High Wire Networks Inc (HWNI)

[ragi]

MVTG, I have been invested with Mantra for years. I communicated with Larry at the get-go and found an upstanding individual with consistant long term development ideas. He has continued down this road, at times distracted by offers from other companies to be involved, only to find out they wanted the technology folded into their companies for next to nothing. Mantra is now aligned with several companies in the orbit of spin off commercial viability production.These companies, especially the european ones do not think in terms of weeks, they tend to look at developing new technology in years and even decades. At this time Mantra has a respected position with what they bring to the table, now it just requires patience for the well thought out development of technologies. Happy to have a fair chunk of change parked with mantra. I am patient with forward moves, and see the value in keeping under the radar as this could be disruptive to several hard playing industries out there.

[junkHustler]

Yep. Not even one fathomable reason MVTG wont be the next Alstom.

Pilot plant? Who needs one. Really.

LOL

So much knowledge, yet so little perspective.

GLTA

[Ecomike]

Frankly, short of a black swan event, no I do not see any reasons MVTG would not be able to move forward on many fronts this year. All the ducks are lined up now at MVTG.

[mlb4nd]

thanks for all the information you post and giving your insight into this investment..you certainly make a compelling argument!

Is there one particular thing that you see as the biggest obstacle to MVTG's success...other than a stock market crash or depression?

[kas11]

I agree it is hard to get people to look at penny stocks, I never had any doubts about MVTG because larry and john always keep me informed and kudos to them because most penny excecutives don't even answer there phone, this is not a penny stock in my mind and they will prove it, MVTG is a well run company with no BS with a game changer technology with multi billion dollar companys involved its a no brainer I agree, just has to play out stuff like this takes time when you have something MVTG has.

[Ecomike]

It is very hard to get people to look at stock investments period, after the 2008/2009 mess. Even harder to get people to look at penny stocks, even MVTG.

In my case I have 40 years of chemical engineering, hands on engineering, consulting, and stock market experience behind me, and 25 years of patent experience behind me, issued patents in my name as the inventor, US DOE Grants, business start ups I started, and I know the MVTG Inventor, the MVTG technology, the markets, vehicles ( I personally keep a fleet of 1980s jeeps running, I do all my own repairs and rebuilding, engines, transmissions, all of it, so I am a hands on practical engineer ). I know organic fuel chemistry, been investing since 1980, and I know the target markets MVTG is focused on because I started out in 1974 as a straight commission sales engineer calling on every single manufacturing and service repair company in Texas/Loisianna.

So buying all the MVTG shares I can at these prices at this point in time is just a no brainer for me. Very few people have the overall picture, and knowledge I have that is guiding my MVTG investment. So I try to share and explain it bit by bit to those who want to know more. I also have the scars of many failed investments that help narrow my focus away from from risky scams or possible scams, or even wallstreet banksteer pump and dumps even when they are a billion dollar IPO.....

[kas11]

I am here ecomike,just rolled out of bed sounds like its going to get exciting wish some of my family and friends would listen to me they think I am nuts and going to lose all my money I invested, I will have last laugh I figure.

[Ecomike]

Is any one here today, and ready to learn the latest about MVTG's planned take over of the transportation fuel and transportation drive train markets?

[Ecomike]

MVTG board followers is now at 122, up almost daily now, 1/day.

[kas11]

I don't know about the rest of you guys but I keep thinking about that last PR about the advancements eliminating the barriers especially the expensive PEM membrane that's gotta get a lot of attention I know ALSTOM has got to be excited how about the rest of the industry. I guess we wait and find out TICK TOCK!

[Logger2]

That is a great post ... Thanks

[Ecomike]

MVTG chart #1 is shaping up nicely. More charts on MVTG are here in the intro, they are live 24/7 MVTG charts.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/Ecomikes-Favorite-stock-picks-and-Stock-DD-topics-26971/

[Ecomike]

We have a new MVTG board follower, now 121 and rising.

[Ecomike]

This post is now a sticky sir, coongrats!!!

[Ecomike]

I can think of no better commercial development partner/customer than Alstom that MVTG could have landed. The CEO of MVTG pulled off a major Coup landing these deals with Alstom, there is NO DENYING that.

