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Thanks for the link!....Ever read the Rama Series by Arther C. Clark(and L. Gentry)? The appearance of the segments and motil "flaps" in between segments, reminded me of the "centeped-biots" in the Rama craft.
this is a different kind of robot motion. thought you would like to see. you have to go to the bottom and click on watch the video link. looks very useful for terrain.
http://www2.parc.com/spl/projects/modrobots/chain/polypod/index.html
Gail, over at Gail's ihub friends, went off and hasn't updated yet.
Hopeing she's OK.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=66458776
We were touring the Cape and saw the Rocket on the launch pad what a feeling Trax I have pics I will post them ASAP kinda busy right now catching up with things here on the home front //Earth quake hit at about 2 pm I felt it here in Jersey ,, Epi center DC area 5.8 my dog went nuts barking and running in circles
"Grail" launch date fast approaching, Launch windows are Sept. 8th through Sept 19th.
Grail's two orbiters will study the Moons gravity in detail never possible before. Findings should provide a great deal of information, from crust to core.
http://www.space-travel.com/reports/GRAIL_Launch_Less_Than_One_Month_Away_999.html
"Lunarpedia" new resource for current evolving ideas/engineering for study.
http://www.lunarpedia.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
Another article of the "big splat" and pic's of artist's impressions of the sequence...
http://www.moondaily.com/reports/The_Lunar_Farside_And_The_Ancient_Big_Splat_999.html
there is some speculation that the great rift on mars is due to a collision with a moon or small planet. directly opposite the the rift are the huge volcanoes. so it may be that a liquid planetary core could be pushed off-center by such a collision, if that is what actually happened.
I hadn't seen that, but it really wouldn't surprise me.
In some ways the theory lends some explanation to the previosly dicovered "mass-cons", concentrations of mass or metals large enough affect sensors of sattilites passing over.
Several of these gravity anomalys have been found on the moon.
To tell the truth, I don't know what to think of the theory. I would like to read the actual paper(s) and what they are viewing as evidence. I don't think the media does or is capable of breaking something like this down and giving the info. It seems like they are saying that the far side is the actual landscape of the 2nd moon? I don't know how 2 bodies of that size could hit hard enough to become a single fairly uniform sphere without becoming molten and amorphous. Trying to get my head around that. Especially as it supposedly hit hard enough to push the molten center to the near side? enough force to push that through the upper layers, some of which would be solid I would expect but, without some sort of fracture pattern between the near and far sides? No back slop?
Fox news saying evidence of liquid water on face of mars????
You beat me to it by a whole day! Just saw the story this morning..Impact was likened to a pie-in-the-face....
...I can hear Curly whoop-whooping now.. ;>
HOUSTON -- NASA is once again taking human space exploration to the Arizona desert in tests to simulate conditions on other worlds. News media representatives are invited to two opportunities to learn more about the upcoming Desert Research and Technology Studies (Desert RATS) field tests.
On Thursday, Aug. 4, journalists can visit NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston from 2:30 to 4 p.m. CDT for the Desert RATS team's final dry run before next month's mission. On Sept. 12, reporters at Black Point Lava Flow in northern Arizona can talk with team members and see mission hardware from 9 to 11:30 a.m. MDT.
To attend either opportunity, reporters must contact Brandi Dean at brandi.k.dean@nasa.gov. The deadline for the Johnson event is 5 p.m. on Wednesday, Aug. 3. For the desert media day, reporters must RSVP by Sept. 2.
For the past 14 years, teams of engineers, scientists, astronauts and technicians from across NASA centers and throughout industry and academia have simulated missions to distant destinations to answer questions about future exploration. This year, for the first time, the desolate desert landscape will stand in for an asteroid. Visiting an asteroid presents NASA with challenges the agency is only beginning to tackle. Among them are how to travel between sites of interest on an asteroid's surface and how to conduct spacewalks in its microgravity.
Desert RATS will investigate these issues and others applicable to future exploration such as crew size and bases; making the best use of astronauts' time when faced with extensive time delays in communication from Earth; and efficiently controlling robotic technology during surveys and scouting expeditions.
Technologies being tested in the 2011 Desert RATS mission include:
-- The Deep Space Habitat, which combines NASA's Habitat Demonstration Unit with a student-built X-Hab inflatable loft. The habitat provides crew living and work space.
-- NASA's Space Exploration Vehicle. Although its wheels would not be needed on the surface of an asteroid, the vehicle cabin could be mounted on a flying platform to provide astronauts transportation between sites of interest.
