If you want to believe that its a scam that's your right, but I don't DD stocks if I believe that is the case. Show me where you see that with specific facts and DD, that is how I base all my investment decisions, not on broad unsubstantiated claims. If you can show me something besides saying China, I'm all ears, otherwise I ain't buying it.

I believe the fear of Chinese stocks overall is so prevalent now, some for good reason, that being the contrarian it may be a good time to invest in some of those companies that are legit. So far this one appears that way to me. I still do not have a position, but if the companies balance sheet continues in the direction its going and the china fear subsides, this is one I believe that could move in the next year. There is no denying if you have followed the balance sheets over the last two years that there has been a turnaround.

[Superfly15]

First glance they look like another China scam to me...how would we even know if their numbers are correct?

http://seekingalpha.com/article/92860-omnialuo-wants-to-be-the-chinese-ralph-lauren

These guys are 10c now and the other one that the author was telling people to look at is trading at less than a penny. Oops lol

[levelnever]

OLOU 10-K is out, in doing the numbers they had an outstanding Q4, the turnaround is underway IMO, will post more on it when I get a chance. Will be looking to take a long-term position here as funds allow. The best thing about this unknown play, they have not diluted shareholders at all to get funds and the CEO and management have ~58% of the O/S. The CEO only pays herself $36,000 a year, she will only really be making good money if there is a rise in the PPS.

[levelnever]

This is one to keep an eye on in the next couple days as the 10-K is expected to be out soon. Last quarter saw a very nice turnaround in their numbers and a profit again. We'll see if the 10-K provides any additional indications or signs of a continued resurgence.

[levelnever]

Yeah, can't do a DD post on em all. I actually thought there would be one more dip here before the move, I should have paid more attention to that heavy loading at the beginning of the year.

[BlackThought]

lol so many distractions in the penny market

[levelnever]

I don't know if anybody else is even following this, but has had a great move this past few days. Up a couple hundred percent from that .15.

[levelnever]

delisting from OTCBB last week and did not see them at Beijing Fashion Week, a bit unusual.

[levelnever]

big time loading.

[levelnever]

a diamond in the rough? Chinese women's apparel stock with potential.

[levelnever]

wow, sudden rush of volume coming in, watching now.

[levelnever]

Anyone know what happened here? Is this company still alive?

[bell345]

Same here: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=13503

[carl405040]

No figuring this one. Great news and a major decline. Also, talk about an unknown stock!

[carl405040]

A very quiet board and little volume and small os. But can anybody here explain these wild large stock price swings. Looks like a good buy but with such small volume may never be able to sell.