Alstom already does business with Ballard!!!!! They manage a euro funded, Europe demo of Ballard fuel cells in buses in Europe right now. So it takes little imagination to see an MVTG-Ballard-Alstom working together soon with a BMW or Tesla to bring the new MVTG fuel cells to market. Also the guy that worked for MVTG in 2012 came from Tekion, which he started up in a 5 million dollar funded deal with Motorola in 2008, after a long stent at Ballard. He had major automotive industry experience from his days at Ballard when Ballard was deeply involved with early Detroit efforts to put Ballard fuel cells in cars. Tekion was working on a formic acid fuel cell for cell phones, but they still used a PEM-membrane, which MVTG eliminated in the issued patent technology.

The PEM-membrane costs more than a gas engine folks!!!! Eliminating the need for it is a huge cost reduction that kept fuel cells out of cars for decades.

[Ecomike]

That is correct.

"Keep in mind that any new discoveries between Alstom and Mantra will be delayed PR'rd until reviewed by a board set up in the ALSTOM/MANTRA Agreement."

PR's will also be delayed until provisional patents have been written, rewritten, examined by the lawyers on both sides, and filed with the patent offices world wide.

"Also looking forward to contacts with other companies and MFRC and ERC technologies"

I assume you mean a deal with BMW-Ballard-MVTG-Alstom to commercialize the fuel cell?

[Ecomike]

MVTG has several subsidiary firms, one is in the LED light business, imports from Korea and sales in BC Canada.

Early, small time revenue was from there.

Last quarter's $148,000 gross profit from revenue was all from Alstom, with Alstom as a customer paying MVTG to do research as listed in the last 8-K filled with the SEC.

The results of that R&D is owned by Alstom, but where the results improve the market potential of the MVTG ERC reactor that MVTG owns the patent on, MVTG gets the benefit of the improvements from the research in the market value of the issued MVTG-ERC patent.

Provisions have been made, negotiated and listed in the contracts and 8-K for cross licensing between Alstom and MVTG of the research results that come out of the R&D Alstom is paying MVTG to do in the MVTG lab.

I can think of no better sign of what Alstom thinks of MVTG than to see Alstom paying MVTG a profitable fee, $148,000 the first 3 months (more will be in the next 10-Q) for doing R&D on existing MVTG patented technology to create improvements to the technology that will likely generate additional patents.

Most MVTG shares are tightly held by people like me that know and have met the CEO, know and have met Professor Colin Oloman, and the other PhDs in the lab. And they have also been to the lab and see the technology. Some have have even dinned with guy at Lafarge that is working with MVTG to deploy the technology at the Lafarge cement plant. The CEO does not waist money on pump and dump PRs that do nothing for the stock price long term. Also MVTG had a contract limitation with Alstom that does not allow MVTG to PR the news about the Alstom deal. But the Alstom-MVTG deal is documented in the SEC 8-K filing as required by law.

MVTG is in many ways nothing like the other 99.9% of penny stocks, because it is not a scam.

The MVTG business model is to collect revenue from patent licenses, not from making and selling the product. That is why the MVTG deals with Lafarge (customer) and Alstom (a massive existing designer, builder, installer and marketing world wide of sister technology to MVTG.....Google what all Alstom does and where they do it, Power plants, power grids, electronic control packages, transportation, Ballard fuel cells in Europe, they design and build nuclear, solar and wind power plants...in 100 countries, with 93,000 employees, and 22 billion Euros in annual sales last time I looked)

The business model is based on making say a dime on every gallon of Formic acid manufactured from CO2. That model does not require MVTG to manufacture anything. It just requires a customer like Lafarge and customer/distributor/builder licensee like Alstom to take the technology to market.