-- Robonaut 2/Centaur 2. Mounted on a wheeled base called Centaur 2, NASA's Robonaut 2 robotic astronaut assistant becomes R2C2. It can remotely scout areas for potential crew visits or assist astronauts in spacewalks.
-- The Deep Space Network. The size and capability of communications and data network links will have far-reaching impact on day-to-day existence of explorers on distant surfaces. Testing various scenarios in the desert will help identify requirements for such systems.
-- The Extravehicular Activity Information System. Spacesuits will not be worn during the planned field test activities, but a suite of prototype electronic tools have been developed to help plan for efficient, autonomous work during future spacewalks. The tools are packaged as a small system for test and evaluation on conceptual lightweight backpacks. They will be connected to displays worn on the astronauts' wrists and incorporate high definition video cameras.
Participants in the 2011 Desert RATS mission include Johnson and NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va.; Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, Calif.; Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.; Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md.; Kennedy Space Center in Florida; Glenn Research Center in Cleveland ; Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala.; NASA Headquarters in Washington; the European Space Agency; the Canadian Space Agency; the U.S. Air Force; the U.S. Army; the U.S. Geological Survey; the Lunar and Planetary Institute; the Planetary Science Institute; University of Texas, El Paso; Hamilton College of Clinton, N.Y.; Brown University; Arizona State University School of Earth and Space Exploration; the University of Massachusetts at Amherst; Colorado State University; the University of Wisconsin, Madison; Berkeley Heights, N.J., Public Schools; and Penn Manor School District of Millersville, Pa.
For a list of participants and more information about the Desert RATS tests, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/desertrats
News of "Other Moons", Saturn's moon Enceladus is contributing water to Saturns atmophere.
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Herschel_confirms_Enceladus_as_primary_water_supply_for_Saturn_atmosphere_999.html
Not much in the news for lunar mining, need someone to start launching soon.
USA seems to have hung "up it's hat" for any meaningful space-related research. Space X is breaking ground for the Vandenburg launch facility, may be quite some time before that gets completed.
In other news, James Webb telescope may be cancelled, has fallen behind in schedules, cost-overruns have been significant...but the darn thing is almost done...mostly paid for!
To quit now makes little sense, fix it 'n fly it!
Thanx for the Heads up Backtrax ; I have been very busy working lately as always Thanx again BIZZZZZ
Astrobiotics lunar lander project has completed the structural assembly for the lander that will deliver "red rover" robotic platform to the surface of the moon, in Co-operation with Carnegie-Mellon university's Planetary Robotics Lab.
The assembly will now go to Boeing's facilitys in El Segundo, Calif. to undergo "shake" testing to check the "robustness" of the structure.
http://www.moondaily.com/reports/CMU_and_Astrobotic_Technology_Complete_Structural_Assembly_of_Lunar_Lander_999.html
ESA luner-lander probe to focus on areas of the moon thought to contain water-ice and other volitles. These experiments to be precursor to possible manned-flight and landing.
http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Looking_at_the_volatile_side_of_the_Moon_999.html
I am still here not much to post about, But I am watching and waiting for some new stuff LOL
Even more water found on the moon! Lunar water found trapped in inclusions in a form of glass found on the surface of the moon. These samples were returned in 1972 and are of the "High-titanium content green-glass" samples.
The moisture-inclusions in the samples were present prior to the volcanic-activity that pushed the materials to the surface...billions of years before Apollo Astronauts collected the samples.
http://www.space-travel.com/reports/NASA_Funded_Scientists_Make_Watershed_Lunar_Discovery_999.html
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/grail/home.cfm Gravity detection probes Vacuum packed and set for launch to the MOON
http://www.moontoday.net/news/viewpr.html?pid=33562 Moons wrinkles tell the tale of past turmoil within its formation
That sounds very good I am sure We could do it Keep posting your ideas Very interesting Kismetkid
how's this for a launch?
maglev train track with rocket on board and payload on rocket. the maglev accelerates the total load to 2100 mph and the rocket kicks in at the end of the track. the load would be at 10% of escape velocity before the rocket boosted it. if you start on the rockies and head east or south of east, the whole thing would be over the ocean in case an abort was necessary. the rocket could separate and splash down in the ocean to be recovered later.
Since 1986 when University of Wisconsin first identified the existence of He3 in lunar soils, a multitude of different media-sources have reported on developments.