[eiddle]

ALSTOM is probably the best company in the world that Mantra could have a work agreement with to bring ERC and MFRC technologies and its many applications to commercialization. GLTA

[eiddle]

I too, appreciate different opinions. I find your post to be 99% accurate if not 100% unbiased evaluation of MANTRA. Well Done. There will always be "IF's" involved as Mantra moves forward as they have been. Keep in mind that any new discoveries between Alstom and Mantra will be delayed PR'rd until reviewed by a board set up in the ALSTOM/MANTRA Agreement. Also looking forward to contacts with other companies and MFRC and ERC technologies

[Gantor50]

I actually encourage anybody coming to this board to go back and read all of the critical posts on MVTG. I did before I bought a single share of MVTG. I think they do have some value. From my reading JunkHustler and Teron seem to be the most vocal critics here. Personally, I think the arguments critics make should always be carefully examined and weighed. Because sometimes the critics are right. So read their comments and make your own choice.

In essence here are high points from critics that I got or read in various responses (summarized)...

Their (basic) position is that MVTG is pretty much a fraud. A fraud in the sense that it primarily exists as a profit vehicle for the owner. Every contract or working relationship that MVTG has, is due to some form of corporate charity (in the case of Lafarge or Alstom) or (I guess) these partners are somehow all being fooled by the technology themselves and the owner of MVTG.

That is where they lose me.

So let's dig a little deeper here. Somehow, worthless or fake technology, that doesn't have any real commercial value has kept Lafarge around for years, Alstom around for many months now...with Alstom actually paying MVTG money? It has the University of BC fully opened up to MVTG, and has PhD grad students going to work for MVTG after they leave school? Also, technology that doesn't really exist or has no value had MVTG working with Kemira, Powertech, and BC Research?

Does that make sense to you?

And to stress the BC connection, you now have tenured professors and a department lead at the University of BC touting MVTG technology in peer reviewed journals. You also have professors from Japan excited about the MFRC and willing to allow their own names to be included in those journals. For what reason theses men would jeopardize their own personal reputations? For technology that has no merit or value?

Does that make sense to you?

There is also the repeated argument that MVTG needs money and will eventually need to dilute (massively) the current shareholders. I can't say for sure whether that will happen or not. It might. It might not. This is a penny stock, so never say never. However, if MVTG hasn't really diluted OS in the past 5+ years, during periods that were far worse for the company, why would they do that now?

Does that make sense to you?

I don't know if MVTG will succeed or fail in the end, but for a technology company at this stage, I have yet to read a criticism that exposes it as a fraud or can legitimately deny the technology, or answer why MVTG has so many major companies interested in working with them to further develop ERC...and now MFRC.

I am not urging anyone to buy this stock. I have personally taken a position, but it is money I can afford to lose if things go badly. I think this company is still a major binary event away from true share price appreciation. If that binary event doesn't happen the share price will never go anywhere IMO. So don't buy this stock unless you believe it has a chance to totally change the fuel cell industry. (When I say binary event I am talking completion of ERC Pilot Plant, partnership deal related to MFRC, etc, etc).

I am quite familiar with biotech companies, that is my background, and MVTG is sitting in a similar pattern. 2014 seems to be lining up to be a key year in the companies lifecycle. If they are legit, we should see additional revenue on the next 10Q. We should also see some additional announcements and developments related to the MFRC technology.

If an announcement comes this year where a major company partners with MVTG for MFRC technology, that will go a long way to suggesting the true potential prospects for the company.

We'll see.

[Gantor50]

That is pretty much the same comment you made JH in Post #18692 when you were implying there wouldn't be any revenue reported at all.

And what does "Tick Tock" mean for a company that is almost 7 years old? The term implies something major in imminent. In this case you are suggesting bad news. If you do know something bad coming soon please share it with all of us. If you care enough to come here and post, and you are actually sincere, why wouldn't you want to save some people potential pain and suffering?

[Gantor50]

It is my understanding that the revenues are from the contract with Alstom (as outlined in the 8K), who is helping fund the ERC pilot plant development with MVTG. In that sense, it seems to me to be properly classified as technology development revenue. Not product revenue. If the ERC pilot plant completes successfully, that would/should/hopefully result in eventual product revenues.

And the revenue reported was related to ERC, not MFRC. We'll see what 2014 brings on the MFRC front. The MFRC was really why I invested anything in MVTG.

I am not here arguing that MVTG will ultimately succeed, but I do think there is a logical explanation for the revenues, and how they were reported.

[junkHustler]

"Technoloy Revenues."

Whatever that is.

Tick tock MVTG.

[swiamca]

The impression come from lack of clarity from what kind of activity this money comes from.
Revenue
" Technology development revenues" sounds to me like creative accounting.

I mean 99.9% otc stocks never make 1$. Here we have a firm that has 150K and nothing? No news?

Why would you divide revenue it 2 categories?

All prior rev came from cat.2 or product revenue. (Which is revenue I find more appealing.)

The Company has yet to acquire commercially exploitable energy related technology, has not generated significant revenues since inception, and is unlikely to generate earnings in the immediate or foreseeable future

[Dough Theory]

Gantor50,

I can't private reply to you, anyway I deleted the message myself because I didn't think it was suitable for discussion at this time.

[Gantor50]

JH,

I have asked you a few times, please share the "real dirt" if you have it. If you care enough about potential investors to post your teaser comment...then why not provide all the details you seem to have? What is the real dirt?

If you have the ability to help and educate potential investors, by all means, please do.

[Gantor50]

I think skepticism of any investment is healthy. I say bring it and let's discuss it.

I read the article mentioning Larry's background before I personally bought a single share of MVTG. I don't know the guy and I am not here to turn him into some saint. But I do know that since before 2009 that MVTG has remained the same company, under the same ticker symbol, has been fully reporting, has basically kept a tight lid on the number of OS, and to the best of my DD, has never run a cheesy pump and dump the way many pennies do. If he has, I can't find any digital record or proof of it over the last 5 years. I think that is pretty impressive.

I own a boatload of shares of ADXS, a biotech company that I still have incredibly high hopes for, and a biotech that I think is vastly undervalued relative to their pipeline compared to INO...and yet I wish ADXS had run their business and controlled their OS half as good as MVTG has the last 5-6 years. Some seriously questionable decisions by the CEO who was recently replaced.

That would be impressive enough for any OTCBB stock, but then add in the fact that MVTG has the backing of an entire Science and Technology department at University of BC, has partnerships with Lafarge and Alstom, and other reputable companies, and is starting to get mentioned in major trade journals for their MFRC technology.

Also, while some of the critics of MVTG basically all but swore that MVTG would not post any revenue in the 1Q (I followed all the posts back and forth between the Bears and the Bulls), they did post revenue. And it was not an insignificant amount for a company with such a tiny MC. Way too early to declare victory of course, but a positive step in the right direction by any objective measure.

So let's talk about it. If there are other questions, concerns, or if there is hidden dirt out there, let's share it openly and publically. I am not afraid of scrutiny. I like it.

I haven't been out to BC personally yet, but I will get it scheduled.

[Dough Theory]

[junkHustler]

The shady history of Larry has been brought up many times much to the chagrin of shareholders.

There are many false idols lurking.

The DD on MVTG here is very skewed in my opinion.

Keep digging to see the real dirt.

GLTA

[Ecomike]

If I had a ranch to sell I would sell it and buy MVTG. Never in 60 years have I seen a better opportunity.

[kas11]

I am gonna try, my rental property is going up for sale march 1st tenants are a pain in the butt, I have lots of shares now but when I see an opportunity like MVTG I go for it not like 99% of the people I know there all conservative, emotions get in there way its to bad but that's how most of us are built not me SELL THE BLEEDING FARM!!!!!!

[Ecomike]

MVTG followers is still ticking higher here, now 120

[Ecomike]

So you are going to buy all the shares left under a $1 now?

Please leave me a few

[kas11]

I take that back I will only sell a portion at 5$ this could spiral out of control to who knows how high once the pilot plant is built and formic acid is flowing not to mention the fuel cell with licensing if we don't get bought out which could happen before the end of the year. Or larry could sell one and keep the other whatevever happens we know larry will do the right thing for us shareholders.

[Ecomike]

MVTG technology is all about reducing air pollution by not producing it or releasing it, so this news is all about the market value of regulation to reduce air pollution....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2012/02/27/clean-air-regulations-cost-us-21-billion-per-year-economist/

"Economist: Clean Air Regs Cost U.S. $21 Billion A Year But Produce $100 Billion In Benefits"

" Clean air regulations cost the United States about $21 billion per year in lost productivity, a University of Chicago economist said this afternoon.