Gallery of samples of media-coverage in PDF form,
http://fti.neep.wisc.edu/gallery
Former Astronaut and onetime senator Harisson Schmitt, trys to get support for Lunar-mining...the goal, obtaining He3. Mr. Schmitt has training as a geologist, pilot (helicopter and jets.) and was head of NASA's Lunar-science training for astronauts in 1965, nd has personally logged 75 hours on the moon during the mission to the Taurus-littrow valley.
full story,
http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Astronaut+billion+plan+mine+moon/4718531/story.html
Seems to be common on mars. I have links below...the first should take you to more pics of "tracked" crators.
http://thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Mars_Images_18.html
The second link is the main-menu page for "thelivingmoon" site, many NASA images there...plus links to the hi-rez photos that can be downloaded directly from the NASA catalogs.
IMO, the site is a little "Fringey"...but it sure is a treasure-trove of images related to space exploration.
http://thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Moon_Images_Menu.html
There seems to be evidence of past tracks of dust devils on the rimm of the crater in that photo do You think that is a local phenom or is that a common thing elsewhere weather phenom??
Could become a great debate in the near future
An article about intrest in lunar mining now water is known to exist there. (at least in polar crators) And the need to spell out the rights of those that wish to recover moon resources.
At Dailytech,
http://www.dailytech.com/Lunar+Mining+Sparks+Race+to+the+Moon/article20682.htm
Here's my take on that, Some resources that could be mined..like He3, aluminum, and some other components of regolith are fairly uniformly distributed over the surface. Disputes over these will not likly occur, 'specially in the plains.
Polar craters that contain water and other volitals would be an area of dispute....But few will have what it takes to get there, possibly fewer will actually be successful.
Even fewer though, would be those opposed to the mining-claim endeavors that actually have resources to go on site and interfere. Two sayings come to mind, "Possesion being 9/10th of the law" and that its "Easyer to ask for forgiveness, than Permission."
I firmly believe mining will be done on the moon, and I may live to see it...Regulation may come later, but the pioneers will likly go where they wish, use what they find. Opposition will just be background noise. On another point, many nations are now investing in space-related science. And pooling resources.
Well, a company probably won't want to set up an facility without guarantees of some sort of ownership. With the recent push of corporate spaceflight projects and the international organizations of larger companies, I find it interesting that areas might be claimed in the name of a company as opposed to a nation.
http://www.spacex.com/falcon_heavy.php Falcon Heavy specs. /Lunar landing in the works as per Elon Musk in His press release SpaceX
First come, first served...anyone that finds the means to get there can mine. I hope as far as actual "ownership" I for one hope it never happens.
I know, I love it. hope it goes to MAAAARS! once this play takes off it will take care of my kid for the rest of his life.
will do. i think you have to be really committed to follow this type of pick. can you say loooooong term. hope my humor does not offend anbybody.
"To Infinity and Beyond"!! - Buzz Lightyear. wise man.
thank you, thank you. so when do you think actual lunar mining will occur? Can i buy some property there? haha.
Some of us are trying. But right now it seems to be for people who are willing to dedicate their time and money to the cause. To Da Moon, Mars and Beyond !
Welcome all. A place to discuss and share resources about utilizing construction materials found "in situ" on the moon. Any and all dicussions related to utilizing resources that abound in the solar-system are welcome, the main premise here should be, that we boost to space what few tools we need to develop those "In Situ" resources and "Bootsrap"the rest .
ZOOMABLE Images of the Whole nearside of the moon-mosaic.
http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc_browse/view/wac_nearside
And the rest of the galleries for LROC,
http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc
Links to late-breaking news, about lunarmining, moon-exploration and space research..at MoonDaily, moontoday and others to come, as I find them.
Some of the sources available might be those that have been launched already (Spacejunk sattilites and such) and are simply a hazard to other orbital endeavors. One way to make use of the "Spacejunk", could involve sending batches of tiny drones in a single launch that could find and attach to the larger items in orbit. These drones would utilise a low impulse ion drive to overtake the junk, attach by grapple or other means. Once attached, could fire a high-impulse rocket, (Solid-fuel, or liquid-fuel with a solid oxidizer.)
Don't be afraid to throw new stuff up here!...ANYthing that gets us out there and mining is accepted here. New drives and propellants. Self-replicating machines. New reactors for energy to drive mining/manufactoring equipment. Fusion advances. Autonomous manufactoring/mining equiptment.....Use your imagination!
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/space/moon-mars/4264325
Farside picture from NASA,
...More moon photos, various timelines.
Link to pictures of luna rock/soils thin-sectioned under microscope,
http://minerva.union.edu/hollochk/c_petrology/moon_rocks/index.htm
Information of space news and research can be found at Colony Worlds website, ...Courtesy of Admiral Lagrange.
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