But the benefits of environmental regulation—improved health, reduced infant mortality, increased property values—are typically estimated at more than $100 billion, said Chad Syverson, professor of economics at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business.

“It looks like—you’ve got $21 billion on this side, $100-something billion over here—the scale is actually suggesting that the marginal benefit of regulation is quite a bit bigger than the marginal cost, at least over the sample,” Syverson told about 40 people gathered in a campus lecture hall.

Most researchers have assumed that environmental regulation causes lost productivity, but in 1995 economist Michael Porter suggested that regulation may improve productivity by spurring industry to invest, investigate, and innovate.

Syverson and two colleagues set out to test the Porter Hypothesis by comparing regulatory data from the EPA with productivity data from the Annual Survey of Manufactures.

“Even if you’re sure regulations are going to reduce productivity, it’s important to know how much,” Syverson said.

They found a 2.6 percent drop in productivity among industrial plants in counties the EPA had declared “non-attainment” counties under the Clean Air Act between 1972 and 1993—the last year the manufacturing productivity data was available.

The researchers looked at regulations aimed at specific pollutants, including ozone, sulfur dioxide, total suspended particles, and carbon monoxide. They found one instance in which the Porter Hypothesis seemed to hold true:

Productivity increased 1.7 percent in response to carbon monoxide regulation, largely in response to greatly improved productivity at refineries. "

[Ecomike]

$5/share for MVTG shares may be realistic. That would only take the market cap to 1/4 of aone's battery company ipo, and all they had was an incremental improvement on a lithium ion battery, in a market with heavy competition world wide. They went bk in 3 years, and MVTG is still here.

[kas11]

I agree mike, you don't want to be chasing at a higher price been down that road before not much fun, I would rather sit back and watch investors scrambling for shares as we head north, they can have mine at 5$ a share.

[Ecomike]

MVTG also showed $148,000 gross margin last quarter as well, also a first.

[Ecomike]

No revenue?

What gave you that impression?

[Ecomike]

I was asked about the old MVTG deals with the Koreans today.

Shortly after the deal was signed with KOSPO (Korean Coal fired power plant) and their engineering partner (I forget the firm name, it is in the filings), Lafarge cut a deal with MVTG for a second MVTG-ERC Pilot Plant.

LaFarge, being in Canada, next door to MVTG (so to speak), and with the Koreans being overseas, and coming back wanting to change the original signed deal, KOSPO/Korea was moved to the back burner and over time just died, and LaFarge went to the front center stage.

Lafarge was going to be, and has been far easier to deal with, and a much lower cost option for the first pilot plant (logistics, lawyers, contracts, travel...), and also a far better potential customer market wise.

KOSPO was just a coal fired power plant utility in Korea, but Lafarge is world wide, uses coal for heat and the Lafarge CO2 source is from roasting limestone to make cement for making concrete, and the heat source is from burning coal. Thus the CO2 source at LaFarge is both from burning coal and roasting limestone!!! Two birds for one stone.

And LaFarge has cement manufacturing plants world wide, KOSPO does not. Also MVTG could not afford to fund both pilot plants.

[mlb4nd]

thanks for all the info...impressive!

[Ecomike]

If you dig back into ancient history, yes there is odd stuff like that. All of us here have discussed it before, ad nauseum. It has no merit, as this CEO's performance the last 3 years has been stellar, and the dilution has been almost non existent. Most of that old stuff is wild eyed conspiracy theory.

Material events of MVTG of significance.

MVTG Technology was initially invented and developed at the UBC University lab by one of the top 10 organic electrochemical engineers on the planet, Professor Colin Oloman, and funded by Canadian Government grants. Then it was bought by MVTG/founder and current CEO Larry Kristof. More recent MVTG improvements and patents were and are being developed in MVTG's new lab.

The MVTG CEO still owns 20 Million of the 57 million issued shares.

The MVTG OS is 57 MM. Only 37 MM issued since the 2007 IPO (new company, not a R/M. Never been a R/S.

The float is barely 22 MM.

And 2/3rds of the float is locked up by people like me now.

Been fully SEC OTC-QB reporting since day one.

Three of the patent applications have been issued, two in 2012, one in 2013, they are issued enforceable patents now, not just pending. More will be issued, and more are being applied for.

The very last MVTG 8-K lists the 5 year MVTG deal with Alstom

See this

http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=9621266

Lists the new 5 year MVTG deal with Alstom (customer, team commercial development collaborator)

this

Lists massive jump in MVTG revenue and gross profit from nill to $148,000 gross profit.

http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=9716925

and this shows the size and scope of MVTG's new customer/team commercialization collaborator:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alstom

http://www.hindustantimes.com/business-news/ge-alstom-turn-india-into-production-hub/article1-1183765.aspx

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterdetwiler/2014/02/11/deepwater-wind-takes-another-major-step-signs-contracts-for-alstom-6-megawatt-turbines/

http://www.youtube.com/user/Alstom

For nearly 100 years, Alstom has been a leading provider of vital equipment and services for the U.S. power generation and rail transportation markets. Drawing on the expertise of 93,000 professionals in more than 100 countries, and as many as 7,000 employees in the U.S., Alstom is driving the development of new technologies to meet rising demand for energy and alleviate urban congestion while minimizing impacts on the environment.

A few quick facts about Alstom in the U.S.:

Alstom equipment can be found in 1 of every 2 U.S. power plants
7,000 of the country’s subway and rail transit vehicles rolled off an Alstom production line
Alstom technology and equipment manages 40% of all power flowing across the country’s electrical Grids

Alstom has what is needed to take MVTG technology world wide overnight!!!

And Lafarge, who has a pilot plant deal with MVTG, is and will be one of the first and largest MVTG customers, starting with the MVTG-ERC pilot plant.

http://www.lafarge.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafarge_%28company%29

Lafarge.svg
Type Société Anonyme
Traded as Euronext: LG
Industry Building materials
Founded 1833
Headquarters Paris, France
Key people Bruno Lafont (Chairman and CEO)
Products Cement, Construction aggregates, asphalt production and paving, concrete and gypsum wallboard
Revenue €15.816 billion (2012)[1]
Operating income € 2.44 billion (2012)[1]
Profit € 432 million (2012)[1]
Total assets €39.46 billion (end 2012)[1]
Employees 65,000 (end 2012)[1]

[eiddle]

Mantra showed first time revenue last 10-Q.

[swiamca]

I don't care if Mantra has patents worldwide.

I care about revenue.

With no revenue the patents are equal to zero.

7000 shares @ $.13 seems like a rip off.

I'm not sure what they are waiting for

No timeline was given for public to know what are their goals this year....

[Ecomike]

Anyone that wants a lot more shares better get busy buying at the ask here. That is all I have to say about that, LOL

[mlb4nd]

guess I really don't have an opinion on it. I'm not invested in this stock. I just ran across it and was just checking it out. Reading posts, I saw Larry's name mentioned. So I googled his name and that article came up.

I hadn't seen it mentioned on the board so I posted the link. Who is spreading a conspiracy theory? I just posted a link...I didn't write the article.

Have a good day

[mlb4nd]

guess I really don't have an opinion on it. I'm not invested in this stock. I just ran across it and was just checking it out. Reading posts, I saw Larry's name mentioned. So I googled his name and that article came up.

I hadn't seen it mentioned on the board so I posted the link. Who is spreading a conspiracy theory? I just posted a link...I didn't write the article.

Have a good day

[Greener]

So do you have anything to say about that ? The Vancouver Connection is what it is. The only concern on this board would be if you have anything to add. The conspiracy theory is a wonderful way to spread libel without going to jail…… they already retracted those stories.

Here is the date on the article:

The Vancouver Connection
Posted on July 25, 2009 | 5 Comments

It is impossible to sum that information up in a way that means anything……it is so long and drawn out you can't isolate a single line of reasoning because there isn't one, thats just the facts.

Still, what is your opinion?

-Greener

[mlb4nd]

http://datatoinformation.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/the-vancouver-connection/

[kas11]

Pretty quite around here, larry has a history of putting us to sleep then BANG!!!! theres some nice ask slapping accumulation going on lately around 14 cents I guess we wait and see.